Arrangement Reports

[QUOTE=ChitownGuy321;4164317]I saw her a couple of years ago. She is as skinny as she looks in her photos. She hardly talked and basically just laid there. I can't recommend her unless she has changed, which I hope she has.[/QUOTE]I saw her twice a few months ago. Picked her up at home since she didn't have a car, had coffee, readily agreed to what I offered, and spent like three hours together, BBFS, anal on the table, but didn't partake. She's quiet but not non-responsive. Had a good time, and scheduled again. This time she was in a hotel in Schaumburg supposedly staying there since family was nearby (first time was New Lenox, where I'm at), and after dinner went back to her room where she had a couple of hats on the bedside table. Didn't peg her for a pro from the first visit, but that second one, especially making me use protection seemed to make things evident.

[QUOTE=Chicago41;4164325]That's a good idea. Ask if they'll meet you for a drink or dinner first.[/QUOTE]They seem willing to do that.

[QUOTE=Eternalchaoz;4164662]They seem willing to do that.[/QUOTE]Let me know if you need a wingman to help I would be more than willing to keep one of them busy while you work the other.

[QUOTE=KingForAMonth;4163327]Exactly. And it seems like there shouldn't be enough stupid men out there to keep falling for this scam. But just using this forum as an example. There are five guys a week who, without reading a single post ask "do you have to pay for SA?" or "tell me about SA" which shows how many guys are unwilling to do the tiniest amount of research and just want to jump in lazily thinking it's an easy avenue to cheap tail. Those are the guys who the scammers feed on and it's kinda ok with me.[/QUOTE]I clicked her profile link posted earlier and in seconds had a message from her. No doubt this is a scam.

[QUOTE=KingForAMonth;4164401]Same here, 3 months into it I was in deep financially but was just killing it on autopilot. Luckily I got banned so I didn't have to make the choice for myself, which I may not have. Spent a couple of months with the girls I had already connected with, which was about half the monthly costs, so I justified to myself getting back on the site (surprisingly easy after being banned for life) Hopefully can keep up the month on / month off routine or something similar otherwise going to have to sell my condo.[/QUOTE]Yeah, last year I had to take out a loan to pay off my credit cards because if SA. Got the loan paid off, and now I'm back again. The good thing though, is, I'm smarter and wiser. I stick to what I can afford and that's it. I'll do 3 if it gets me in the door, but only if she is really, really hot. When we meet, I negotiate subsequent dates for 2. I'm a nice guy and my dates tell me that they feel comfortable with me, and I've never had an issue. A lot of times, like when their funds go dry, they start to text 3-4 x a day. I'll tel them I can only do x amount, and they need cash for whatever, and they agree. I also have found that the older women are not only a better bargain, but way better in bed compared to the twentysomethings.

I'm also only planning to be on for one month this time and collect as many digits as I can. Problem with that is if you don't connect right away, it's not likely you ever will.

Back in May, I had a date set up with an ex Maxim model, she had a great body, at least in her pictures. I worked my ass of in the gym, going before work and after. I worked so hard it gave me a hernia, had to take a month off of work. Then she sent me recent pics and wow, nothing like she used to look like. She still owes me money. Lesson learned.

[QUOTE=FafaFooey;4145952]Very curious to hear more takes on this. I feel like its changed a lot over the last couple of years. My first go-round on SA was also two years ago, and back then it seemed like an efficient 'nice guy' approach was gold. I went into it skeptical, but I found a pattern of a relaxed coffee date followed by some friendly but persistent texting very often led to getting down to business anywhere from a few hours to a few days after the M&G. And this was with cute, clean, girls in the 20-25 range. Most of them were willing to do the no-pressure coffee meet, and then after seeing the 'nice guy' most of those were willing to take a chance on more intimate time, and most of them really let loose once it got started. The disarming face-to-face meet also made negotiating a reasonable donation much, much easier.

Back on SA now after finally getting a little more schedule and financial freedom, and finding it hard to even get that old process started. That 20-25 range seems almost completely filled with 'need money now' hustlers on one end and 'platonic' jittery girls who waffle endlessly about whether or not to even meet for coffee on the other. Yes there are times where its not the worst thing in the world to find a girl ready to go for money with no preliminaries but it wasn't what SA was really originally about, and the BCD experiences have left me flat. The best experiences from my first round pretty accurately captured the old college hook-up feeling and it was quite a thrill. The only real bites have been on the MILF / semi-bbw part of the spectrum. Again not awful if they have a good attitude and are usually happy with any small donation, but still not what SA really was supposed to be about.

But, still holding out hope that maybe the time of year has been a part of it and hoping warmer weather will bring out a new wave SBs with a more fun attitude.[/QUOTE]Thank you, I'm new to SA and was planning a similar approach. Roughly what donation have the girls been seeking recently and how does it compare to what they were asking for a few years ago when you had success with the 20-25 range?

Did you meet with qny of these three?

The Dominican looks gorgeous and so does the mixed girl.

[QUOTE=SouthsideJohn;4154196]Getting ready to pull the trigger on these ladies.

Anybody have any experience with them.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/c5ad1dd3-d4f5-4df9-ad94-ca38548c9e51[/URL]

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/3ce3af28-0424-4c16-8c66-42fdb8259aaf[/URL]

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/75291901-be19-47c0-a753-d951c9eabe17[/URL]

Thank you![/QUOTE]

This one wants you to give her an allowance for the "privilege" of taking her out on dates and spending even more money on her. She will give ambiguous answers about sex to string you along, but she has no intention of putting out. She is fatter than she leads you to believe with her pictures. Remember the old adage: if the pictures cut off everything below the boobs, she is hiding something.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/eaed82db-a638-af8c-2200-df81de37c971[/URL]

Here is another one that is all games. She messages me first and when I reply, she tells me she is looking for an online arrangement. I make it clear on my profile I'm not looking for anything online. She keeps reactivating and deactivating her profile. Just a time waster.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/f0caef93-a9cd-4dd8-97ff-21a2b5d05851[/URL]

These two would never believe I banged a 19 year old college student / gymnast for $100 after lunch three weeks ago. It never ceases to amaze me how delusional, marginally attractive women think we are going to send them the Brinks truck for nothing.

Get that sex.

SDX.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/14971076-f465-48c9-9a93-34e096323441[/URL]

Been a freshmen for a couple years now and has switched from Northwestern to DePaul, haha. Was raising money to go to Guatamala for a medical mission, now for a Children's hospital. I tried to meet a couple years ago, never did.

[QUOTE=AlMelrose;4165488][URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/14971076-f465-48c9-9a93-34e096323441[/URL]

Been a freshmen for a couple years now and has switched from Northwestern to DePaul, haha. Was raising money to go to Guatamala for a medical mission, now for a Children's hospital. I tried to meet a couple years ago, never did.[/QUOTE]She says she runs cross country at Depaul. I have never seen a collegiate runner that pudgy.

Get that sex.

SDX.

[QUOTE=Looking4692;4164984]Let me know if you need a wingman to help I would be more than willing to keep one of them busy while you work the other.[/QUOTE]Will do! I actually am meeting her blonde friend on Monday for dinner. The girl I was originally talking to is looking for 8 a meet.

I finally took the plunge and joined yesterday.

Guys this is a lot of hard work and you need to dedicate a lot of time and effort.

I received about a dozen responses. A few were staright to the points and wanted to meet "now!

A few others you had to be careful not to offend and play the game to see ifthey are willing to p4 p.

I ran into a couple scammers asking for money for pics / videos.

This was one so stay away: Well shit, I was about to post her link but looks like she has deleted her account.

Found 3 that were ready to p4 p. A 19 year old who is a bit chubby for my taste asked for 250.

A 27 yr old whose pics look good asked for 350 after an hour convo saying she was looking for long term and 1500 a month.

And lastly an Arab gal who asked for $ 400 but hasnt responded since I asked about the menu and length of the visit.

I am still in convos with another 6 or 7 who seem like they reply back slowly or haven't responded since their initial message.

Anyway, I will be back to give details on any that I pull the trigger on.

Questions for you guys:

Why are some girls "Premium Members" ? What does that mean? Are they verified? Are they paying for something extra?

This seems like a ot of work when you can just call an escort and get excactly what you are looking for here. What is the difference I am missing?

You guys say they are non pros but if they are willing to meet you to p4 p that they are exactly that! Hoes, hookers, escorts?

Do you think these girls are more"clean" , less used? I find that hard to believe. They might be getting dicked down more that some pros.

[QUOTE=GoodVibesAll;4165173]Yeah, last year I had to take out a loan to pay off my credit cards because if SA. Got the loan paid off, and now I'm back again. The good thing though, is, I'm smarter and wiser. I stick to what I can afford and that's it. I'll do 3 if it gets me in the door, but only if she is really, really hot. When we meet, I negotiate subsequent dates for 2. I'm a nice guy and my dates tell me that they feel comfortable with me, and I've never had an issue. A lot of times, like when their funds go dry, they start to text 3-4 x a day. I'll tel them I can only do x amount, and they need cash for whatever, and they agree. I also have found that the older women are not only a better bargain, but way better in bed compared to the twentysomethings.

I'm also only planning to be on for one month this time and collect as many digits as I can. Problem with that is if you don't connect right away, it's not likely you ever will.

Back in May, I had a date set up with an ex Maxim model, she had a great body, at least in her pictures. I worked my ass of in the gym, going before work and after. I worked so hard it gave me a hernia, had to take a month off of work. Then she sent me recent pics and wow, nothing like she used to look like. She still owes me money. Lesson learned.[/QUOTE]I have not been a premium member of SA for several months. I did not renew when they implemented the auto renew BS. I think it is important to remember that many of the women on the site have expectations that differ from ours. Many of them, especially the younger ones, joined the site thinking the guys on the site are wealthy, and will take them for dinner at high end places, pay them to be there, and expect nothing in return. In addition, their expectation is that these wealthy men will give them expensive presents, pay for their "spa" days, send them off on exotic trips, all the while paying the rent on their apartment and the lease payment on their car. It is important to remember that most of these women, not all, but most, have a stripper mentality: They want to separate you from your cash as quickly as possible while doing as little as possible.

[QUOTE=BigTen;4167585]I have not been a premium member of SA for several months. I did not renew when they implemented the auto renew BS. I think it is important to remember that many of the women on the site have expectations that differ from ours. Many of them, especially the younger ones, joined the site thinking the guys on the site are wealthy, and will take them for dinner at high end places, pay them to be there, and expect nothing in return. In addition, their expectation is that these wealthy men will give them expensive presents, pay for their "spa" days, send them off on exotic trips, all the while paying the rent on their apartment and the lease payment on their car. It is important to remember that most of these women, not all, but most, have a stripper mentality: They want to separate you from your cash as quickly as possible while doing as little as possible.[/QUOTE]BigTen.

Very well stated comments and pretty much right to the point. One girl told me her requirements were 3500 a month. I said you need to find a stock broker.

[QUOTE=BigTen;4167585]I have not been a premium member of SA for several months. I did not renew when they implemented the auto renew BS. I think it is important to remember that many of the women on the site have expectations that differ from ours. Many of them, especially the younger ones, joined the site thinking the guys on the site are wealthy, and will take them for dinner at high end places, pay them to be there, and expect nothing in return. In addition, their expectation is that these wealthy men will give them expensive presents, pay for their "spa" days, send them off on exotic trips, all the while paying the rent on their apartment and the lease payment on their car. It is important to remember that most of these women, not all, but most, have a stripper mentality: They want to separate you from your cash as quickly as possible while doing as little as possible.[/QUOTE]I've been very active on SA for the last year and a half. Have had the pleasure of being with many dozens of girls from SA, more than I'd care to admit. From one time hook ups to lengthy arrangements, mostly early to mid 20's but as old as 35 too. Not one girl I've spent time with has been as you described. No expectations of spa days, pay for just being there, exotic trips, rent, car. Nothing like that. Every time it's always been a very reasonable ppm, couple hours at my place, and if I liked her I'll repeat at my leisure. Nothing more than that. I didn't ask for anything more and neither did any of the girls.

My point is that while false expectations, gps, etc exist they are the minority, easily flushed out and disregarded. Be direct about what you want and you'll attract the ones that are on the same page. Also don't be a scumbag. I'm drowning in pussy, turning girls away every other day and it's all the complete opposite of what you've described.