Philly Sugar

[QUOTE=Shampoo55;6834345]Hey Myth I agree paying for a Meet and Greet (M&G) is usually a scam and likely a girl who saw a TikToc video on how easy it is to get funds from guys.

As far as SA goes, yeah, they do kinda care about their site being used as a place for prostitution. The reason for the rebranding was the passage of the FOSTA / SESTA Law (thank you Backpage! NOT!) which makes the owner both criminally and civilly liable for prostitution, under-aged and sex trafficking on their website. Thus the rebranding to a "vanilla" dating site. Also, to provide some legal protection, they employ BOTs to scan profiles and messages to keep prostitution out. That is why we see so many reports about guys getting banned over there: because they slip up and talk about sex for money, etc. (got to take all of that p2 p convo stuff offsite!

But as time passes, the history is forgotten and a lot of people find SA and think it is a regular vanilla dating site. SO. That adds to the sifting, sorting and time wasting to find a SB on the site.

I will says this, as I come to the end of yet another month on SA. If youse can't find a girl who is DTF, perhaps a change of approach is in order. Most of what I have found are escort-lite girls: girls who want o meet and collect an "allowance" but have no intention to, nor no clue how to go about the 'relationship' part of a true, classic SD-SB relationship. Finding a true SB these days is a few orders of magnitude difficult that it was pre-pandemic.[/QUOTE]Thanks, appreciate the added information about FOSTA / SESTA. I'd agree that if you are looking for sex it's easy to find on SA. Harder to find the traditional Sugar Baby relationship.

[QUOTE=HenryT458;6834884]And this is exactly why it's been such a challenge for me to find a replacement partner. I was with the previous lady for 8 months. She was layed off at work. She found a new job in NYC. Too far and too inconvenient to continue our arrangement. We had a legit SD / SB relationship. That's what I'm looking for again. Not Escort-lite but that's all these GenZ ladies seem to be offering. Feels like they want to bang as many paying dudes as possible who meet their standards. Too much STD risk for my tastes. Oh well. This will take a lot of effort and time. If I'm fortunate enough to find it again.[/QUOTE]I lost my best SB to NYC probably 10 years ago. We still talk maybe every other month or so but we didn't meet on a website. I've finally found another one about a year ago. In between I've had a lot of fun! In my mind a good SB usually has aspirations other than supplementing their income through the highest bidder. They often leave the site after a while because they just aren't interesting in sleeping with a bunch of guys for money. And that's one of the reason I think they are difficult to find on line. I think the real jems are the ones that have only been on for less than a year and are fine doing free M&G. Dinner is usually enough to show you're interested and it may take work to maintain the relationship because they may have never imaged they'd be doing something like this!

[QUOTE=HenryT458;6834884]And this is exactly why it's been such a challenge for me to find a replacement partner. I was with the previous lady for 8 months. She was layed off at work. She found a new job in NYC. Too far and too inconvenient to continue our arrangement. We had a legit SD / SB relationship. That's what I'm looking for again. Not Escort-lite but that's all these GenZ ladies seem to be offering. Feels like they want to bang as many paying dudes as possible who meet their standards. Too much STD risk for my tastes. Oh well. This will take a lot of effort and time. If I'm fortunate enough to find it again.[/QUOTE]I've found the same thing for the last few subscriptions. I'm active again first time in six months and have had two "old school" meet and greets one that has potential though all others just want to M&F.

I suppose its possible, but I didn't get rinser vibes. Either way, I left it for her to contact me when she was ready again and haven't heard anything since, so I have moved on to others.

[QUOTE=BigDaddy1232;6829526]I am trying to get this one too, I personally don't think that she is DTF, she might be a rinser but we will see. I expect a sob story soon about how she needs money for something, I say no, then she disappears.

Dessprite.

Definitely DTF if you can get the schedule to work. We had planned to meet last weekend, but she backed out saying work went long, and her period started. Left it open that she will contact me again when ready so we will see. Pro Vibes. Agreed on 4. Pretty much same as the only other report on her, but doesn't seem like anyone has reported meeting her yet.[/QUOTE]

Went off the site to text very quickly. Seems to be on the site a lot. Works a full time job so can only meet after 430 pm during the week. Not a fit with my schedule. Very agreeable so I'm not certain she's real. (Maybe, I'm just too damn jaded.) Very agreeable raises my antenna. Anyway. Best of luck gents, she won't fit my schedule.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/a9073493-c1be-452d-b74f-a2468a6b0d6b[/URL]

[QUOTE=HenryT458;6839542]Went off the site to text very quickly. Seems to be on the site a lot. Works a full time job so can only meet after 430 pm during the week. Not a fit with my schedule. Very agreeable so I'm not certain she's real. (Maybe, I'm just too damn jaded.) Very agreeable raises my antenna. Anyway. Best of luck gents, she won't fit my schedule.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/a9073493-c1be-452d-b74f-a2468a6b0d6b[/URL][/QUOTE]Agreed- very quick to text. Seemed very agreeable. I feel like she quoted 5-7 or a ppm like that. I think she's CFS only and also seemed a bit vanilla. Doesn't work for a raw dawg like me LOL.

The only hope we have is that all those dumb **** millenial 304's daughters will be coming of age (turning 18) by the end of this decade so we might have have to wait until then.

[QUOTE=WaltoDerri267;6822440]I saw this girl last summer. She's fine with directly coming to the hotel to fuck. Told me she had "no time for dinner" because she wanted to be with her friends. She is no spinner but all natural tits and ass. Kind of boring and ruined it for me saying "I don't give head the first date". These goofy women and their stupid psychological barriers LOL. She makes an effort to try and make you cum fast (pornstar talk and such) but I made her work for what she wanted. Drilled her and gave her the old pump and dump since her schedule was not convenient to mine and I had discovered Colombia / other destinations being much more affordable with more women eager to please and do as you ask than not. (Do your research, don't just go in blind and get drugged and murdered).

Back to my main point, she seems to be a semi pro who doesn't seem too into this and doesn't give a true GFE. She wants to be in and out. If that's more your speed and you can part with 5 bens then have fun. If not, keep lookin.[/QUOTE]Yeah, this girl must do some BIG escort bidness. She was complaining to me about needing $2K per month to pay tuition and bills. But LOOK she's on Insta and was living it up large in Miami for spring break with her bestie. So she must be getting the dough from simps willing to fork over a half a stack for her puus.

One can find her using the reverse search techniques jj21211.

PinkAngel Drexel Hill.

I'm looking for a real SB in the traditional sense. This girl sure aint that, but for those just DTF she's probably yer girl. Asked her what she wanted for a M&G and she said meet in a hotel room.

But hey, if I'm gunna play with a new girl she needs to show me clean STD test results and she said she didn't have any. So IMHO, girlie you need to go get tested! NOT saying she has anything, probably not, but I prefer proof I can see.

But hey there is risk in this hobby and everyone chooses how they address risk: either by direct actions or ignoring. Just saying.

Oh and in subsequent pics, I'd say she put on a few lbs, perhaps 20?

Anyone had any success from this one from Newark, DE? Got the impression she wanted a platonic SD. Kept complaining about how her last SD wanted to get to intimacy WAY too fast as she is shy and needs to warm up to him before spreading her legs. So sounded like a rinser.

Maybe I was wrong in my eval?

Oh and she has a BIG TikToc page and perhaps is an OF Creator, but I didn't get to her page before the search site went pay.

Well this small BBW girl is looking for a platonic SD. GTFO! Where do these girls come from that think a dude is gunna pay her funds just to chat through text? Isn't that what OF is for?

This one just made me laugh. She's on the boarder of what I consider hot, or what I'd be willing at a premium. But has a serious case of being a Captain Ahab!

Told me she wants $1,000 ppm or $5,000 per month as that is what her last SD did. Tried talking to her to see if there was any flexibility and she pointed out the she lives in a $1 Million dollar house so that was justification for her ask. I mean seriously? Yer living at home with Mommy & Daddy and think the value of the real estate they owe to the bank is justification of your High ask? Oh sure perhaps there was some dude who paid exorbitant amounts while you were a young coed, but now, skinny looking?

Oh and tell me her middle pic isn't 5 yr old or something?

Smh.

Vibrant Vi 24 Aston.

OMG another one that has me cracking up.

Claims to be a sports writer of some sorts. Has an average look at best and apparently found some simp, overpaying, SD while in college. Now that these girls are no longer in college, young & pretty, and have put on a few lbs, why do they think they are entitled to BIG bucks. Brow beat me into sharing what I paid prior SBs (I've has a few that rivaled Escort prices) and she ghosted. Never quite said what was her ask, but assume it was GPS for what she brings to the table.

What these girls sure don't get is while I might not be paying HUGE amounts, initially, at whale prices, a recent SB did spur my generosity: I helped her pay off some bills, provided extra funds when she got in a pinch and often just floated hair & nails funds. But few girls these days know how to play the traditional SB game and inspire extras. Most, like this one, appear to want to show up, spread their legs and collect HUGE amounts. Sigh.

End of rant.

Amanda.

My suggestion to all is to keep their expectations low.

If you live on the east coast and are using a site like seeking, chances are you're not able to navigate the normal / vanilla dating world efficiently enough to get sex at a rate and amount that you are satisified with.

Nothing wrong with that, I am in that category too.

I do believe that it was easier to get laid from seeking in philly back in like 2015-2018, but that's not the case anymore.

It's getting harder and harder to get laid through seeking, and it will continue to get harder. Less girls are on the platform, more girls are annoying and un-fuckable. That's just the way things are.

No one wants to admit the reality that the site has gone to the shitter. Everyone is too idealistic and is totally fine with spending more of their time and effort into a dying site, in the hopes of finally getting laid again or finding a girl.

It's downright insanity.

There are alternatives like massage parlors and escorts in philly, even street walkers. But if you're like me, you don't want to deal with the illegality of all that shit, risk getting caught in a potential police sting with your pants down in a massage parlor, or some other law enforcement nonsense.

Therefore, seeking becomes a very attractive option.

Which ties back to what I said before, which is that seeking is a dying site and is actually a shit option.

So the REAL reality is that you're screwed. There, I said it. There is no "altnerative", you're just fucked, and you have to deal with it.

The only solution is to leave philly for good and go somewhere else where it's easier and much more favorable to monger. It's not favorable at all to monger in philly, no way whatsoever.

Locations like the Philippines and south america are much much more favorable. Places like this are catered to the monger, making it easer and actually encouraging for the monger. Things like not having to worry about law enforcement, cheaper prices, and a higher selection of girls that may be more pleasant and receptive to deal with. All of that is 1 million times better than whatever the shit philly is currently offering you.

No one wants to say these things though because it's a grim reality that is very difficult to accept.

This is why my main suggestion is what I mentioned before, keep expectations low.

These days, I use seeking passively to scan through girls in various cities, and send out messages to ones that particularly catch my interest with the intent of establishing a long term thing (it's a long shot, but I still drop a message just in case) OR I passively look through the profiles that are local in philly, message some that I find interesting, and take any lay ups that I can get it.

I'm never invested or really "trying" at all in any of my messages with local girls. Rather, I'm passively on the site and more so on the lookout for any girls that I can tell are interested, are going to make this easy for me, and are pretty much guaranteed to meet and give me a solid girlfriend experience. It's very situational based.

That's how I've been using the site lately and it's been pretty satisfying for me. I don't get a bunch of results and my results are fairly rare actually, but I'm okay with that because I've got other things I'm focused on. Mainly, I'm trying to get the hell out of philly as soon as I possibly can, and get to a place where it's actually favorable to be a monger. This is requiring me to direct my focus towards making more money, stability & saving money, and working through relocation.

[QUOTE=Shampoo55;6845693]PinkAngel Drexel Hill.

I'm looking for a real SB in the traditional sense. This girl sure aint that, but for those just DTF she's probably yer girl. Asked her what she wanted for a M&G and she said meet in a hotel room.

But hey, if I'm gunna play with a new girl she needs to show me clean STD test results and she said she didn't have any. So IMHO, girlie you need to go get tested! NOT saying she has anything, probably not, but I prefer proof I can see.

But hey there is risk in this hobby and everyone chooses how they address risk: either by direct actions or ignoring. Just saying.

Oh and in subsequent pics, I'd say she put on a few lbs, perhaps 20?[/QUOTE]Shampoo, might I suggest you look into getting on PrEP. Look into it. Reduces HIV exposure risk by 99%.

Anything else can be fixed with two pills. I been hobbying 30 years. Gotten the clap twice. I get tested 4 x per year. Don't do condoms. Prod paid for +/-1500 girls.