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[QUOTE=SlickJJ;5575145]Anyone have any experiences in the spas in Orange? There are so many to choose from. Thai spa, day orange spa, island. Spa, royal spa, nature spa and the list goes on. I'm going to hit a couple but seeing if there's any favs out there before I waste some cash. There a few that have been mentioned but haven't seen anything about others.[/QUOTE]That Kelly is pretty hot!! I recommend.
[QUOTE=NiceGuy99;5576064]Please tell us more, Skinny.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the tip Skinny. Can more than a HJ be had there?
[QUOTE=HowdyDoody32;5576312]I never touch a provider without asking first. Even if the massage is getting pretty hot (like massaging your balls or your butt crack) I will always ask "May I?" with a groping gesture.[/QUOTE]Agree 100% . The only exceptions are places like Sunnywell where the providers are very clearly nude under their tight dresses and give you a BIG (full body press) hug. Or Tulip where the provider puts her leg up on the table and moves your hand to her pussy. Of course these are not massage AMPs, they are sex AMPs. At my favorite massage AMP, Bamboo, I always ask and the answer varies, but I respect that.
Another monger told me a long time ago to "Grab 'them by the pussy. You can do anything. ".
I wonder what happen to him.
[QUOTE=NiceGuy99;5576388]Agree 100% . The only exceptions are places like Sunnywell where the providers are very clearly nude under their tight dresses and give you a BIG (full body press) hug. Or Tulip where the provider puts her leg up on the table and moves your hand to her pussy. Of course these are not massage AMPs, they are sex AMPs. At my favorite massage AMP, Bamboo, I always ask and the answer varies, but I respect that.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=HowdyDoody32;5576312]I never touch a provider without asking first. Even if the massage is getting pretty hot (like massaging your balls or your butt crack) I will always ask "May I?" with a groping gesture. But even that's rare. If a massage becomes really sensual, it's just a matter of time before you hear the words, "What you want? (grabbing your cock)" or "How much? (grabbing your cock). " I've never had to touch a provider to get things going. LOL even at M&A (Grimmy knows lmfao see his reply to this I can't believe that happened at M&A). Speaking of M&A I wonder if that one asian chick, with the bra padding, that I used to dump loads in still works there.
One time there was this chick at a granny shack in Bellflower I didn't even have to ask. She grabbed both of my hands and put them on her thighs first. Then, since I didn't resist, put them on her butt. Then put them on her tits (and I was still face down at this point which was quite uncomfortable). Next thing you know she's fucking my brains out BB lmfao. This chick was old but it was great sex and one of my favorite experiences in a parlor.
There's this one place in Downey, a foot place near Kaiser, no private rooms as far as I know, all curtains (I think place is called Sunshine Foot Spa). You ever get anything there Grimmy? I never have. The girl at the door is friggin cute but I don't think she does massages. They even put a towel over your head so you can't see your provider. Even there the girls will brush by your cock and your testicles occasionally. I would not grope them.
So you should always ask before touching your provider even if they do flybys with your private parts. A simple "May I?" works. M&A and others are some of the exceptions because those are whorehouses![/QUOTE]I don't necessarily agree a ovine to ask first, but it depends on the place. I've actually had AMP girls tell me that they were scared to do anything because I didn't touch first. I will start when I'm face down innocently touching her lower leg / calf. When she doesn't move away I'll go up a little higher, and continue to where I'm usually up to the butt while I'm still face down. I never go straight fe the butt or immediately try to reach under the clothes. It's very rare that they resist, probably no more than 2 or 3 times in all of my mongering life, with that weird time at M&A being one of them. I wonder if they had just gotten raided or something.
If you’re at an Asian massage place where you “might” get extras, then yeah it makes sense to ask first. I haven’t tried bamboo yet but from what I’ve read that’s a place where asking first makes sense if you’re at a place that known whorehouse or jack shack then you just touch first, not necessarily going right up the skirt at first but starting subtly as I mentioned. Or if you’re at a place like Havana, shit, the girl is bare ass naked from the get go so of course touching is ok. But at just about any place, if you’ve gotten up to a bare thigh and she hasn’t moved away or told you no, then it’s game on.
I don't know about that foot massage place in Downey as I've never been there. I dont live in Downey anymore, but if I go up there now it's usually for Downey Therapy or Havana. DT is an old reliable place that I used to frequent when I lived up there. That's where I literally had girls tell me, 25 years ago, that I needed to touch first or the girls would be reluctant to do anything. Downey has at least 6 MPs that I know of and most of them have been around for 20+ years.
[QUOTE=LiftHerUp;5576230]I finally got into Cloud. Like Pacom555 maybe three weeks ago, I got Cindy, and I got the FS vibe. Unlike Pacom, I thought the massage was fantastic, and unlike Pacom, I did not get all the access touching, though I did get a nice HJ.
There was no discussion of tip. Thinking I'd get FS I'd put $. 2 on the little table. After I was all finished and Cindy had left the room, I cut it in half, overtipping for a HJ but I wanted to acknowledge the great massage. Cindy came back in the room, no complaints. She works every day, poor girl.
I'm guessing nearly all the City of Orange places avoid FS, but allow HJ's. Wonder if they've cut a deal with LE about this. Just musing.
Lift Her Up.[/QUOTE]Being in the massage industry (mine is fully legit) I know pretty much how it works. Rest assured, LE knows exactly what goes on in any given MP. It depends on the city. Some cities take a "don't poke the bear" approach. They know if they raid a place all they'll do is scatter everything like flies and it will just end up reopening elsewhere. Most police would rather have stuff going on in an MP where it's somewhat contained than in say a cheap motel where there's usually drugs and other various crimes going on. So in a city like Downey that has at least 6 MPs where it's well known you can get your brains fucked out, the police pretty much leave them alone as long as they stay low profile and don't draw a lot of public complaints. The cities that take this approach are pretty obvious. They're the ones where certain MPs have been in continuous operation for year and you never hear about raids or anything. Some cities like La Palma recently got rid of all of their MPs by having city council pull their business licenses.
[QUOTE=Grimmy23;5576670]...I've actually had AMP girls tell me that they were scared to do anything because I didn't touch first. I will start when I'm face down innocently touching her lower leg / calf. When she doesn't move away I'll go up a little higher, and continue to where I'm usually up to the butt while I'm still face down. I never go straight fe the butt or immediately try to reach under the clothes.[/QUOTE]Initially when I touch them it's to communicate that I'm safe, and not LE. Not to be groping them. For example, a new girl in a place I know provides extras, I'll do pretty much what Grimmy describes. Or in a place that's new to me, that reviews tell me there's extras, same deal.
If I'm there for massage first, I don't touch while I'm enjoying the massage. Once it goes to tease mode, I touch gradually to communicate that I'm liking the tease. And that it's safe for her to go there. But gradually and respectfully. If it's a situation where I have no idea if extras are provided but I'm on a recon mission, I might touch her calf, ask if it's ok. I've found that with some girls, they progressively get more aggressive as I get closer to their ass and pussy. Touch the pussy then suddenly they're going for the goods.
Once it's game on and she's got Mr. Happy in hand, if I want to grope or go utc I might ask if I'm not sure if that's ok. Then respect her limits and tip accordingly. Behaving like a gentleman gets you better service in the long run.
[QUOTE=ButtLickr;5576300]Does Suphrattas offer FS or is it just hjs? Also how much should I be tipping to get FS?[/QUOTE]Do you ever offer up any info, or are you just looking to get your butt licked?
[QUOTE=Meshugga;5577458]Initially when I touch them it's to communicate that I'm safe, and not LE. Not to be groping them. For example, a new girl in a place I know provides extras, I'll do pretty much what Grimmy describes. Or in a place that's new to me, that reviews tell me there's extras, same deal.
If I'm there for massage first, I don't touch while I'm enjoying the massage. Once it goes to tease mode, I touch gradually to communicate that I'm liking the tease. And that it's safe for her to go there. But gradually and respectfully. If it's a situation where I have no idea if extras are provided but I'm on a recon mission, I might touch her calf, ask if it's ok. I've found that with some girls, they progressively get more aggressive as I get closer to their ass and pussy. Touch the pussy then suddenly they're going for the goods.
Once it's game on and she's got Mr. Happy in hand, if I want to grope or go utc I might ask if I'm not sure if that's ok. Then respect her limits and tip accordingly. Behaving like a gentleman gets you better service in the long run.[/QUOTE]It doesn't help anyone to be an ass and just grab and not respect boundaries. These are still human beings. Touching communicates why you're there, and many of them are even looking for you to make that first touch. If they're teasing around the crack, lift up a little to see if they go under. Most of the time they will. They need to know that you're not LE and these are the types of things that make them feel safe.
I'm not sure what is offered beyond a HJ. HJ and a good massage is all I'm looking for.
So far Annie, Wendy and Heidi. They are all very good at what they do. I'll try to meet all the therapist before I start repeating.
[QUOTE=NiceGuy99;5576064]Please tell us more, Skinny.[/QUOTE]
This is a half question half report cause I haven't posted in a bit. Maybe it's because I took sometime off but these pass couple weeks I've been insatiable. Last night hit up Paradise GC. Took Sky to the VIP (I know wrong forum but this is part of the story) said she didn't remember me from a couple years ago. Fucked like a champ, really tested my cardio, and she told me she'll definitely remember me then after I left I kinda felt like going back for round 2 but decided against it. So this morning I went and saw Kiki at air body.
Kiki: cute girl. Solid body. Lackluster massage. Simple happy ending. I haven't gotten her fully nude yet like some have reported but hopefully soon. Had some UTC feel up and she caught my load in her hand. Great reflexes on her part. Felt good after and she continued with a light head and should massage. By the time I got back in my car I felt the urge again. Almost thought about going back in but needed a fuck so to the bank and onward to wellness center.
Nicky (wellness center)?: went for to try Abby but she wasn't there but Nicky answered and she's was looking pretty good. Tight thin body probably about 5'4. Wanted 1. 6 and honestly wasn't in the mood to haggle. She started with an HJ and then moved on to CBJ while I finger her. She felt super tight even with just my index finger so I got really excited. Stood up and tried to position her doggy style but she stopped and said she can't I'd ruin her. I really don't think I'm that big but she was insistent and said she'd refund me. I've had girls stop me short before but I've never had one straight stop and offer a refund. I really wanted to fuck her though she was pretty cute and had a tight little body. But alas she stayed firm so I convinced her bbj. She said give her 40 more after and I said ok (never did and she didn't ask after either). Finished up after making her gag for like 20 minutes (god bless her for giving it her all) and left feeling satisfied but driving back home saw this hot girl walking and fuck wouldn't you know it I wanted to go again!
Anyone else ever get like that? Anyways here's a couple more from the past week.
Kiki I did see last week as well and again super cute but not the kind of slutty I wanted.
Nicole at Le Palace. Cute. Much better massage than Kiki. Let's me finger from both holes and her mouth. And let's me cum wherever. This particular time I bent her over and came on the kitty. I don't pay entry fee to see her I just giver a flat bill. New boobs are whatever but she seems to like them so I over enthusiastically admire them when I'm with her.
Also saw Nicky (different Nicky than from above) at pure relax. Half black half Latina. Fake tits and ass. Mid 30's. Super freaky. I've seen her a couple times and since the beginning it's pretty much always been the same. Everything bareback. Enthusiastic BJ I usually at some point stand up and have her on her knees till she's tears up and gags. Bring her up did doggy, missionary, Greek, and pretty much everything in between. Made her squirt a few times. I'd recommend the hour session cause I usually get 2 pops in. Second pop I told her I'm going to record and she just waited until I set it up. She gave me a nice rim job and I unloaded on her face. She enjoys being choked and spit on so again if you want that PSE she's highly recommended. She never asks for a tip and sometimes she likes to cuddle after. First time I only left her 100 and she said that was cool but I felt bad cause that kind of service deserves better so I usually leave 1. 4. She never counts she just says thank you and I'm off.
Lastly Tiffany from Eclat. Hot little spinner with c bolt one. Give a great tug but expensive (100 for nude HJ) I've seen her a couple times and she's done Nuru and Daty but there's an up charge and honestly not worth it. Teeth kinda messed up but outside of that I will say she is super cute which is why I was willing to pay more but now I can't justify it.
I can't find QZ in LF. Can you provide a little more info?
[QUOTE=FeMaiden;5571396]Treated myself today to Yuyu at QZ in LF. I had never been here before nor had I ever seen it reported on here so I TOFTT and am glad I did. Yuyu was so cute! Thin but nice perky rack. Fun personality too. As soon as she came in she immediately removed the towel and started lightly rubbing my ass and did a little tease I knew right away this would be nice. Gave a decent massage. Lots of teasing and touching the guys while still face down. Lots of attention to my ass crack too. I was very hard at this point. She got a hot towel and wiped off the oil and did the light touch thing with more teasing before the flip. Once flipped she went right to business with very light and gentle petting of my raging hard on and balls with no oil. Her hair was brushing my cock too. That was awesome. Lots of fingertip touching of the head. Soon she got the oil and did the stroking. She has a good technique with just the right tempo. I blew and she cleaned me up and then more of the gentle touching of my cock until it calmed down. Mostly otc roaming was allowed without any resistance. I did get utc up top and got into her bra to play with her lovely breasts and nipples. 60 for the hour and 50 tip.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Chhnk;5577555]This is a half question half report cause I haven't posted in a bit. Maybe it's because I took sometime off but these pass couple weeks I've been insatiable. Last night hit up Paradise GC. Took Sky to the VIP (I know wrong forum but this is part of the story) said she didn't remember me from a couple years ago. Fucked like a champ, really tested my cardio, and she told me she'll definitely remember me then after I left I kinda felt like going back for round 2 but decided against it. So this morning I went and saw Kiki at air body.
Kiki: cute girl. Solid body. Lackluster massage. Simple happy ending. I haven't gotten her fully nude yet like some have reported but hopefully soon. Had some UTC feel up and she caught my load in her hand. Great reflexes on her part. Felt good after and she continued with a light head and should massage. By the time I got back in my car I felt the urge again. Almost thought about going back in but needed a fuck so to the bank and onward to wellness center.
Nicky (wellness center)?: went for to try Abby but she wasn't there but Nicky answered and she's was looking pretty good. Tight thin body probably about 5'4. Wanted 1. 6 and honestly wasn't in the mood to haggle. She started with an HJ and then moved on to CBJ while I finger her. She felt super tight even with just my index finger so I got really excited. Stood up and tried to position her doggy style but she stopped and said she can't I'd ruin her. I really don't think I'm that big but she was insistent and said she'd refund me. I've had girls stop me short before but I've never had one straight stop and offer a refund. I really wanted to fuck her though she was pretty cute and had a tight little body. But alas she stayed firm so I convinced her bbj. She said give her 40 more after and I said ok (never did and she didn't ask after either). Finished up after making her gag for like 20 minutes (god bless her for giving it her all) and left feeling satisfied but driving back home saw this hot girl walking and fuck wouldn't you know it I wanted to go again!
Anyone else ever get like that? Anyways here's a couple more from the past week.[/QUOTE]I get that but I'm on the younger side. Just finished fucking and then in the car on the way home or an hour later I'm like. I need it again. Have yet to indulge myself though. I think one day, I'm just going to pull money out of the bank and screw all day and see if it does anything for me.
This is an expensive hobby though, Sometimes I think about how much I pay for an HE of FS and think how many weeks of groceries that would buy, especially now. I'd get a GF but all the women my age are trash and this is easier than going on blind dates and trying to get to know someone who may not even fuck you after.
[QUOTE=HeadHunter1969;5566688] I remembered a few posts here about tulip and ruby. Called and she was there. Older gal (45-50) with an average body (ok for her age I suppose).
HH69 out![/QUOTE]She didn't put her leg up on the table and mover your hand to her pussy? Strange.
[QUOTE=Meshugga;5577458]Initially when I touch them it's to communicate that I'm safe, and not LE. Not to be groping them. For example, a new girl in a place I know provides extras, I'll do pretty much what Grimmy describes. Or in a place that's new to me, that reviews tell me there's extras, same deal.[/QUOTE]Me too, I proceed just like Grimmy described, two posts down in this chain. I give the calf a gentle touch and pay attention to the reaction.
Lift Her Up.