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[QUOTE=DurtyDawg;4241274]Quite right, I'm not a lawyer OR a cop, just an informed citizen. And also quite right, re your advice, just a bit more succinct than my version. LOL.
The only way you're going to get into trouble, other than them actually having video, which is an extremely unlikely scenario, is if you open your pie-hole and volunteer information.[/QUOTE]Remember one thing cops lie.
Visited holistic in revere last night for the first time in a while, I put on the short this time and guess it was a mistake because during the table shower and probably 5 times during the massage, the lady repeatedly ask me if it was my first time, even after I told her I had been there before. No HE ending for me. Lot of going in and out of the room and even the my masseuse left and was replaced by another one at 1 point. Very strange experience. The massage quality was excellent though.
I was looking for a massage in CT and decided to try one from my notes, though I don't know if I got it from this group or not, or when. Yun Yu is conveniently located not far from the gate, and is reasonably clean and tidy. My masseuse was a strong Chinese lady, not very young and not very old either. For one hour, she gave me a very good therapeutic massage; clearly she is experienced in that. On the flip, she missed one area of that could have used some work. . 7+. 2.
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If asked if there was any sexual contact I'd act absolutely indignant and embarrass the fuck out of them! "Excuse me? What? What kind of question is that? That's offensive!!Asking me a question like that! You should be ashamed of yourself"! Put THEM on the defensive! Then quickly apologize. "I'm sorry, but that was totally unexpected. Please forgive my reaction".
[/QUOTE]Putting on a show like that seems like asking for trouble. "Methinks he doth protest too much" is what I would be thinking if I heard that rap. Never go on the offensive with your uncle, even if free speech is protected by the constitution.
At most I might act surprised and innocent at the question, but just say "I have had a persistent ache in my shoulder, and that's why I was there. " But as someone else said, "No" is enough, perhaps followed by the question of whether you are being detained, but asking that question is somewhat more suspicious.
[QUOTE=SteveNaive;4242384]Putting on a show like that seems like asking for trouble. "Methinks he doth protest too much" is what I would be thinking if I heard that rap. Never go on the offensive with your uncle, even if free speech is protected by the constitution.
At most I might act surprised and innocent at the question, but just say "I have had a persistent ache in my shoulder, and that's why I was there. " But as someone else said, "No" is enough, perhaps followed by the question of whether you are being detained, but asking that question is somewhat more suspicious.[/QUOTE]There is an excellent set of UTube videos on dealing with this issue. A lawyer explains that it is never a good thing to say anything to the police. You do not have to answer any questions, but I do believe you can be required to show I'd.
Was recently at 32 South. Went to the room I usually go to. After the massage I looked up and the air conditioning vent was at a little angle (normally flush to wall). Only had a second to look if anything was up there, but on quick inspection I didn't see a camera or lens. Once again, didn't get a great look. Given the climate, am I being overly paranoid or is it a valid worry? Just wanted to give heads up too. Something felt off.
[QUOTE=MrBologna;4242707]Was recently at 32 South. Went to the room I usually go to. After the massage I looked up and the air conditioning vent was at a little angle (normally flush to wall). Only had a second to look if anything was up there, but on quick inspection I didn't see a camera or lens. Once again, didn't get a great look. Given the climate, am I being overly paranoid or is it a valid worry? Just wanted to give heads up too. Something felt off.[/QUOTE]Sounds reasonable to me now a days. I'm trying to find non-Asian places now. Haven't found any yet.
[QUOTE=MrBologna;4242707]Was recently at 32 South. Went to the room I usually go to. After the massage I looked up and the air conditioning vent was at a little angle (normally flush to wall). Only had a second to look if anything was up there, but on quick inspection I didn't see a camera or lens. Once again, didn't get a great look. Given the climate, am I being overly paranoid or is it a valid worry? Just wanted to give heads up too. Something felt off.[/QUOTE]Is Ella still there? I haven't been in awhile, but I miss her and her basic service.
Has anybody seen this new mullata girl in Framingham? She starting posting last week. She looks so hot. Any info please?
[URL]https://backpage.com.boston.listcrawler.com/post/32007535/[/URL]
[QUOTE=PadMe5;4243046]Is Ella still there? I haven't been in awhile, but I miss her and her basic service.[/QUOTE]There is no any Ella at South. Angela is still there and runs the show. Looking good for a 60 year-old Korean woman. But her colleague Lucy is gone. She relocated to River, and those who are familiar with Lucy and her not-so-basic service would know what it means for River.
[QUOTE=Member#4063;4242533]There is an excellent set of UTube videos on dealing with this issue. A lawyer explains that it is never a good thing to say anything to the police. You do not have to answer any questions, but I do believe you can be required to show I'd.[/QUOTE]If you're not driving, there's no requirement that you carry ID on your person.
[QUOTE=Jay117;4243452]If you're not driving, there's no requirement that you carry ID on your person.[/QUOTE]You can still be required to provide your name and date of birth or whatever is required in that state. You aren't required to carry an ID anywhere. You also only need to carry while driving if you get stopped for another infraction. Most states can check your license status without you having your license. The only time you have to identify yourself to police it's when they reasonably suspect you of a crime. Massachusetts has no such requirement. However, you can demand to see the ID of a police employee, and they're required to show it to you.
There seems to be a lot of fear in this thread about getting caught. Also several comments about people not being lawyers or cops. First, cops don't know the laws, and they're pretty dumb. However, they will and are allowed to lie to you in order to make you say something. Second, most lawyers know nothing about this area of the law. It's up to everyone here to know the laws where you're dreaming and know pertinent case law.
In most states, it's not illegal for the patron to do something sexual with a masseuse, however it is illegal for the masseuse to do something. They're the ones who are licensed. It is normally illegal to pay for such services. The burden of proof is on the state. Here are some things I do to protect myself.
- Read the prostitution laws in the states where you're dreaming. You may also need to read city statutes.
- Never discuss money.
- Never give money to the provider in close proximity to the sexual act.
- Always leave the tip in sight. I usually just let them grab it rather than ever give it to them.
- Always speak vaguely.
- Let the provider know what you want through touch.
- Never get comfortable at a place.
- Never get comfortable with a person.
- Never go in if there are cops around.
- Always circle the place looking for suspicious vehicles.
- Always use the bathroom first to check back rooms.
- Always sweep your room. Check behind mirrors, shine light into them to make sure they aren't one way, check vents, check clocks, check anything sitting out. Using your phone light can make this take just a few minutes.
- Never talk to police. Ever! Just pretend they don't exist. If you can't, then ask if you're being detained. Start filming immediately.
- Most of all, have fun and relax. If you don't say anything about sexual acts and the masseuse gets so turned on by you that she wants to have some fun, then you're not guilty of any crimes, but she is.
[URL]https://malegislature.gov/Laws/GeneralLaws/PartIV/TitleI/Chapter272/Section8[/URL]
[URL]https://malegislature.gov/Laws/GeneralLaws/PartIV/TitleI/Chapter272/Section53A[/URL]
There is no pertinent legislation about having sex with your masseuse.
Most case law is based on texting and other electronic interactions with some people confessing when confronted. Always remain silent.
[QUOTE=MrBologna;4242707]Was recently at 32 South. Went to the room I usually go to. After the massage I looked up and the air conditioning vent was at a little angle (normally flush to wall). Only had a second to look if anything was up there, but on quick inspection I didn't see a camera or lens. Once again, didn't get a great look. Given the climate, am I being overly paranoid or is it a valid worry? Just wanted to give heads up too. Something felt off.[/QUOTE]Visited my newly-acquired go-to a couple of days ago. She has a cool personality and was laughing her ass off telling me stories how concerned many visitors are -- inspecting the room and asking her about the cameras. But you might be right, as Joseph Heller wrote "just because you are paranoid doesn't mean they aren't after you".
Thanks to all who wrote to give a point of view. All helpful.
FYI, I DID find youtube videos out there helpful. Easy to find, ones that point out how to act if you are a pedestrian, and how to act if you are behind the wheel. As pointed out before, there are some state differences. So be aware of that as you are watching.
All that said, I am feeling better that there are lawsuits cropping up in FL from those who were just there for massage and were videotaped in states of undress. Hopefully they will get a BIG payday, and any future judge will think twice before okaying video surveillance of this kind.
Z.
[QUOTE=TomJeffs;4243577]There seems to be a lot of fear in this thread about getting caught. Also several comments about people not being lawyers or cops. First, cops don't know the laws, and they're pretty dumb. However, they will and are allowed to lie to you in order to make you say something. Second, most lawyers know nothing about this area of the law. It's up to everyone here to know the laws where you're dreaming and know pertinent case law.
In most states, it's not illegal for the patron to do something sexual with a masseuse, however it is illegal for the masseuse to do something. They're the ones who are licensed. It is normally illegal to pay for such services. The burden of proof is on the state. Here are some things I do to protect myself.
- Read the prostitution laws in the states where you're dreaming. You may also need to read city statutes.
- Never discuss money.
- Never give money to the provider in close proximity to the sexual act.
- Always leave the tip in sight. I usually just let them grab it rather than ever give it to them.
- Always speak vaguely.
- Let the provider know what you want through touch.
- Never get comfortable at a place.
- Never get comfortable with a person.
- Never go in if there are cops around.
- Always circle the place looking for suspicious vehicles.
- Always use the bathroom first to check back rooms.
- Always sweep your room. Check behind mirrors, shine light into them to make sure they aren't one way, check vents, check clocks, check anything sitting out. Using your phone light can make this take just a few minutes.
- Never talk to police. Ever! Just pretend they don't exist. If you can't, then ask if you're being detained. Start filming immediately.
- Most of all, have fun and relax. If you don't say anything about sexual acts and the masseuse gets so turned on by you that she wants to have some fun, then you're not guilty of any crimes, but she is.
[URL]https://malegislature.gov/Laws/GeneralLaws/PartIV/TitleI/Chapter272/Section8[/URL]
[URL]https://malegislature.gov/Laws/GeneralLaws/PartIV/TitleI/Chapter272/Section53A[/URL]
There is no pertinent legislation about having sex with your masseuse.
Most case law is based on texting and other electronic interactions with some people confessing when confronted. Always remain silent.[/QUOTE]