The Rat Trap

But ya got to figure he is the kid in the chess club we locked in the dumpster.

C3.

[QUOTE=Chris5;2431926]For once I completely agree with C3!! Yes C3! His response to the so called respected monger ancient one was right on the money sir.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Potsy;2431806]I wrote a detailed and long response to your post but somehow it did not post, so I will try a quick reply.

For starters, you are an asshole, moron and a fool. I posted about what happened to me involving Ashley23, she admits it did happen yet you leave her in your home and go to work? What an idiot. You say she didn't screw you? How do you know? She could have wrote down enough of your info that two months from now you are a victim of Identity theft.

Want to know even worse? When I am in that area of town, I stay with a friend in that area. The night I had a problem with Ashley23 and her crew I was staying with him. I keep getting texts now from her telling me she knows my friends address and how she can just tell Leon and Black (Management) and how I can get visitors at anytime. After what happened to me do you really think a burglary or home invasion is not in the realm of possibility?

Ok you say there are usually two sides to every story and the truth is in the middle. Ok I posted what happened, you post that it did happen and Ashley23 said so, yet you say you.

You say you sent someone a post filled with lies trying to dig info out. Wow what a dick. I post what happened to me, Ashley23 tells you it did happen but that's not good enough for you, you still need to find some middle area where you want the truth to be, so you can defend her? Asshole.

Further evidence to stay away from Ashley23, I have known her for a while. The night this happened to me, she kept texting me begging me for help that management threw her out threatened her and she has no money and can't get anywhere. Like an idiot I made her walk 2 miles away from the hotel, picked her up and drove her to her friends house and made sure she got to her Grandmothers house that night, safely. She spent the next few days with Grandma, her father and her daughter. She kept texting me and thanking me for helping her. I AM THE ASSHOLE that told her if she stayed clean and away from them I would help her to get an apartment in her name, some furniture and clothes, and told her if not for herself do it for her daughter. She thanked me so much for saving her and that she was done and would never go back to them especially after what they tried to do to me. I even told her of a job that would pay pretty good that would be perfect for her.

She spent Sunday with her daughter and I was going to pick her up that night and take her to Wal MArt to replace the little amount of clothes she left at the hotel, she called me from the park as she played with her daughter and said she was taking her home, giving her a bath and putting her to bed and thanked me for taking her to get some clothes at 11. Well I drove there and no response from her by text or phone, why? She was back in Fern Park already in the same hotel and same room doing drugs with the same management and posting on BP at 4 AM. So even if you want to believe her bullshit that she didn't know what was going to happen, she went back to the same crew now knowing what they will do to mongers and she is ok with it.

I have tried to help Ashley23. I continuously still get tons of messages from her. She keeps insisting she knows my friends address and that she can tell management and they can stop by anytime. This forced me to tell my friend, who notified Seminole county Sheriff and gave them all of there info including there real names and pictures (when things went down with me at the hotel I turned my cell phone video camera on and he took snapshot pictures of them from the video), I already knew Ashley23's real name and she gave me the other peoples names in the days after it happened) So now this girl you are defending is basically giving veiled threats to me and my friend, what a misunderstood sweetheart.

Her others texts are her begging me to meet her swearing again that she wants to get out, only to go and try and meet her twice to drive her to Grandmas only not to find her where she said she was but also her phone going silent both times.

Then she also came clean that she indeed went back not once but twice to her management for drugs. And she has moved on from pain pills to full zanny pies and other junk and how management said she can stay if she started doing heroin and they would give her an endless supply. I told her if she every tried heroin they would own her and she would never be able to stop doing it and they would own her and she would be dead in a year. She agreed and again said she wanted to get away and again I went to pick her up at a location and take her to Grandmas only for her not to be there. I am done trying to help her.

You say that some of these girls stay in places that they prefer not to stay, Ashley23 was out. She doesn't need to stay there. I got her back to her Grandmother and her daughter and to safety. Her grandmother and father welcomed her with open arms. I offered to help her get a place of her own if she stayed clean. SHE CHOSE to go back to the hotel and do drugs and be with that management. She prefers to live that life. In between swearing to me that she wants out of the life she told me straight out that she enjoys shooting up and doing drugs and that's the life she wants. No one can help her but herself, I have tried and I am done.

What did I get out of this other then putting my safety in jeopardy? She has threatened to tell management my friends home address (I seriously doubt she knows it) and a visit from her friends, can anyone say burglary or home invasion?, so now he is nervous as it now effects his safety and career and has told me I am not welcome at his home for a while. I drove 3 times to meet her to take her to safety at her grandmothers only to have her disappear on me. And now I have to read comments from an asshole who admits what happened to me did occur, that Ashley acknowledges as much but the ASSSHOLE still insists there is somehow a middle ground that is really the truth to the story even though the two people that were there both agree it happened. ASSHOLE.

Ashley is hurting and it is all of her own doing. She was out but chose to go back to the drugs and the management. She threatened me that if I didn't help her she would start doing heroin to make management happy, I tried to help her that last time and she screwed me again.

I care deeply for this girl, but she has staright out chosen that she wants to be there and have that life. Her Grandmother, Father and myself tried to help her. She chose what she wants. And you Sir are a giant asshole, moron and an idiot.[/QUOTE]I am not a fan of Potsy at all and I know he feels the exact same way about me, however and it pains me to say this, LOL! But Potsy is a thousand percent correct in everything he has said in regards to Ashley23! I have personal knowledge of what went down at that hotel that night straight from the fucking source! Potsy is not exaggerating, the shit went down exactly as he described it. I normally don't agree with anyone about anything on this board as I am really a black sheep on here which is EXACTLY the way I want it! LOL! But no one has to believe anything but I can say without hesitation there is no fucking middle ground!! This shit went down and she was full aware it was going down! And this is who you leave alone in your home? Seriously Ron?

End of story.

[QUOTE=Camera3;2431615]Dude, I hate to say it but I doubt there are any people on here that would agree with your assumption that you are either established or respected. Just sayin'.

Um, wow, dude, you really don't have a clue. Do you?

Are you the kid Chris5 and I swirlied weekly back in high school? Maybe that explains it all.

C3.[/QUOTE]Dude, you must have bumped your head. Perhaps senility has set in on your old ass? Atzheimers? Now that you and Chris 5 agree on something perhaps you two can troll OBT together.

[QUOTE=AncientOne;2430596]Except that if an established and respected Monger like myself...[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Camera3;2431615]Dude, I doubt there are any people on here that would agree with your assumption that you are either established or respected. Just sayin'.

Um, wow, dude, you really don't have a clue. Do you?[/QUOTE]AncientDick I also doubt there are any people on here that would agree with your assumption that you are either established or respected on this forum. Your always ragging on anyone and everyone all the time about something. However you think of yourself as Mr Wonderful.

As C3 would say "Just sayin"

Amen on that one brothers & sisters?

That's it? That's all you got? Damn, bro! If you are going to get into a battle of whits you need to come better armed.

As has been pointed out, you have 240 posts and, best I can tell, one review. And that was one of a well known legend who has not verified that she knows you. Maybe you are the most prolific hobbyist on here. Maybe you pay to play daily and know every lady of the evening in town. Maybe you are legend. It is just that there is no evidence of that at all on this forum. Face it, if you were arrested for solicitation the prosecutor could not use anything you have written on this forum in your trial. So, in a way, you are very safe.

Here is my point, and it the point of many here, we thrive on good intel, accurate reviews and the wisdom of fellow guys and gals in the hobby. You have a history of offering little or none of that. You pick at people with nonsense and make stupid comments that really piss off a few of the guys to the point where they genuinely dispise you. Please know, I am not one of those. I really find you harmless and useless.

So, I suggest you do one of two things. Either, number one, start giving legitimate reviews and earn your creds. Share from your vast bank of knowledge. Share stories of your adventures, near misses, great successes. In short, become useful. Or, number two, go back to your mother's basement, turn on your super computer with the four monitors and get back to playing Sniper Team or Road of Fury or Crusaders Escape or whatever the fuck you self-emasculated panty wastes play these days.

C3.

[QUOTE=AncientOne;2432425]Dude, you must have bumped your head. Perhaps senility has set in on your old ass? Atzheimers? Now that you and Chris 5 agree on something perhaps you two can troll OBT together.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=AncientOne;2432425]Dude, you must have bumped your head. Perhaps senility has set in on your old ass? Atzheimers? Now that you and Chris 5 agree on something perhaps you two can troll OBT together.[/QUOTE]As my new lovely girlfriend Mystical aka Ashley says, "play nice".

Ancioneone the problem you seem to be having is that you don't think you're an asshole and you hold yourself in very high regards, I will make this simple for you not to confuse you dude.

I will tell you the difference between yourself and someone like say C3. Now even though me and C3 have had very heated debates and we besides you never agree on ANYTHING! Every now on then C3 post some pretty good fucking reports!! Has excellent intel and breaks things down in a simple way. Sometimes maybe even C3 doesn't know he is writing a good report but he indeed DOES it a LOT! I am man enough to admit that about C3, he also travels and mongers throughout the country and post reports all over on his adventures not just Orlando. C3 has said himself that he is an equal opportunity dick and his post to you asshole proves that! Now lets talk about YOU! Ancientone says he is highly respected and experienced monger? Really? Says who? You're problem is unlike myself who openly admits that I can be an asshole, a dick, an idiot and at times completely useless on here! I am man enough to admit that about myself and I really don't care what people think of me but YOU are the complete opposite! You think you're great with golden intel but yet you only have a review of michele1. Did you really see her as she never mentions your fucking name! The other posts are garbage dude! How would I look posting on here that I Chris5 am a highly respected and experienced monger? I would be laughed off this board dude! Even I am not that stupid to make a dumb statement like that! So here is my advice to you.

1) Admit you're an asshole and a dick and a complete idiot!

2) start posting YOUR own adventures!!

3) learn that sometimes its best to STFU!!

I have learned all 3 of those things and I am content with it! I have been called every name in the book but never have I called myself a "respected and distinguished monger" LOL!

In the end ancient one no one gives a shit about you or me! Atleast admit you're not perfect dude!

Hope you two losers had fun ganging up on me here in the Rat Trap with the last few posts. Your lives must really be lacking any substance. My record of fine reviews and intel are undisputed (except for you 2 clowns) here in USA. To those mongers who know and respect me, always Play Safe! Lets get back to the basics of what this site is all about.

[QUOTE=AncientOne;2433328]Hope you two losers had fun ganging up on me here in the Rat Trap with the last few posts. Your lives must really be lacking any substance. My record of fine reviews and intel are undisputed (except for you 2 clowns) here in USA. To those mongers who know and respect me, always Play Safe! Lets get back to the basics of what this site is all about.[/QUOTE]Your record of fine reviews and intel are undisputed? Are you trying to kid yourself or others? I mean really. Any person on here can simply look through your posts to see the real you. You have reviews on Michele and Persian Kitty, that's it. The rest of your posts are comment posts or bashing on other mongers or your creepy fixation on bashing Dallas. There is no intel at all involved in what you post. Oh, you do have one important post that I read. It was the one where you were praising Jaguar for his valuable info that he gave us. How'd that work out?

What you're doing wouldn't be the end of the world or anything but I just couldn't let this one go without a rebuttal. I mean this post by you is so ridiculous, even by your standards it's ludicrous what you're trying to put over on the real mongers on here.

My advice to the REAL mongers on here is to put you on their ignore list. That way, they don't have to read your drivel and they don't have to ever worry about ignoring a PM they receive from you.

I've been trying really hard to not fued on here with anyone. With your complete lies and total idiocy, I simply couldn't hold back. Also, you're such an easy target because of what a simpleton you are. Then, you have the audacity to insult everyone's intelligence on this great forum by telling C3 and Chris to get back to what the site is all about? Talk about complete hypocrisy, that's it in a nutshell.

[QUOTE=Vino7373;2433425]Your record of fine reviews and intel are undisputed? Are you trying to kid yourself or others? I mean really. Any person on here can simply look through your posts to see the real you. You have reviews on Michele and Persian Kitty, that's it. The rest of your posts are comment posts or bashing on other mongers or your creepy fixation on bashing Dallas. There is no intel at all involved in what you post. Oh, you do have one important post that I read. It was the one where you were praising Jaguar for his valuable info that he gave us. How'd that work out?

What you're doing wouldn't be the end of the world or anything but I just couldn't let this one go without a rebuttal. I mean this post by you is so ridiculous, even by your standards it's ludicrous what you're trying to put over on the real mongers on here.

My advice to the REAL mongers on here is to put you on their ignore list. That way, they don't have to read your drivel and they don't have to ever worry about ignoring a PM they receive from you.

I've been trying really hard to not fued on here with anyone. With your complete lies and total idiocy, I simply couldn't hold back. Also, you're such an easy target because of what a simpleton you are. Then, you have the audacity to insult everyone's intelligence on this great forum by telling C3 and Chris to get back to what the site is all about? Talk about complete hypocrisy, that's it in a nutshell.[/QUOTE]If you just look a little ways back at AO's posting history, you can see positive reviews of Dahlia, Skyler from Luxsa and Jackie (bodyrubs on BP). I can understand why some of you guys don't like AO because of his abrasive style of posting and calling BS as he sees it, but why are you lying about his posting history? I know he has seen Tina from BP bodyrubs as well. You can get on him for his opinions, but he has posted intel on some providers. By lying about him not sharing useful info, you guys (C3 & Vino), just make yourselves look bad because we can easily check for ourselves and see the facts.

I expect BS from Vino, but I am surprised C3 is giving out false info, as I have found him to be a very stand up person on the forum.

[QUOTE=Vino7373;2433425]Your record of fine reviews and intel are undisputed? Are you trying to kid yourself or others? I mean really. Any person on here can simply look through your posts to see the real you. You have reviews on Michele and Persian Kitty, that's it. The rest of your posts are comment posts or bashing on other mongers or your creepy fixation on bashing Dallas. There is no intel at all involved in what you post. Oh, you do have one important post that I read. It was the one where you were praising Jaguar for his valuable info that he gave us. How'd that work out?

What you're doing wouldn't be the end of the world or anything but I just couldn't let this one go without a rebuttal. I mean this post by you is so ridiculous, even by your standards it's ludicrous what you're trying to put over on the real mongers on here.

My advice to the REAL mongers on here is to put you on their ignore list. That way, they don't have to read your drivel and they don't have to ever worry about ignoring a PM they receive from you.

I've been trying really hard to not fued on here with anyone. With your complete lies and total idiocy, I simply couldn't hold back. Also, you're such an easy target because of what a simpleton you are. Then, you have the audacity to insult everyone's intelligence on this great forum by telling C3 and Chris to get back to what the site is all about? Talk about complete hypocrisy, that's it in a nutshell.[/QUOTE]My reviews go WELL beyond Michelle and Persian you dip shit. Mya, Jasmin, Jackie, Dayana, Skyler, Heidi, Candyland, Venus, Tina, multiple AMPs, Multiple UTR's, oh and Dahlia (who blackballed you and Jazak and all the other losers of your ilk). YOU who led naive mongers like myself into multiple dangerous / rip off situations with white knight reviews should STFU already. Play safe all and watch out whose "review" you can "take to the bank". VERY few of us qualify!

But I don't think I am. So, I spent five minutes of my life that I will never get back to do a rough count of how many reviews the gentleman has made. I went back a year and found two for Michele1 L, two for Skyler, one for Luxsa and I didn't see the one for Dahlia you stated he made. Not saying it isn't there, but I didn't notice it (and I was looking for her name to pop up).

I really don't have an opinion one way or another of the gentleman other than I know him to be someone who will bash about anyone for any reason. He has championed morons and bashed some folks that didn't earn it. My point is, we thrive on intel and he just doesn't offer much. His call on that. We all approach this hobby in different ways for different reasons.

Sorry, Otwist, I just don't agree with your assessment that the comments by Vino and myself (and Chris5) are false. I have no idea if the gentleman is a stand up person, but his additions to the forum tend to lack depth.

Just one man's opinion.

C3.

[QUOTE=Otwist;2433480]If you just look a little ways back at AO's posting history, you can see positive reviews of Dahlia, Skyler from Luxsa and Jackie (bodyrubs on BP). I can understand why some of you guys don't like AO because of his abrasive style of posting and calling BS as he sees it, but why are you lying about his posting history? I know he has seen Tina from BP bodyrubs as well. You can get on him for his opinions, but he has posted intel on some providers. By lying about him not sharing useful info, you guys (C3 & Vino), just make yourselves look bad because we can easily check for ourselves and see the facts.

I expect BS from Vino, but I am surprised C3 is giving out false info, as I have found him to be a very stand up person on the forum.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=AncientOne;2433328]Hope you two losers had fun ganging up on me here in the Rat Trap with the last few posts. Your lives must really be lacking any substance. My record of fine reviews and intel are undisputed (except for you 2 clowns) here in USA. To those mongers who know and respect me, always Play Safe! Lets get back to the basics of what this site is all about.[/QUOTE]Ancientone I gave you my personal opinion and advice in a very long post to you and of course you slap my hand away! Undisputed intel and great review's? Either you are high on drugs or drunk on alcohol! Either way douchebag there is no helping you. I will no longer offer you any of my advice. You are a complete idiot.