Rants, Raves and Opinions AKA "The Octagon"

Okay... This "her rate is too high" horse has been beaten to a pulp and is on its way to the glue factory.

It is her body and her right to charge what she wants. If you don't want to pay that rate, then see one of the ladies who are selling the bodies for $150. No matter how much everyone keeps saying, $500/400/300 is tooo much, it won't force Lila to change. Nor should it.

I have been in the hobby for 20 years. I remember when $150 was a high rate. At $500 or even $250 I probably won't see her because I can't budget more than $200 per date. I am not a bottom feeder just someone who has found multiple women in this market that I enjoy (and I hope they enjoy me) for that price.

Just recently I had a lady offer to do two duo appointments with me and her friend in trade for a photo shoot and web page for her friend. I told her straight up, I don't do trades. My rate is $300 for a two hour shoot and another $100 to make a website from one of the many free sites that are out there. I have my price and I am sticking to it. If I don't do the shoot I won't be out anything. If I did the shoot and found out the friend and I didn't click, I would probably not go through with the appointments and would have nothing for my time. Some would say I should have taken her up on the deal. I say I have standards that I maintain. So does Lila.

So guys quityourbitchin' and see Silk, Molly, the EE ladies or one of the other ten or twelve who are in your price range.

After looking at her site I noticed this:

Punctuality is very important to me, please be on time for our appointment and if you are running late please let me know as soon as possible. If you are more than fifteen minutes late we will likely need to reschedule and you will be subject to a 20% fee.

If you cancel within twelve hours I do ask for a 20% fee payable by Green Dot Money Pak Reloadable Card, or a VISA Gift Card. I understand things happen, but please keep in mind my time is just as valuable as yours is.

With all the talk about her this is something to also consider. Interesting... And what does she do if she cancels?

Lila firstly has the right to charge whatever rate she wants to and feels she can get. Us guys have the right to pay that rate or not, as we choose, but no one has the right to tell her what she should charge. Remember the fable about the fox and the grapes. Second, she has the right to decide who she wants to see, and has the right to discriminate as she chooses. Quit whining.

The economics of this business are such that if a girl can get 500 an hour, and gets 2 or 3 hours work a week, she can live very well if she doesn't have exorbitant tastes. Working 3 hours a week for her is 6 grand a month, tax free, which for most of us would require making 8 or 9 grand taxable. And I don't begrudge her a dime of it. Remember she's probably not going to get to work till she's 65 and then retire with a pension. Quit whining. Or do some of you folks want the government to mandate that working girls have a maximum wage?

Cheech.

[QUOTE=SinfulDreams;2020735]Pay attention to her site. She is $300 an hour and I am $250 soon to be increasing to $300. I am just fine with reality hun.[/QUOTE]Read much hun?? Think that says $500, not $300. Good luck. She has a post in every city in Ohio so obviously she has very few, if any clients.

Classy Lila Bella.

I'm not like any other woman you have ever encountered. I'm mature, articulate and discreet. The true lady with class you won't be embarrassed to be seen with. A fine bottle of wine and great conversation for starters.

I'm a petite blonde (115 lbs., 5'3') with remarkable blue eyes and a sassy personality. Totally uninhibited and very responsive.

In or out calls available. Sophistication, charm and beauty come at a price. Exceptional service is not inexpensive and inexpensive service is not exceptional. $500 HR / $250 HHR.

Ron M from Chicago.

At 500 dollars I can see my girl 5 x's. She charges me 100 per Session. No Clock Watching or Rushing. Good Looking enough for what she charges me. After almost a year of seeing her, I've never had a Bad Session with her. No girl IMO is worth 500 per Session. Very few girls are worth 300 per Session. The Economy in Ohio must be in alot better shape than here in Chicago for the girls to charge those prices. Just my 2 cents.

[QUOTE=Crism0808;2021212]Read much hun?? Think that says $500, not $300. Good luck. She has a post in every city in Ohio so obviously she has very few, if any clients.

Classy Lila Bella.

I'm not like any other woman you have ever encountered. I'm mature, articulate and discreet. The true lady with class you won't be embarrassed to be seen with. A fine bottle of wine and great conversation for starters.

I'm a petite blonde (115 lbs., 5'3') with remarkable blue eyes and a sassy personality. Totally uninhibited and very responsive.

In or out calls available. Sophistication, charm and beauty come at a price. Exceptional service is not inexpensive and inexpensive service is not exceptional. $500 HR / $250 HHR.[/QUOTE]Her personal site does say 300.

[QUOTE=Cheech1;2021191]Lila firstly has the right to charge whatever rate she wants to and feels she can get. Us guys have the right to pay that rate or not, as we choose, but no one has the right to tell her what she should charge. Remember the fable about the fox and the grapes. Second, she has the right to decide who she wants to see, and has the right to discriminate as she chooses. Quit whining.

The economics of this business are such that if a girl can get 500 an hour, and gets 2 or 3 hours work a week, she can live very well if she doesn't have exorbitant tastes. Working 3 hours a week for her is 6 grand a month, tax free, which for most of us would require making 8 or 9 grand taxable. And I don't begrudge her a dime of it. Remember she's probably not going to get to work till she's 65 and then retire with a pension. Quit whining. Or do some of you folks want the government to mandate that working girls have a maximum wage?

Cheech.[/QUOTE]As an outsider, I could not have stated this this better myself.

I can remember back about 5 years ago it was very hard to find an escort for under $200 an hr.

And that didn't stop hardly anyone that I know, The cost of everything has went up, But the cost of the escorts has.

Went down a lot! IMHO a provider can and should whatever she wants! It's like your boss coming up to you.

And saying hey I want you to earn less then you were making a few years ago but I want you to work just as hard!

To me there are things that people just don't get when it comes to the money that some of these lady's put out to.

Make a decent profit. They have their hotel, makeup, sexy clothing, hygiene products, some need babysitters.

Transportation, food for when they ain't home and so on. So IMHO if you guys see a provider that you can't afford.

Then just move on to the one that will fit in you budget! There really isn't any need to call anyone out because they.

Want to make better money then someone else. Hell we all do it in our jobs! Why can't they!

Stay safe.

Wdm.

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[QUOTE=HuntLadys29;2021041]Just like a window all decorated for Christmas or Halloween its still a window, you can put your spin on your giner or personality but you are still a human being and it's still a vagina 500 is way to much money. Talking about your body your face intelligence means nothing again it's still a vagina it's still sex no more no less. .[/QUOTE]I have to disagree, I think the rate can be determined by a number of factors. 1st what type of client are you seeking? What type of environment do you offer, are you thin or young or are you truly attractive, do you plop on your back with your legs spread or do you create an experience. I remember when the stip club in Mt Carmel first opened long before it became Dejavu, I went in one night and it was like seeing a Las Vegas showgirl, they were in costume Angels, army, cowgirls, ect. But at the end the were naked girls on a stage, I remember that night because of the show, for me it was something to see. I think if a girl can offer an experience wether its $300 or $2000 it can be a great value, personally I can't afford those rates but it has been pointed out on this forum that I may pay more than others. I don't see the regular girls that are so highly reviewed and at a lower rate, personally it freaks me out that the bed is still warm or that someone may have just donated to her dental program, so I normally chose ladies that appear to be the road less traveled, sometimes I chose well and other times I make horrible choices. If I had more funds where $3-500 would not present a burden I am sure that there are ladies who I would feel were a good value at that price.

[QUOTE=CheroKid;2021274]I have to disagree, I think the rate can be determined by a number of factors. 1st what type of client are you seeking? What type of environment do you offer, are you thin or young or are you truly attractive, do you plop on your back with your legs spread or do you create an experience. I remember when the stip club in Mt Carmel first opened long before it became Dejavu, I went in one night and it was like seeing a Las Vegas showgirl, they were in costume Angels, army, cowgirls, ect. But at the end the were naked girls on a stage, I remember that night because of the show, for me it was something to see. I think if a girl can offer an experience wether its $300 or $2000 it can be a great value, personally I can't afford those rates but it has been pointed out on this forum that I may pay more than others. I don't see the regular girls that are so highly reviewed and at a lower rate, personally it freaks me out that the bed is still warm or that someone may have just donated to her dental program, so I normally chose ladies that appear to be the road less traveled, sometimes I chose well and other times I make horrible choices. If I had more funds where $3-500 would not present a burden I am sure that there are ladies who I would feel were a good value at that price.[/QUOTE]Well this lady is advertising in about 6-7 different cities I'm quite sure her bed will be warm and some fool donated to her dental program at 500 dollars sorry I still don't agree and there isn't anything that you or anyone else can say that will change my mind. Sorry I would never pay 500 for a 36 yo woman I would be pressed to pay that much for a 19 yo. And sorry you can't compare Las Vegas showgirls to this chick they probably wouldn't let her in the back row. I don't mean to sound really harsh on this lady but that self serving rebuttal she wrote just shows she is a legend in her own mind. Be safe guys I'm out.

[QUOTE=Mbgbe696;2021222]Her personal site does say 300.[/QUOTE]I don't care what her personal site says. Look at her post in every city here in OH that she posted in. Where do you think I got that from?

[QUOTE=Crism0808;2021433]I don't care what her personal site says. Look at her post in every city here in OH that she posted in. Where do you think I got that from?[/QUOTE]What's funny is she said elite group of regulars, period. That's exactly what I have now, I have no complaints and do not want for business. Yet she post ads.

[QUOTE=HuntLadys29;2021413] And sorry you can't compare Las Vegas showgirls to this chick they probably wouldn't let her in the back row. I don't mean to sound really harsh on this lady but that self serving rebuttal she wrote just shows she is a legend in her own mind. Be safe guys I'm out.[/QUOTE]I agree. She doesn't compare to the kind of talent other cities have to offer. Some of the HHr 1.0's I've seen are better looking and provide GFE. She doesn't do a thing for me. Sorry to offend anyone, but I wouldn't pay 1.0 for her, nice hotel room or not. Whodeyman is right about how pricing has dropped over the last 5 years. 3.0 was pretty much the norm for a nicer looking provider back then, local or travel girl. Remember Miami Companions who traveled the country, until they got busted? Girls ranged from 300-500. One of my best experiences was a $500 Russian in Ft. Lauderdale.

I have exchange a few emails with the lady in question. She is new. She also tends to be self-confident and argumentative. Half of that is appealing to me. She has jumped her rates up and down. She first showed on Backpage at a very low rate. She is learning the hobby. If she is getting help and advice from Sinful, I believe she will soon be a wonderful addition to the people in this business. For me, I think we have worried this bone enough and should let it drop.

Redbred.