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I disagree
[QUOTE=RonM;4162396]Seems like S. A. Is a lot more trouble for very little or no reward.[/QUOTE]I'm going to have to disagree with you there. Setting up an arrangement just takes a different mindset than hiring an escort.
Yes, there are plenty of pros that are on SA, some are obvious agency girls who are looking for side business, or want to find their own unicorn that allows them some more financial freedom for less effort than taking a bunch of appointments every day. But others are girls who consider themselves non-pros who haven't ever advertised as an escort before. They want to get paid for hanging out or sleeping with guys that have money who they find moderately attractive. It really is a dating site where the expectation is that there's likely going to be a price associated with the relationship. Personally, I've seen several girls from SA over the years. Some who are up front and tell me how much they expect per meet or per month, and others who I've managed to see and sleep with repeatedly where the only price was a nice dinner with a bottle of wine.
The key is knowing what you want and being able to read the cues that a girl will put in her profile. I've found that the girls who are solely focused on money and gifts tend to have shorter profiles, or have tagged them with things like "Luxury Lifestyle. " The girls who want relationships with older successful men tend to have longer profiles and they read more like you'd find on a regular dating site. The ones who are really "escorts" and want money, but are in denial about exchanging their bodies for cash will very quickly respond with questions about what you can offer as far as an allowance. Those who want the relationship will chat with you more like someone you met on [URL]match.com[/URL].
If you want more of the transactional experience with girls on SA, you just need to be able to make them feel confident that you will be able to provide for them. They're on SA because they want regular income from "wealthy" men. If they think you're likely to be a one-and-done appointment with a pay-per-meet allowance, you're not going to get a lot of responses. So, even if your goal is to hook up with as many younger hotties as possible, you can't come across that way. And the ones who want relationships want to know that you're well-off financially because many are looking for someone with money to marry.
Either way, you have to adjust your approach and yes, it is more work than just calling an agency or texting a girl from a list. However, it can definitely be worth it, you just have to want to and enjoy playing a different type of game.
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Pros
Following up on my other post. Couple here that are definitely pros:
Babybella_95.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/80ae6435-2d27-459a-b2ed-c2c9fc9c393f[/URL]
Met with her admitted that she's done some private porn work in the past. Talked for like 15 min in a coffee shop before coming to an arrangement and heading to my place. She texts me every now and again, but goes dark with no reply when I say that my funds are low.
Gabby8318.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/53eac07b-5371-4c1c-be5d-84fae9529b4b[/URL]
Definitely a pro, regularly works with a rather well-known agency. Went dark when I said that I preferred a PPM after she had asked for a monthly one.
Chicagos.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/885e703c-b574-4d88-b90f-7db6868cf8ad[/URL]
She's been talked about before. Won't admit that she's a pro, but she is. Never actually met because her messages throw off a weird vibe, but whenever she's low on cash, she hits me up and tries again to set up a meeting.
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It is a game
Steam,
Totally true and wise words.
Yes, it is easy to call an escort where both of you are explicit about what YOU want, exchange her service for your cash and be on your way.
It is a lot different to have enough game to finesse the relationship to get what you want in exchange for what she wants. It might be about the cash, but it also about the intimacy, feeling wanted and desired, exploring new things (kink / taboo ideas), and ability to connect with someone on more than a transnational level.
I, for one, get a lot of pleasure at being good at this type of game and interchange.
[QUOTE=SteamTrain98;4163375]I'm going to have to disagree with you there. Setting up an arrangement just takes a different mindset than hiring an escort.
Yes, there are plenty of pros that are on SA, some are obvious agency girls who are looking for side business, or want to find their own unicorn that allows them some more financial freedom for less effort than taking a bunch of appointments every day. But others are girls who consider themselves non-pros who haven't ever advertised as an escort before. They want to get paid for hanging out or sleeping with guys that have money who they find moderately attractive. It really is a dating site where the expectation is that there's likely going to be a price associated with the relationship. Personally, I've seen several girls from SA over the years. Some who are up front and tell me how much they expect per meet or per month, and others who I've managed to see and sleep with repeatedly where the only price was a nice dinner with a bottle of wine.
The key is knowing what you want and being able to read the cues that a girl will put in her profile. I've found that the girls who are solely focused on money and gifts tend to have shorter profiles, or have tagged them with things like "Luxury Lifestyle. " The girls who want relationships with older successful men tend to have longer profiles and they read more like you'd find on a regular dating site. The ones who are really "escorts" and want money, but are in denial about exchanging their bodies for cash will very quickly respond with questions about what you can offer as far as an allowance. Those who want the relationship will chat with you more like someone you met on [URL]match.com[/URL].
If you want more of the transactional experience with girls on SA, you just need to be able to make them feel confident that you will be able to provide for them. They're on SA because they want regular income from "wealthy" men. If they think you're likely to be a one-and-done appointment with a pay-per-meet allowance, you're not going to get a lot of responses. So, even if your goal is to hook up with as many younger hotties as possible, you can't come across that way. And the ones who want relationships want to know that you're well-off financially because many are looking for someone with money to marry.
Either way, you have to adjust your approach and yes, it is more work than just calling an agency or texting a girl from a list. However, it can definitely be worth it, you just have to want to and enjoy playing a different type of game.[/QUOTE]
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Gabby
I had some message interaction with her. When it got down to setting the meet she said she wants to date / dinner / travel. Sorry dear. Not for me. Time to move along.
Randolph.
[QUOTE=SteamTrain98;4163411]Following up on my other post. Couple here that are definitely pros:
Babybella_95.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/80ae6435-2d27-459a-b2ed-c2c9fc9c393f[/URL]
Met with her admitted that she's done some private porn work in the past. Talked for like 15 min in a coffee shop before coming to an arrangement and heading to my place. She texts me every now and again, but goes dark with no reply when I say that my funds are low.
Gabby8318.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/53eac07b-5371-4c1c-be5d-84fae9529b4b[/URL]
Definitely a pro, regularly works with a rather well-known agency. Went dark when I said that I preferred a PPM after she had asked for a monthly one.
Chicagos.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/885e703c-b574-4d88-b90f-7db6868cf8ad[/URL]
She's been talked about before. Won't admit that she's a pro, but she is. Never actually met because her messages throw off a weird vibe, but whenever she's low on cash, she hits me up and tries again to set up a meeting.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=RonM;4161162]If you don't know one of the girls really well I wouldn't do it. Having two girls to play with is great. If you don't know one or both of the girls a threesome could go south really fast. No matter how gorgeous both girls look. This girl insists her friend join you and this girl? Um, No way.[/QUOTE]I am trying to get just her at the moment. She is smoking hot, and so is her blonde friend, just a bit worried some type of scam. They are near Algonquin area.
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Better safe
[QUOTE=Eternalchaoz;4163702]I am trying to get just her at the moment. She is smoking hot, and so is her blonde friend, just a bit worried some type of scam. They are near Algonquin area.[/QUOTE]Better safe than sorry.
If they can take down mr Kraft they can take you down.
I once had a lady show up to my hotel room in Detroit one night w / her friend. I was in an embassy suite so there was a separate bedroom. They insisted I let her stay good thing I didn't let them in he room. After some words I told them as far as I was concerned they knocked on my door trying to get in.
Oh they also offered a 3 some.
Nope. A few weeks later a guy I knew through a now defunked site told me a guy got robbed my someone that seemed like my date.
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[QUOTE=Trogon;4164160]Better safe than sorry.
If they can take down mr Kraft they can take you down.
I once had a lady show up to my hotel room in Detroit one night w / her friend. I was in an embassy suite so there was a separate bedroom. They insisted I let her stay good thing I didn't let them in he room. After some words I told them as far as I was concerned they knocked on my door trying to get in.
Oh they also offered a 3 some.
Nope. A few weeks later a guy I knew through a now defunked site told me a guy got robbed my someone that seemed like my date.[/QUOTE]Would you feel comfortable if they are willing to meet for dinner first? These girls are fine meeting for coffee or dinner to discuss arrangement.
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[QUOTE=Eternalchaoz;4164169]Would you feel comfortable if they are willing to meet for dinner first? These girls are fine meeting for coffee or dinner to discuss arrangement.[/QUOTE]You could always put a small gopro type camera in the room, and if you are robbed you could use the video to your advantage.
I'm not saying call the police, but you do have evidence. Sometimes, but rarely, reverse number searches work. Or, you could text her the portion of the video with the evidence.
((I had to call the cops on a hooker once in Ohio, she left a message on my answering machine trying to extort money out of me (she had my license plate number). The fool left her name and phone number on the machine. The cop was actually really nice (the encounter never actually happened, I got as far as the motel parking lot and felt uncomfortable, plus it was just over the Michigan line), and SHE called the ***** back and really reamed her.)).
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Dreamgirl Jenny
This is a much delayed post.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/e3f9a76f-fef0-1365-2144-2a5c4aa7845d[/URL]
Jenny is the best lay I have had in years. BBFS, no rush, true GFE. Fucked the hell out of me, and when she was done, did it again and again. Incredible. I bought a vibrator sampler package off amazon, with beads and other stuff, and used it on her too. She was really into it, and loud, too.
But she is batshit crazy. Nuts. I had to block her form my phone. After spending four or five hours at a hot tub suite on 95th street in Evergreen Park, we left for the evening and continued to text and sext and whatever. Within a day or two she wanted her and her kid and her cats (yuck) to move into my house. That's when she got blocked. 300 was the damage, well worth every cent, but damn, she's looney toons. You have been warned.
This was right before Christmas BTW.
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[QUOTE=PauFord;4163346]SA is definitely a hassle. But to say there's little or no reward would be 100% untrue.[/QUOTE]I've had so much luck there I had to let my account expire. I was going broke!
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Chicagos
[QUOTE=Randolph;4163632]I had some message interaction with her. When it got down to setting the meet she said she wants to date / dinner / travel. Sorry dear. Not for me. Time to move along.
Randolph.[/QUOTE]I saw her a couple of years ago. She is as skinny as she looks in her photos. She hardly talked and basically just laid there. I can't recommend her unless she has changed, which I hope she has.
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[QUOTE=Eternalchaoz;4164169]Would you feel comfortable if they are willing to meet for dinner first? These girls are fine meeting for coffee or dinner to discuss arrangement.[/QUOTE]That's a good idea. Ask if they'll meet you for a drink or dinner first.
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You link it wrong
[QUOTE=FScott;4160228]Anyone have any experience with her? Trying to set something up for this afternoon or tomorrow. She's in Ukrainian Village.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/messages/inbox/f7708d9b-401c-4500-b195-4905609a26ce[/URL]
Scott.[/QUOTE]You sent the link to your message, not her profile page.
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Gets out of control fast
[QUOTE=Chicago41;4164313]I've had so much luck there I had to let my account expire. I was going broke![/QUOTE]Same here, 3 months into it I was in deep financially but was just killing it on autopilot. Luckily I got banned so I didn't have to make the choice for myself, which I may not have. Spent a couple of months with the girls I had already connected with, which was about half the monthly costs, so I justified to myself getting back on the site (surprisingly easy after being banned for life) Hopefully can keep up the month on / month off routine or something similar otherwise going to have to sell my condo.
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[QUOTE=ChitownGuy321;4164346]You sent the link to your message, not her profile page.[/QUOTE]Here she is;.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/dc6d12b8-727f-40e4-b6a4-03720e8c5da3[/URL]