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[QUOTE=TJFun;4270520]Sounds like you had a great time. I must be a cheap bastard. I do not mean to criticize you. It's just that two bills for an hour of covered fun just seems a lot to me. It's not made of platinum. It's not just you. I am sticker shocked by the cost of services here in general. I'm sure I'm spoiled having lived in Mexico and SE Asia. But even in San Diego, there is an echoing theme on the San Diego / Tj forums encouraging guys to NOT ruin the market by over paying. Before the Gov ruined CL, one could get young gorgeous home delivered GFE for 1 to 1.5 anywhere in SD County. In part this was proximity to TJ, but in part it was because guys just wouldn't pay more. I'm probably tilting at windmills here, but I've watched as guys with deep pockets have ruined Nogales. Even as far as Nogales is, were it competitive, it would help control prices here.[/QUOTE]I agree with TJ. 2 large is too much. 1 + house is more than enough.
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Agree
[QUOTE=TJFun;4270520]Sounds like you had a great time. I must be a cheap bastard. I do not mean to criticize you. It's just that two bills for an hour of covered fun just seems a lot to me. It's not made of platinum. It's not just you. I am sticker shocked by the cost of services here in general. I'm sure I'm spoiled having lived in Mexico and SE Asia. But even in San Diego, there is an echoing theme on the San Diego / Tj forums encouraging guys to NOT ruin the market by over paying. Before the Gov ruined CL, one could get young gorgeous home delivered GFE for 1 to 1.5 anywhere in SD County. In part this was proximity to TJ, but in part it was because guys just wouldn't pay more. I'm probably tilting at windmills here, but I've watched as guys with deep pockets have ruined Nogales. Even as far as Nogales is, were it competitive, it would help control prices here.[/QUOTE]I knew I was overpaying but when I saw what she was offering Ibmade abrun at it. I offered 1 bill (afterbpaying the 60 for the hour) she flat out rejected it. Then she countered at $120 for a half hour. ? What. Then she popped the girls out and I caved at 1. 4 for the hour. No regrets. But I get the implications.
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Limits
[QUOTE=BigShow;4270901]I agree with TJ. 2 large is too much. 1 + house is more than enough.[/QUOTE]Gentlemen:
Let us agree that the ladies currently offering services at Sun are clearly over priced. The market rate is the House fee plus $100.00 for full service. For heavens sake, this is Tucson and not a major economic engine where money grows on trees. Price control is everyones' responsibility.
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[QUOTE=Donegal1;4270907]I knew I was overpaying but when I saw what she was offering Ibmade abrun at it. I offered 1 bill (afterbpaying the 60 for the hour) she flat out rejected it. Then she countered at $120 for a half hour. ? What. Then she popped the girls out and I caved at 1. 4 for the hour. No regrets. But I get the implications.[/QUOTE]I have posted what you are up against before. Stand by.
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Sticker Shock.
[QUOTE=PartyBoy68;4271183]Gentlemen:
Let us agree that the ladies currently offering services at Sun are clearly over priced. The market rate is the House fee plus $100.00 for full service. For heavens sake, this is Tucson and not a major economic engine where money grows on trees. Price control is everyones' responsibility.[/QUOTE]A few years ago, I was visiting Adelita's in TJ. I met a new girl. Absolutely gorgeous. At the time, the going rate was $50 upstairs. She was asking $80. It was Thursday. I asked how many customers she had that week. She told me 3. I asked one of the regular girls how many customers she had that week. She told us 3 to 5 each day. I suggested to the new girl that she should consider the math. Then I left. Next time I went in, she was offering services at $50.
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[QUOTE=Donegal1;4270907]Then she countered at ...[/QUOTE]Located it. :
[QUOTE=NotPhatAz;4139724]You are at a culture disadvantage in negotiating, comparatively she is a seasoned professional.
This touches it a bit.
[URL]https://www.pon.harvard.edu/daily/business-negotiations/how-to-deal-with-cultural-differences-in-negotiation/[/URL][/QUOTE]
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Rain visit
Hit up rain and asked for yo yo, she was apparently too busy so I got lisa. She's ok looking and friendly with an ok massage and flip. Yo yo is probably the better of the 2 as 3 other people cam in asking for here and I can hear the interactions. Lisa was pretty average across the board. I know theres better to be had so I wouldn't repeat.
On the subject of Service prices, it does seem the ladies are trying to upsell beyond what I would agree is the norm of 1 + house for great service. This last time included, I started low and they jumped to something high like 1. 4 which I shake my head to. I never agree to more than 100 anymore. Lets try to restabilize the market here like PB said, this isn't some exotic land with perfect 10's running around.
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Az spa?
Not sure if that's the right name, but it's the one on the SW corner of Speedway and Craycroft.
I went in there the other day just to try it out. Fairly good looking woman met me at the door, so I went in. She was wearing a really short skirt and I like that.
She took the house fee for thirty minutes and it wasn't long until we were down to business. We were negotiating FS and I offered a c note. She grabbed an additional three twenties and I complained it was too much. She was quite set on that amount so I stopped arguing. I had a pretty good time, but will not return due to the grabbing hands.
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Go in with House fee in one pocket, planned tip in another. Maybe keep an "emergency" couple of bills in another pocket. Limits what you can spend while you're there, and limits the amount of cash they see you pull out. When that's all you got, that's all you got, and they can't ask for more than that.
[QUOTE=Kveldulf;4273527]Not sure if that's the right name, but it's the one on the SW corner of Speedway and Craycroft.
I went in there the other day just to try it out. Fairly good looking woman met me at the door, so I went in. She was wearing a really short skirt and I like that.
She took the house fee for thirty minutes and it wasn't long until we were down to business. We were negotiating FS and I offered a c note. She grabbed an additional three twenties and I complained it was too much. She was quite set on that amount so I stopped arguing. I had a pretty good time, but will not return due to the grabbing hands.[/QUOTE]
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Az
[QUOTE=Kveldulf;4273527]Not sure if that's the right name, but it's the one on the SW corner of Speedway and Craycroft.
I went in there the other day just to try it out. Fairly good looking woman met me at the door, so I went in. She was wearing a really short skirt and I like that.
She took the house fee for thirty minutes and it wasn't long until we were down to business. We were negotiating FS and I offered a c note. She grabbed an additional three twenties and I complained it was too much. She was quite set on that amount so I stopped arguing. I had a pretty good time, but will not return due to the grabbing hands.[/QUOTE]Yoyo or Susu?
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[QUOTE=Ternymph;4273561]Yoyo or Susu?[/QUOTE]No idea except she was not the Korean?
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Az
Had a session with Susu Yesterday. Quite attractive, I would say the best looking extras provider I've been with in Tucson (contrary to the review on RM, she's about 35 and 5'2" with a halfway decent massage. Wouldn't do anything for 40, for 60 I got a HJ and played with her tits. For me, not worth repeating, just wasn't very interesting to me, once the HJ started she just wanted to get it done.
She's here from NY, goes back in a couple of months.
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[QUOTE=Kveldulf;4273527]Not sure if that's the right name, but it's the one on the SW corner of Speedway and Craycroft.
I went in there the other day just to try it out. Fairly good looking woman met me at the door, so I went in. She was wearing a really short skirt and I like that.
She took the house fee for thirty minutes and it wasn't long until we were down to business. We were negotiating FS and I offered a c note. She grabbed an additional three twenties and I complained it was too much. She was quite set on that amount so I stopped arguing. I had a pretty good time, but will not return due to the grabbing hands.[/QUOTE]Are you saying she took another 60 on top of the c note?
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More Sticker Shock
[QUOTE=BigShow;4274306]Are you saying she took another 60 on top of the c note?[/QUOTE]You pay $60 for an hour 'massage'. I assume a third to half of that goes to the girl. $60 more should be a perfectly adequate tip. For $120 total, you should get just about anything you want. If they won't take $60, just make 'them give you a massage and tip them $10. I guarantee if enough guys start doing that, the prices will start to get reasonable. Reading the Phoenix reports, I saw several guys who paid in this range and one who got CBJ for $30.
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Yoyo
[QUOTE=RedPillRampage;4273344]Hit up rain and asked for yo yo, she was apparently too busy so I got lisa. She's ok looking and friendly with an ok massage and flip. Yo yo is probably the better of the 2 as 3 other people cam in asking for here and I can hear the interactions. Lisa was pretty average across the board. I know theres better to be had so I wouldn't repeat.
On the subject of Service prices, it does seem the ladies are trying to upsell beyond what I would agree is the norm of 1 + house for great service. This last time included, I started low and they jumped to something high like 1. 4 which I shake my head to. I never agree to more than 100 anymore. Lets try to restabilize the market here like PB said, this isn't some exotic land with perfect 10's running around.[/QUOTE]I saw Yoyo the other day and she's really cute, but I'd didn't think she was particularly great for the price. I paid. 6 for the hour to the house and left. 8 on the table. She asked what I wanted and I said everything. She said they don't do FS, offered nude CBJ and I said okay, but then she looked at what I left out and demanded. 2 more, which I agreed to. It was nice, but not anything special. If I had it to do over again, I wouldn't have bothered.
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[QUOTE=GuyInTucson;4274555] left 8 on the table ..but then she looked at what I left out and demanded 2 more, which I agreed to. [/QUOTE]Tragic error.
More demanded?
Remove 2.
Not accepted?
Walk.
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[QUOTE=Ternymph;4273561]Yoyo or Susu?[/QUOTE]I had a very similar so so session with susu and would not repeat.
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Yoyo
[QUOTE=NotPhatAz;4275551]Tragic error.
More demanded?
Remove 2.
Not accepted?
Walk.[/QUOTE]Live and learn. The review I read described her as playful so I gambled. And lost.
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Yessir
[QUOTE=BigShow;4274306]Are you saying she took another 60 on top of the c note?[/QUOTE]Grabbed it right out of my hand.
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King Spa
Was met by a middle aged mediocre and asked who was available. Cece was also avail. Not bad 5/10, nice smile. Paid for 30 min. Got on the table and really worked the back with forearms, elbows and knuckles. Very good massage 8/10. After flip went right for jr. Nicely done. Gave. 3 tip which I think is good for a half hr treatment. She pushed hard for more "more dollars!" English was limited. I simply smiled and thanked her very much for a nice massage and said that is all I have. After 30 seconds she gave up and smiled back.
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Thanks for the radar.
[QUOTE=HenryJ70;4257791]If she is on the short, very cute with light red / blonde hair. Great smile. 9 SPA for sure, which by the way gets a lot of traffic!![/QUOTE]This description does not match. I do appreciate your report.
-MP.
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Rain
[QUOTE=Kveldulf;4276081]Grabbed it right out of my hand.[/QUOTE]To be honest, that's almost all of my experiences at Rain. Hard upsell and just poor attitudes if they don't get the money they want which they just pull out of their ass and is ridiculously high. I still laugh about the first time I went there and was treated to a boxing round with one of the masseuses there and my dong was the bag. I'm not even joking either, it was one of the most bizarre encounters I've ever had.
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[QUOTE=DkPersonal;4276820]To be honest, that's almost all of my experiences at Rain. Hard upsell and just poor attitudes if they don't get the money they want which they just pull out of their ass and is ridiculously high. I still laugh about the first time I went there and was treated to a boxing round with one of the masseuses there and my dong was the bag. I'm not even joking either, it was one of the most bizarre encounters I've ever had.[/QUOTE]"boxing round. And my dong was the bag". I can't stop laughing, but I'm certain it wasn't funny to you at the time.
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Mei
First time post, been a while since I saw anything about Mei. That's my usual.
The ladies are usually a 4 or 5/10 at best, but they make up for it in fun and enthusiasm, which is why I prefer it.
Today I met with Mimi, as she was the only one there. Never met her before. Easily 45-50 years, I'd say 4/10 is generous.
40 to the house and the massage began. Easily the best actual massage I've ever gotten at an AMP. Head to toe, deep tissue, was surprisingly relaxing. Time came for the flip, she wanted HJ only and the whole reason I go is for the CFS. She claimed they had no covers (the other girl was obtaining more at the grocery store next door) and she was adamant that she didn't want a baby. I took her at her word and I certainly didn't want cooties. We negotiated to some saran wrap and with some enthusiastic moaning and humming, she did just fine by me.
The surprise was her breasts. AMAZING and perky and full. Large C or small D. I tipped 60, felt a little like I overpaid but wasn't disappointed about it.
I like Mei for the sure thing in the 120-140 (total) range, but it didn't happen for me today. I'll still go back next time I start climbing the walls and need to relax, but I hope my usual gal is back by then.
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[QUOTE=Archie36;4278537]First time post, been a while since I saw anything about Mei. That's my usual.
The ladies are usually a 4 or 5/10 at best, but they make up for it in fun and enthusiasm, which is why I prefer it.
Today I met with Mimi, as she was the only one there. Never met her before. Easily 45-50 years, I'd say 4/10 is generous.
40 to the house and the massage began. Easily the best actual massage I've ever gotten at an AMP. Head to toe, deep tissue, was surprisingly relaxing. Time came for the flip, she wanted HJ only and the whole reason I go is for the CFS. She claimed they had no covers (the other girl was obtaining more at the grocery store next door) and she was adamant that she didn't want a baby. I took her at her word and I certainly didn't want cooties. We negotiated to some saran wrap and with some enthusiastic moaning and humming, she did just fine by me.
The surprise was her breasts. AMAZING and perky and full. Large C or small D. I tipped 60, felt a little like I overpaid but wasn't disappointed about it.
I like Mei for the sure thing in the 120-140 (total) range, but it didn't happen for me today. I'll still go back next time I start climbing the walls and need to relax, but I hope my usual gal is back by then.[/QUOTE]Who is your "usual gal"?
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Mei.
[QUOTE=TheLadysMan;4278625]Who is your "usual gal"?[/QUOTE]She keeps changing her mind. Sometimes "Lo lo" and sometimes "Lulu. " Probably 40 ish, 5'6", small B cup, pretty distinctive beauty mark — hell, it's a mole — halfway down her back right on her spine.
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Super TOFTT.
As I previously mentioned. Since I've seen no other reports, I went for a visit. Mostly open, with two "private" rooms. Hardly any English spoken, between the two women and one man present. It appears completely legit.
However. The massage was superior. Lots of skilz. I didn't try to request any extras given the language issue. There was some incidental contact on both parts, but hands were firmly moved to the table on a couple of occasions. So 6 to the house and 2 for a tip. A pleasing hour of bodywork.
Might go back after a while. If they survive.
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[QUOTE=Evan8571;4278667]As I previously mentioned. Since I've seen no other reports, I went for a visit. Mostly open, with two "private" rooms. Hardly any English spoken, between the two women and one man present. It appears completely legit.
However. The massage was superior. Lots of skilz. I didn't try to request any extras given the language issue. There was some incidental contact on both parts, but hands were firmly moved to the table on a couple of occasions. So 6 to the house and 2 for a tip. A pleasing hour of bodywork.
Might go back after a while. If they survive.[/QUOTE]So which place is this?
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Read the Title
If you read my posts, you will see I had made (which I referenced) a post about this new location. With a request for intelligence.
As I mentioned, as I had seen no other reports, so (as I had also mentioned) I went to check it myself.
The Title of the original post was "Super".
The title of the followup post was "Super TOFTT".
TOFTT, if you refer to the abbreviations list available here, stands for "Take One For The Team". Which I did. And reported.
The Spa in question is Super Spa. Please refer to my and others posts in its regard.
You're welcome!
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Star
I had occasion to re-visit Star. Hoping my luck would improve since the last visit.
Very pleased. New girl there; Michelle. Friendly, curvy and fun. Quiet, but good English. Very nice massage finished with a tickle and an awesome HE. Lovely hands.
I'll return. You should visit Michelle.
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Sun Jasmine
Dreamed about going to Jasmine on prince and Sun recently.
Jasmine. Outstanding massage right up there with the best. Did not ask and did not want to go further with this one. Highly recommend for great massage.
Sun. Mimi the Korean chick is gone supposedly went to Albq. The outstanding kaylee / Katie is there and an "Eva" tallish pretty face maybe new. No Elaine not sure where she is unless she was Eva and could not recognize. Kaylee is very funny as well as other good things.
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9 and Rain
Recently visited these two establishments for the first time. The women are attractive in both spots, but the amount they charge for the standard HJ and CBJ with saran wrap just does not make it worth it. It looks like some previous posts have come to the same conclusion.
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Elaine
[QUOTE=Franco1176;4281607]Dreamed about going to Jasmine on prince and Sun recently.
Jasmine. Outstanding massage right up there with the best. Did not ask and did not want to go further with this one. Highly recommend for great massage.
Sun. Mimi the Korean chick is gone supposedly went to Albq. The outstanding kaylee / Katie is there and an "Eva" tallish pretty face maybe new. No Elaine not sure where she is unless she was Eva and could not recognize. Kaylee is very funny as well as other good things.[/QUOTE]Elaine was there less than a week ago.
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[QUOTE=Evan8571;4281046]I had occasion to re-visit Star. Hoping my luck would improve since the last visit.
Very pleased. New girl there; Michelle. Friendly, curvy and fun. Quiet, but good English. Very nice massage finished with a tickle and an awesome HE. Lovely hands.
I'll return. You should visit Michelle.[/QUOTE]What was the $$ damage? Was only HE offered or more FS available?
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Dallas
Again, I know it's not Tucson, but if you find yourself in Dallas and want a great AMP experience he knout Walnut Hill street. A side note there are SW'ers everywhere on that street, and not being discrete at all LOL. I visited Lucky Haven and am blown away at the difference in level of service. Way above and beyond the best level and quality of service above Tucson. Also, they use terms on their page to describe their level of service, e. G. , L1, L2, L3 and L4. Also they have AMPs with Latinas, or pretty much any kind of woman. As for service there, if you want BBFS, or Greek both are on the table, it was wild to learn. Not my style, but just amazed to see how different it is there.
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[QUOTE=BluePenny;4282561]Recently visited these two establishments for the first time. The women are attractive in both spots, but the amount they charge for the standard HJ and CBJ with saran wrap just does not make it worth it. It looks like some previous posts have come to the same conclusion.[/QUOTE]9 and Rain are owned by the same people, the girls rotate between both places. Seems to be becoming more common as the number of AMPs have increased around town.
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Mimi in ABQ
[QUOTE=Franco1176;4281607]Dreamed about going to Jasmine on prince and Sun recently.
Jasmine. Outstanding massage right up there with the best. Did not ask and did not want to go further with this one. Highly recommend for great massage.
Sun. Mimi the Korean chick is gone supposedly went to Albq. The outstanding kaylee / Katie is there and an "Eva" tallish pretty face maybe new. No Elaine not sure where she is unless she was Eva and could not recognize. Kaylee is very funny as well as other good things.[/QUOTE]Interestingly enough, I was in Albuquerque last week, wandered into a random AMP (just said Massage on the window, didn't ask the name) and met a Mimi that I really enjoyed; go in well dressed, clean and friendly and she will treat you right. No clue if this just happens to be the one from Tucson (never went to Sun), location is east side of San Mateo just north of I40.
Safe travels.
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Life
Took too many cough drops and dreamed I went to Life Spa. A girl name Coco was there. Looks where 2/10 (older lady), massage was 2/10, flip HE was 4/10. Standard rates. Go elsewhere.
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Az
I heard that there was a 3rd at az so I decided that I would go to investigate. Upon my arrival, I'm greeted by Yuki, she looked rank. She was acting strung out and this wasn't the first time I've seen her in this kind of state. Up until now, it hadn't dawned on me that some of the AMP girls might have these kinds of problems. It's very, very common with SW, strippers, backpage girls, etc. But I guess I just hadn't thought about it before. It made me feel kind of bad, kind of turned me off from going to another AMP afterwards but I just left, I ain't got time to see that.
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Sun closed for now.
As many probably already know sun is closed as of today for renovations I am told. Not sure how long.
Cheers.