Sugarbabies?

[QUOTE=Ginzo666;6057896]GPS is more of a bubble than BTC at its peak.[/QUOTE]You may think you know what the purpose of the site is but the site may have a different idea. Decatur21 is correct. Any terminology that hints at escorting or pay for play, can get you banned. You seem new. It can help to listen to people who have been there before. Seeking is trying to reposition itself as a premium dating site.

Can you share a link or profile name? Sometimes, POT's will ask an outrageous amount because they found your approach or your profile unappealing. Of course, other time it is outrageous GPS.

BAM.

[QUOTE=BamBam;6058842]You may think you know what the purpose of the site is but the site may have a different idea. Decatur21 is correct. Any terminology that hints at escorting or pay for play, can get you banned. You seem new. It can help to listen to people who have been there before. Seeking is trying to reposition itself as a premium dating site.

Can you share a link or profile name? Sometimes, POT's will ask an outrageous amount because they found your approach or your profile unappealing. Of course, other time it is outrageous GPS..[/QUOTE]Listen to BAM. He is the SB guru in this board.

[QUOTE=BamBam;6058842]Seeking is trying to reposition itself as a premium dating site.[/QUOTE]And OF tried to get out of the adult content business.

[QUOTE=Ginzo666;6057896]GPS is more of a bubble than BTC at its peak.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Ginzo666;6058309]It's awesome to get banned for using the site for what it's made for.[/QUOTE]Good thing they aren't hookers. And the hooker? She won't be banned. Just remember. They're "POT's" LOL.

[QUOTE=RogerOver;6059328]Good thing they aren't hookers. And the hooker? She won't be banned. Just remember. They're "POT's" LOL.[/QUOTE]If my account were banned, I'd just charge the fee back to Seeking. That said, it's not hard to just move chats off the site ASAP before talking more freely.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/9f3bdfa1-c748-4cbc-b3af-3b6c9656187c[/URL]

Claims 21 on her profile, but said 28 in chat. Played dumb when I mentioned the discrepancy. Discussed a meet, but then came up with a sob story about her car being in the shop.

It would be nice if they'd not use the same sob stories panhandlers here have been using on me for 25+ years.

[QUOTE=RogerOver;6059328]Good thing they aren't hookers. And the hooker? She won't be banned. Just remember. They're "POT's" LOL.[/QUOTE]They definitely get banned too. I know of a few girls that got banned. Just look at how many of the girls that Bam shares with us that say "profile not available". The problem is that they can easily create another profile. Us guys on the other hand need a new payment method which makes it more difficult.

In the past on seeking, most everyone on the site knew exactly what the site was about. But now with the rebranding both men and women are looking for all different kinds of things and the women are so much easier to piss off because so many are looking for dating or more. They think Seeking is a dating site that has a wealthier class of men than Match or Bumble.

[QUOTE=Decatur21;6059901]They definitely get banned too. I know of a few girls that got banned. Just look at how many of the girls that Bam shares with us that say "profile not available". The problem is that they can easily create another profile. Us guys on the other hand need a new payment method which makes it more difficult.

In the past on seeking, most everyone on the site knew exactly what the site was about. But now with the rebranding both men and women are looking for all different kinds of things and the women are so much easier to piss off because so many are looking for dating or more. They think Seeking is a dating site that has a wealthier class of men than Match or Bumble.[/QUOTE]A high end dating site would include a higher end cohort of women too, but it seems full of 2-bit scammers to me. Haven't come across any medical residents or post doctoral students. Dating "up" in the way claimed above is not really a thing IMO.

[QUOTE=Ginzo666;6059955]A high end dating site would include a higher end cohort of women too, but it seems full of 2-bit scammers to me. Haven't come across any medical residents or post doctoral students. Dating "up" in the way claimed above is not really a thing IMO.[/QUOTE]

I didn't make that up. It says it on their website.

"Seeking is the luxury dating site for successful and attractive singles. ".

"Best Site for Luxury Dating".

"What It Means to Start Dating Up:

Seeking members are sophisticated individuals who wish to date attractive and successful people in a way that goes beyond typical social dating traditions and trends. ".

"We launched in 2006 at [URL]SeekingArrangement.com[/URL], the premier luxury dating website for quality singles. ".

In fact they trademarked "Start Dating Up".

Btw, I think it's implied that the women are "dating up".

[QUOTE=Decatur21;6060143]I didn't make that up. It says it on their website.

"Seeking is the luxury dating site for successful and attractive singles. ".

"Best Site for Luxury Dating".

"What It Means to Start Dating Up:

Seeking members are sophisticated individuals who wish to date attractive and successful people in a way that goes beyond typical social dating traditions and trends. ".

"We launched in 2006 at [URL]SeekingArrangement.com[/URL], the premier luxury dating website for quality singles. ".

In fact they trademarked "Start Dating Up".

Btw, I think it's implied that the women are "dating up".[/QUOTE]Yeah, I'm sure they're trying that, but also tried not doing adult content. And Elon Musk offered $45 billion for a company that profits about $300 million.

Here is my latest list. It's length testifies to the prevalence of scammers and time-wasters on the site. If you block or ignore the profiles on this list, you are likely to improve your hunting efficiency. As Decatur21 noted, some of the links may already be gone. That can happen but I am not planning to check them a second time before I post. If I go back a month or more on some of my postings, nearly 100% are deleted or idle. Good luck to all!

ArtisticPlayer: Lazy Kenyan pic seller, will be gone by the end of the day, using pictures of porn star Elsa Jean: [URL]https://www.instagram.com/elsaxjean/[/URL] I preemptively blocked him.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/45800230-07bd-409d-8c81-de8350e947f6[/URL]


Serena: actually lives near Toledo. Cannot meet in our area. This is the second profile like this.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/f0b50bb0-75ab-43a5-8e43-85ad0e2fcb50[/URL]


DuliceK: SCAMMER using voip from LA, TGTBT, actually lives in Chicago, knows nothing about Cinti, asking for Telegram or What'sApp, [URL]https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100075459460988;[/URL] ? Dulice Kohornen? No other data.

[URL]https://members.whatsyourprice.com/profile/kjmyRG1z0XK2wKp57DLlYvQg[/URL]


Classyheiress: Kenyan pic seller, lazy and will not last long, using stolen pics: [URL]https://en.whotwi.com/Mativiptv/tweets/media[/URL].

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/f83b2562-2c71-4df8-8a63-ec9f936de92a[/URL]


Dolphin kiss: classic crypto-scammer, age-pic mismatch, TGTBT.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/959a4602-c6e4-416d-8377-4855b8fcb736[/URL]


ComedicRunner: location is bouncing around.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/b97238bd-b30d-49c6-be84-c0152e8ca205[/URL]


Seeking is getting quicker. A new profile "Megan" popped up using pictures of Jakara Mitchell. In less than 5 minutes it was gone.


Nat_babe1217: TGTBT / fuzzy pics, "not interested in meeting up due to safety reasons, and the fact that I have a full time job and side business, and not a lot of free time".

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/d633c025-6df6-40b2-aaa2-5070704b5678[/URL]


Me oh my: "I need small upfront payment to travel to and from tho. I do not pay for the travel expenses".

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/fca36871-9f38-4e9d-adb5-10619a00b91a[/URL]


Faith02: using scammer language, "I'm looking for something real, I'm new to all of this but I'm really willing to settle down, I want someone who actually shows me love and affection not some "arrangement" ".

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/6b1957a6-caf2-4f37-82f2-e26168dad564[/URL]


BAM.

[QUOTE=Ginzo666;6057896]GPS is more of a bubble than BTC at its peak.[/QUOTE]Lets just round it off at 2 k and you can kick me in the balls and we'll call it a day.

[QUOTE=MikeJones1313;6062386]Lets just round it off at 2 k and you can kick me in the balls and we'll call it a day.[/QUOTE]LOL. Awesome man. That's definitely funny! Changing 100!

FriendlyChick.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/96db6168-f2a8-4998-b0be-e578f45a23ac[/URL]

Her message to me: "I'm seeking for fwb with 500 p pm is that cool with you?

I've run into countless scammers who don't understand the English language, and they always say "I'm seeking for" LOL.

Claims to be in Indy and Cincy on occasion.

Another one trying to sell pics after setting up a meet.

MD area code (443) 372-8 xxx.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/d5ca8cb9-1b2c-4c52-b99b-38bc6d01359b[/URL]

[QUOTE=Happtrav;6048513]SweetEnthusiast: If you are lonely and looking for someone to text. Contact her. She is very responsive over text. But she is a major head case and mentally unstable.

Seniors DM me if you are interested in her phone number.[/QUOTE]Are you referring to the SweetEnthusiast who posts on the Dayton Seeking website? Tall, skinny, short hair? If so, I've been texting with her. What makes you conclude she is a major head case? DM is fine. Thanks in advance Happy Travels. TSD1959.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/b32e9b20-dbfe-4d0d-839f-108e8bbe3615[/URL]

Has anyone spent time with her? If so can you share your experience? Feel free to pm me.

[QUOTE=JackOhLantern;6063650]FriendlyChick.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/96db6168-f2a8-4998-b0be-e578f45a23ac[/URL]

Her message to me: "I'm seeking for fwb with 500 p pm is that cool with you?

I've run into countless scammers who don't understand the English language, and they always say "I'm seeking for" LOL.[/QUOTE]That link is dead for me. However, I am pretty sure I know who you mean. She is a pro. She uses the same distinctive pictures every time she shows up. Moves between Cincinnati and Columbus. Hot body but something off about her face. I have never met but previous reviews said she was happy with 300/ ppm. Are you able to post one of her pictures or a screen shot of her profile?

BAM.

[QUOTE=TSD1959;6064364]Are you referring to the SweetEnthusiast who posts on the Dayton Seeking website? Tall, skinny, short hair? If so, I've been texting with her. What makes you conclude she is a major head case? DM is fine. Thanks in advance Happy Travels. TSD1959.[/QUOTE]I am pretty sure he is referring to Nyx (link below.) She has had more than one profile on more than one site. When I first chatted with her, she was texting as a resident from a mental health facility. Her profile says she is a "mental health advocate." There are multiple reports of strange behavior. That said, people change and can get better.

Are you guys offering her money just to text?

BAM

https://members.seeking.com/member/5937bed5-990d-47b3-aead-528c7de16756

[QUOTE=WhereDreamsGo;5991552]One of the Milford sisters has resurfaced on Secret Benefits -- Megan (I think Vanessa may truly be retired). Megan is as honest and reliable as ever (I am being a little sarcastic here) so count on spending a lot of time getting the appointment to happen, if it does. She's also upped her rates, by virtue of being a sugar baby now I guess. She's got a boyfriend with a long rap sheet and numerous warrants in a couple of counties -- so be cautious of any blond dude you might see hanging around (having a boyfriend with a long rap sheet is not new, but the boyfriend is). If you're a fan, I'd say go for it, with caution.

[URL]https://www.secretbenefits.com/next/profile/13f2bac57128563e[/URL][/QUOTE]Just as an update, heard from a reliable source who tried to hook up that she is now operating out of downtown / OTR / West End area, and when he arrived her boyfriend was coming out to collect the money. It could all just be a scam run entirely by him to cash and dash, or something. He's a tweaker with a long criminal history, including scamming an old lady in her apartment and trying to run off with her phone and money. Obviously, stay away. A little hard to believe Megan is doing this or involved, but who knows?

This one caught my eye.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/0f62ec15-5e33-4d86-98c0-3b4a0fa23cb8[/URL]

[QUOTE=TwackJackSo;6067205]This one caught my eye.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/0f62ec15-5e33-4d86-98c0-3b4a0fa23cb8[/URL][/QUOTE]I talked to her a few months ago and she refused to share a picture of her face. I moved on.

[QUOTE=Decatur21;6067586]I talked to her a few months ago and she refused to share a picture of her face. I moved on.[/QUOTE]That's odd behavior given that she volunteers to video chat on her profile. Did you ask for a video chat?

BAM.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/30a21a79-73fa-46f8-885e-a1ed5d19147c[/URL]

Throws a stack of pics at you when she goes to text that look nothing like the profile and then claims to actually be a blonde wearing a wig in the profile pic.

614.654. 4 xxx.

[QUOTE=BamBam;6066635]I am pretty sure he is referring to Nyx (link below.) She has had more than one profile on more than one site. When I first chatted with her, she was texting as a resident from a mental health facility. Her profile says she is a "mental health advocate." There are multiple reports of strange behavior. That said, people change and can get better.

Are you guys offering her money just to text?

BAM

https://members.seeking.com/member/5937bed5-990d-47b3-aead-528c7de16756[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.secretbenefits.com/next/profile/bb0e757c0b5d54b7[/URL]

[QUOTE=BamBam;6061357]


Faith02: using scammer language, "I'm looking for something real, I'm new to all of this but I'm really willing to settle down, I want someone who actually shows me love and affection not some "arrangement" ".

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/6b1957a6-caf2-4f37-82f2-e26168dad564[/URL]


BAM.[/QUOTE]Met her for coffee last night. Smoking hot. Better in person than pics. Says she doesn't do anything physical but after we met for coffee she sent me a ton of vids of her playing with herself. Not sure of she is just a rinser or what so keep that in mind. But my gawd is she sexy.

[QUOTE=MikeJones1313;6069464]Met her for coffee last night. Smoking hot. Better in person than pics. Says she doesn't do anything physical but after we met for coffee she sent me a ton of vids of her playing with herself. Not sure of she is just a rinser or what so keep that in mind. But my gawd is she sexy.[/QUOTE]Getting those videos for the cost of a cup of coffee doesn't sound like getting rinsed to me. Good luck and keep your wits about you!

[QUOTE=BamBam;6068217]That's odd behavior given that she volunteers to video chat on her profile. Did you ask for a video chat?

BAM.[/QUOTE]I can confirm she's real and very fun.

Met with her, she loves to suck cock! Much heavier than picture shows. I didn't feel like we clicked, very reasonable allowance, if she's your type.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/6571740d-439b-49f2-8723-df430a15261c[/URL]

Met a few girls off of WYP from Cinci.

This girl seems like a young pro in the making. Went on two dates and essentially was ghosted trying to set up the third. I brought up getting some alone time with her and she hinted that on the third date we could do that. As soon as it got to that point she pulled away. It was also discussed on the first date, that's what I was looking for. She said she was banned from seeking because others had brought up meeting in a hotel for fun. Seemed like a lame duck answer, but as I read on here seeking will ban people. She's a talker and I'm thinking she is mostly looking for platonic, but will get as much as she can before she has to show her cards or she just disappears. I have PII, if anyone got any further I'd like to know.

[URL]https://members.whatsyourprice.com/profile/mz6PW1dL0kOlGyy0qEbwMDy8[/URL]

The other I do not have a link for, looks like she completely took down her profile, met her in a hotel just for fun. I was going to try and do at least dinner, but we didn't have much time that day. Got down to business and enjoyed it. Thicker girl, but wears it well for her age. She blocked me less than a week later. I have PII for this girl as well.

All in all WYP has been a lot more miss Than hit, but currently still chatting a few others up.

Ok, I have a couple of girls on SA that I think are the real deal, and we've moved to text. I had mentioned in a PM that I was looking for some naughty fun, and both of them seemed DTF. What's the next best step on text? Should I ask for a meet? Should I make my intentions known? How to best proceed? Like my sales trainer told me, I want to get to the "no" quickly, if that's the case so I can move on.

[QUOTE=TickleJay;6072434]Ok, I have a couple of girls on SA that I think are the real deal, and we've moved to text. I had mentioned in a PM that I was looking for some naughty fun, and both of them seemed DTF. What's the next best step on text? Should I ask for a meet? Should I make my intentions known? How to best proceed? Like my sales trainer told me, I want to get to the "no" quickly, if that's the case so I can move on.[/QUOTE]A simple "PPM?" will get things straight to the point.

[QUOTE=TickleJay;6072434]Ok, I have a couple of girls on SA that I think are the real deal, and we've moved to text. I had mentioned in a PM that I was looking for some naughty fun, and both of them seemed DTF. What's the next best step on text? Should I ask for a meet? Should I make my intentions known? How to best proceed? Like my sales trainer told me, I want to get to the "no" quickly, if that's the case so I can move on.[/QUOTE]Get a meet scheduled. Don't be surprised when a good % of them turn out to be pic sellers or have run out of baby formula / gas / crack and need $35. Some of them will get a date scheduled and try that shit later on or at the last minute.

[QUOTE=TickleJay;6072434]Ok, I have a couple of girls on SA that I think are the real deal, and we've moved to text. I had mentioned in a PM that I was looking for some naughty fun, and both of them seemed DTF. What's the next best step on text? Should I ask for a meet? Should I make my intentions known? How to best proceed? Like my sales trainer told me, I want to get to the "no" quickly, if that's the case so I can move on.[/QUOTE]Anyone who is a veteran of Seeking will affirm that texting with girls who will never meet, or girls who aren't really the girls in the photos, or girls who aren't even girls at all (but maybe a guy looking to sell you photos from the internet) can be an endless, time-wasting rabbit hole.

Find out where she's located and determine a time / public place that is mutually convenient for meeting. Any girl who is serious about f-ing for cash will regard that request favorably.

In lieu of that, try for a videochat. (You can videochat on Seeking.).

But do *not* get pulled into an endless text exchange. Get out of text and into the real world ASAP.

Start with a public meeting in Starbucks, etc, because you never know for certain whom you're talking to until you meet in person. I once invited a girl from the site directly to my house. She was 50 lbs heavier than the girl in the pics (not the same girl at all). That was awkward. That was also 2019. Today, I know better.

[QUOTE=TickleJay;6072434]Ok, I have a couple of girls on SA that I think are the real deal, and we've moved to text. I had mentioned in a PM that I was looking for some naughty fun, and both of them seemed DTF. What's the next best step on text? Should I ask for a meet? Should I make my intentions known? How to best proceed? Like my sales trainer told me, I want to get to the "no" quickly, if that's the case so I can move on.[/QUOTE]Adding my support to what Todd said. Get to text or video chat as quickly as possible. Scammers generally cannot do either. In person meetings are the most reliable. When they happen. People will frequently ghost. I always confirm about an hour before. If no confirmation, I do not go. Video chat has advantages and disadvantages. The advantage is you waste no time and get an immediate feel for if the girl matches her pictures. On the downside, some of the local rinsers are happy to video chat but then make excuses for not meeting. The in person meet request tends to flush these out early. I like the concept of getting to No quickly if that is going to be the eventual result.

BAM.

Here is my accumulated list since the last report.

CheekyBeauty: Taking me straight to text, using number from Jersey/Philly, seems real by text and I have some PII, wants money at the MnG, when I declined shared "her" disappointment: "Fuck you broke faggot keep searching I dont deal with btoke boys." I wished him all the best!

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/25b259f7-3149-4361-a9ad-e4d29ed25e41[/URL]


Sexykay223: No phone. Asking immediately to switch to gmail or IG. Ready to go straight to the FC BUT, needs gas money up front. I blocked her.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/a4da1afa-2031-444f-8fc4-4378bac69f67[/URL]


Fox: Classic crypto-scammer. Age-pic mismatch, TGTBT, using pics off Australian model: [URL]https://www.instagram.com/paigedecinque/;[/URL] Unlikely to last out the day.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/2cc8529d-d5d3-4113-a845-24c815fc2284[/URL]


Kkthebabbyy: was K-beautiful and others, multiple profiles, tries to get money for food, diapers, etc prior to meeting. No car cannot host, etc. Nando1!

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/80bd6159-9ea3-4b84-9e1c-2e69266e9a27[/URL]


DynamicSeductress: repeat posting. Profiles keeps jumping around: Dayton now but previously New Castle, Delaware was London was Cinti. Claims to be back in Ohio now. Her current number is from Indianapolis, Asking 500 ppm half in advance. I regretfully declined.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/b9cf49dc-d6b0-4329-bc24-b698065e9307[/URL]


Hart: says her name is Alice. Wants to meet for fun right away. But she actually lives in Dublin (Ohio? Pretty reasonable at $100 deposit and 150 on arrival. (She expects me to host.) Using pictures of Vendella Vandals. Using Miami, FL #. Gave me paypal of a dude in Kenya.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/31b95c9e-854c-49a1-a3e9-4946ea5f2d02[/URL]


PhotogenicSiren: Classic crypto-scammer.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/2183c0a9-6448-44df-abd0-c3bfcf19d12b[/URL]


introduce yourself: Chatted me up. Agreed an offer, Went to text using Pontiac MI #. Kept leading me on. Finally agreed to meet for drinks this evening. Then hit me with a request for money: Uber there and back. I offered to send an Uber myself. She then ghosted and blocked me on the site. Can anyone else post a link for me?


BrightDame: taking me straight to text. Using crypto-scammer language, using a voip # from Hermosa Beach.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/ebbf2e80-a187-424b-9c07-dd3a1007b25b[/URL]


BAM.

[QUOTE=ToddCincy;6072650]Anyone who is a veteran of Seeking will affirm that texting with girls who will never meet, or girls who aren't really the girls in the photos, or girls who aren't even girls at all (but maybe a guy looking to sell you photos from the internet) can be an endless, time-wasting rabbit hole.

Find out where she's located and determine a time / public place that is mutually convenient for meeting. Any girl who is serious about f-ing for cash will regard that request favorably.

In lieu of that, try for a videochat. (You can videochat on Seeking.).

But do *not* get pulled into an endless text exchange. Get out of text and into the real world ASAP.

Start with a public meeting in Starbucks, etc, because you never know for certain whom you're talking to until you meet in person. I once invited a girl from the site directly to my house. She was 50 lbs heavier than the girl in the pics (not the same girl at all). That was awkward. That was also 2019. Today, I know better.[/QUOTE]Todd's comments are spot on – and affirm what he said about endless texting – it normally goes nowhere. There is now so much crap on the site these days, but also still some real SB's. My best encounters almost all started with a M&G in a public place, this is crucial to be successful at this and I think most real SB's feel the same way. You need to do the work and it's a pita. But when you hit paydirt, and its harder than ever, it so fun! Nothing like banging a hot young woman half your age.

The face to face meeting is the key and once she decides "hell yes I can screw this guy for money" you are in. And if she's not ready today, she has met you and might change her mind and be ready tomorrow. Remember these woman get hundreds of messages so be patience. It goes a long way in this game and try not to act like a dog all the time. LOL.

Just met a real SB on an out of town trip and I forgot how much fun it can be. Met for a drink and we were behind closed doors within the hour. Reasonable gift, great sex and would date this woman in real life without a doubt. I think I was her first SD encounter which made it all the better. Best part is, I asked for a second meet in 2 weeks, and she is all in!

[QUOTE=ItCouldBeMe2;6072558]A simple "PPM?" will get things straight to the point.[/QUOTE]Very bad advice. Try to take to text before talking allowance or sex. If someone reports you for anything I believe that they will check all old messages and anything referring to PPM will get you banned. I don't even talk about sex anymore on the site. I will say intimate encounters and leave it at that until we take it to text. If they won't move to text then they are most likely not interested or fake. I definitely agree Meet and Greets are very important. If they ask for money for a meet and greet tell them you will pay for the meal and possibly give them a cash gift of your discretion to help with gas. I usually give $50 but if it's a really good date and I am very interested I have done $100. However most m&g have moved from the restaurant to the hotel.

Tips:

1. Never under any circumstances send money.

2. Don't pay for a hotel without at least a meet and greet.

3. Use a text apps such as Text Free or Text Now.

4. Never give your real name until you are comfortable that she will not cause you trouble.

5. Talk to potential SB with respect just as you would with a woman that you approach to date. This gets you a long ways especially with the inexperienced once's as true sugar babies chose their daddy not like escorts who take anyone with $.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/7e07fd3c-a089-4371-a927-fc70a4181f4c[/URL]

Eager to meet and looking for someone only interested in her physically.

Anyone have any more info?

[QUOTE=LongTimeLurk;6074042]Very bad advice. Try to take to text before talking allowance or sex. If someone reports you for anything I believe that they will check all old messages and anything referring to PPM will get you banned. I don't even talk about sex anymore on the site. I will say intimate encounters and leave it at that until we take it to text. If they won't move to text then they are most likely not interested or fake. I definitely agree Meet and Greets are very important. If they ask for money for a meet and greet tell them you will pay for the meal and possibly give them a cash gift of your discretion to help with gas. I usually give $50 but if it's a really good date and I am very interested I have done $100. However most m&g have moved from the restaurant to the hotel.

Tips:

1. Never under any circumstances send money.

2. Don't pay for a hotel without at least a meet and greet.

3. Use a text apps such as Text Free or Text Now.

4. Never give your real name until you are comfortable that she will not cause you trouble.

5. Talk to potential SB with respect just as you would with a woman that you approach to date. This gets you a long ways especially with the inexperienced once's as true sugar babies chose their daddy not like escorts who take anyone with $.[/QUOTE]Excellent advice from LongTimeLurk. Good on ya brother. Veteran SD here. This advice will work vast majority of the time. I never speak about sex until we go to personal text, and then only after we establish some sort of report. Unless she wants it right away. Which most young girls will not. Always exceptions. If you treat these girls like you would a GF, you can go far. Very far. And I always let them know upfront in my own BF sort of way that we can go out and have a night out on the town, and I'll pay for all that, but I'm not giving you money just for that privilege. So I never pay a girl just to be able to take them out for a night. Now you can convey that to them in a non-crude way. Anyway its worked for me beautifully. Sounds like we got a winner here!