Massage Parlor Reports

[QUOTE=Jpkhckwrth;5582889]What in the holy hell is going on with this?

[URL]https://massagebyangels.com/[/URL]

There's an attached youtube channel with like 100+ videos all promoting the whole thing, including like a dozen "client" interviews about how great the place is. The website looks like they spent $1000's on it. It even advertises a "talk show" that runs on some local cable access channel.

The price is $200 for 30 min, listed in big bright colors on the website. It'll let you book a $1000 VIP 100 session if you want. There are two locations, one in Stanton and one in FV.

Is this a scam at literally every level, from the customers to the workers to anyone who puts money into this "franchise?" I don't understand how this can even operate with a massive sign asking for hundreds of dollars at a time. This is so blatant it genuinely confuses me.[/QUOTE]First of all, all franchisors are required to have a document called an FDD (franchise disclosure document). It discloses everything from how much investment you need to make, to what expectations you need to meet, to financials. They are all on file with the SEC. They have no such document (I searched the database). Second of all I own a high end franchise spa. They say you can buy a franchise with an investment of $98 k. There is absolutely no freaking way. Mine cost over $300 k just for construction and I do t have a huge location (8 rooms). Massage therapists earning $120 k? Hell no. Not for legit massage anyway. Therapists at high end resort spas around here get $40 per massage and they'll do 4 or 5 massages a day. That doesn't add up to anywhere near $120 k. "Franchise owners" making $300 k first year is laughable. Anyone who's ever owned a franchise of any kind will tell you the first 2-3 years are pure hell. You bleed red. Their numbers don't add up. Franchisors don't build locations or supply employees to you a franchisee. Law actually dictates that they have to be separate entities and the franchisor can't have any influence or involvement in the franchisee's hiring practices. Nothing in what they say is in line with how franchising works. Not to mention their massage pricing is way out of line with even the highest end legit massage pricing. Hell, you can go to the Montage in Laguna Beach and get an hour luxury massage for less than what this place quotes.

What they're looking for is front men to run the shell businesses for the enterprise so the real kingpins can hide in Hong Kong outside of the reach of LE.

[QUOTE=RTDriver;5580311]On a recent Sunday afternoon I stopped by Stars Therapy on Glassell..[/QUOTE]Thanks for report, confirmed I parked down the ways a bit and did a walk by, there appeared to be LE vehicle with someone either snapping photos or vids. I just kept walking. For those that got to experience this place during the good times it will always provide legendary stories!

[QUOTE=MrMike05;5581203]There's two island spas in Orange.[/QUOTE]Its Tustin and Chapman.

First of all, just want to say that this forum is amazing and it really helps those who are nervous about their first time find some quality guidance. So thank you everybody for their participation!

Want to ask if anybody has recommendations for good FS spots that don't charge escort prices. I've been to Airbody and LP a few times and enjoyed the massage (surprise surprise) and HJ experiences, but looking to move up to the next step. Would also prefer someone in their 20's since I am also. From perusing this thread, I can see that Tulip and New Moon are solid choices, but any masseuses or spots in Westminster / Garden Grove or surrounding cities would be great!

[QUOTE=Wireless91910;5576657]Another monger told me a long time ago to "Grab 'them by the pussy. You can do anything. ".

I wonder what happen to him.[/QUOTE]Didn't he become president?

[QUOTE=TennisRacket;5583752]First of all, just want to say that this forum is amazing and it really helps those who are nervous about their first time find some quality guidance. So thank you everybody for their participation!

Want to ask if anybody has recommendations for good FS spots that don't charge escort prices. I've been to Airbody and LP a few times and enjoyed the massage (surprise surprise) and HJ experiences, but looking to move up to the next step. Would also prefer someone in their 20's since I am also. From perusing this thread, I can see that Tulip and New Moon are solid choices, but any masseuses or spots in Westminster / Garden Grove or surrounding cities would be great![/QUOTE]When you find somebody in their early 20's we would all like to know. I'll send you all my notes of the last 10 years of my experiences so you won't have to do any of the legwork. 😁 The only one I can't tell you about is the two midgets an the ball gag👍.

Hi All. Travelled in from NYC and looking for a Vietnamese provider. FS not needed.

Obviously there's the forum for it, but If anyone needs any Queens recommendations or anywhere touching queens in NYC area I can certainly help out!

[QUOTE=NutterHoeMan;5583373]Thanks for report, confirmed I parked down the ways a bit and did a walk by, there appeared to be LE vehicle with someone either snapping photos or vids. I just kept walking. For those that got to experience this place during the good times it will always provide legendary stories![/QUOTE]Just curious what vehicle you saw that looked like law enforcement?

And what made you think there was some type of surveillance being conducted?

I thought I did a decent scope before parking and getting out of my car.

So what exactly spooked you? I am curious what I missed?

Ok so I've had the opportunity to visit Bamboo and Air Body now. Good service at both, and I'd say both are definitely repeatable. This hobby causes such dilemmas though. LOL. The following three are all basically the same price point.

Bamboo: Good massage with HJ finish from "decent looking" Asian girl in her 30's or 40's. Some UTC access which apparently gets a little better with repeat visits based on reports here. Limited privacy with the curtained rooms.

Air Body: Also good massage with HJ finish. Younger and cuter girls than Bamboo, but less access. Difficult to penetrate the bra (but not impossible). Nearly impossible to penetrate the panties (some reports that it gets a little better with repeat visits). Slightly better privacy than Bamboo.

New Spa (Cypress): Good massage as well, and also HJ finish. Older, less attractive girls, but they put up no resistance to you lifting their their shirts / bras up and pulling their pants down. No problems roaming everywhere. Also located very close to home for me. A bit more expensive than the others at $40/30 min. Tip has never been asked for or discussed there but I always give $40.

If I had an equal choice to visit any of the three on any given day, it would be a tough choice. There's something intriguing in visiting a place like Air Body where there's an unknown element of "can I get a little bit further this time?" I like the girls at Air Body better but access to the goods is a lot harder there. Sometimes it's also nice to know exactly what you're going to get when you walk in, like at New you just know you're going to get stroked and you'll have free access to everywhere.

[QUOTE=Timk1919;5584237]Hi All. Travelled in from NYC and looking for a Vietnamese provider. FS not needed.

Obviously there's the forum for it, but If anyone needs any Queens recommendations or anywhere touching queens in NYC area I can certainly help out![/QUOTE]No t sure this area has many Vietnamese ladies. There's not too many folks of that background unfortunately.

[QUOTE=Timk1919;5584237]Hi All. Travelled in from NYC and looking for a Vietnamese provider. FS not needed.

Obviously there's the forum for it, but If anyone needs any Queens recommendations or anywhere touching queens in NYC area I can certainly help out![/QUOTE]Check out King's Spa in Laguna Hills. Mostly Viet.

What happened? The get busted?

[QUOTE=July1714;5584938]What happened? The get busted?[/QUOTE]They got shut down by cops late August.

Has anybody had any experience with this place? Just curious since I get wax at the place down stairs, Little Beauty shop.

[QUOTE=Jpkhckwrth;5582889]What in the holy hell is going on with this?

[URL]https://massagebyangels.com/[/URL]

There's an attached youtube channel with like 100+ videos all promoting the whole thing, including like a dozen "client" interviews about how great the place is. The website looks like they spent $1000's on it. It even advertises a "talk show" that runs on some local cable access channel.

The price is $200 for 30 min, listed in big bright colors on the website. It'll let you book a $1000 VIP 100 session if you want. There are two locations, one in Stanton and one in FV.

Is this a scam at literally every level, from the customers to the workers to anyone who puts money into this "franchise?" I don't understand how this can even operate with a massive sign asking for hundreds of dollars at a time. This is so blatant it genuinely confuses me.[/QUOTE]They started out in Costa mesa back in the early 2000's. They built up that "high end"exclusive" image. The girls in the video are hot. Would love to F the 2 blondes. And the youtube videos with the mongers, its laughable. If you want to pay 25 to 50% more for your massage, and then get rebuffed and rejected on the flip, go ahead and visit Angel Spa. I'm sure these girls will charge something north $200 for a fuck. Their scam is to find some rich unsuspecting sucker to buy one of their shops for a six figur number. You know, I just want to fuck. That's it.