Rants, Raves and Opinions AKA "The Octagon"

[QUOTE=ProVid;2872723]You said something which doesn't actually make sense. That the subject of a provider outing someone on twitter wasn't "our" business. I pointed out how it kinda is, if you really think about it. Our business. Because the business of this place is talking about pussy and whether that pussy is worth taking the risks.

I'll leave it at this. You made it [B]public business[/B] when you posted 3 posts about something nobody cared about from a few months back. We didn't bring it up or give a shit about. Since you dredged it up, it is reasonable to assume you are looking for some sort of comment from people here. Why bring it up otherwise?

Come for you? God fucking help anyone who tells you the truth.[/QUOTE]Maybe you should read my PUBLIC POSTS because if you did you would see everything you said is irrelevant. Everything you asked, commented to, etc. Can be found in my previous posts, so instead of reading USA you need to take your GED so that maybe you can comprehend better. I'm done with you. You are a waste of characters and I will bet my life savings I get more pussy than you. It's in your best interest just to leave it alone babe. I'm surprised A2 didn't tell you that I'm not the one to pick a fight with. You know now though.

[QUOTE=IlvblckGrls;2872894]LOL! I'll probably never save enough to see her, but that comment made me laugh, which for some reason always gets my little man's attention. Ha![/QUOTE]Speaking of fun, how about a duo with Silk and Karman.

What an exciting experience that would be.

Seriously ladies, I find confidence very sexy, and both of yours is well placed. Stay safe.

LM.

[QUOTE=LeoMac;2873223]Speaking of fun, how about a duo with Silk and Karman.

What an exciting experience that would be.

Seriously ladies, I find confidence very sexy, and both of yours is well placed. Stay safe.

LM.[/QUOTE]Nah we threw the idea out once and just seemed better to do our own things plus I like my friendship with her I don't want to have any reason to dislike her or myself for messing up what was good plus as far as duo's go yea I'll pass too much like babysitting and not enough playtime.

[QUOTE=BFDeal;2869012]I think Buddah's back.[/QUOTE]Wishful thinking I suspect, but wouldn't it be great if he was!

CFG.

What's going on at the Massage Parlor Reports thread? First, my own history.

My first excursion into any aspect of this hobby was at an Asian Massage parlor. Got a younger girl, and a happy ending, and I was thrilled about it. Went back, got an older woman with food-breath, and DIY. Decided never to return. That's when I wondered how to get an HE massage from non-Asian girls. Internet searches for massages from black girls ultimately led me to Backpage, then here, and the world of escorts in my price range.

But I keep tabs on that forum, and it's almost always the same: Guys complaining about how a place has a sub-standard massage, DIY, and old, angry Asian women demanding tips without the HE.

When I couldn't get any BP girls to answer one day, I saw Emma and Carly, who work with the more famous Nicole and Liah in Colerain for a body rub. Lots of people say good things about Velvet and her body rubs.

Here's what I can't understand: when there are actual options that will leave you happy, what's the fixation on having old Asian women watch you jerk off, only to come here and complain about it? I just don't get it.

In my dealing with providers in the past I find karmyn banks the most refreshing and gives me a laugh its no secret she has a backbone and always speaks her mind and I hope that never changes too many of these providers rollover and take whatever is dealt there way but not her if something she said offends you then its time to change what your saying akways outspoken and too the point this is why she has my respect and friendship and since when did Twitter have anything to do with this board I thought the purpose of this specific board was to inform and be informed not some high school gossip column I miss the old USA where it served its purpose I hope anyone who has beef with her squishes it and actually gets to know her because she's a fantastic person inside and out can't we all just get along instead of certain members whining because they didn't get their way or couldn't put someone wonderful down without them fighting back I'm grateful for the octagon finally providers can say what they mean without being removed or put in time out that's all I'll say for now but you shouldn't taunt a tiger it's finally going to pounce so glad to have kb back keep speaking your mind much love my sister.

[QUOTE=KarmynBankz;2873104]Maybe you should read my PUBLIC POSTS because if you did you would see everything you said is irrelevant. Everything you asked, commented to, etc. Can be found in my previous posts,
so instead of reading USA you need to take your GED so that maybe you can comprehend better. I'm done with you. You are a waste of characters and I will bet my life savings I get more pussy than you. It's in your best interest just to leave it alone babe.
I'm surprised A2 didn't tell you that I'm not the one to pick a fight with. You know now though.[/QUOTE]You're crazy. Not scary crazy. Sad crazy. That sounds dismissive, but I mean it in literally.

I didn't threaten you, call you names, or pretend to be a tough guy. I didn't bring in your past history, what you look like, or who you are, or speculate on the backstory of the outing on twitter.

I've tempered my responses, to not be cruel or personal. I want you to understand that I haven't said anything about you personally, but if you read your posts and PMs, it sounds very much like you think that I have. Which means you have social perception or cognitive bias issues which are going to give you serious problems in personal relationships. Forget about some dumb pussy board. I feel bad for you. You'll never actually hear it when people tell you to stop being such an unhinged defensive asshole because you take any form of dissent as "picking a fight".

It's something you should work on. You've got classless and shouty down already, you don't need more practice.

[QUOTE=SilkyWetness;2876938]In my dealing with providers in the past I find karmyn banks the most refreshing and gives me a laugh its no secret she has a backbone and always speaks her mind and I hope that never changes too many of these providers rollover and take whatever is dealt there way but not her if something she said offends you then its time to change what your saying akways outspoken and too the point this is why she has my respect and friendship and since when did Twitter have anything to do with this board I thought the purpose of this specific board was to inform and be informed not some high school gossip column I miss the old USA where it served its purpose I hope anyone who has beef with her squishes it and actually gets to know her because she's a fantastic person inside and out can't we all just get along instead of certain members whining because they didn't get their way or couldn't put someone wonderful down without them fighting back I'm grateful for the octagon finally providers can say what they mean without being removed or put in time out that's all I'll say for now but you shouldn't taunt a tiger it's finally going to pounce so glad to have kb back keep speaking your mind much love my sister.[/QUOTE]I think you misunderstand.

The concept of being outed in any capacity is our business. And yours for that matter. Do you really support guys putting providers on thedirty?

I didn't put her down. I didn't even post whatever it was you're calling gossip. She's got your head spun right around with her nonsense posts of which she needs 3 to sputter out the bullshit she clearly believes but that is demonstrably not there to begin with. Whatever Karmyn is doing, it's not laudable or good for anyone. You conflate being aggressive with being strong.

The pair of you have lowered my opinion of hookers intellectual capacity.

[QUOTE=KarmynBankz;2873104]I'm surprised A2 didn't tell you that I'm not the one to pick a fight with.[/QUOTE]Involve me in stuff like this. It never ends well.

A2.

[QUOTE=Admin2;2877651]Involve me in stuff like this. It never ends well.

A2.[/QUOTE]Lighten up Francis / Frances.

I have just one word for this problem.

OMERTA.

Cheech.

I've been thinking about starting up a service like what Steve has and buddah had. I might have a few girls lined up but was wanting some thoughts on this. Is it tough trying to find new talent? I know the phone calls and texts are overwhelming, but I'm a pretty organized guy. Any advice or thoughts on this matter are appreciated.

[QUOTE=ProVid;2877643]I think you misunderstand.

The concept of being outed in any capacity is our business. And yours for that matter. Do you really support guys putting providers on thedirty?

I didn't put her down. I didn't even post whatever it was you're calling gossip. She's got your head spun right around with her nonsense posts of which she pooould strongly disagree im anything less that intelligentneeds 3 to sputter out the bullshit she clearly believes but that is demonstrably not there to begin with. Whatever Karmyn is doing, it's not laudable or good for anyone. You conflate being aggressive with being strong.

The pair of you have lowered my opinion of hookers intellectual capacity.[/QUOTE]And that right there tells me all I need to know great rebuttal absolutely fantastic I wish you luck cause yp you obviously need it talking to people the way you do my mother always told me in order to receive kindness that kindness must first be shown and intellectual capacity has no bearing on anything that's being discussed and anyone that knows me would strongly argue I'm anything less than intelligent so to you sir good day.

[QUOTE=WorksAlot;2880379]I've been thinking about starting up a service like what Steve has and buddah had. I might have a few girls lined up but was wanting some thoughts on this. Is it tough trying to find new talent? I know the phone calls and texts are overwhelming, but I'm a pretty organized guy. Any advice or thoughts on this matter are appreciated.[/QUOTE]I have enough time and effort spent on getting one provider nailed down at a time. Even if you're young and good looking and can carry the mail, you still have to be a social worker with a master's in addiction and a mother hen / big brother on a 24 hour basis.

Other than that it sounds great. Stay safe LM.

[QUOTE=WorksAlot;2880379]I've been thinking about starting up a service like what Steve has and buddah had. I might have a few girls lined up but was wanting some thoughts on this. Is it tough trying to find new talent? I know the phone calls and texts are overwhelming, but I'm a pretty organized guy. Any advice or thoughts on this matter are appreciated.[/QUOTE]Lawyer and bondsman lined up just in case one of the girls gets popped.

Website on an offshore server.

Web designer that doesn't need to ve involved in the site once its setup.

Offshore encrypted email account along the line of say safe-mail.

Burner phone and laptop.

And for god's sake don't ever give one of the girls a ride across the Ohio for an appointment or to setup an incall. Aguy running an agency in South Carolina wound up with Fed charges for doing that and dropping his girls off in Georgia.

So I was trying to research one of the new black girls that showed up on BP today. She's super hot, to my way of thinking. Tried to get her to text a pic that hadn't appeared online, but we seemed to have some communication errors.

After some research, I think I actually found her real name, and after reaching the conclusion she's probably real, I discovered she's a wanted felon in her home state, on her home county's "Most Wanted" page. "Warrant: Felony contempt of court original charge possession of meth. ".

Guys, what do you think about that? She seems real, and hot, but is a wanted felon. I'm confused right now.

[QUOTE=IlvblckGrls;2881355]So I was trying to research one of the new black girls that showed up on BP today. She's super hot, to my way of thinking. Tried to get her to text a pic that hadn't appeared online, but we seemed to have some communication errors.

After some research, I think I actually found her real name, and after reaching the conclusion she's probably real, I discovered she's a wanted felon in her home state, on her home county's "Most Wanted" page. "Warrant: Felony contempt of court original charge possession of meth. ".

Guys, what do you think about that? She seems real, and hot, but is a wanted felon. I'm confused right now.[/QUOTE]What's to be confused?? You want to bang her or marry her? How many providers you think out there have outstanding warrants for all kinds of crap? We don't do backround checks on the providers to see if we are going to get a BJ from mary poppins.

[QUOTE=IlvblckGrls;2881355]So I was trying to research one of the new black girls that showed up on BP today. She's super hot, to my way of thinking. Tried to get her to text a pic that hadn't appeared online, but we seemed to have some communication errors.

After some research, I think I actually found her real name, and after reaching the conclusion she's probably real, I discovered she's a wanted felon in her home state, on her home county's "Most Wanted" page. "Warrant: Felony contempt of court original charge possession of meth. ".

Guys, what do you think about that? She seems real, and hot, but is a wanted felon. I'm confused right now.[/QUOTE]I believe the majority of the girls in this business are not in it because they are among the best that our society has to offer. Drug habits, their record, warrents or all of the above keep a lot of these girls from having a legal source of income. If you are paying a lady for sex, odds are she is currently or has been at some point while working as a provider, a wanted felon. I am sure a lot of them have shit hanging over their head and at any point could fuck up and become wanted for not fulfilling their agreements with the law. I don't think it's uncommon at all.

I don't believe most of them if they tell me they have no warrents as I have seen three in the past year end up in jail from a warrent / s after telling me they had no warrents. It's a pretty big give away when driving past a cop and they freak out. LOL. But no, they don't have a warrent out for them. If you want to find out, just say "oh shit, I went speeding past that cop, I think he is coming after me" their reaction will tell you if they are wanted or not.

I know there are some of these ladies that do have their shit together and don't have criminal records but if I were a betting man, & I am. I'd bet a higher % of these ladies are wanted for something somewhere.

[QUOTE=IlvblckGrls;2881355]So I was trying to research one of the new black girls that showed up on BP today. She's super hot, to my way of thinking. Tried to get her to text a pic that hadn't appeared online, but we seemed to have some communication errors.

After some research, I think I actually found her real name, and after reaching the conclusion she's probably real, I discovered she's a wanted felon in her home state, on her home county's "Most Wanted" page. "Warrant: Felony contempt of court original charge possession of meth. ".

Guys, what do you think about that? She seems real, and hot, but is a wanted felon. I'm confused right now.[/QUOTE]Some providers are wanted felons like this one. Others are not currently wanted but have felony and / or misdemeanor records. Some are on probation. Many providers have boyfriends or associates lurking near their notel rooms with outstanding charges or a colorful criminal record. I'd say only a handful of providers have no criminal record or just have minor stuff like public intoxication.

I personally wouldn't go near this one, as there are apparently no reports about her and you have no idea how careful or erratic she is. But it's up to you in the end.

[QUOTE=WarlockKy;2881085]Lawyer and bondsman lined up just in case one of the girls gets popped.

Website on an offshore server.

Web designer that doesn't need to ve involved in the site once its setup.

Offshore encrypted email account along the line of say safe-mail.

Burner phone and laptop.

And for god's sake don't ever give one of the girls a ride across the Ohio for an appointment or to setup an incall. Aguy running an agency in South Carolina wound up with Fed charges for doing that and dropping his girls off in Georgia.[/QUOTE]Don't know much about the technical issues, but they all seem sensible / necessary. Lawyer on retainer and bondsman absolutely necessary.

NO interstate stuff. Google Mann Act and Jack Johnson; I don't think you would get much lenience for being the next Great White Hope. You could probably try to confine your operations to an area north of the Ohio to I-70, close to I-75 and I-71. I don't think the Feds are running many stings that don't involve underage girls, but even without underage girls, your "employees, agents, independent contractors" will be yours and you can get stuck with their violations, which are inevitable. They will not be the smartest tools in the shed, may have addiction problems, further impairing their poor judgment, might cross state lines. And have I mentioned drug trafficking? Haven't check interstate commerce cases lately, but my guess is girls staying at any interstate hotel chain, could be a Mann Act problem, even in Ohio only. And have I mentioned drug trafficking?

Finally, if you think you're smart enough to run this business, you're probably smart enough to run a legitimate business with much less risk. Good luck to you in your future endeavors: it's clear what my best advice / judgment is. I suggest using your best judgment.

[QUOTE=FatDaddy3750;2881690]Don't know much about the technical issues, but they all seem sensible / necessary. Lawyer on retainer and bondsman absolutely necessary.

NO interstate stuff. Google Mann Act and Jack Johnson; I don't think you would get much lenience for being the next Great White Hope. You could probably try to confine your operations to an area north of the Ohio to I-70, close to I-75 and I-71. I don't think the Feds are running many stings that don't involve underage girls, but even without underage girls, your "employees, agents, independent contractors" will be yours and you can get stuck with their violations, which are inevitable. They will not be the smartest tools in the shed, may have addiction problems, further impairing their poor judgment, might cross state lines. And have I mentioned drug trafficking? Haven't check interstate commerce cases lately, but my guess is girls staying at any interstate hotel chain, could be a Mann Act problem, even in Ohio only. And have I mentioned drug trafficking?

Finally, if you think you're smart enough to run this business, you're probably smart enough to run a legitimate business with much less risk. Good luck to you in your future endeavors: it's clear what my best advice / judgment is. I suggest using your best judgment.[/QUOTE]I would just like to thank everybody for their input and advice. I already know a guy for the email / website part of the business. I'll be doing some more research on the matter. Hopefully I can start this up.

[QUOTE=SilkyWetness;2880667]And that right there tells me all I need to know great rebuttal absolutely fantastic I wish you luck cause yp you obviously need it talking to people the way you do my mother always told me in order to receive kindness that kindness must first be shown and intellectual capacity has no bearing on anything that's being discussed and anyone that knows me would strongly argue I'm anything less than intelligent so to you sir good day.[/QUOTE]Silky this idiot needs to be put in his place, all he does is talk crap about everyone, jumping in shit that isn't his business. I respect a lady like you that will stand up to his bullshit.

[QUOTE=WorksAlot;2880379]I've been thinking about starting up a service like what Steve has and buddah had. I might have a few girls lined up but was wanting some thoughts on this. Is it tough trying to find new talent? I know the phone calls and texts are overwhelming, but I'm a pretty organized guy. Any advice or thoughts on this matter are appreciated.[/QUOTE]Competition is always a good thing. A challenging business I can imagine, but heed the comments / suggestions by others that have been noted, and good luck to you!

CFG.

[QUOTE=Davem7643;2884793]Seriously? You're first post EVER is to complain about the site you have been using for free for 8 fucking years?

Man that takes some fucking balls.

A2.

I love your style A2. One day I'm going to have to travel down to you to meet you and buy you a drink.[/QUOTE]LOL Not so fast! That was A2's version. If anything, my first post was to suggest that the forum open a new section for COP (Covered Only Providers) to protect mongering in our area in general. I'm not against deleting most posts that report STIs.

A new section / thread on this great forum where local COP (covered only providers) could advertise and not be demonized, I felt would balance this out.

Haha! I've got enough experience mongering to not need balls of any sort (over several hundred women and counting). I've got a little bit more than 8 years of experience (LOL).

[blue]I have three words to say in reply

1. Bull
2. Fucking
3. Shit

Had you posted what you report above it would have still been there.

If you post some more, and stop being a douchebag then you will be a senior and you could start that thread. You are not off to a good start. In case it isn't clear to you, you just impugned my character and called me a liar. So your first post was complaining about the forum and now your second one is calling me a liar, seriously worst fucking start ever. I would suggest that you stop now, this isn't going to go any better for you.

I'm also moving this to The Octagon because it has nothing to do with this thread.

A2[/blue]

[QUOTE=Eggre;2885425]LOL Not so fast! That was A2's version. If anything, my first post was to suggest that the forum open a new section for COP (Covered Only Providers) to protect mongering in our area in general. I'm not against deleting most posts that report STIs.

A new section / thread on this great forum where local COP (covered only providers) could advertise and not be demonized, I felt would balance this out.

Haha! I've got enough experience mongering to not need balls of any sort (over several hundred women and counting). I've got a little bit more than 8 years of experience (LOL).

[blue]I have three words to say in reply

1. Bull
2. Fucking
3. Shit

Had you posted what you report above it would have still been there.

If you post some more, and stop being a douchebag then you will be a senior and you could start that thread. You are not off to a good start. In case it isn't clear to you, you just impugned my character and called me a liar. So your first post was complaining about the forum and now your second one is calling me a liar, seriously worst fucking start ever. I would suggest that you stop now, this isn't going to go any better for you.

I'm also moving this to The Octagon because it has nothing to do with this thread.

A2[/blue][/QUOTE]I don't know which of these childish posts I'm replying to but I have a few observations: 1] this is a free site, and, as a general rule in life, I don't complain about anything free. 2] A2 runs this site and can run it any way he wants. 3] if anybody wants to prove his manhood, there are plenty of providers who will review evidence of such manhood and I invite their reports.

It has been a long time since I posted a pic of a Memphis girl on the Octagon. I have been under the weather but am slowly on the mend. I saw Chrissy and a very pregnant Mimi last Friday. I have not seen Chrissy since she had her baby but she looks as good as ever. She managed to get me to rise to the occasion. Two hours later, Mimi did the same thing. She is expecting her baby in two weeks.

[QUOTE=BuyingSmiles;2891425]Asked about her rates, She replied 80/120. Asked if she had been reviewed online, she said yes. Asked if on USA, she said yes. I asked what name would the reviews be under, she said Krista. I found nothing and told her. I thanked her for her time. She said try Kristen. I found nothing. I said No luck.

A short while later she sent me a unsolicited picture. Cute enough girl a bit on the thick side. I don't have permission to share her picture, so I won't. I would think if you asked she would send you one.

Sorry I don't have more.[/QUOTE]If you search the number, you will also find ads for a male escort that uses the same number that she uses.

I was alerted today that this USASG Advertiser is saying in her ads that she is certified by EE!

I must certainly do not certify this lady. I know absolutely nothing about this person.

She did contact me last week about working together but by some of her outlandish statements she made, it was a very short discussion.

Now I do not care who sees her and she may be the best provider to ever come onto this site I do not know.

But what I do know is that she has tried to use me to add to her lack of creditability without my knowledge or consent.

Again I do not know this person. I do not vouch for this person. And I would even be more careful than normal if you want to see her.

Maybe some of you mongers who have seen her can review her for the rest of us.

I nicely asked her to remove the EE reference in her ads earlier today and as of this posting it still has not been done.

And as always thanks for everyone who sees a EE lady and stay safe out there everyone.

We are all in this together!! EE.

[QUOTE=SinsinnatiToy;2895284]If you search the number, you will also find ads for a male escort that uses the same number that she uses.[/QUOTE]I recently posted an ad here trying to get a Utr some regulars and a gentleman here came back with the same bull shit saying the number, when searched on Google, came back to a male escort site. I know for a fact this lady, that I'm referring too, has had her number for the past three years and Has never posted her number online anywhere.

Furthermore, she is not the same lady you are referring to here in your post.

I'd suggest you not badger or discredit anyone with your bad info from google.

[QUOTE=EloquentEven;2899116]I was alerted today that this USASG Advertiser is saying in her ads that she is certified by EE!

I must certainly do not certify this lady. I know absolutely nothing about this person.

She did contact me last week about working together but by some of her outlandish statements she made, it was a very short discussion.

Now I do not care who sees her and she may be the best provider to ever come onto this site I do not know.

But what I do know is that she has tried to use me to add to her lack of creditability without my knowledge or consent.

Again I do not know this person. I do not vouch for this person. And I would even be more careful than normal if you want to see her.

Maybe some of you mongers who have seen her can review her for the rest of us.

I nicely asked her to remove the EE reference in her ads earlier today and as of this posting it still has not been done.

And as always thanks for everyone who sees a EE lady and stay safe out there everyone.

We are all in this together!! EE.[/QUOTE]Another excellent example of EE looking out for everyone and providing value to the business as a whole. Good stuff, Steve!

[QUOTE=Glockman;2889577]It has been a long time since I posted a pic of a Memphis girl on the Octagon. I have been under the weather but am slowly on the mend. I saw Chrissy and a very pregnant Mimi last Friday. I have not seen Chrissy since she had her baby but she looks as good as ever. She managed to get me to rise to the occasion. Two hours later, Mimi did the same thing. She is expecting her baby in two weeks.[/QUOTE]Love those open leg shots. What a babe.

[QUOTE=Member#4670;2900247]Love those open leg shots. What a babe.[/QUOTE]Then how about Angel from a photo shoot from last Friday. Another Memphis babe who doesn't mind showing off. Does a slurpy BBBJ also.

[QUOTE=Glockman;2901409]Then how about Angel from a photo shoot from last Friday. Another Memphis babe who doesn't mind showing off. Does a slurpy BBBJ also.[/QUOTE]I would have to do 68 in the time out corner.

[QUOTE=SinfulDreams;2901616]So my personal masseuse who is a male said you men must be taking quite good care of me!! He is aware of what I do, and had to work my facial muscles and jaw, along with my lower back. All part of the job he said LOL.[/QUOTE]You wear my muscles out.

Seriously FML right now. I can't catch a break! I'm not getting any good black girl leads on the site. When I try to TOFTT, I can't get it done. Crickets, usually. I must not know how to text properly, or something!

So, today, I just decided to try a piece of vanilla and contacted EE, where I had previously been verified. What a pleasure to set up through them! No stress! Super easy! Then, just a bit before the meeting, she got her period. I mean, seriously, FML.

I mean nothing bad to EE. They were great. I feel like I should just stop messing around on BP, only I wish he had a black girl. But, damn, I can't seal the deal the past two weeks.

<end rant .

Has anyone seen or heard from the Cheviot voyeur couple-live shows /.

Thanks.

Maybe this should go in the "news and media reports" section, but I wanted to point out that an article about providers agitating for legalization is on the front page of the New York Times today. This is important. For those who have travelled to other countries where prostitution is legal, well you know how much better everything is. The girls are protected. The guys are protected. Not pimps and no bullshit. And it is feminists pushing legalization. So do what you can to make this a political issue that is not about male privilege but about female empowerment. There are some who actually want sane social policies, and for those citizens who have not thought about this issue--well you can enlighten them. My 2 cents.

Stay safe and smart, CK.

[QUOTE=Crazykev;2903892]Maybe this should go in the "news and media reports" section, but I wanted to point out that an article about providers agitating for legalization is on the front page of the New York Times today. This is important. For those who have travelled to other countries where prostitution is legal, well you know how much better everything is. The girls are protected. The guys are protected. Not pimps and no bullshit. And it is feminists pushing legalization. So do what you can to make this a political issue that is not about male privilege but about female empowerment. There are some who actually want sane social policies, and for those citizens who have not thought about this issue--well you can enlighten them. My 2 cents.

Stay safe and smart, CK.[/QUOTE]Kidding. I do.

Should Prostitution Be a Crime? - The New York Times.

[URL]http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/08/magazine/should-prostitution-be-a-crime.html[/URL]

I need to learn to plan ahead. I have tried seven providers today and its either crickets or no answer. What the fuck. Does every one get fucked on Friday??