Rants, Raves and Opinions AKA "The Octagon"

[QUOTE=Glockman;2020102]At least for now, Cincyeast52 not withstanding. Here is a shot of Aries that I took yesterday. It was cold outside, but hot inside. I love the glasses. I told her to leave them on.[/QUOTE]I appreciate the return of Glockman, I always enjoy his photos. I had heard that he actually posts words but I have never seen them. Now for my true purpose. I propose that we designate some member as pinata of the week and we all beat the hell out of that individual. I have seen Christina crushed, Buddah beaten, Phatt pummelled, Glockman gunned down, Admin 2 attacked, and other such acts of love and camaraderie applied mercilessly to members on this site, so why not share the wealth and beat down someone new each and every week all in the name of helping each other maintain our self esteem. I can hardly wait for Walt to get whupped. As always.

[QUOTE=Waltmore;2020364]I appreciate the return of Glockman, I always enjoy his photos. I had heard that he actually posts words but I have never seen them. Now for my true purpose. I propose that we designate some member as pinata of the week and we all beat the hell out of that individual. I have seen Christina crushed, Buddah beaten, Phatt pummelled, Glockman gunned down, Admin 2 attacked, and other such acts of love and camaraderie applied mercilessly to members on this site, so why not share the wealth and beat down someone new each and every week all in the name of helping each other maintain our self esteem. I can hardly wait for Walt to get whupped. As always.[/QUOTE][LIST]It's A2, not Admin 2, we are all friends here.[/LIST][LIST]Glock writes words in his posts? I'll be damned, I never noticed that before.[/LIST].

[QUOTE=SinfulDreams;2019301]I have met Lila Bella in person this evening, and I can tell you she is all that and then some. She has spunk, sass, and on top of that she is Gorgeous!! I have talked to her since she started, and she has had a few bad experiences, so she increased her rates attempting to weed out those type of guys. She is making her rate what I suggested to her to stay not only with the Cincinnati economy and market, but to get a steady clientele, and I know she will have no problems doing just that.

If she is too expensive for you, than there are others, but I am telling you to give her a try, you will NOT be disappointed. She is on hiatus for two weeks having a minor surgery, but will be back and looking forward to meeting some great guys.

I will be on tour the 9-31 so I would suggest seeing her, Amber, Summer and Sandy, Rhonda, Dawn, and all the other great girls that are on here.[/QUOTE]$500 per hour is too expensive for 99% of the people on this board and now you are offering duo's with her. So if I take her rate and your rate, is it $750 an hour then? Please get with reality.

[QUOTE=LilaBella;2020130]"But in comparison..." should read "but in my opinion". It's pretty difficult to compare a girl that is 5'3', 115 lbs. To another that is, well, not. And there is nothing wrong with anyone being bigger or smaller, it's just looking at apples next to oranges. I find clients all like very different things and I find that I gained popularity pretty quickly in part because there aren't a lot of extremely petite, short haired blondes in this game. That's in no way to say that I am better than anyone else, it's saying I offer something different, something not at all widely available, and apparently something pretty appealing.

I also in no way misrepresent myself. I am all natural, have no tattoos, I really am 36, I am educated, and I look exactly like my UNEDITED photographs taken just this month. I offer a true GFE experience, there isn't a thing mechanical about me, that have left my clients ecstatically pleased.

I have no problem with prospective gentlemen that pass me buy to save a buck, thinking that a bang is a bang. My rates are in part intended for that. I would never claim or want to be the best out there but I know I am damn sexy, both body and face (my pics are unblurred so everyone can see), witty, and I can make a man beg for more of me. I've never had a client not come back or deem me their ATF. I've had nothing but 5 star, rave reviews. It's not going to my head, it just is what it is. So hate me for it.

I'm not here to "gain attention" as you put it. I am here to run a favorable business. I'd prefer a small, elite group of regulars, period. That's exactly what I have now, I have no complaints and do not want for business.

Anyone can complain about me, my rates, and anything else they'd like about me once they've had a date with me, or even just met me for coffee. Otherwise, I'm quite frankly quite sick of the bull, unfounded comments. When people take this much time out of their day to ***** about me it says more about them than it does me;).

Lila Bella.[/QUOTE]I appreciate a woman trying to weed out the guys she may not think are NOT her cup of tea but for 5 Franklins the lady should be in Chicago, LA, NY, LV, or Boston just to name a few. Don't price yourself out of the market. Common sense goes a long way. The last woman I knew in this who commanded that kind of money and got it easily was Candy Kemp in Tenn and she was a stone cold FOX with a menu that would make a PSE man cry Uncle and put to shame most women looks wise today with possibly the exception of Taylor Fox. Look at your duo partner and learn 250 to 3 is about tops in this area and you don't have the rep to command either one. All you have to do is look at Rhonda, Dawn, Molly, little Sexy Me. Sasha, CupCake, Airella who aren't getting anywhere near what you are asking and their cups runneth over and from reviews all who can make grown men scream and see what they are asking. Then go accordingly. Don't care what you think yours is made of but it sure isn't 5 and yes there are men galore who will fork it over because they still subscribe to that age old myth you get what you pay for. Ain't so trust me. As lovely as you are don't price yourself into a position where soon you will be asking that famous question heard round the hobby, "would you like fries with your meal"? Be concerned about what men think about you dear lady. If they don't like you and spread that it has driven better women than you to the sidelines. JMO and have a good day.

[QUOTE=PuntangMan;2020548]I appreciate a woman trying to weed out the guys she may not think are NOT her cup of tea but for 5 Franklins the lady should be in Chicago, LA, NY, LV, or Boston just to name a few. Don't price yourself out of the market. Common sense goes a long way. The last woman I knew in this who commanded that kind of money and got it easily was Candy Kemp in Tenn and she was a stone cold FOX with a menu that would make a PSE man cry Uncle and put to shame most women looks wise today with possibly the exception of Taylor Fox. Look at your duo partner and learn 250 to 3 is about tops in this area and you don't have the rep to command either one. All you have to do is look at Rhonda, Dawn, Molly, little Sexy Me. Sasha, CupCake, Airella who aren't getting anywhere near what you are asking and their cups runneth over and from reviews all who can make grown men scream and see what they are asking. Then go accordingly. Don't care what you think yours is made of but it sure isn't 5 and yes there are men galore who will fork it over because they still subscribe to that age old myth you get what you pay for. Ain't so trust me. As lovely as you are don't price yourself into a position where soon you will be asking that famous question heard round the hobby, "would you like fries with your meal"? Be concerned about what men think about you dear lady. If they don't like you and spread that it has driven better women than you to the sidelines. JMO and have a good day.[/QUOTE]I have not personally met Lila, but I started noticing her pictures pop up regularly here. Look, in my opinion, she is beautiful but what really makes for a good session is not how the provider looks, but the chemistry with the provider. When it comes to price, there are the ones charging high and the ones charging low. It is the provider choice really, not ours. Think of it like a car. A 911 in New York or in Boston, costs the same as in Cinci. The same applies for a Ford.

Do you see yourself going to the Porshe dealership and tell the salesman, hey you are in Cinci, your 911 should cost that much?

Any way, if you like it and can afford it, go for it, if not, just move on. Throwing darts or harsh words at both providers who command high rates and clients who pay these rates is not a normal adult behavior.

As I said, I have not met Lila, and probably will not meet her unless I happen to be in Cinci or she comes out to NY, I just said what I said cause you gents who act like that are very wrong. I am not perfect, but I have learned how I should behave.

Cheers.

TM.

[QUOTE=Waltmore;2020364]I appreciate the return of Glockman, I always enjoy his photos. I had heard that he actually posts words but I have never seen them.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Admin2;2020381]Glock writes words in his posts? I'll be damned, I never noticed that before.[/QUOTE]Abcdefghij.

[QUOTE=Glockman;2020625]Abcdefghij.[/QUOTE]Those pics always have me singing the alphabet too. LOL Great pics as always.



[QUOTE=SinfulDreams;2020109]And that is your opinion and you are entitled to it. I have met Lila personally and can say she is a cut above what we have on here. She is now showing her pics, and her attitude and personality that go with it are excellent. I am giving her some much needed advice, and helping her along the way since she is new. She actually was praised when she did raise her rates, and several guys had no problem with it. She has a clientele, that is no problem, but in the future she would like to expand on that.

If she isn't for you as I said there are plenty of others, but I think as do others she is going to fit in well here.[/QUOTE]Commendable, and no harm for the effort. Please read my response to her.

[QUOTE=LilaBella;2020130]"But in comparison..." should read "but in my opinion". It's pretty difficult to compare a girl that is 5'3', 115 lbs. To another that is, well, not. And there is nothing wrong with anyone being bigger or smaller, it's just looking at apples next to oranges. I find clients all like very different things and I find that I gained popularity pretty quickly in part because there aren't a lot of extremely petite, short haired blondes in this game. That's in no way to say that I am better than anyone else, it's saying I offer something different, something not at all widely available, and apparently something pretty appealing.

I also in no way misrepresent myself. I am all natural, have no tattoos, I really am 36, I am educated, and I look exactly like my UNEDITED photographs taken just this month. I offer a true GFE experience, there isn't a thing mechanical about me, that have left my clients ecstatically pleased.

I have no problem with prospective gentlemen that pass me buy to save a buck, thinking that a bang is a bang. My rates are in part intended for that. I would never claim or want to be the best out there but I know I am damn sexy, both body and face (my pics are unblurred so everyone can see), witty, and I can make a man beg for more of me. I've never had a client not come back or deem me their ATF. I've had nothing but 5 star, rave reviews. It's not going to my head, it just is what it is. So hate me for it.

I'm not here to "gain attention" as you put it. I am here to run a favorable business. I'd prefer a small, elite group of regulars, period. That's exactly what I have now, I have no complaints and do not want for business.

Anyone can complain about me, my rates, and anything else they'd like about me once they've had a date with me, or even just met me for coffee. Otherwise, I'm quite frankly quite sick of the bull, unfounded comments. When people take this much time out of their day to ***** about me it says more about them than it does me;).

Lila Bella.[/QUOTE]My words brought you out behind those blurred photos.

And, you removed the blurred images on your last set. Remember you're the seller. I've earned my status to decipher and understand price structures down to a loaf of bread at the grocery store, and why it costs above or below the loaf to the left or right. No need for defensive statements.

It might seem unfair that one in the crowd called attention to you, but indirectly it'll be your gain. You've went from unreachable, others speaking on your behalf, to reachable, personable, attending to your online persona.

I've road in the Porsche the same as the Pinto. I've found that my time in this dream world has carved some distinct realities. Nobody ever made a statement about a Porsche that even though it's a great ride, the seat was too hard, or the shift pattern on the transmission was just too tight. Of course not; it's a Porsche with no flaws. That's what we're told to believe. I might be defending those in a different price structure, but it comes with good reason.

[QUOTE=Admin2;2020381][LIST]It's A2, not Admin 2, we are all friends here.[/LIST][LIST]Glock writes words in his posts? I'll be damned, I never noticed that before.[/LIST].[/QUOTE]These posts are great. Stating viewpoints and arguments with words not calling everyone an ass for disagreeing.

Lila, very nice response. Set your viewpoint while going out of your way not to diss anyone, NKY is right your post probably helped you.

Glock gets all tongue tied on here because he secretly wants to be Mr. A2's B**** so he just posts picks.

I wish I got 500 $ an hour, at times I am worth it, but it rarely happens. Makes me jealous of those who do.

(and Glock, just kidding man, don't shoot my ass). Party on Dudes!

[QUOTE=SinfulDreams;2019301]She is making her rate what I suggested to her to stay not only with the Cincinnati economy and market, but to get a steady clientele, and I know she will have no problems doing just that.[/QUOTE]Hmmm. . .

I am just curious, as a general baseline, what you think the prevailing GFE rate is, [B]for the Cincinnati economy?[/B]


Just to be fair, I will give mine before you answer:


AVG GFE: 150-175
ABV AVG GFE: 200-250

Sure you will see double these rates in other cities, such as I am tonight (talk about sticker shock), but keep in mind their regional "cost-of-living" and "average yearly income"may also be higher which impacts the actual value per dollar.

Hmmm. . .

I am just curious, as a general baseline, what you think the prevailing GFE rate is, [B]for the Cincinnati economy?[/B].

Just to be fair, I will give mine before you answer:

[B]LOW AVE: 100-125 becoming more available :) [/B]

AVG GFE: 150-175.

ABV AVG GFE: 200-250.

Sure you will see double these rates in other cities, such as I am tonight (talk about sticker shock), but keep in mind their regional "cost-of-living" and "average yearly income"may also be higher which impacts the actual value per dollar.

[QUOTE=LilaBella;2020130]"But in comparison..." should read "but in my opinion". It's pretty difficult to compare a girl that is 5'3', 115 lbs. To another that is, well, not. And there is nothing wrong with anyone being bigger or smaller, it's just looking at apples next to oranges. I find clients all like very different things and I find that I gained popularity pretty quickly in part because there aren't a lot of extremely petite, short haired blondes in this game. That's in no way to say that I am better than anyone else, it's saying I offer something different, something not at all widely available, and apparently something pretty appealing.

I also in no way misrepresent myself. I am all natural, have no tattoos, I really am 36, I am educated, and I look exactly like my UNEDITED photographs taken just this month. I offer a true GFE experience, there isn't a thing mechanical about me, that have left my clients ecstatically pleased.

I have no problem with prospective gentlemen that pass me buy to save a buck, thinking that a bang is a bang. My rates are in part intended for that. I would never claim or want to be the best out there but I know I am damn sexy, both body and face (my pics are unblurred so everyone can see), witty, and I can make a man beg for more of me. I've never had a client not come back or deem me their ATF. I've had nothing but 5 star, rave reviews. It's not going to my head, it just is what it is. So hate me for it.

I'm not here to "gain attention" as you put it. I am here to run a favorable business. I'd prefer a small, elite group of regulars, period. That's exactly what I have now, I have no complaints and do not want for business.

Anyone can complain about me, my rates, and anything else they'd like about me once they've had a date with me, or even just met me for coffee. Otherwise, I'm quite frankly quite sick of the bull, unfounded comments. When people take this much time out of their day to ***** about me it says more about them than it does me;).

Lila Bella.[/QUOTE]Just like a window all decorated for Christmas or Halloween its still a window, you can put your spin on your giner or personality but you are still a human being and it's still a vagina 500 is way to much money. Talking about your body your face intelligence means nothing again it's still a vagina it's still sex no more no less. You forget you are dealing with working class people in this city you're not in New York or Las Vegas you're in the Midwest and as far as your pictures not being blurry you just did that I even spoke on it. Get off your high horse lady and come back down to earth you are not all that. Oh and you seem racist .

[QUOTE=Glockman;2020102]At least for now, Cincyeast52 not withstanding. Here is a shot of Aries that I took yesterday. It was cold outside, but hot inside. I love the glasses. I told her to leave them on.[/QUOTE]Ok. So because of you, I've got this big wet sloppy spot on my computer screen from licking at all the right places on Ms. Aries. At some point, someone's going to invent iTaste but until then, I'm just going to have give you the F-you shout out of the day.

Have a great day and keep shootin'.

Dz.

Admin2.

Glad to see you censor me on this forum too. You Nazi sheep rapers are at least constant.

[blue]I don't think I deleted any of your posts here, however if I deleted one or two of the few hundred where you have called me a Nazi Sheep fucker, apologies. I normally don't edit posts here.

A2[/blue]

Oh yeah, fuck you too.