Massage Parlor Reports

IMHO means "In My Humble Opinion"

[QUOTE=Wetseeker]Did I say I was ripped off?!!! No I did not! Go back and read my posts thoroughly. You do not consider bait and switch a scam? Remind me then not to buy or do anything with your place of business.
First, I have been mongering for a long time. Second, I know that there are a lot of misleading pictures on CL.[/QUOTE]
No, you didn't say you were ripped off, and I didn't accuse you of saying you were ripped off. I did read your post thoroughly, thus my post which was my opinion. Maybe you should reread your own original post again!
I have to agree with you that "bait and switch" is considered one type of scam. Since you already know (as all members of this forum) that there are alot of fake pics on CL (especially of the Asian massage ads), you were a victim of a "bait and switch" just by answering the ad. You surely didn't thing the girl in the pic was the girl you were going to meet! If the girl was OK (but not the same girl in the pic), you wouldn't be crying scam and making your post.

[QUOTE=Wetseeker]In my report I told you what happened. I went to a motel. I was in the room, there were no other young things in that room. It was just me and that 60+ year old woman. She was not the mama-san and the bathroom door was open, so no sweet young thing was going to walk through the door. This old woman answered the door wearing a white robe and you could see a faded orange house dress on underneath.

If I wanted an over the hill past her prime masseuse, I would have gone to Mandala. At least there I know I would have gotten a great massage with no drama of driving through Lowell listening to driving directions on my cell phone while trying to negotiate traffic on a rainy night.[/Quote]
Maybe you should reread your own original post again! Where does it say you were in the room and also checked out the bathroom. Here's what you wrote:
[Quote=Excerpt from Wetseeker's Original Post]What happened next still sends shivers down my spine. The old Asian woman that answered the door had to be at least 60, I would almost bet what is left of my retirement on it. I just turned around and said no thanks and got the hell out of there.[/Quote]
I'm not Carnac the Magnificent and thus able to read your mind. What you wrote is what you wrote. You saw the 60 yr old woman [b]at the door[/b], said No Thanks, and turned around and screwed out of there. Nothing in your post about being in the room, checking out the bathroom, or noone else there.

[QUOTE=Wetseeker]Congratulations on your experience with a woman in her 50's. I might have stayed if this woman was in her 50's. I was being generous by saying she was in her 60's. Her late 60's would be more like it.[/Quote]
In regards to my experience, Your Welcome! In regard to your experience, if she was in her late 60's she was the mamasan. IMHO - You didn't follow through!

[QUOTE=Wetseeker]You can't delude your self that human trafficking does not go on. What I went through could fit that profile. I won't say if it did or not but think about it. I won't go into a lecture here, but why don't you google human trafficking and how it is connected to some Asian Prostitutes as well as some other eastern European countries.[/Quote]
I googled Human Trafficking and after much research agree that it does go on, but IMHO not in your case. IMHO your being too dramatic and really making a stretch.

[QUOTE=Wetseeker]The reason for this forum is to exchange information. We all try to get what is best for our mongering buck. No, I did not loose any money, just some time. To some of us time is a valuable commodity as well.[/Quote]
We both exchanged information. I felt you made some incorrect assumptions about the situation and I expressed my opinion. You did not lose any money(well maybe gas money), but gained some experience at the cost of your time and aggravation. Frankly, to save time and aggravation, there are plenty of asian places in the Boston area rather than driving to Lowell.

[QUOTE=Wetseeker]My point on my original post was this. If you take the time and answer that add, you may not get what is advertised, meaning a younger oriental girl if not the one in the picture.[/Quote]
No kidding! If you though you were getting the girl in the pic..... (read previous comment above on Bait and Switch)

[QUOTE=Wetseeker]So don't shoot the messenger. I have never posted false information and have provided good information via pm to some senior members. If you don't like it, I could not care less. Go ahead and take your chances on bait and switch and ignore the advice of some senior members. Go ahead and defend a guy who has one post to his name that attacked this post. For all we know he could actually be the mamasan.[/QUOTE]
Never accused you of posting false info. IMHO, [b]based on what you posted in your original post[/b] you didn't follow through. As you stated "You saw the old woman at the door, said No Thanks and got the hell out of there.
In regards to Jeff, I did not defend him, I agreed with him! To defend someone they would have to be attacked first. Also, if you checked Jeff may have 1 post, but he has been a member since 10/10/07 which happens to be longer than you 03-29-08. You should be happy that you got him to make his first post.

In Closing:
To be a Successful Monger you have to have a 'Sharp Mind' and a 'Set of Balls' and know 'How and When' to use them!

May all your encounters be Scamfree! Peace.

Let it go.

Wise, eating 50 year old (plus) pussy certainly shows you have the "'Set of Balls', not sure about the 'Sharp Mind'.

Wet, human trafficing does seem to be a leap, but you did say 'I think'.

IMHO -
Personally, I don't like CL situations in general as I feel there is less control if it is a ripoff and no plausible deniability if it is a sting. I would not do one unless some other brave sole(s) here checked it out. There seems to be enough store front availabilty to satisfy the basic needs, though I do understand the craving for new situations.

I was torn between using what I did for a subject title or "I'm done with Asians". Now after reading the last posting about the human trafficing theory, I'm thinking "Here's something to change the subject".

I tried W Med last night. I couldn't recommend, wouldn't recommed, won't go back.

My favorite was out of town yesterday, so I was hemming and hawing if I wanted to see someone else. A little after 8 pm last night I decided to call 6688. I asked who I was talkiing to and she said Linda. Heard good things about her so I made appointment. I said I can be there at 8:30.

I get there on time and called again. As she asked. To get access into the building. I called and it goes to voicemail. I called again and she answered. "I'm here for my appointment" I said. "When" was her reply. "Now, you told me to call when I got here" I replied to her reply. I hate standing outside buildings where anyone driving by can see you. Fortunately, it was a rainy night but also unfortunately it was a RAINY NIGHT!

Down the stairs comes the ugly sister of Suzanne Whong from House Hunters International. She really wasn't that ugly. She wasn't a beauty but I had been warned she wasn't a looker.

Up the stairs we go into the apartment and into the room. I'm starting to get undressed and who do I see standing in the living room? One of Linda's clients paying her. Sorry dude if I cut your time short. PM me and I'll tell you what color shirt you had one.

I'm getting undressed, jacket, shirt, shoes off and Linda comes back into my room and tells me to go into the other room because the other room is warmer. Okay, it was warmer, but Christ, I wonder if I'm in Amsterdam with that red light? I finished getting undressed and she asks me if I want 2 girls. "How much? " A franklin? Score. Yes! That's. 5 per girl. How could I say no? How bad can it be? I'll let you know.

I'm face down, Linda starts on my back. I hear the other person come into the room and she starts working on my legs. This 4 hand stuff feels okay I'm thinking to myself.

I asked for a medium massage. It was more of a surface rub. The pressure really wasn't there.

I turn around to see what the other girl looks like and she's uglier than the woman who works the register at your favorite Chinese takeout. She's got to be in her late 40's or 50's. Short and fat. Well, you do get what you pay for.

Another pet peeve of mine is when they answer the phone and Linda did twice. I think she could tell I was getting pissed and she didn't answer it again. So, the monger who was lost driving down Rt. 60, it's my fault she wouldn't stay on the phone with you. Take it from me, you didn't miss much.

Did I leave happy? Happy is a relative term. I got what they give. Was it worth it? No. I should have stayed home. I would have done a better job myself and I 'd still have 1. 6 in my pocket.

If you're thinking of going, think again. I'm not normally a person who would let unsanitary conditions bother me. But, they don't change the towels on the table between visits. They adjust them while I was there to make sure they were straight on the table but didn't even bother to flip the towel over to what could have been the clean side. I don't think they change the towel on the face cradle either but they do use a disposable cover over that towel. I've been to other places where they physically remove them from the table while they're waiting to get paid.

Figuring out the amount of time between when I got to the building, waited outside, got undressed, changed rooms, got dressed and was back on the street, I figure I was on the table 40 minutes. Give me at leat 50 minutes and I'm okay.

So, here are my pet peeves: When I make an appointment, don't make me wait, unless you're going to extend my time as well. But never make me wait outside in a visible place with no cover. Don't answer the phone. It's my time and I paid for it. Learn how to give a massage. Buy a book or get a video. They're out there. Change the fucking sheets. I don't want some disease because you're too fucking lazy or cheap. If I pay for an hour, give me an hour.

I'm done with asians. Well, except for one or two who give me what I expect.

I am going to let this go after a couple of points.

No, I didn't not expect to get the girl in the picture. I stated that I know that with CL the pictures for the most part are not what you get. What I was expecting was someone on the younger side of 40 in reasonably good shape.

Two, Maybe I left some things out but I did say motel parking lot. I would assume most people would have assumed I went to a motel.

That's all, if any hard feelings were made sorry. I joined this forum to share information, not be ridiculed and jumped on. But, I am pretty thick skinned so I am going to let the rest of it go. I just wanted to defend myself and state may case.

wet

[QUOTE=Wetseeker]That's all, if any hard feelings were made sorry. I joined this forum to share information, not be ridiculed and jumped on. But, I am pretty thick skinned so I am going to let the rest of it go. I just wanted to defend myself and state may case.[/QUOTE]
No hard feelings taken on my part and I'm glad none taken on your part. Everyone has their opinion, point of view, and monger experiences. I've always considered the sharing of information on this Forum to consist of all three.

Thank You for Your Info,
Peace.

[QUOTE=Dan Wesson]Wise, eating 50 year old (plus) pussy certainly shows you have the "'Set of Balls', not sure about the 'Sharp Mind'............ though I do understand the craving for new situations.[/Quote]
Took both to succeed at this quest. Decent looking for her age. Why, do it? It was the challenge and 'as you stated yourself' a craving for new situations. It produced the added benefit of her making sure the girls took care of me. Normally, I stick with the 20 and 30 yr olds.

I was torn between using what I did for a subject title or "I'm done with Asians". Now after reading the last posting about the human trafficing theory, I'm thinking "Here's something to change the subject".

I tried W Med last night. I couldn't recommend, wouldn't recommed, won't go back.

My favorite was out of town yesterday, so I was hemming and hawing if I wanted to see someone else. A little after 8 pm last night I decided to call 6688. I asked who I was talkiing to and she said Linda. Heard good things about her so I made appointment. I said I can be there at 8:30.

I get there on time and called again. As she asked. To get access into the building. I called and it goes to voicemail. I called again and she answered. "I'm here for my appointment" I said. "When" was her reply. "Now, you told me to call when I got here" I replied to her reply. I hate standing outside buildings where anyone driving by can see you. Fortunately, it was a rainy night but also unfortunately it was a RAINY NIGHT!

Down the stairs comes the ugly sister of Suzanne Whong from House Hunters International. She really wasn't that ugly. She wasn't a beauty but I had been warned she wasn't a looker.

Up the stairs we go into the apartment and into the room. I'm starting to get undressed and who do I see standing in the living room? One of Linda's clients paying her. Sorry dude if I cut your time short. PM me and I'll tell you what color shirt you had one.

I'm getting undressed, jacket, shirt, shoes off and Linda comes back into my room and tells me to go into the other room because the other room is warmer. Okay, it was warmer, but Christ, I wonder if I'm in Amsterdam with that red light? I finished getting undressed and she asks me if I want 2 girls. "How much? " A franklin? Score. Yes! That's. 5 per girl. How could I say no? How bad can it be? I'll let you know.

I'm face down, Linda starts on my back. I hear the other person come into the room and she starts working on my legs. This 4 hand stuff feels okay I'm thinking to myself.

I asked for a medium massage. It was more of a surface rub. The pressure really wasn't there.

I turn around to see what the other girl looks like and she's uglier than the woman who works the register at your favorite Chinese takeout. She's got to be in her late 40's or 50's. Short and fat. Well, you do get what you pay for.

Another pet peeve of mine is when they answer the phone and Linda did twice. I think she could tell I was getting pissed and she didn't answer it again. So, the monger who was lost driving down Rt. 60, it's my fault she wouldn't stay on the phone with you. Take it from me, you didn't miss much.

Did I leave happy? Happy is a relative term. I got what they give. Was it worth it? No. I should have stayed home. I would have done a better job myself and I 'd still have 1. 6 in my pocket.

If you're thinking of going, think again. I'm not normally a person who would let unsanitary conditions bother me. But, they don't change the towels on the table between visits. They adjust them while I was there to make sure they were straight on the table but didn't even bother to flip the towel over to what could have been the clean side. I don't think they change the towel on the face cradle either but they do use a disposable cover over that towel. I've been to other places where they physically remove them from the table while they're waiting to get paid.

Figuring out the amount of time between when I got to the building, waited outside, got undressed, changed rooms, got dressed and was back on the street, I figure I was on the table 40 minutes. Give me at leat 50 minutes and I'm okay.

So, here are my pet peeves: When I make an appointment, don't make me wait, unless you're going to extend my time as well. But never make me wait outside in a visible place with no cover. Don't answer the phone. It's my time and I paid for it. Learn how to give a massage. Buy a book or get a video. They're out there. Change the fucking sheets. I don't want some disease because you're too fucking lazy or cheap. If I pay for an hour, give me an hour.

I'm done with asians. Well, except for one or two who give me what I expect.

I scheduled with Jessica for today and when I got there neither she or Amy were there. I'm hoping that they didn't rotate out the crew as Lulu, who I had, just gave a mediocre at best massage. The one thing this place had going for it was they gave, "real" great massages that were worth the price. Bring back Jessica and Amy.

Very disappointed.

I know everyone is tired of this but I have to agree it's a scam. Here's the real world analogy. You answer the ad to rent an apartment and the picture is a beautiful view of the Charles River so you drive there to take a look and when you see the apartment it overlooks the garbage dumpster and abandoned cars. Did I lose anything. Well yes I did. I answered the ad in good faith. Spent my time and money driving to the site on a beautiful Sunday afternoon and the opportunity cost was I missed out on a beautiful apartment on the other side of the river in Cambridge where the ad was legitimate. I have to say that this is a scam. Did they slug me over the head and take my wallet when I looked at the apartment. No. That would be robbery. But it's a scam by any logical definition. Just my 3 cents.

Has anyone been here recently? I use to frequent this establishment a year or 2 ago and I'm going back soon. An acquaintence of mine said to me that extras can still be had there. In fact, she told me her friend worked there about a month ago but quit on her 1st day as soon as she realized that HE's were prevalent. She also said she was hired over the phone versus a face-to-face interview. If this is true, more than a massage must be possible. Would be interested if any man (or woman) can add to this and if so, any recommendation on a girl?

Thanks in advance!

Joe Fish

I made an appointment and when I got there Alice said her new person would see me, I thought I would give it a try and see. She promised me next time I can get both of them.

NO THANK YOU! I have been a customer of Alice for years, and this new chicke was awful. Massage was terrible, the roaming was pathetic and haggling for a HJ was too much. Finally we neg. A price that was too high but I needed it. She wouldn't let me roam at all, it was a bad experience. When I left she told me not to tell Alice that she charged me that price for the HJ.

When I left Alice was sitting out front, I wanted to say something to her, but I just said I'll see YOU next time. I was so pissed, I'll return but only to Alice.

Anyone know any good ones in that area beside Alice?

Thanks

[QUOTE=Trains]Do you mean Hancock St in Quincy? If so, she also told me about a "younger girl" that works during the days, and wouldn't shut up throughout the whole massage. Got a HE but probably won't go back.[/QUOTE]Must be on the Quincy-Braintree townline as they advertise in Braintree and are about a mile from the Braintree town hall. Your description sounds like it must be the same woman though as she wouldn't stfu either.

Has anyone else been cutting back on tips? Seems like a tough economy should bring out some bargains. I have contemplated this on my next outing.

I notice that the $300 barrier for good agency girls is being pushed to $350. Amazing in this economy but still plenty of TER reviews indicating that guys are paying it.[QUOTE=Dan Wesson]Has anyone else been cutting back on tips? Seems like a tough economy should bring out some bargains. I have contemplated this on my next outing.[/QUOTE]

Fello Gents

Basic rule of thumb for me. When it comes to a BBBJ I tip. 5 and for FS its a. 7 tip on top of the house fee. Obviously the women are going to try and get more. Stay firm on your tips and if they refuse to accept it than threaten to leave. They will take the tips. I was in a parlor the other day and the woman told me that the girls were talking about sticking together in terms of what the girls should accept as tips eg. More money from us mongers. Fellas we must stay together and keep the prices low.

[QUOTE=Dan Wesson]Has anyone else been cutting back on tips? Seems like a tough economy should bring out some bargains. I have contemplated this on my next outing.[/QUOTE]

Are you sure about that? I know for a fact, because I've been offered more than one TER "bribe" by an agency (to withdraw a bad review, or to post an exceptionally good one), that many (if not all) of the agencies are hurting right now. I have negotiated down $25 to $50 on a couple of occasions over the last few months (and walked away from a couple of $300 ladies who were unwilling to), and I suspect that the higher prices are, in some cases, a desperation move to recover in fees what's being lost in volume. There's a sucker born every minute, they say, and that sucker will be the last dude paying the exorbitant rates in the midst of a major economic meltdown.

Adobe

[QUOTE=Teejay]I notice that the $300 barrier for good agency girls is being pushed to $350. Amazing in this economy but still plenty of TER reviews indicating that guys are paying it.[/QUOTE]