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After reading the real Ziggys post about someone trying to get between him and his special friend I decided I would do something I have not done since I started here. When I pmed some of you guys about some of the things I was concerned about Jade you guys got all upset with me but that don't make sense. All this secret talk and only sharing her with who you think is good is fine but this board is about sharing my intel so we know what kind of trouble to avoid and what is good so I decided I was going to have my say on the board. I don't want to do it openly with my real handle so I don't get flamed. You guys that told me she is the real deal are either not thinking with your big head or your in on some scam together to get a discount from her. I spent more coinage on this one than I should have and did it twice. That won't happen again. I almost believed her game until a couple of you guys that made her your atf came clean with how messed up this has gotten and that you know what she is doing. She is pretty and is okay in bed but not great. A lot of tattoes and peircings which is okay but a little much and doesn't fit with the innocent sweet type she pretends to be. The mental games though are to much and for that much money I am going to give that money to providers who I know are not going to play games with my big head and that are professional enough to tell you they are doing a role play secion. This victim bullshit that she plays is just that, its bullshit or she needs to find a nicer game to play where its not so scary for her. Or maybe she really believes it but I think with that kind of money she is running a scam and I don't like seeing what you guys and her are doing to members of this board.

It is always nice to hear from a pyt how good I am and how great my cock is but her over sweetness isn't real to me. I'm a old man that is less then good looking with a beer belly and a big cock so it doesn't ad up if it werent for the high dollar she charges. She reminds me of some twisted gf's I have been with that really wanted in my pocket to get my wallet and would go on and on about how great I am. Those squeels and moans of hers are some really good acting or she just likes getting plowed by any guy with a big cock and thats a good thing for you guys with cash to burn and passing her around like your favorite play toy. At a good price I would keep doing her to. But not warning your fellow hobbyist about what she is really about is pretty low when you now and then pass her off to guys for the same coin as top dollar professional and tell us all she is the real deal while building up a unreal expectation. She has been around the block a few times so you can't say she don't know what she is doing. I'm okay with that if I know up front and don't mind paying. The innocent little poor me I can't pay for school thing without spreadin them wide for you is fine at a good price but lets keep it real. There are some good things about her and some so so things about her and then there is the playing with guys minds here that are not so good at all. A little less drama and a dose of reality here would be good for her and the board. So why can't I say that on the board with out being flamed here?

I think you are just thinking into this way to much. I was back in town today and setup something with her and had a lot of fun (this is what it's about right?)! She never ran a game on me I a smart and can see them from a mile away. I have been in this world for many years and seen many good stories. She never tried to upsell me never rushed me and she is not even what I would consider a high dollar for the donation. She is not a streetwalker either I think you guys want to compare her to the street girls $ but she is not this If you can't afford the price of the Jaguar why are you trying to take it for a test drive? If I am wrong please go ahead and fill me in on this scheme by mail she is running on all of us because I don't see it if I or someone else wants to call her our ATF what does it matter? Maybe I am one of these guys not paying a lot of money if I am so be it. As far as the moans yes they could be fake but I honestly don't give a shit if they are or not you watch porn and think all of that moaning is real LOL? I am not flaming in this post either everyone comes out with the flaming all the time I am simply stating what I have seen when I have seen Jade and it has always been good. If she is using me for my money she wouldn't be the first to do it LOL some that were on my top list at one time used me for my money before that's fine when I realized it they stopped getting my money. Usually because they got greedy asking me for more and more and giving me sob stories. That's when I realize whats going on and I stop seeing them or see them a lot less. Jade has never done this to me! I honestly think this is a post from someone who can't see her and is pissed that she won't see him. Just like that guy who claims she is self promoting herself on this website.

So I seen Jade today in the afternoon while I was in town and had a wonderful time. We met at our normal spot it went without problems and both of us left very happy from what I could tell. If you want more info send me a PM.

[QUOTE=NotaGatorfan; 1655230]After reading the real Ziggys post about someone trying to get between him and his special friend I decided I would do something I have not done since I started here. When I pmed some of you guys about some of the things I was concerned about Jade you guys got all upset with me but that don't make sense. All this secret talk and only sharing her with who you think is good is fine but this board is about sharing my intel so we know what kind of trouble to avoid and what is good so I decided I was going to have my say on the board. I don't want to do it openly with my real handle so I don't get flamed. You guys that told me she is the real deal are either not thinking with your big head or your in on some scam together to get a discount from her. I spent more coinage on this one than I should have and did it twice. That won't happen again. I almost believed her game until a couple of you guys that made her your atf came clean with how messed up this has gotten and that you know what she is doing. She is pretty and is okay in bed but not great. A lot of tattoes and peircings which is okay but a little much and doesn't fit with the innocent sweet type she pretends to be. The mental games though are to much and for that much money I am going to give that money to providers who I know are not going to play games with my big head and that are professional enough to tell you they are doing a role play secion. This victim bullshit that she plays is just that, its bullshit or she needs to find a nicer game to play where its not so scary for her. Or maybe she really believes it but I think with that kind of money she is running a scam and I don't like seeing what you guys and her are doing to members of this board.

It is always nice to hear from a pyt how good I am and how great my cock is but her over sweetness isn't real to me. I'm a old man that is less then good looking with a beer belly and a big cock so it doesn't ad up if it werent for the high dollar she charges. She reminds me of some twisted gf's I have been with that really wanted in my pocket to get my wallet and would go on and on about how great I am. Those squeels and moans of hers are some really good acting or she just likes getting plowed by any guy with a big cock and thats a good thing for you guys with cash to burn and passing her around like your favorite play toy. At a good price I would keep doing her to. But not warning your fellow hobbyist about what she is really about is pretty low when you now and then pass her off to guys for the same coin as top dollar professional and tell us all she is the real deal while building up a unreal expectation. She has been around the block a few times so you can't say she don't know what she is doing. I'm okay with that if I know up front and don't mind paying. The innocent little poor me I can't pay for school thing without spreadin them wide for you is fine at a good price but lets keep it real. There are some good things about her and some so so things about her and then there is the playing with guys minds here that are not so good at all. A little less drama and a dose of reality here would be good for her and the board. So why can't I say that on the board with out being flamed here?[/QUOTE]

The reason I posted in the first place under this name is when I brought up a concern I had with her you guys that call her your atf I was told the same kinds of things privately that you said in your post and worse. I think its important that this information is told on the board for others to see and not be kept secret so she can charge some of us more than others and to know what they are getting besides some good moaning and squeeling, real or not. I don't see street walkers and never have and never will but think you make a good point. You are used to seeing them and sounds like you have the street knowledge to undersatand that kind of games they play and what prices they are worth. She might charge a guy like you less because she knows you won't fall for her games and can't get more from you if she tries. If you are getting her for a good price then you are one of those I heard from that think they are getting their moneys worth at a good low price. I think the way you compare her to a Jaguar is more of a good comparison than anything, because my ride just came with the same kind of problems as a Jaguar I once owned. The problem with Jaguars are you know you are going to have some problems with them when you buy one but you want the nice ride so you pay for it anyways. You end up surprised by some of the strange problems that they are known for. The repair bills can be very expensive and you can be waiting forever for the parts to come in and have to wait a long time to have that ride again. I even remember one time that my mechanic hinting that if I pay him more he can get me back on the road faster, haha.

I have been in this hobby long enough to understand how this works and have seen price differences between clients with other providers because they were more interested in seeing one kind of client then another. Maybe she is more comfortable with street guys and that is why she sees you so often at a low price. With Jade it is more than just a difference in pricing though. I am not use to the street walker games and I don't like worrying about what I say to a provider and what she says to others about me which is what made me upset when my name came up from two of you about something that should have never been talked about. If someone had told me to be careful about what I say to her then I would not have seen her at all or would have kept my visits with her shorter and about business instead of looking for some good companionship and sex. The reason I am on this board is to exchange information and not to promote or help a provider get as much as she can from some of her clients and to use that information to make a good decision on who to see and to help others do the same thing. Some of you that see her regularly are helping her more than your fellow hobbyists and that really upsets me. And I don't want to see her again and I am not trying to keep anyone from seeing her but if you do see her you should know what you are getting with this one.

I am not posting anything else about her after this and do not want to start another soap opera over another game playing escort that doesn't deserve to be invited back to my home again when I know others that I feel more comfortable with and know not to play those kinds games with anyone and treats everyone the same. And that is thanks to some of you guys that report honestly on this board.

Just for another thing I have never picked up a street walker I was just saying that as a comparison to price as they are notoriously low in price. I think the reason Jade and I get along is her field of study is similar to my field of work and we talk about that a little when we get together. I also always use the Jaguar metaphor and am happy you picked up on it. Almost all providers (escorts) can be compared to a Jaguar most have issues, make funny sounds and cost a lot of money to drive around and keep them running happy! LOL sorry if this offended any of you ladies!

[QUOTE=NotaGatorfan; 1657292]The reason I posted in the first place under this name is when I brought up a concern I had with her you guys that call her your atf I was told the same kinds of things privately that you said in your post and worse. I think its important that this information is told on the board for others to see and not be kept secret so she can charge some of us more than others and to know what they are getting besides some good moaning and squeeling, real or not. I don't see street walkers and never have and never will but think you make a good point. You are used to seeing them and sounds like you have the street knowledge to undersatand that kind of games they play and what prices they are worth. She might charge a guy like you less because she knows you won't fall for her games and can't get more from you if she tries. If you are getting her for a good price then you are one of those I heard from that think they are getting their moneys worth at a good low price. I think the way you compare her to a Jaguar is more of a good comparison than anything, because my ride just came with the same kind of problems as a Jaguar I once owned. The problem with Jaguars are you know you are going to have some problems with them when you buy one but you want the nice ride so you pay for it anyways. You end up surprised by some of the strange problems that they are known for. The repair bills can be very expensive and you can be waiting forever for the parts to come in and have to wait a long time to have that ride again. I even remember one time that my mechanic hinting that if I pay him more he can get me back on the road faster, haha.

I have been in this hobby long enough to understand how this works and have seen price differences between clients with other providers because they were more interested in seeing one kind of client then another. Maybe she is more comfortable with street guys and that is why she sees you so often at a low price. With Jade it is more than just a difference in pricing though. I am not use to the street walker games and I don't like worrying about what I say to a provider and what she says to others about me which is what made me upset when my name came up from two of you about something that should have never been talked about. If someone had told me to be careful about what I say to her then I would not have seen her at all or would have kept my visits with her shorter and about business instead of looking for some good companionship and sex. The reason I am on this board is to exchange information and not to promote or help a provider get as much as she can from some of her clients and to use that information to make a good decision on who to see and to help others do the same thing. Some of you that see her regularly are helping her more than your fellow hobbyists and that really upsets me. And I don't want to see her again and I am not trying to keep anyone from seeing her but if you do see her you should know what you are getting with this one.

I am not posting anything else about her after this and do not want to start another soap opera over another game playing escort that doesn't deserve to be invited back to my home again when I know others that I feel more comfortable with and know not to play those kinds games with anyone and treats everyone the same. And that is thanks to some of you guys that report honestly on this board.[/QUOTE]

WOW that's completely fucked up! I don't have time to properly chime in right now and I no longer like to post anything about Jade, because it just starts a firestorm of posts a pm's. Maybe I'll do that later today. But to the coward that would not reveal his true identity, thank God Jade does not see you anymore. Your obviously a complete nut job! You are completely full of shit and no one is going to listen to anyone who will create an fake I'd just to trash someone. Why would you not use your real ID, if your not trying to see her again? You are a coward! Nobody on this board is going to respect or listen to anything that you have to say. Shame on you.

[QUOTE=NotaGatorfan; 1657292]The reason I posted in the first place under this name is when I brought up a concern I had with her you guys that call her your atf I was told the same kinds of things privately that you said in your post and worse. I think its important that this information is told on the board for others to see and not be kept secret so she can charge some of us more than others and to know what they are getting besides some good moaning and squeeling, real or not. I don't see street walkers and never have and never will but think you make a good point. You are used to seeing them and sounds like you have the street knowledge to undersatand that kind of games they play and what prices they are worth. She might charge a guy like you less because she knows you won't fall for her games and can't get more from you if she tries. If you are getting her for a good price then you are one of those I heard from that think they are getting their moneys worth at a good low price. I think the way you compare her to a Jaguar is more of a good comparison than anything, because my ride just came with the same kind of problems as a Jaguar I once owned. The problem with Jaguars are you know you are going to have some problems with them when you buy one but you want the nice ride so you pay for it anyways. You end up surprised by some of the strange problems that they are known for. The repair bills can be very expensive and you can be waiting forever for the parts to come in and have to wait a long time to have that ride again. I even remember one time that my mechanic hinting that if I pay him more he can get me back on the road faster, haha.

I have been in this hobby long enough to understand how this works and have seen price differences between clients with other providers because they were more interested in seeing one kind of client then another. Maybe she is more comfortable with street guys and that is why she sees you so often at a low price. With Jade it is more than just a difference in pricing though. I am not use to the street walker games and I don't like worrying about what I say to a provider and what she says to others about me which is what made me upset when my name came up from two of you about something that should have never been talked about. If someone had told me to be careful about what I say to her then I would not have seen her at all or would have kept my visits with her shorter and about business instead of looking for some good companionship and sex. The reason I am on this board is to exchange information and not to promote or help a provider get as much as she can from some of her clients and to use that information to make a good decision on who to see and to help others do the same thing. Some of you that see her regularly are helping her more than your fellow hobbyists and that really upsets me. And I don't want to see her again and I am not trying to keep anyone from seeing her but if you do see her you should know what you are getting with this one.

I am not posting anything else about her after this and do not want to start another soap opera over another game playing escort that doesn't deserve to be invited back to my home again when I know others that I feel more comfortable with and know not to play those kinds games with anyone and treats everyone the same. And that is thanks to some of you guys that report honestly on this board.[/QUOTE]

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After reading the last couple posts about Jade, it got me thinking. Why is there always so much drama on this board regarding Jade? The truth is, Jade has one major flaw that causes her a lot of aggravation. She is too good at GFE! She is so sweet and accommodating during your sessions together, that it is hard to remember that it's all just a fantasy. When she is with you, she dedicates 100% of her attention to you. I have been with her for up to six hours and she never so much as looked at her phone. Try to get any another 20 something yo to do that! Yes, she makes you feel like she really is your girlfriend and I admit, that I myself have to fight to remind myself that I am just another client. Why are you faulting her for that? She has never tried to manipulate me and trust me, I would make a very easy target for her and she knows it! She is really just is trying to give you what she believes that you are paying for, 'a girlfriend experience' and if she likes you, to get you to keep coming back. What the hell is wrong with that? Her goal is to keep good a book of consistent, reliable regular's, who treat her respectfully and don't get caught up in all this drama and bull shit. Your goal should be to make that list, as I have been fortunate enough to make. She is looking to be a low volume, high quality provider and believes to do that she needs to provide the best GF experience. Jezz, I sound like her sales agent.

Regarding her rates, I regularly see girls that charge a lot more than Jades rates and provide far less enjoyable service. I have told her many times that she could get more money for her time, yet she has never raised her rates. I don't know what she charged you, but I am certain that you are getting more than you monies worth with Jade, unless you treated her poorly or disrespectfully and then you probably got exactly what you deserved.

To question Jades looks is ridicules; she is a 10 any way you look at it. You could cover her entire body with tats and piercings and she would still be a 10. I wish I could post a picture of her here, you readers that have never had the pleasure of meeting her would be shocked how beautiful that she is. I am 48 yo businessman and have never been a fan of tattoos or piercings and have none of my own, however I find her work to be tasteful and artistic. It actually complements her exotic looks. I would be proud to take Jade to any of my business functions, shows, or diner meetings. She is a true natural beauty.

Those of us that see her, could care less why she is in this business? We just feel lucky that she is. If every word she ever told me was a lie, I would not care in the least. I am paying for a GFE and she is providing a GFE and then some. To question her motives for doing what she is doing is just insane. We all know why she is doing it, for the fucking money dumbass. She can make more money in one afternoon doing this then all week working at the GAP. If you have a problem with that, you are in the wrong hobby. Every provider has a hard luck reason for doing what they are doing. What do you expect her to say, 'So I can meet assholes like you'? Most providers carry a certain level of guilt and most will make some attempt to justify this lifestyle to their clients, just like I try to justify my part in this seedy hobby. I never ask a provider why they are I this hobby. Lets leave the analyzing up to the shrinks.

Although all this shit just makes it easier for us, her regulars remain at the top of her list, I hate to see her bashed on this site. She does not deserve it. It is truly sad that this young lady, that for whatever reason believes that she must make her money this way and still goes out of her way to make her clients have a true girlfriend experience, has to continually be subjected to negativity from this site. I have lost count of how many times that I have seen her and I can tell you, she has never been less than perfect for me. Oh yea, she was 30 minutes late one time, that *****! I should have written a two, page post bashing her for that! WTF is with these haters?

I think that the problem is with those few who get too emotionally involved and then get hurt when she does not extend the affection past the date. They push too hard and she is forced to stop seeing them. They get hurt and think that the answer is to bash her on this site. The truth is that they need to grow up and see this for what it is. You are a client and you will never be any more than that with her or any other provider. If you can't handle that, then go to match. Com. Your not looking for a GFE your looking for a GF.

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The purpose of this Forum is to provide for the exchange of information between Men on the subject of finding Women for Sex.

Let's get back to the subject.

Thank You,

Jackson[/blue]

[QUOTE=FunFilmmaker;1601837]Hello all. Well I've gone back to college to change careers. Needless to say, living on student loans and part time work has put the hobby to a near halt. So I'm looking for a provider that has DFK and DATY and CFS on the menu. My budget is 70 for 30. Any suggestions?[/QUOTE][url]Http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3918-Streetwalker-Reports[/url]

[QUOTE=Ziggy1524; 1658928]After reading the last couple posts about Jade, it got me thinking. Why is there always so much drama on this board regarding Jade? The truth is, Jade has one major flaw that causes her a lot of aggravation. She is too good at GFE! She is so sweet and accommodating during your sessions together, that it is hard to remember that it's all just a fantasy. When she is with you, she dedicates 100% of her attention to you. I have been with her for up to six hours and she never so much as looked at her phone. Try to get any another 20 something yo to do that! Yes, she makes you feel like she really is your girlfriend and I admit, that I myself have to fight to remind myself that I am just another client. Why are you faulting her for that? She has never tried to manipulate me and trust me, I would make a very easy target for her and she knows it! She is really just is trying to give you what she believes that you are paying for, 'a girlfriend experience' and if she likes you, to get you to keep coming back. What the hell is wrong with that? Her goal is to keep good a book of consistent, reliable regular's, who treat her respectfully and don't get caught up in all this drama and bull shit. Your goal should be to make that list, as I have been fortunate enough to make. She is looking to be a low volume, high quality provider and believes to do that she needs to provide the best GF experience. Jezz, I sound like her sales agent.

Regarding her rates, I regularly see girls that charge a lot more than Jades rates and provide far less enjoyable service. I have told her many times that she could get more money for her time, yet she has never raised her rates. I don't know what she charged you, but I am certain that you are getting more than you monies worth with Jade, unless you treated her poorly or disrespectfully and then you probably got exactly what you deserved.

To question Jades looks is ridicules; she is a 10 any way you look at it. You could cover her entire body with tats and piercings and she would still be a 10. I wish I could post a picture of her here, you readers that have never had the pleasure of meeting her would be shocked how beautiful that she is. I am 48 yo businessman and have never been a fan of tattoos or piercings and have none of my own, however I find her work to be tasteful and artistic. It actually complements her exotic looks. I would be proud to take Jade to any of my business functions, shows, or diner meetings. She is a true natural beauty.

Blah blah.

I think that the problem is with those few who get too emotionally involved and then get hurt when she does not extend the affection past the date. They push too hard and she is forced to stop seeing them. They get hurt and think that the answer is to bash her on this site. The truth is that they need to grow up and see this for what it is. You are a client and you will never be any more than that with her or any other provider. If you can't handle that, then go to match. Com. Your not looking for a GFE your looking for a GF.[/QUOTE]Wow bro you really take shit hobby shit hard huh?

Guys are like "yea I fuck her" "she robbed me" you go typing novels and shit like that one MILF who said I was a thug and still was going to fuck me when I called her after

Yes, I tend to get carried away when I write. I'll try to dumb it down for you, in the future.

[QUOTE=TRowePrice; 1659083]Wow bro you really take shit hobby shit hard huh?

Guys are like "yea I fuck her" "she robbed me" you go typing novels and shit like that one MILF who said I was a thug and still was going to fuck me when I called her after[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Riidii;1607366]Is Hanna Banana and Tanya the same girl?[/QUOTE]No but they work / ed together. Hanna is a 30ish blond, Tanya is a 23 ish brunette with awesome tight body. Haven't heard from either in some time.

Agreed boss man, standing down!

[QUOTE=Admin2; 1659005][blue]Gentlemen,

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Let's get back to the subject.

Thank You,

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I started to put this in the Negative category but thought it might be of interest to someone interested in seeing the real one.

I did some scouting last night for my next adventure I had planned for next week sometime when I saw her ad. I liked the pics a lot, which reminded me of someone I used to see. From past mixed experience on Eros I figured this was bait and switch but made the call anyway. Quoted me 300 and was nice on the phone but not willing to chat. I had an appointment down the road from her this morning and decided to take a chance.

She is in a decent hotel off I-drive on the the 6th floor. She answered and had it not been for other people passing in the hall I would have laughed out loud and left. I stepped inside and she started talking right away, gave me a hug. Then it got weird. I turned around and put my hand on the door and said I'm sorry but I changed my mind (not what I really wanted to say but she was nice). She then grabbed my arm and asked me what was wrong. I decided to just tell her like it was, that she wasn't close to the girl in the pics. We ended up talking for a few minutes. She apologized and offered to negotiate but I had lost any interest by that point.

She actually seemed like a nice person and I suspect works for an agency that put up the smoking hot pics for her. She is closer to 30, is thicker than in the pics but not fat and has a fairly pretty face and is Asian. The room was clean and like I said she did seem nice enough. Might be of interest to some of you? But be sure and negotiate.

For you guys that are new to this, make sure you go in with a rehearsed back up plan, like; oopps, forgot my wallet, be right back. Hell even if you go through with it and its terrible (most of us have done that at least once, if not twice). And then come back and report to help us out here on the board.

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Back to my search. I'm curious about this one [url]http://orlando.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/profressional-beautiful-mature-young-lady-21/7034436[/url] Anyone seen her?

P8

There was once a girl I-4, 436 area Named Tanya (had Hanna's) old number. Great gal, looking for any / all info anyone could give me on her or to contact her, as I'd love to see her again.

Thanks

Lokm.

PS.

Also looking for a new girl, closer to Sanford-Deland area the better. Normally prefer young, thin / toned, pale, tattooed, and pierced (tongue etc) , girls with incall (and lack of a gag reflex.)

Thanks