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I was just coming here to say I want to fuck a hot yoga instructor.
Imagine the positions?
Imagine if Singaporeans offered video?
[QUOTE=FunctionK;7075669]Asian ELF's new girl Lisa, come from Singapore.(I guess she can speak Chinese and English)
Pics looks good and those Yoga pics should be her as they have the same tattoo. And a bit pricey...
[URL]https://asianelf.com/lisa/[/URL][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Mcsylv;7075445]Are you advising us to go in the Spring because the J girls will be dry in the USA? Because I recall you saying that for a foreigner with little knowledge of Japanese, options are way better here than in Japan proper. In a Japanese soapland, the girls will be older and uglier with worse service than the J girls in LA / NYC. Or are you saying specifically to visit Japan and see the sights while also indulging in oppai bars, don't visit the other sex work stores?[/QUOTE]No, it's the weather. I will never go Japan in December again. It's very cold, very windy, very dry. August Summer is even worse. Nothing you do is enough, you just stay indoors as much as possible (no sightseeing). Flights are also expensive. You get the best weather and cheapest flights in Spring. Fall is second best but overlaps with typhoon season which can really mess up your plans. Lastly, over the past 3 months several shops are now foreigner friendly, a few with native English staff. Things are changing for good.
Yes, you do want to learn Japanese, I saw big improvements between 3 months Japanese vs 2 years. But some on ISG have had an adventure with none. I do consider oppai pubs to be an amazing steal, they don't exist in the US. Along with other fetish clubs, this sums up the value you get:
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?26902-BBFS-Providers-Manhattan&p=7072489&viewfull=1#post7072489[/URL]
At oppai pubs I can make out with 6 girls for $80 to $160, topless with access to everything but pussy. You can drop $1K at a NYC strip club and not even get LFK from 1 girl - at oppai pubs it's 100% guaranteed with 3. At the "must speak Japanese" shops, the average girl is significantly hotter than the jgirls you see in NYC. Luxe otoh has native English staff and is foreigner friendly, but 1 step down. But that's what I'm into, I know a lot of guys try it once and don't care they just want pussy. For pussy, there are still fetish clubs they will probably find a lot of fun. Just a wild example is if you want to be breastfed or have sex with a pregnant woman:
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?26902-BBFS-Providers-Manhattan&p=7070554#post7070554[/URL]
It's not for me but my point is there is something wild for everyone. In another example you get bj previews from 3 girls then pick the girl you want to bang. I liked the shop where 2-3 schoolgirls were blindfolded and you harass them then pick the one you want - full disclosure I had no idea that was really going to happen I thought the cartoon ads were just a concept. No, they blindfolded several petite girls for me.
If you must have pussy it's about $150 to $300 per girl. It's not worth it to fly to Japan just for that discount. But if you are already there, then it's a good value. Not to mention you have a gigantic roster to choose from as long as you carefully research - a few shops are photo accurate (but not most). What I do is mix things around, do a little of everything. I have a few new shops I will try next year and will report back.
If we are just comparing a plain FS bang one after the other, then back home is better. Do it on your lunch break all year round. Here, fs, bb, and video are all openly advertised so you pick what you want and get it. No UTR negotiations even if you can get it cheap in the end. That is what tips things for NYC if you just want to bang and bang in First Class. Hope that makes sense.
Last but not least, I've said before I'd enjoy a trip to Japan even if I was barred from all night time fun. For anyone where this is even half true, that factors into the value. It is an adventure of a lifetime. Doag is there right now and may be interviewing his next wife as we speak:
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?26902-BBFS-Providers-Manhattan&p=7073451&viewfull=1#post7073451[/URL]
I reply with some experiences including how I picked up several cute civilian girls for one night stands in Japan 20 years ago in Roppongi:
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2951357&viewfull=1#post2951357[/URL] 4th paragraph for Roppongi, picking up 3 civilian girls
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?26902-BBFS-Providers-Manhattan&p=7073719&viewfull=1#post7073719[/URL]
I was just a nerdy young guy but somehow I had value in Japan. I met girls for ONS without even trying to, and met girls I dated as well. I even had to turn down several women for various reasons.
I had the adventure of a lifetime. Don't go for just the sex.
[QUOTE=Alien988;7072992]TER is completely unreliable now a days. It's mostly AI generated reviews now. You can tell the fake ones from reviewers who only review asian agencies or who only give 7, 8, or 9's.
Agencies usually have a couple reviews lined up the day a girl arrives so they get to set the standard for 'accurate photos' 'young' etc. You can just do the numbers comparing the asian agency girls so similar levels of independents or other agencies and the asian girls are really over represented.
Finally if they have already gamed TER, I am guessing like in The Thing (1982) there are already imposter's among us on this forum.[/QUOTE]Oh man no doubt this forum had an infestation of shills / promotersand for a while too.
All forums that are active with korgs do. Shills, promoters, phone operators, bookers and girls all read these forums. Many post on here. I assume everything I post is read by everyone in the org structure, down to lackeys who deliver Costco water bottles.
Shills and promoters are kinda like parasites tho. Their misleading info and pumping of girls actively hurt mongers who come to sites like this for accurate and objective (as objective it can be) info.
On other hand, shills and promoters goal is to give girls business. It could be for a variety of reasons, but it's still all about giving business to girls. As opposed to giving correct info, even it means NOT giving business to girls.
Therefore if you ask me if all shills could magically just disappear, it would be a hell of a boon for mongers who look for real, critical reviews. And don't view anything that moves as 8/8 and 8/9.
I'll go even further. People who really think every kgirl is a 8 or 9 without an ulterior motive, don't even need to use forums like this. They could just throw a dart and pick whoever.
Anyone else frustrated with these Japanese / Chinese agencies. Pics are all AI generated and look less and less like them. You can tell it's them but at least 5 points higher in looks with technologies these days. Miss the good old photo shop days. I have to think that half of the reviews on this site are fake. Sure, I could do a better job researching on this site as well as TER but when I'm a time crunch and on the road, I read a couple reviews and take the gamble. Recently all damn misses. I don't write bad reviews because the last time I did, I got banned from an agency. I'd guess it's not hard for them to figure out whose writing reviews. I'm going back to sticking with Korean agencies.
[QUOTE=Kpop1;7075855]Anyone else frustrated with these Japanese / Chinese agencies. Pics are all AI generated and look less and less like them. You can tell it's them but at least 5 points higher in looks with technologies these days. Miss the good old photo shop days. I have to think that half of the reviews on this site are fake. Sure, I could do a better job researching on this site as well as TER but when I'm a time crunch and on the road, I read a couple reviews and take the gamble. Recently all damn misses. I don't write bad reviews because the last time I did, I got banned from an agency. I'd guess it's not hard for them to figure out whose writing reviews. I'm going back to sticking with Korean agencies.[/QUOTE]I know exactly what you mean. The main Chinese / Japanese ones are bad with the pics. I recently saw one from an elf in Tysons and even read some reviews from folks here that seemed promising, when I got there I was severely disappointed. It's my fault too because I saw someone from there months ago and told myself not to trust this agency again but I had forgotten. The girl is nowhere near as young as stated and the pics look nothing like her. The one time this place delivered was with a young girl with blonde hair who was here not too long ago. Besides her, I will mostly be visiting the Korean agencies which aren't perfect either but they're nowhere near as bad.
[QUOTE=Kpop1;7075855]Anyone else frustrated with these Japanese / Chinese agencies. Pics are all AI generated and look less and less like them. You can tell it's them but at least 5 points higher in looks with technologies these days. Miss the good old photo shop days. I have to think that half of the reviews on this site are fake. Sure, I could do a better job researching on this site as well as TER but when I'm a time crunch and on the road, I read a couple reviews and take the gamble. Recently all damn misses. I don't write bad reviews because the last time I did, I got banned from an agency. I'd guess it's not hard for them to figure out whose writing reviews. I'm going back to sticking with Korean agencies.[/QUOTE]
This is a serious problem, I and others have quit the hobby for periods of time over a series of bad experiences. Seeing girls without good research had too many ups and downs. And it is hard to research.
I've long ignored photos unless a reviewer I know says they're real. Reviews are the only solution. When someone posts a review, click their name and see if they've reviewed another girl you've seen and decide how accurate they are. I know two other reviewers who review 10-20 girls a month, they go out of their way to do this because they believe that reviews are the only way to increase the average girl in town. I can't do that many, so what I do is personally read and verify reviews by recognizing the reviewer or matching it with verified reviews. This is the result:
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?31130-Korean-Agency-BB&p=7075664&viewfull=1#post7075664[/URL]
There are several short lists of recommend girls for HYA (hot young Asian) GFE (no bb). Nothing negative in the post, for example I say Sophia is a 40s milf queen that lots of guys love. I just don't mention the other girls below her tier. No one could accuse me or the other main reviewers of being negative. If I don't like a girl, I will do it by PM or tell the booker.
I can vouch for the descriptions of girls as 90% accurate because I saw the girl, or someone I know well described her. I know how accurate their descriptions are because I had a 100% success rate with their recs, the girls were literally better because they don't hype them. Specifically, I was recommended Baby Suger (perfect 10 looks), Baby Evian (arguably a 9), Baby Lizza (a 9) by ResilientJohn. I don't just give out 10's, she is the only 10 out of 90 girls I've rated. When I say 90% accurate, I mean if I say Jira is young and cute 8 out of 8 reviewers after me agreed and I even list them. Maybe 1 guy some day won't like her, that's realistic. The point is reviews and trusted reviewers matter. I myself even gave out a 2024 awards list, highlighting which girls were still working:
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?33105-Hot-Young-Asian-Girls-in-OC&p=7075354&viewfull=1#post7075354[/URL]
It needs to be said that since reviewers know my reviews, it's self-fulfilling that the guys who saw Jira on my description liked her. She is super petite, early 20s, small tits. She is arguably cuter than her photos which are real except photoshop to make her boobs bigger. So I warn prominently in every review she is A/B cup - warnings like these are really important. Without that warning, it would not have been 8 out of 8 happy reviewers, some guy would have complained she looks too young and has no tits:
[URl]https://sdasiangirls.com/index.php/approved-studies/instructors/ms-jira/[/URL]
About being banned for negative reviews, that's the other problem. I don't know this best, but see my thank you to RocketManP: about it.
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?26373-Korean-Agency-BB&p=7073063&viewfull=1#post7073063[/URL]
A year ago, SD's biggest agencies banned users for negative reviews and even said so after appointments, specifically TER. RocketManP investigated this and sent proof to TER admins. TER admins do not fuck around. They deleted 10 years of this agencies reviews, every girl. To this day you cannot find them anymore except as blank stubs:
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?31932-Asian-Providers&p=6705377#post6705377[/URL]
He even put up a permanent link and reminder of the proof so they could not deny it. You can still see it today:
[URL]https://archive.ph/VfFlw[/URL]
3 months and an apology later, they were allowed to work on TER again. I wrote one of their very first reviews for an ATF. It took 5 tries because TER admins still had multiple bans on urls and other keywords I used and had not removed them all even though they gave the green light.
I don't know the solution for you guys East Coast. What I and 3 other power posters do is take precautious in reviews. Mine is I wait a randomly 1-3 days whether the review is good or bad. Theirs is they review so many girls and make an 'approved list' of girls they liked. I have used their list and it is 100% accurate. No need to make a single negative review. I myself don't like to write negative reviews even though I know I should. This is one discussion on on not writing negative reviews at all and just focusing on the positive:
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?34485-Kgirls-Rebrands&p=7003427&viewfull=1#post7003427[/URL]
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?34485-Kgirls-Rebrands&p=7004226&viewfull=1#post7004226[/URL]
It is controversial, everyone says negative reviews need to happen. I agree, I call those people heroes. But it's just hard to do because I always wonder if I'm being too hard on a girl if we just didn't vibe. The logic is sound that I should review her anyways, I'm just saying personally I struggle to do that. So I put my energy into highlighting every good girl I know. Hope these ideas help.
[QUOTE=Rizzler808;7073822]Service: This is where Julia earned her stripes. She certainly is not a newbie and I would say her BBBJ is 8/10 but her sex game is a 9. As a spinner, I don't expect her to have her nose to the stomach as if it were, she'd have a few inches into her actual throat. That said, she was extremely persistent to blow me as long as I needed to. Her sex is a 9 because I genuinely believe I don't think she even knows how wet she gets. It was a combination of her squirting too but literally, after eating her out, it was like the fire hydrant was turned on.
Fucking was going as per usual but while she was riding, she started grinding and I could feel her pussy tightening and boom, my stomach was caked in pussy juice. Absolutely crazy and I haven't had a kgirl squirt like that in while. I went into the black after that and fucked her super hard until I eventually nutted too. Skilled goddess for sure and I will be seeing her real soon just to see how many times I can make her do this....[/QUOTE]Great Review. I am headed to NoVa this weekend and am doing some research. I am so intrigued by the squirting that this may be the way I go. You mentioned $350 for the hour, did this include MSOG, or was it one and done?
[QUOTE=DownloadX;7075979]It is controversial, everyone says negative reviews need to happen. I agree, I call those people heroes. But it's just hard to do because I always wonder if I'm being too hard on a girl if we just didn't vibe. The logic is sound that I should review her anyways, I'm just saying personally I struggle to do that. So I put my energy into highlighting every good girl I know. Hope these ideas help.[/QUOTE]This approved list could work for kgirls here but not jgirls. Kgirls are a lot more popular here, staying longer. The average jgirl lasts a week or less and the jgirls we get are mainly tier 2 or 3 left overs from NY, once in a while, tier 1 but not the norm. But I'll try PM here if I don't like a girl or just say I didn't add any new approved girls to the list (if my reviews are worth anything here, don't really know).
[QUOTE=Monthehunt;7076390]This approved list could work for kgirls here but not jgirls. Kgirls are a lot more popular here, staying longer. The average jgirl lasts a week or less and the jgirls we get are mainly tier 2 or 3 left overs from NY, once in a while, tier 1 but not the norm. But I'll try PM here if I don't like a girl or just say I didn't add any new approved girls to the list (if my reviews are worth anything here, don't really know).[/QUOTE]I feel like pound for pound, the top DC girls are also the top NYC girls, there's not a difference. Elsa and Etsuko being the recent examples, when they went to NYC I took a look at the selection and they still shit on the competition in their shops. Then going back a few months, there was Noah and one other girl here at the same time, both of them were top and in NYC also top.
I think it's more that there's a greater quantity of Elsa-type girls in NYC, not that Elsa types exist up there and not down in DC.
[QUOTE=Monthehunt;7076390]This approved list could work for kgirls here but not jgirls. Kgirls are a lot more popular here, staying longer. The average jgirl lasts a week or less and the jgirls we get are mainly tier 2 or 3 left overs from NY, once in a while, tier 1 but not the norm. But I'll try PM here if I don't like a girl or just say I didn't add any new approved girls to the list (if my reviews are worth anything here, don't really know).[/QUOTE]You're absolutely right on that. Jgirls and kgirls are different due to their tours. It's one reason kgirls have to be professional and mask on for service. But, reviews matter and arguably moreso in this case. "Not for me" is the most negative I go for, I'm soft.
[QUOTE=Mcsylv;7076429]I think it's more that there's a greater quantity of Elsa-type girls in NYC, not that Elsa types exist up athere and not down in DC.[/QUOTE]There is a perfect solution for that, but you won't like it. I will tell you about it next Summer after confirming it works.
[QUOTE=CommandF;7067175]Probably the most disappointing and infuriating experience in some time. I ponied up for a session with Mana but from start to finish what a shit show.
Their website says PSE and I confirmed with the booker that PSE was the pricing listed. There was no mention of upcharge or what have you. So I brought the donation for 45 plus a little extra if I wanted to tip but when I get there, the booker sends me to a completely different door and a staunch white woman with a crying baby opens the door and asks me what I want. I told her it's the wrong door and I ask the booker, what's going on. Finally get to the right door and then boom, Mana says BBFS is $200 extra. WTF. Now I'm confused on if Mana is trying to swindle me or the booker is just bad at their job. Turns out it's the latter and I had to leave poor Mana feeling like shit because I left and the booker texts me mid drive back that I can Zelle them.
Are y'all really giving your Zelle information to a booker whose bank account you're now linked to??
Afterward they said offered to give me a discount to still write a positive review on Mana. Which now makes me think every glowing review of JB is BS.
Let me be clear, Mana looked fantastic and I would've gladly seen her. But now knowing that JB takes Zelle's, is making noise in their hotel to disturb other guests and attract attention. It's literally the opposite of being discreet. Avoid if these red flags resonate with you as well.
Thanks for entertaining my rambling of this inconvenient ordeal.[/QUOTE]I'm curious as to what did JB value your honesty / integrity and responsibility to other brothers, in greenbacks.
Was it at least more than 40 bucks? I bet it was below a hunnid.
It's so disgusting when agencies or any sellers do this shit. Oh here is a bribe for you to lie to others that your experience was good.
Makes me so sick. If it was up to me I'd air them out every place I could. And if they're on ter I'd tell ter too. They usually don't like that shit.
Bribing mongers with pussy and / or money to write false reviews is pretty vile and should be heavily criticized. These agencies view mongers as dirty atm machines.
[QUOTE=Kpop1;7075855]Anyone else frustrated with these Japanese / Chinese agencies. Pics are all AI generated and look less and less like them. You can tell it's them but at least 5 points higher in looks with technologies these days. Miss the good old photo shop days. I have to think that half of the reviews on this site are fake. Sure, I could do a better job researching on this site as well as TER but when I'm a time crunch and on the road, I read a couple reviews and take the gamble. Recently all damn misses. I don't write bad reviews because the last time I did, I got banned from an agency. I'd guess it's not hard for them to figure out whose writing reviews. I'm going back to sticking with Korean agencies.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=RyeBread;7075913]I know exactly what you mean. The main Chinese / Japanese ones are bad with the pics. I recently saw one from an elf in Tysons and even read some reviews from folks here that seemed promising, when I got there I was severely disappointed. It's my fault too because I saw someone from there months ago and told myself not to trust this agency again but I had forgotten. The girl is nowhere near as young as stated and the pics look nothing like her. The one time this place delivered was with a young girl with blonde hair who was here not too long ago. Besides her, I will mostly be visiting the Korean agencies which aren't perfect either but they're nowhere near as bad.[/QUOTE]How are k orgs any better? K girls are notorious for using either heavily edited pictures that are 5-10 years old, or fake pics altogether. Often times they aren't even the same skin tone as the pics they use. Some j girls will use fake pictures or P.S. To a degree, but it's nowhere near as often as k girls. At least with j girls you are getting a more accurate representation of what they look like compared to k girls, where it's a game of which pic most closely resembles what she looks like in the dark if you squint hard enough. I don't support the use of fake pictures from either group, but it's far more common from k girls. Same goes for age, most k girls are 30's-40's, and yet every agency will list them as 22-25. I've seen a couple j girls who are much older than advertised, but it's rare.
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[QUOTE=DownloadX;7075979]I don't know the solution for you guys East Coast. What I and 3 other power posters do is take precautious in reviews. Mine is I wait a randomly 1-3 days whether the review is good or bad. Theirs is they review so many girls and make an 'approved list' of girls they liked. I have used their list and it is 100% accurate. No need to make a single negative review. I myself don't like to write negative reviews even though I know I should. This is one discussion on on not writing negative reviews at all and just focusing on the positive:
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?34485-Kgirls-Rebrands&p=7003427&viewfull=1#post7003427[/URL]
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?34485-Kgirls-Rebrands&p=7004226&viewfull=1#post7004226[/URL]
[/QUOTE]I might be alone on this, but I do not think shill / fake reviews are as bad as people make them out to be. Yeah some reviews are blatantly fake. Like when a k girl is reported to have "soft MM's" when they feel like fucking rocks, and unless you're cupping them with the softest touch humanly possible, there's no way you don't feel how hard those things are. But overall, I think it's important to remember that everyone has different tastes and expectations on what they're looking for. There was j girl here a few months ago that had a great review from an active member here. Another member saw her and had the complete opposite experience. It doesn't mean the first guy is a shill, it just means that she met his expectations, but not the second guy. A guy with a shrimp dick could report that he took a girl to pound town, and then another guy with a bigger dick could get nothing but blocking and complaints. One of the hottest girls I've seen in this hobby has a 7. 85 appearance score on TER. She's a solid 9, but only 2 other guys agreed with me. Another example, I saw a j girl on the recommendation of another member here. I had a great time and thought she was pretty. Her latest review said she wasn't pretty and looked 30-40 years old. Different tastes, different expectations.
Unless you're a Chad who just hits it off with every girl he meets, every session has the potential to be YMMV. There's so many examples of this, even with super popular girls, and even between active guys on this forum.
A girl that's hot to one guy or even a lot of guys might not be hot to another. The same goes for service. Good service to one guy might be below average to another. I'm in the camp of age / looks service. If I wanted to fuck average looking or old women, I'd just go to an AMP for half the cost and drive time. On top of being young / hot, as long as she has a good attitude and willingness to please, I'm happy. In my TER reviews I do try to give details from start to finish about my session, but the details are more for the people reading. I can appreciate good service when I see it, but that's just not my priority when going into sessions.
I don't see k girls unless I'm in the mood for high level service that day. Most k girls are not that attractive, and they are never young. The ones I do find attractive, it's more of I find them attractive compared to other k girls that come through the area rather than overall. Even the ones reported to be young on this forum never are. But it just goes back to the expectations. A girl will be reported to be mid 20's, I walk through the door and she has crows feet. I've never met a k girl in the same age group as me. My expectations of a "mid-late 20's" seems to be different from the average guy who's probably in his 40's or 50's.
Everyone is going to take losses in this hobby. I've taken 3 of them as I mentioned earlier. One of them I saw based on recommendations on this forum from reputable guys. Had a completely different opinion than what was said here. On TER I was the only guy to give her a 6 in both looks and service and even that was being very generous. I just chalked it up to being my turn to getting a dud. Nobody wants a disappointing session, especially at these prices, but that's just apart of the game. Girls like Etsuko who are young, super hot, great attitude, smiles, and great service who can appeal to both the looks and service camps are unicorns.
Tall, Slender I've is starting at Kstar from tomorrow 10/25.
[URL]https://kstarnova.com/models/ive/[/URL]
[QUOTE=RocketManP;7076473]I'm curious as to what did JB value your honesty / integrity and responsibility to other brothers, in greenbacks.
Was it at least more than 40 bucks? I bet it was below a hunnid.
It's so disgusting when agencies or any sellers do this shit. Oh here is a bribe for you to lie to others that your experience was good.
Makes me so sick. If it was up to me I'd air them out every place I could. And if they're on ter I'd tell ter too. They usually don't like that shit.
Bribing mongers with pussy and / or money to write false reviews is pretty vile and should be heavily criticized. These agencies view mongers as dirty atm machines.[/QUOTE]Not even $40. It was a $20 discount for my next vision since the one I tried to have went to shit.
To be fair, any takes on Mana being busty and pretty, I can agree with wholeheartedly. I didn't se her naked but she was a looker.
What I didn't like was the terrible service in getting me to the door and thinking back, I think I let some mongers gaslight me into thinking I didn't ask the right questions. I asked how much PSE / no condom service was and they said $300 for the 45 minutes. Only after that it was Mana who informed me of the upcharge.
If that wasn't annoying, the lack of apology for the mishap would've been sufficient. That's when they asked me if I could leave Mana a nice review and a promise to shave $20 off the next visit.
Tbh, I would've left Mana a comprehensive review either way if I had seen her for the time I wanted to spend. It just seems stupid and you're right. Just from that interaction, I'm doubting about how "great" Joyful bay is.
I deleted the texts in anger so I wouldn't be tempted to book them again but I might entertain the thought if I can provide proof that they are indeed buying their raving reviews.
FYI.
New Summer at DMVG starting today.
[URL]https://www.dmvgirlsva.com/copy-of-model-page-julia[/URL]
[URL]https://www.theeroticreview.com/reviews/show.asp?id=398404[/URL]
When we were constantly complaining about AsianELF's high prices, they brought another 320 girl Gigi, LOL. Their new lineup looks quite interesting:
450 Yoga Instructor Lisa.
360 Faye.
320 Gigi and Emma.
[QUOTE=OneNaughtyBear;7076822]How are k orgs any better? K girls are notorious for using either heavily edited pictures that are 5-10 years old, or fake pics altogether. Often times they aren't even the same skin tone as the pics they use. Some j girls will use fake pictures or P.S. To a degree, but it's nowhere near as often as k girls. At least with j girls you are getting a more accurate representation of what they look like compared to k girls, where it's a game of which pic most closely resembles what she looks like in the dark if you squint hard enough. I don't support the use of fake pictures from either group, but it's far more common from k girls. Same goes for age, most k girls are 30's-40's, and yet every agency will list them as 22-25. I've seen a couple j girls who are much older than advertised, but it's rare.
I might be alone on this, but I do not think shill / fake reviews are as bad as people make them out to be. Yeah some reviews are blatantly fake. Like when a k girl is reported to have "soft MM's" when they feel like fucking rocks, and unless you're cupping them with the softest touch humanly possible, there's no way you don't feel how hard those things are. But overall, I think it's important to remember that everyone has different tastes and expectations on what they're looking for. There was j girl here a few months ago that had a great review from an active member here. Another member saw her and had the complete opposite experience. It doesn't mean the first guy is a shill, it just means that she met his expectations, but not the second guy. A guy with a shrimp dick could report that he took a girl to pound town, and then another guy with a bigger dick could get nothing but blocking and complaints. One of the hottest girls I've seen in this hobby has a 7. 85 appearance score on TER. She's a solid 9, but only 2 other guys agreed with me. Another example, I saw a j girl on the recommendation of another member here. I had a great time and thought she was pretty. Her latest review said she wasn't pretty and looked 30-40 years old. Different tastes, different expectations.
Unless you're a Chad who just hits it off with every girl he meets, every session has the potential to be YMMV. There's so many examples of this, even with super popular girls, and even between active guys on this forum.
A girl that's hot to one guy or even a lot of guys might not be hot to another. The same goes for service. Good service to one guy might be below average to another. I'm in the camp of age / looks service. If I wanted to fuck average looking or old women, I'd just go to an AMP for half the cost and drive time. On top of being young / hot, as long as she has a good attitude and willingness to please, I'm happy. In my TER reviews I do try to give details from start to finish about my session, but the details are more for the people reading. I can appreciate good service when I see it, but that's just not my priority when going into sessions.
I don't see k girls unless I'm in the mood for high level service that day. Most k girls are not that attractive, and they are never young. The ones I do find attractive, it's more of I find them attractive compared to other k girls that come through the area rather than overall. Even the ones reported to be young on this forum never are. But it just goes back to the expectations. A girl will be reported to be mid 20's, I walk through the door and she has crows feet. I've never met a k girl in the same age group as me. My expectations of a "mid-late 20's" seems to be different from the average guy who's probably in his 40's or 50's.
Everyone is going to take losses in this hobby. I've taken 3 of them as I mentioned earlier. One of them I saw based on recommendations on this forum from reputable guys. Had a completely different opinion than what was said here. On TER I was the only guy to give her a 6 in both looks and service and even that was being very generous. I just chalked it up to being my turn to getting a dud. Nobody wants a disappointing session, especially at these prices, but that's just apart of the game. Girls like Etsuko who are young, super hot, great attitude, smiles, and great service who can appeal to both the looks and service camps are unicorns.[/QUOTE]Bro, I agree with you. J-girls are known for posting accurate photos, while K-girls often don't. Although their service is usually great, they lack freshness, and their age can be an issue. I don't mean to criticize anyone, but the most outrageous thing I've encountered was when I booked a K-girl and, upon entering, thought I had the wrong room because I was greeted by someone who looked really old. I was still under 30 at the time, and seeing a K-girl who was around 45 years old. Yet, her ad photos made her look like she was 25.
Moreover, the experience and reviews are really a case of YMMV. As I mentioned in my earlier posts, everyone wants something different from a girl, and these girls are not machines. They may react and provide different services based on the client's age, appearance, or even ethnicity, so you can't generalize in many situations. That's also why there are so many girls available in the market for you to choose from. I rarely give low scores to a girl. First, because I have a certain level of expectation, and second, I make sure to take care of my hygiene and appearance. I also learn Japanese and Korean to improve communication. I don't want to argue too much with everyone, but I believe understanding the pros and cons of K-girls, J-girls, and C-girls, and knowing what you're looking for, can help you get the most out of your money.
I've been to several so-called Japanese shops in NYC through NOVA and only met ugly Chinese girls. These are nothing but fucking trickery groups. Also one of their girls told me a middle-aged white real-estate guy is running these groups with Chinese mamasans as his puppets. Be very careful!
[QUOTE=FunctionK;7077435]Bro, I agree with you. J-girls are known for posting accurate photos, while K-girls often don't. Although their service is usually great, they lack freshness, and their age can be an issue. I don't mean to criticize anyone, but the most outrageous thing I've encountered was when I booked a K-girl and, upon entering, thought I had the wrong room because I was greeted by someone who looked really old. I was still under 30 at the time, and seeing a K-girl who was around 45 years old. Yet, her ad photos made her look like she was 25.
Moreover, the experience and reviews are really a case of YMMV. As I mentioned in my earlier posts, everyone wants something different from a girl, and these girls are not machines. They may react and provide different services based on the client's age, appearance, or even ethnicity, so you can't generalize in many situations. That's also why there are so many girls available in the market for you to choose from. I rarely give low scores to a girl. First, because I have a certain level of expectation, and second, I make sure to take care of my hygiene and appearance. I also learn Japanese and Korean to improve communication. I don't want to argue too much with everyone, but I believe understanding the pros and cons of K-girls, J-girls, and C-girls, and knowing what you're looking for, can help you get the most out of your money.[/QUOTE]
Did anyone see this girl? Real Pics? Young C girl? Real G cups?
New girl Lisa at AE looks like she's mixed. I cannot tell if the glam shots and the yoga shots are the same girl.
FYI.
Secrete is out that there is rare duo offering at DS with Ciel and Suzie.
[URL]https://www.discreetstory.com/ciel[/URL]
Arisa, her third pic looks familiar to me. I think she's been here before, any intel?
Teri, looks like a new girl, first time seeing her pics.
[QUOTE=FoxIndc;7077600]Did anyone see this girl? Real Pics? Young C girl? Real G cups?[/QUOTE]Pics are of a vietnamese girl duyenn. Hipp on instagram, so I doubt that's her. Curious as well though.
[QUOTE=FoxIndc;7077600]Did anyone see this girl? Real Pics? Young C girl? Real G cups?[/QUOTE]I'm trying to, but JB doesn't seem to be operating today.
[QUOTE=LocalCustomer;7077868]I'm trying to, but JB doesn't seem to be operating today.[/QUOTE]Try them on WeChat. That's all I use with them.
[QUOTE=SaintPolycarp;7077592]I've been to several so-called Japanese shops in NYC through NOVA and only met ugly Chinese girls. These are nothing but fucking trickery groups. Also one of their girls told me a middle-aged white real-estate guy is running these groups with Chinese mamasans as his puppets. Be very careful![/QUOTE]As far as I know, in high-traffic cities like NYC, Seattle, and LA, there are C-orgs that exclusively cater to C clients. There, you can find high-quality C girls who are young, beautiful, and provide excellent service.
I'm not sure which so-called Japanese shops you're referring to, whether it's NYCSE, RS8, PPC or other shops. As far as I know, some of the high-quality C girls from C-orgs occasionally go to these Japanese shops, like Maria, who worked at NYCSE several months ago, and Bonnie, who is currently at PPC. Can you tell me the names of the "ugly" C girls you met? I can search for more information about them on other forums.
In my opinion, non-C community's C girls are not much different from K-girls on the East Coast, except that C-girls' services are not as consistent as those of K-girls. I wonder if anyone still remembers C-girl Judy. She wasn't originally planning to come to DMV area, but due to irregular menstruation, she missed the schedule with the C-org in California, so she ended up temporarily changed her plan and came here. And she became the most popular girl in the DMV area during that period.
[QUOTE=BushBaby;7077804]New girl Lisa at AE looks like she's mixed. I cannot tell if the glam shots and the yoga shots are the same girl.[/QUOTE]Same girl. They have same tattoo on their back.
[QUOTE=Kpop1;7075855]Anyone else frustrated with these Japanese / Chinese agencies. Pics are all AI generated and look less and less like them. You can tell it's them but at least 5 points higher in looks with technologies these days. Miss the good old photo shop days. I have to think that half of the reviews on this site are fake. Sure, I could do a better job researching on this site as well as TER but when I'm a time crunch and on the road, I read a couple reviews and take the gamble. Recently all damn misses. I don't write bad reviews because the last time I did, I got banned from an agency. I'd guess it's not hard for them to figure out whose writing reviews. I'm going back to sticking with Korean agencies.[/QUOTE]I would also like to add that most Jap / Chinese providers look like they just woke up, very minimal makeup if any, used condoms in the trash where everyone can see, dirty sink, suitcase out for everyone to see, place smells like fried eggs. Probably a bunch more I'm missing. Bottom line though Korean providers may be older at least they are more put together.
[QUOTE=Kpop1;7078015]I would also like to add that most Jap / Chinese providers look like they just woke up, very minimal makeup if any, used condoms in the trash where everyone can see, dirty sink, suitcase out for everyone to see, place smells like fried eggs. Probably a bunch more I'm missing. Bottom line though Korean providers may be older at least they are more put together.[/QUOTE]Very well said. Totally agree.
[QUOTE=DMVAverageJoe;7077292]FYI.
New Summer at DMVG starting today.
[URL]https://www.dmvgirlsva.com/copy-of-model-page-julia[/URL]
[URL]https://www.theeroticreview.com/reviews/show.asp?id=398404[/URL][/QUOTE]Appreciate you DMV! These girls come and go so quickly that there isn't enough time to try them all. But damn do I try anyways.
[QUOTE=MountainLover;7076308]Great Review. I am headed to NoVa this weekend and am doing some research. I am so intrigued by the squirting that this may be the way I go. You mentioned $350 for the hour, did this include MSOG, or was it one and done?[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.dmvgirlsva.com/model-page-rina[/URL]
Just saw her and $350 was a go for the hourly rate. Msog was given but not negotiated prior so I tipped her the standard rate plus a little more to make sure my "bill" was covered.
The reviews of her were accurate in that she's a shorter, tanner version, than what is portrayed online. Age wise per reports seems to be accurate as well. Not a granny by any means but she is in her 30's but looks great and the squirting is magnificent. Definitely not a water trick but she should hydrate after I whipped her g spot into shape.
BBBJ was good but fucking her hard and fast (per her request when I asked if she preferred slow or fast) needs to be followed promptly with some finger blasting to make the water show really pop.
She has towels on standby to make sure the sheets stay clean and good on her because it was nuts. Amazing volume and extra slick soon after for follow on back shots. There wasn't too much mention of her ass but tbh, her ass in doggy style is perfect for a spinner. Usually spinners are bone thin and it's all tailbone but not her. Decent cushion for the pushing and it's all gravy. Too bad her last day is coming up but I'm thankful I got to slide while she was in house.
[QUOTE=DMVAverageJoe;7077292]FYI. New Summer at DMVG starting today.
[URL]https://www.dmvgirlsva.com/copy-of-model-page-julia[/URL]
[URL]https://www.theeroticreview.com/reviews/show.asp?id=398404[/URL][/QUOTE]Looks like Summer didn't like DMVG and switch to AG.[URL]https://asiangem.site/bbs/board.php?bo_table=free&wr_id=190[/URL]
[QUOTE=Castile;7077864]Pics are of a vietnamese girl duyenn. Hipp on instagram, so I doubt that's her. Curious as well though.[/QUOTE]Can confirmed, I did a search and the images belongs to a Vietnamese onlyfans girl. I called booker out on it. Booker says they both look similar.
[QUOTE=DMVAverageJoe;7078257]Looks like Summer didn't like DMVG and switch to AG.[URL]https://asiangem.site/bbs/board.php?bo_table=free&wr_id=190[/URL][/QUOTE]It has to be the roommate thing. It maybe also why momo / Jane went to asianelf. I won't say the names, but one k provider told me she wasn't a fan of a j provider. They don't talk to each other. Only talking to johns.
Got a chance today to check out this new Yoga girl Lisa. Made the appt for early afternoon. When she opened the door, I liked what was in front of me. Young and cute little spinner. Pictures on their website are accurate. Thumbs up. And she speaks good English. She told me she is from Singapore but I suspect she has a hint of Vietnamese (she also can speak Mandarin, A Singaporean who is Vietnamese and Chinese mixed?) in her English accent. Who cares anyway, I am here for a good time with her.
Went to the bedroom and off with the clothes and handed the donation. Then off to the bathroom for the mouthwash and shower. Not much happened during the shower period where she cleaned me thoroughly.
Finally head to the bed where she told me to lie flat on my chest. She started her routine, kissing and lightly stroking my butt cheeks and jewels. By the time I flipped over, I was hard as a rock. She continued blowing me using her mouth and hand technique. Felt good at first, then she got a bit more aggressive. Time to lay her down and feast on that clean-shaven pussy. She seems to like it a lot when I dato her as well. She was moaning and enjoying every minute of it. She was super wet. Time to put the cover on and off we went thru multiple positions. Mish, doggie, pile drive, and wheelbarrow. This girl enjoys it and is very energetic. Blew my first load and off to the shower for a quick rinse. Then back to bed, where she started her kissing routine again. Dick became hard in no time and on with the cover for round 2. This time I let her ride me cowgirl. She was riding me hard. And I mean HARD. Quickly flipped her over and pounded her mish with her legs spread wide open. All the years of Yoga training, make her so flexible. Blasted my second load and I was spent.
She complimented me for being a strong man and being able to offload twice. Off to the shower again and out the door right about the 60-minute mark. Overall I am very satisfied with her services and she is definitely MCOT. May repeat if can not see Suzie or other better choices.
[QUOTE=Monthehunt;7078305]It has to be the roommate thing. It maybe also why momo / Jane went to asianelf. I won't say the names, but one k provider told me she wasn't a fan of a j provider. They don't talk to each other. Only talking to johns.[/QUOTE]Story time. One girl told me she punched her roommate. Her roommate broke the washing machine but told boss it was other girl, so she had to pay. They fought over other things too and she got locked out at one point. I was shocked to hear since I had a good time with her roommate before, who had wonderful torpedo tits I would motorboat. So I booked another appointment right away and made them cock sisters. Best I could do.
Just today another girl told me her roommate hates her. Since the girl I'm seeing is a 10, every customer is a regular and bringing her gifts. Her snacks and cakes and gifts piled up on the kitchen counter. Her roommate pushed everything off. LOL.
And yes I simped and brought something for her too. I could bang her the rest of my life, there's just no other girl as good looking as her in my last 20 years of this hobby. I may have even started a hot debate a while back saying Elsa was a 9. Well, this was the 10.
I hear there is a new jgirl that shows promise at Firefox Club. Tits.
[QUOTE=DownloadX;7075979]This is a serious problem, I and others have quit the hobby for periods of time over a series of bad experiences. Seeing girls without good research had too many ups and downs. And it is hard to research.
I've long ignored photos unless a reviewer I know says they're real. Reviews are the only solution. When someone posts a review, click their name and see if they've reviewed another girl you've seen and decide how accurate they are. I know two other reviewers who review 10-20 girls a month, they go out of their way to do this because they believe that reviews are the only way to increase the average girl in town. I can't do that many, so what I do is personally read and verify reviews by recognizing the reviewer or matching it with verified reviews. This is the result:
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?31130-Korean-Agency-BB&p=7075664&viewfull=1#post7075664[/URL]
There are several short lists of recommend girls for HYA (hot young Asian) GFE (no bb). Nothing negative in the post, for example I say Sophia is a 40s milf queen that lots of guys love. I just don't mention the other girls below her tier. No one could accuse me or the other main reviewers of being negative. If I don't like a girl, I will do it by PM or tell the booker.
I can vouch for the descriptions of girls as 90% accurate because I saw the girl, or someone I know well described her. I know how accurate their descriptions are because I had a 100% success rate with their recs, the girls were literally better because they don't hype them. Specifically, I was recommended Baby Suger (perfect 10 looks), Baby Evian (arguably a 9), Baby Lizza (a 9) by ResilientJohn. I don't just give out 10's, she is the only 10 out of 90 girls I've rated. When I say 90% accurate, I mean if I say Jira is young and cute 8 out of 8 reviewers after me agreed and I even list them. Maybe 1 guy some day won't like her, that's realistic. The point is reviews and trusted reviewers matter. I myself even gave out a 2024 awards list, highlighting which girls were still working:
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?33105-Hot-Young-Asian-Girls-in-OC&p=7075354&viewfull=1#post7075354[/URL]
It needs to be said that since reviewers know my reviews, it's self-fulfilling that the guys who saw Jira on my description liked her. She is super petite, early 20s, small tits. She is arguably cuter than her photos which are real except photoshop to make her boobs bigger. So I warn prominently in every review she is A/B cup - warnings like these are really important. Without that warning, it would not have been 8 out of 8 happy reviewers, some guy would have complained she looks too young and has no tits:
[URl]https://sdasiangirls.com/index.php/approved-studies/instructors/ms-jira/[/URL]
About being banned for negative reviews, that's the other problem. I don't know this best, but see my thank you to RocketManP: about it.
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?26373-Korean-Agency-BB&p=7073063&viewfull=1#post7073063[/URL]
A year ago, SD's biggest agencies banned users for negative reviews and even said so after appointments, specifically TER. RocketManP investigated this and sent proof to TER admins. TER admins do not fuck around. They deleted 10 years of this agencies reviews, every girl. To this day you cannot find them anymore except as blank stubs:
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?31932-Asian-Providers&p=6705377#post6705377[/URL]
He even put up a permanent link and reminder of the proof so they could not deny it. You can still see it today:
[URL]https://archive.ph/VfFlw[/URL]
3 months and an apology later, they were allowed to work on TER again. I wrote one of their very first reviews for an ATF. It took 5 tries because TER admins still had multiple bans on urls and other keywords I used and had not removed them all even though they gave the green light.
I don't know the solution for you guys East Coast. What I and 3 other power posters do is take precautious in reviews. Mine is I wait a randomly 1-3 days whether the review is good or bad. Theirs is they review so many girls and make an 'approved list' of girls they liked. I have used their list and it is 100% accurate. No need to make a single negative review. I myself don't like to write negative reviews even though I know I should. This is one discussion on on not writing negative reviews at all and just focusing on the positive:
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?34485-Kgirls-Rebrands&p=7003427&viewfull=1#post7003427[/URL]
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?34485-Kgirls-Rebrands&p=7004226&viewfull=1#post7004226[/URL]
It is controversial, everyone says negative reviews need to happen. I agree, I call those people heroes. But it's just hard to do because I always wonder if I'm being too hard on a girl if we just didn't vibe. The logic is sound that I should review her anyways, I'm just saying personally I struggle to do that. So I put my energy into highlighting every good girl I know. Hope these ideas help.[/QUOTE]Small correction. I didn't send anything to TER admins. I made a thread on there with the proof archived for everyone to see, and that's that.
I don't think I should get much credit. I just posted what someone else posted here, after archiving, on ter and I guess admin saw it and decided to put their foot down. In fact, I didn't even expect that to happen.
Then the sdag shills came out against me. The org even made a very short-lived offshoot site named "blue rocket charter". I was flattered at them naming it after me and they still keep paying for the domain LOL.
Oh and also AFAIK no apology was issued to anyone. Whatever TER and SDAG agreed on, I didn't see a single apology addressed to users who were bullied.
Who is the girl that you gave a 10 too?
[QUOTE=DownloadX;7078564]Story time. One girl told me she punched her roommate. Her roommate broke the washing machine but told boss it was other girl, so she had to pay. They fought over other things too and she got locked out at one point. I was shocked to hear since I had a good time with her roommate before, who had wonderful torpedo tits I would motorboat. So I booked another appointment right away and made them cock sisters. Best I could do.
Just today another girl told me her roommate hates her. Since the girl I'm seeing is a 10, every customer is a regular and bringing her gifts. Her snacks and cakes and gifts piled up on the kitchen counter. Her roommate pushed everything off. LOL.
And yes I simped and brought something for her too. I could bang her the rest of my life, there's just no other girl as good looking as her in my last 20 years of this hobby. I may have even started a hot debate a while back saying Elsa was a 9. Well, this was the 10.
I hear there is a new jgirl that shows promise at Firefox Club. Tits.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=DownloadX;7078564]Story time. One girl told me she punched her roommate. Her roommate broke the washing machine but told boss it was other girl, so she had to pay. They fought over other things too and she got locked out at one point. I was shocked to hear since I had a good time with her roommate before, who had wonderful torpedo tits I would motorboat. So I booked another appointment right away and made them cock sisters. Best I could do.
Just today another girl told me her roommate hates her. Since the girl I'm seeing is a 10, every customer is a regular and bringing her gifts. Her snacks and cakes and gifts piled up on the kitchen counter. Her roommate pushed everything off. LOL.
And yes I simped and brought something for her too. I could bang her the rest of my life, there's just no other girl as good looking as her in my last 20 years of this hobby. I may have even started a hot debate a while back saying Elsa was a 9. Well, this was the 10.
I hear there is a new jgirl that shows promise at Firefox Club. Tits.[/QUOTE]There was a time in my life where I wished I lived in a fantasy world, so I could go on an adventure. Mongering is the closest thing to that. Always stories to tell, but we can only tell it to each other and not the reglar world. Fun memories, good or bad, its part of the journey.
[QUOTE=Tomk2323;7078610]Who is the girl that you gave a 10 too?[/QUOTE]She looks different every time. Last visit she looked even better than her ads, but rather than cute like the ads she is usually gothic lolita style in person. It is a wild look with a full back yakuza tattoo. You're better off not knowing. She and Baby Evian I don't recommend to others because most guys don't vibe. I specifically warn guys that she is maximum looks but not full service and not normal, so many guys don't get along or make any connection.
If you do make it to OC, I have 10 recs.
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?31130-Korean-Agency-BB&p=7075664&viewfull=1#post7075664[/URL]
In OC and LA 'Baby' is put in front of girls who are on the younger side, usually 20-29. So I put in this caveat:
[I]All are very cute. One or two may ignore you apart from sex, but they are very cute so you might not even care.[/I]
I only care about looks, so I'm in the don't care category. During the home stretch she's free to pull out her phone and text, I don't even care anymore. But lots of guys who care about dfk and sloppy bbbj are going to be disappointed. So for that we clearly label girls as either HYA (Hot Young Asian), MIILF (Mother I'd like to Film), and trash (turn round and scoot home).