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I completely agree, and prefer to use a burner App over carrying the extra device. Beside, all these burner phones use location services like any other phone. They give out the location of the person carrying it even if they are turned off. And if LEO truly wants to locate someone, all they have to do is locate the signal of the phone. Burner App, on the other hand, I don't believe that it uses location services for anything. It is literally like having an old dumb phone, or analog cell phone without internet, simply for two functions. To make calls and text, and no need for accessing location services. Therefore, to track someone using an burner App, may be much harder and require more effort to find the user. I am thinking, the crime would have to be of much larger proportions than just locating a guy looking for a blowjob, for them to be requesting payment records from Apple or Google, and trying to find out who purchased the app. Anyway, just my two sense on this issue. Still, always be careful, no matter what you use.

[QUOTE=NCTransplant;5154935]I use Next Plus. I don't think they can trace you if you use one of these apps. If they can it won't be easy. They would have to trace it back to the provider of the number and if you are using a bullshit name there they would have to get your payment info from Apple or Google. Seems like a lot of trouble just to bust a guy trying to buy a blow job. I would guess the texting apps would be harder to trace than a burner phone. Those phones have numbers attached to a carrier and if you created an account to activate the phone LEO can probably trace it.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=NCTransplant;5155068]You buy minutes for Next Plus but the texts are free. I haven't bought any minutes in years as I mostly use the text. It cost me just $1. 99 a year to keep my number which I have used for years. The sound they play with their ads does get damn annoying though. The ads seem to only play on my phone, not my tablet. I can deal with the ads but blasting sound when I am trying to be quiet is annoying. I can hush it by closing the app and reopening it.[/QUOTE]I went to Walmart in a hat, mask and shades. Paid cash, bought re load cards with cash on ore paid plan. No name verification done either. Be aware, if the man wants to get you, stingray is able to link location even if you turn it off. So if you are doing recon don't bring your smart phone with you. Otherwise it's as anonymous as you can be.

I thought I'd throw this out there. I've been using Visible as a carrier for several months, 40 a month for one line or 25 each for 4 lines. Unlimited without throttling on everything except 5 g at 200 g then drop you to 4 g LTE as far as I know even the hotspot is unlimited. Works great where ever Verizon is available, keeps you from using hotel or public wifi and I can use several devices off hotspot. Works so good I dumped Spectrum for internet at home. It does all the streaming services flawlessly, also the 4 lines are separate accounts so a group of 4 can sign up get separate bills $25 each.

Verizon coverage is horrible in some parts of SC where I live. I had Verizon for years until I moved to SC and had to switch to ATT. There are parts of Fort Mill where I couldn't even get one bar of signal. Sprint & ATT seem to be the best. Verizon has been trying to build a tower in Clover for years around that old mill on 321 and people have been fighting it and protesting it. They don't want a cell tower in their backyard. I wonder how many of those protesting have cell phones? That is the big reason that Spectrum mobile is a deal-breaker for me. Something like Straight Talk from Walmart has contracts with all the major carriers and will switch your tower to the one that has the best signal. Verizon was great when I was in Mecklenburg or Cabarrus counties. Not so good in York county of SC. That is something to consider. Where you need the service is important.

[QUOTE=Crewzin;5155591]I thought I'd throw this out there. I've been using Visible as a carrier for several months, 40 a month for one line or 25 each for 4 lines. Unlimited without throttling on everything except 5 g at 200 g then drop you to 4 g LTE as far as I know even the hotspot is unlimited. Works great where ever Verizon is available, keeps you from using hotel or public wifi and I can use several devices off hotspot. Works so good I dumped Spectrum for internet at home. It does all the streaming services flawlessly, also the 4 lines are separate accounts so a group of 4 can sign up get separate bills $25 each.[/QUOTE]

That is true but don't they have to know what phone they are tracking? Seems like a lot of trouble to get someone for a misdemeanor offense. The biggest thing is your real number isn't stored on a provider's phone where they can get it and find out who you are that way. If LEO gets into a provider's phone and they can see the messages you have sent them they have evidence. That is the biggest thing to worry about. I don't know if they would go to the trouble of tracking your phone just for buying a blowjob.

[QUOTE=Titlicka;5155244]I went to Walmart in a hat, mask and shades. Paid cash, bought re load cards with cash on ore paid plan. No name verification done either. Be aware, if the man wants to get you, stingray is able to link location even if you turn it off. So if you are doing recon don't bring your smart phone with you. Otherwise it's as anonymous as you can be.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=NCTransplant;5155818]That is true but don't they have to know what phone they are tracking? Seems like a lot of trouble to get someone for a misdemeanor offense. The biggest thing is your real number isn't stored on a provider's phone where they can get it and find out who you are that way. If LEO gets into a provider's phone and they can see the messages you have sent them they have evidence. That is the biggest thing to worry about. I don't know if they would go to the trouble of tracking your phone just for buying a blowjob.[/QUOTE]I knew a guy arrested a few years back in Greenville when a lady advertised massages, but was busted for soliciting. The guy was charged with a misdemeanor and lost his job, face in the media, then all that fun stuff that followed. He lives in Idaho now. Maybe it's just me, but why risk this over a minor charge?? Leo got his information from girl’s phone and her corroboration by offering her a lesser charge. This is why I go yo extra lengths to avoid problems like this.

[QUOTE=Titlicka;5156223]I knew a guy arrested a few years back in Greenville when a lady advertised massages, but was busted for soliciting. The guy was charged with a misdemeanor and lost his job, face in the media, then all that fun stuff that followed. He lives in Idaho now. Maybe it's just me, but why risk this over a minor charge?? Leo got his information from girls phone and her corroboration by offering her a lesser charge. This is why I go yo extra lengths to avoid problems like this.[/QUOTE]Sounds like he had a shit lawyer.

Ahhhh. The answer is in your own post and goes back to my fear. If they get your information off the girl's phone along with your messages you are cooked. If you are using a burner phone that can't be traced they don't know who you are. All the more reason to use a burner phone or an app. It sounds like to me that the phone wasn't traced. They got the evidence they needed from the provider's phone. I would always be concerned about my phone number being saved in a provider's phone. Best not be your real number.

[QUOTE=Titlicka;5156223]I knew a guy arrested a few years back in Greenville when a lady advertised massages, but was busted for soliciting. The guy was charged with a misdemeanor and lost his job, face in the media, then all that fun stuff that followed. He lives in Idaho now. Maybe it's just me, but why risk this over a minor charge?? Leo got his information from girls phone and her corroboration by offering her a lesser charge. This is why I go yo extra lengths to avoid problems like this.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FunderJ;5130479]I hope this question is in the correct thread but do you mongers know how to upload a video? I saw in the FAQ that zip files are automatically deleted. If I don't zip the mp4 file, I get an invalid file extension message. I appreciate the reports especially from the senior members.

[blue]You can't upload videos

A2[/blue][/QUOTE]Maybe upload to pornhub then link?

I have seen that done on other boards.

[QUOTE=PSeries;5156384]Maybe upload to pornhub then link?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Titlicka;5156223]I knew a guy arrested a few years back in Greenville when a lady advertised massages, but was busted for soliciting. The guy was charged with a misdemeanor and lost his job, face in the media, then all that fun stuff that followed. He lives in Idaho now. Maybe it's just me, but why risk this over a minor charge?? Leo got his information from girls phone and her corroboration by offering her a lesser charge. This is why I go yo extra lengths to avoid problems like this.[/QUOTE]Not to discourage anyone from taking whatever precautions they feel are necessary but this is why I mostly stick with slightly higher end / more expensive places. Generally speaking you don't see Eros or AMPs getting in trouble because the cops don't want to bother them. The girls at Nice have told me several times that Judges/cops use their spa - and it's not like these places aren't sitting right out in the open for LEO to find if they wanted to. Cops in most jurisdictions are more concerned with removing the type of prostitution that exists concurrently with sex trafficking, drugs, pimps, etc. They're not as worried about all working girls so much as they are the ones that are gonna cause trouble elsewhere.

Furthermore NEVER discuss explicit acts over text / phone. It's always just "I'd like to set up some time together" or "a session". That's easy easy plausible deniability and there's no way a the will try and file charges with evidence like that. Now if you go texting this girl "do you do BBBJ" then ask her what her rate is you've automatically put in writing that you're soliciting someone. Like not to be rude but most of the people busted for this sort of stuff are not that bright and don't think twice about straight up asking about specific acts and costs. Like all these posts I see on here where someone inquires about BB and is told it's an upcharge. That's direct evidence of solicitation in writing.

Now you might end up spending a bit of money on an experience that's a bit different than what you wanted, like maybe you show up and find out the girl only does CBJ or whatever, but at the end of the day that's an easy tradeoff for me vs having a written record of solicitation.

Based on what I've been told and seen a lot of upscale providers won't even accept clients with app or voip #s for security purposes because of all the issues they have with them and scheduling.

[QUOTE=CuriousGeor;5156642]Not to discourage anyone from taking whatever precautions they feel are necessary but this is why I mostly stick with slightly higher end / more expensive places. Generally speaking you don't see Eros or AMPs getting in trouble because the cops don't want to bother them. The girls at Nice have told me several times that Judges/cops use their spa - and it's not like these places aren't sitting right out in the open for LEO to find if they wanted to. Cops in most jurisdictions are more concerned with removing the type of prostitution that exists concurrently with sex trafficking, drugs, pimps, etc. They're not as worried about all working girls so much as they are the ones that are gonna cause trouble elsewhere.

Furthermore NEVER discuss explicit acts over text / phone. It's always just "I'd like to set up some time together" or "a session". That's easy easy plausible deniability and there's no way a the will try and file charges with evidence like that. Now if you go texting this girl "do you do BBBJ" then ask her what her rate is you've automatically put in writing that you're soliciting someone. Like not to be rude but most of the people busted for this sort of stuff are not that bright and don't think twice about straight up asking about specific acts and costs. Like all these posts I see on here where someone inquires about BB and is told it's an upcharge. That's direct evidence of solicitation in writing.

Now you might end up spending a bit of money on an experience that's a bit different than what you wanted, like maybe you show up and find out the girl only does CBJ or whatever, but at the end of the day that's an easy tradeoff for me vs having a written record of solicitation.[/QUOTE].

I have run into one or two that figured out I was using a VOIP number. If that is their policy I move to the next one. I am not giving them my real number. We take too much risk when we do that. I don't trust any of them that well. Even if you can trust them, if they get busted then LEO has your contact on their phone.

[QUOTE=KingEpqng;5156913]Based on what I've been told and seen a lot of upscale providers won't even accept clients with app or voip #s for security purposes because of all the issues they have with them and scheduling.

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[QUOTE=CuriousGeor;5156642]Not to discourage anyone from taking whatever precautions they feel are necessary but this is why I mostly stick with slightly higher end / more expensive places. They're not as worried about all working girls so much as they are the ones that are gonna cause trouble elsewhere.

Furthermore NEVER discuss explicit acts over text / phone. It's always just "I'd like to set up some time together" or "a session". That's easy easy plausible deniability and there's no way a the will try and file charges with evidence like that. Now if you go texting this girl "do you do BBBJ" then ask her what her rate is you've automatically put in writing that you're soliciting someone. Like not to be rude but most of the people busted for this sort of stuff are not that bright and don't think twice about straight up asking about specific acts and costs. Like all these posts I see on here where someone inquires about BB and is told it's an upcharge. That's direct evidence of solicitation in writing.

Now you might end up spending a bit of money on an experience that's a bit different than what you wanted, like maybe you show up and find out the girl only does CBJ or whatever, but at the end of the day that's an easy tradeoff for me vs having a written record of solicitation.[/QUOTE]You called it "easy plausible deniability" - now that's what I'm talking about. Whether in person in a store, or by text or email, or on the phone, there is nothing wrong with asking questions like: are you open minded, do you know anybody that does housekeeping, or even- do you know anyone that's trying to make some extra money? Since you don't mention sex for money you could easily claim that you needed a housekeeper or gardening advice. Yes anyone could say "but we know what you meant". But that's impossible to prove. If the girl knows what you mean then it's mission accomplished. If anyone else hears about it just deny it all day long.

I tried using our code word roses in another forum to ask how much certain jobs pay. I was trying to ask without actually referring to money. They didn't understand the reference and told me that nobody gets paid in roses.

GB40.

So not sure how many of you do this; I have known a few mongers to track their mongers over the year. One guy I know kept a detailed spread sheet LOL. I don't go to that extent but I do track who and when. It all started when a cover broke while with a provider with questionable hygiene. You know that feeling, your doing the deed and all of a sudden it starts feeling really good, then you bust a big nut. You pull out and see that rubber ring at the base and your cock is all shiny with the mixed juices LOL. That was a sinking feeling for me and I was worried about STDs, so I recorded the date and her name. I came up clean but the habit stuck. I know alot of guys on here have SO so that's not a good idea, but its just me. So last year I made 95 recordings (obviously not all reported on here) I was stunned when I did the math at what I had spent. Any one else keep track of their visits or is this crazy and I should stop doing it immediately LOL. Don't think it would really prove anything in court if it came to that, my text messages are way more detailed lmao.