"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

Finally met up with this mid 20's 5'7" AA spinner. She was a 8/9/9/8 so far. I took the plunge and drove 50 plus miles last night to see her. We met in a strip mall parking lot where we talked for 2 hours in the car before she leaned in for a kiss.

Then for the next hour we pawed at each other like teenagers on lovers lane. We could have gotten a room but she declined. Although things didn't go as far as either of us would have liked it still warranted the payment of a $ for her time and set the stage for date number two.

I'm always worried when things get too chatty at first. I'd rather just get to the raw feelings and animal magnetism of the moment. I am a good hookup date but too much conversation can throw me off my game, but it all worked out well enough in the end, and did leave me wanting more. Maybe that was her plan.

I am sure that final 8 will be elevated to a 9 or 10 after a few more dates as we start to gain more insight into each others needs and desires. I would say that the voice mail she left this morning of her masturbating to orgasm is a good sign of things to come. She looked pretty innocent from afar, but she was far from innocent. Just my type.

[QUOTE=DirtyDeeds38;2155174]I dated a girl a few years ago who was LITERALLY trying to trap me through pregnancy. Before we had sex the first time, I brought up BC and she assured me without doubt she was on BC. But when we had sex, I noticed she always insisted I cum inside her. She would even grab on to me with a death grip when I tried to pull out and say, "baby cum inside me" So I got suspicious. I know most girls carry their BC with them, especially when overnighting. We went on a three day trip and I caught her off guard and asked her to see her BC and of course she had none and made up a bunch of BS excuses. So I walked over, pulled up my saved emails and texts with a very long conversation I saved between us, with her describing in detail how she was on BC. Then I leaned over and told her, if you come up pregnant, I will leave this game on the spot and then I will take our communications, get an attorney and sue your pretty little ass for setting me up. I told her, sure you'll get child support out of me, paid by the award I win against you for setting me up. I don't know if such actions are truly worthy of litigation, but it scared the heck out of her. I told her it would be a wash and I would come after her legally relentlessly for setting me up with something so disgusting.[/QUOTE]I had a civy GF once (well I never actually called her my GF in front of her. Just someone I dated for a few weeks) that was similar -- she would not verbally tell me to cum inside, but she would always physically manipulate the situation to try to make that happen. She fell in love with me pretty quickly and she knew it wasn't mutual, but increasingly I felt like she was trying to lock me in to the relationship and I think she thought having a kid with me would be a good idea for her both financially and romantically. When we first started screwing, I would go unprotected in the vajay, but after a while put it in her mouth and let her finish me that way. I think she had an aversion to semen because she wasn't really enthusiastic about the money shot at the end. So after a while, she would try to switch back to vaginal from oral, claiming her mouth was tired, etc. Every now and then I would accommodate and just pull out, but after a while she was trying to grip on to keep me inside even during the paste event.

So, one time I just got fed up and pinned her legs up behind her head, jacked her up and went for the butthole, while she is squirming and saying "no! No! It was a calculated risk because I don't want to be accused of crimes later just because I was forceful and didn't accept resistance. But, I only put about a third of my total length in her ass and went kind of slow (no lube except spit), until I came in her ass. Then I explained from now on, its either going in her mouth or her ass. Surprisingly the anal event went really well, it was all she could talk about for about a day, how she enjoyed it even though her friends had scared her into never trying it. The night of the anal intrusion was the last time I ever banged her, because her sister saw me out with another girl about a week later, and instead of listening to a bunch of jealous bitching I just told her to get lost.

[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;2155223]Statistically there is a 10% reduction in fluid.[/QUOTE]Does it affect the color / viscosity of the load? I'm not too concerned about total fluid volume -- more distance can be achieved by squeezing the hose a little bit, for example if in missionary and striving to aim for her face and hair.

[QUOTE=JeezLizard;2155248]Does it affect the color / viscosity of the load? I'm not too concerned about total fluid volume -- more distance can be achieved by squeezing the hose a little bit, for example if in missionary and striving to aim for her face and hair.[/QUOTE]I suppose it does get a little more clear. Not really an issue in any other way, except the relief you have, knowing you are not the father.

I could not tell ANY difference at all in color or viscosity -- the two TINY scars under your scrotum I cannot find at all -- and could not even after a couple of years!! I only know this as a girl I was fucking was not on BC and she only let me creampie her as I had a vasectomy. One day she wanted to see the scars and could not find them!!

I had to practically get a microscope out and show her NO SWIMMMERS! LOL.

[QUOTE=JeezLizard;2155248]Does it affect the color / viscosity of the load? I'm not too concerned about total fluid volume -- more distance can be achieved by squeezing the hose a little bit, for example if in missionary and striving to aim for her face and hair.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=GuyWoodson;2155283]I could not tell ANY difference at all in color or viscosity -- the two TINY scars under your scrotum I cannot find at all -- and could not even after a couple of years!! I only know this as a girl I was fucking was not on BC and she only let me creampie her as I had a vasectomy. One day she wanted to see the scars and could not find them!!

I had to practically get a microscope out and show her NO SWIMMMERS! LOL.[/QUOTE]I have a letter from my Dr in case someone wants proof. LOL.

Any of you guys know a hotel / restaurant that is for transients to be used for a M&G? I need a venue to meet and feed Pots that is decent enough but not a place Richmonders go for a night out, like the Jefferson, Hyatt, Omni, or marriott. Maybe Holiday Inn Airport, Something like that? Preferably Banquette seating, some privacy, a wine list, and privacy.

[QUOTE=FredMoore;2155403]Any of you guys know a hotel / restaurant that is for transients to be used for a M&G? I need a venue to meet and feed Pots that is decent enough but not a place Richmonders go for a night out, like the Jefferson, Hyatt, Omni, or marriott. Maybe Holiday Inn Airport, Something like that? Preferably Banquette seating, some privacy, a wine list, and privacy.[/QUOTE]In cities I'm unfamiliar with, I usually ask the POT who is familiar with the area to make suggestions for a general area that works well for them, then I use Bing / Google whatever to find nearby hotel / restaurants.

[QUOTE=FredMoore;2155403]Any of you guys know a hotel / restaurant that is for transients to be used for a M&G? I need a venue to meet and feed Pots that is decent enough but not a place Richmonders go for a night out, like the Jefferson, Hyatt, Omni, or marriott. Maybe Holiday Inn Airport, Something like that? Preferably Banquette seating, some privacy, a wine list, and privacy.[/QUOTE]Depends on which end of town you are talking about, or more specifically trying to avoid?

Richmond is very much a small town to be a city. Another option might be to take her out someplace like the Roslyn Center off of Parham / Chippenham where you overlook the James. Very picturesque. Not exactly a meal venue, but it's unique nonetheless.

I here you Jeez. However that only works if you do not LIVE in the area.

Fred does I think.

So -- here goes.

Basically, if in an area where you live. Uou have to go for somewhere your friends would NEVER go.

So look for hole in the wall ethnic places -- your date will like the idea of different.

I took a date to Havanna69 several years ago! Big mistake, an ex workmate (thank god drunk) came up to chat -- - I am 150% sure he knew what was going on!!

So -- play away from home.

However -- if you want to play close -- check out the Richmond fan student spots -- look at sustainable and out there.

Of course -- if the warden is into all this kind of thing-- ignore big time!

GW.

[QUOTE=FredMoore;2155403]Any of you guys know a hotel / restaurant that is for transients to be used for a M&G? I need a venue to meet and feed Pots that is decent enough but not a place Richmonders go for a night out, like the Jefferson, Hyatt, Omni, or marriott. Maybe Holiday Inn Airport, Something like that? Preferably Banquette seating, some privacy, a wine list, and privacy.[/QUOTE]

So after a 4 month break I am back on SA and I hit up this 19 year old. I sent her my standard message and she hit me back up. She was very eager to go to the FC. I initially emailed her saying that I was willing to take my time to get to know her and see if we had a connection and this is what she wrote back.

"Idk I don't see why we have to hang out a few times to see if there is a connection. I'm guessing your looking for sex and idk why there has to be a connection for that and I don't have time to waste to go on dates to determine that, I'm struggling and can't even afford to eat or anything and I have bills to pay not to be rude but it's true".

She says she doesn't have a car and lives with her mom.

When asked how much she said however much I could afford to give her.

So my question guys is, does this sound fishy? Is she just UTR. I am so paranoid with the recent LEO activity in RVA.

UPDATE#1: I offered her $100 and she wrote back saying "Ok $100 for what". This is sounding like a sting. HELP MY BROTHERS. I DON'T WANT TO THINK WITH THE LITTLE HEAD! NEED SOME COMMON SENSE

UPDATE#2: she wrote back and said something to affect that if I wanted to have sex for $100 than I can move on. So I wrote back "200?" and she said wrote back I guess so. Oh man I can't be thinking with my little head. Any help is appreciated. I am almost leaning toward cutting her loose.

[QUOTE=Ltnric;2155643]I am almost leaning toward cutting her loose.[/QUOTE]That's what I would do, just a UTR Nando-1 case.

[QUOTE=GuyWoodson;2155539]I here you Jeez. However that only works if you do not LIVE in the area.

Fred does I think.

[/QUOTE]Yeah I see that in his request now, sorry. I would just try to get her to meet somewhere at least 30 minutes away. Playing close to home is too risky.

[QUOTE=Ltnric;2155643]So after a 4 month break I am back on SA and I hit up this 19 year old. I sent her my standard message and she hit me back up. She was very eager to go to the FC. I initially emailed her saying that I was willing to take my time to get to know her and see if we had a connection and this is what she wrote back.

"Idk I don't see why we have to hang out a few times to see if there is a connection. I'm guessing your looking for sex and idk why there has to be a connection for that and I don't have time to waste to go on dates to determine that, I'm struggling and can't even afford to eat or anything and I have bills to pay not to be rude but it's true".

She says she doesn't have a car and lives with her mom.

When asked how much she said however much I could afford to give her.

So my question guys is, does this sound fishy? Is she just UTR. I am so paranoid with the recent LEO activity in RVA.

UPDATE#1: I offered her $100 and she wrote back saying "Ok $100 for what". This is sounding like a sting. HELP MY BROTHERS. I DON'T WANT TO THINK WITH THE LITTLE HEAD! NEED SOME COMMON SENSE

UPDATE#2: she wrote back and said something to affect that if I wanted to have sex for $100 than I can move on. So I wrote back "200?" and she said wrote back I guess so. Oh man I can't be thinking with my little head. Any help is appreciated. I am almost leaning toward cutting her loose.[/QUOTE]No offense but you just weren't thinking with either head. Offer girls a $ per visit. If they say no, move on. This back and forth already poisoned the well.

[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;2155739]No offense but you just weren't thinking with either head. Offer girls a $ per visit. If they say no, move on. This back and forth already poisoned the well.[/QUOTE]Hey Hollywood, when I first chatted with the girl I offered $100 and I've done that every single time. But maybe it's me or maybe it's the area I am in but $100 doesn't get me any where. I think most women in this area have a bad case of GPS. The first two times I got on SA $100 was a joke for me. IN this area I don't have a lot of options. I understand that $100 or move on is key but when you don't have options I need to up it. $200 is the cheapest I've ever had accepted by a girl. So believe me, I have followed your career closely and have used your tricks when ever I could. $100 just isn't getting me any where in this area. Believe me brother, I've tried. .

[QUOTE=Ltnric;2155753]Hey Hollywood, when I first chatted with the girl I offered $100 and I've done that every single time. But maybe it's me or maybe it's the area I am in but $100 doesn't get me any where. I think most women in this area have a bad case of GPS. The first two times I got on SA $100 was a joke for me. IN this area I don't have a lot of options. I understand that $100 or move on is key but when you don't have options I need to up it. $200 is the cheapest I've ever had accepted by a girl. So believe me, I have followed your career closely and have used your tricks when ever I could. $100 just isn't getting me any where in this area. Believe me brother, I've tried. .[/QUOTE]I guess the bigger point is, don't dicker. Make an offer, stick to it, get a positive response, or move on. In my case I need to get laid at least 20-25 days a month (and don't have an SO). So I have to low ball. If you are looking at once or twice a week, then go higher.

I've got a lot of updates to post but I never have the time to do it properly. Plus I have to be on DL due to SO.

Funny story today. Start texting a new spinner from the next town over. She states she can't drive. I ask if I can come to her place. She says yes. I ask if she has roommates. She says I'm in a recovery home, so yes there are many roommates. Huh? I ask what for, she says heroin addiction but she is better now. As long as she's back by 10 pm everything is good. Hmm?

She looks hot and I'm sure a former heroin addict has few boundaries. My other question was, are you healthy. She claims fit as a fiddle.

Skin.

I live near Richmond and second the advice from GW.

There's lots of hole in the wall student places, some are fairly decent. Airport area, Chesterfield, north side, Manakin / Goochland. Don't discount those areas depending on where you live.

Been reading this section for a couple of months now, amazed at the wealth of information.

[QUOTE=SkinJr;2155792]I've got a lot of updates to post but I never have the time to do it properly. Plus I have to be on DL due to SO.

Funny story today. Start texting a new spinner from the next town over. She states she can't drive. I ask if I can come to her place. She says yes. I ask if she has roommates. She says I'm in a recovery home, so yes there are many roommates. Huh? I ask what for, she says heroin addiction but she is better now. As long as she's back by 10 pm everything is good. Hmm?

She looks hot and I'm sure a former heroin addict has few boundaries. My other question was, are you healthy. She claims fit as a fiddle.

Skin.[/QUOTE]Addicts in recovery fuck like bunny rabbits.

[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;2156013]Addicts in recovery fuck like bunny rabbits.[/QUOTE]But they are also addicts that might want to feed their habits by stealing.

Make sure you don't take her back to your house.

[QUOTE=TomMajors;2155908]I live near Richmond and second the advice from GW.

There's lots of hole in the wall student places, some are fairly decent. Airport area, Chesterfield, north side, Manakin / Goochland. Don't discount those areas depending on where you live.

Been reading this section for a couple of months now, amazed at the wealth of information.[/QUOTE]Work took me through the Williamsburg / Toano area last week. Lots of lovely young ladies in the area. College girls as well as the Eastern Europeans come to the area for work. Is anybody having any success in the area? Sugar babies? UTRs?

[QUOTE=Ltnric;2155753]Hey Hollywood, when I first chatted with the girl I offered $100 and I've done that every single time. But maybe it's me or maybe it's the area I am in but $100 doesn't get me any where. I think most women in this area have a bad case of GPS. The first two times I got on SA $100 was a joke for me. IN this area I don't have a lot of options. I understand that $100 or move on is key but when you don't have options I need to up it. $200 is the cheapest I've ever had accepted by a girl. So believe me, I have followed your career closely and have used your tricks when ever I could. $100 just isn't getting me any where in this area. Believe me brother, I've tried. .[/QUOTE]I have to agree. $ never gets me anywhere. I think it is because a) the cost of living is pretty high where I live and b) the type of girl I am interested in tend more to GPS. I like hot white, asian or latin young ladies. I know HW loves mixed or AA spinners. In my experience, they definitely ask for less money. Maybe it is a self esteem issue. But in the DC area, even $$ is considered low-ball.

Norm!

P.S. Took the advice of the posters on here and told the POT that the friend is a no go. And basically blew her off. She was not happy with the allowance and not comfortable with me, so I think a pass is in order.

[QUOTE=NormGerd;2156144]I have to agree. $ never gets me anywhere. I think it is because a) the cost of living is pretty high where I live and b) the type of girl I am interested in tend more to GPS. I like hot white, asian or latin young ladies. I know HW loves mixed or AA spinners. In my experience, they definitely ask for less money. Maybe it is a self esteem issue. But in the DC area, even $$ is considered low-ball.

[/QUOTE]Your demographic is like mine -- I like the occasional mixed or AA girl but they tend to be the type that have more Caucasian / Asian / Latina features. AA girls do tend to have lower cost expectations, but there's another reason not to rule them out -- they typically have strong sex drives (which makes them generally enthusiastic fucks) and pretty much across the board they love Caucasian men, it's kind of like a status thing with them I think (I. E. Some seem to feel higher in rank if they are able to land a white boyfriend, or in the case of the bowl a white SD), so once you combine the sexual enthusiasm with the price advantage it's something to consider.

For your preferred demographic, $200 is a reasonable range. Lower than that will probably be possible in edge cases but the average backpage hooker probably makes better than $100 a pop, so if they are claiming to be an SB and going for that rate you have to ask yourself why.

Been primarily using CL and have had 2 good experiences.

SB19 - as Hollywood mentioned recovering addict, fucks like a champ. 31 YO. Very open. DP with vibrators and the whole nine yards. Constantly needs money so hope she is not back on the "stuff". But want to get a little too close so trying to temper the enthusiasm. She is active on sb sites so "it's not love".

SB20 - took a chance on a 43 yo off CL. Apologized for being heavy. She could use a few pounds, etc etc. Finally got her for $0. 5 and a tank of gas! What a ride. Wildest 2 hours I have had in a long time. Tight and wet, even after 4 kids. So me normal is young spinners but what a blast. I will try to see her a few more times and see just how kinky she can get. Of course totally fucked up personal life but I can't be a white knight. Just let them talk.

I hear it is the current thing to take pictures of what you eat. Here was my lunch today. Had an incredible cardio workout after that. Life is good.

[QUOTE=Beachesnole02;2156560]I hear it is the current thing to take pictures of what you eat. Here was my lunch today. Had an incredible cardio workout after that. Life is good.[/QUOTE]She must be an Asian kitty.

Cheers.

TM.

[QUOTE=AsianFrosty;2156025]But they are also addicts that might want to feed their habits by stealing.

Make sure you don't take her back to your house.[/QUOTE]I pretty much try to avoid addicts entirely. Especially if they were on the harder stuff, they are in a high risk group and could be carrying all kinds and very serious diseases. Everything would need to be covered, which pretty much defeats the purpose of me seeing SBs.

Also once an addict is back on that stuff, they will sell you out, blackmail you, or put you in danger just to get another hit. Even if I was single, I wouldn't want to risk dealing with an active addict. There's just too many other options out there.

If the SB is just a pothead, I'll make an exception. Potheads tend to be more lazy and aimless, than dangerous. But I'd stay far away from a girl who did hard drugs even if she's recovering. Addicts are the master's of deception and will swipe your valuables, financial information, and etc before you even knew what happened.

Appreciate the feedback for a M&G location. If anyone in Rich has a specific quiet hole in the wall they would like to share PM me. I'm thinking airport. Locals in my part of town should not be anywhere near an airport restaurant. Starbucks are just too small and public if the wrong person walks in.

RE: SB with wingman in tow, another negative is I had to treat two hungry girls to Lattes and a bunch of food. All for naught. I think I could have talked the target SB into a liaison if she were by herself.

Addicts are all Nando 1's. They become nonfunctional very quickly. Avoid them.

Week roundup:

1) down to SB#1 -very dear and passionate but not a spinner like I like them. Once / week with 2 x an option at no extra. Total 1. 75.

2) FB at 75 . No passion, just tank drainage. Looking for the next best thing. She was a spinner but is gaining and falling out of my interest zone.

3) SB #2 a 10/10 /7/7 in the wind. Did not communicate and just flaked. I don't get it but she either did not like the experience or $. This pisses me off more than anything!! Why can't they do the right thing and write a Dear John note for closure? It is still anonymous on line so they don't have to do it face to face. Just " thanks for the nice time but I did not connect. Good luck in your search. " How hard is that? By not saying anything they leave the door open for other followup and leads to more hassle for them. End the fucking thing!! Sorry for the rant.

4) POT # 1 Pulled a disappearance act last week. I sent a Dear Jane probe saying that if she found someone else it is OK but say so. Oh No she says, I still want to see you. ,but she is on line all day. End the fucking thing!

So this week has not been a good one in Sugar Town. Got to get back to the drawing board. I've been afraid to go on M&Gs since I am so wary of being seen. It's hard to do Sugar in an environment of fear.

[QUOTE=Beachesnole02;2156560]I hear it is the current thing to take pictures of what you eat. Here was my lunch today. Had an incredible cardio workout after that. Life is good.[/QUOTE]Does not look like a nice lunch bro, I would rather skip it.

[QUOTE=MuffDiver72;2151040]What is the best way to juggle a SB and a wife? I need some helpful advice.[/QUOTE]Well, the "best" way is you get a SB that is bisexual (aren't all women?) then while the SB is going down on your wife, you fuck the SB from behind. Everyone's happy.

I may have struck NP gold. The recently pictured spinner I posted and I went on a second date (post 6806). This time I got a room. Spent a great 3 hours together, 2 hours playing, 1 hour talking. I have her now at an 8/9/9/9. She is a self supporting, no drama girl that will have her BA In 3 months. She still has a clingy same age, broke ass XBF hanging around, but that's it.

As I have tapped almost every existing local girl, I started looking out side my area and found this girl 100 miles away. We met halfway the first two times but date 3 will be at my place. I think I am technically her second SD, but the first one only lasted about a month. Just a very submissive, small town, girl next door type, looking for her Daddy.

I have given up on fetlife for the time being. Its mostly just a poser site for people that think they"re hot. And some of them are. And a lot of them aren't. Also every time I go on there it freezes up my computer. I thought it was just a coincidence, but its every time. So I need to set it up on an old computer or something as I am not going to risk crashing my main workstation. I did send out a few messages and the only replies I got back were from pros.

So last week I hit up this AA young girl. She seems cute, fit and supposedly she had a SD that paid her $1,500 a month. On top of that she tells me that she is Pre-med and currently an undergrad at VCU. We scheduled to meet today for a meet and greet. This ***** confirms and texts me if I was going to spoil her at our meeting. I told her no that this was just a meet and greet. Finding out that she isn't going to get money to show up she cancels. She is in RVA and goes by be or Beatrice. Don't waste your time with this one, unless you like paying for women just to show up.

So I am back on SA, god knows why, but I reach out to this 42 year old and she admits that she is more UTR than SB. Well I am in the hobby so I don't mind. However, I know that UTR who are SB can also bring with them some drama. Can anyone give me any info on this girl? It would be greatly appreciated. She goes by the name Kristy and has a child.
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[QUOTE=Ltnric;2158500]So I am back on SA, god knows why, but I reach out to this 42 year old and she admits that she is more UTR than SB. Well I am in the hobby so I don't mind. However, I know that UTR who are SB can also bring with them some drama. Can anyone give me any info on this girl? It would be greatly appreciated. She goes by the name Kristy and has a child.
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[ATTACH=CONFIG]333996[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]333997[/ATTACH].[/QUOTE]Raiders Gal, who also goes by the handle CuriosIt on the Richmond Escort thread (she may also be on other Richmond threads). Personally, she's not even close to SB material. One of her most recent posts said she was looking for a couple more "regulars. " To her credit, she has received some good reviews. But an SB? Don't think so.

When I first met my SB, she didn't even have her license (though she had a car). She had big mental block on going to take the test. I told her just how vulnerable she was if she couldn't drive, and helped her out with the final skills she needed, and now she's been mobile for awhile.

But she has another mental block with finding her way around someplace new, so finally last week I used a coupon and got her a $90 gps. Just got the biggest thank-you text ever.

It really is all about treating them well.

[QUOTE=Walruscl;2159131]When I first met my SB, she didn't even have her license (though she had a car). She had big mental block on going to take the test. I told her just how vulnerable she was if she couldn't drive, and helped her out with the final skills she needed, and now she's been mobile for awhile.

But she has another mental block with finding her way around someplace new, so finally last week I used a coupon and got her a $90 gps. Just got the biggest thank-you text ever.

It really is all about treating them well.[/QUOTE]Overall, gentleman finish first in the sugar bowl.

Been chatting with this one for a week or so. Hope to meet her tomorrow. 18 AA 5'8" spinnerish with curves.

[QUOTE=ICantGetNo;2158622]Raiders Gal, who also goes by the handle CuriosIt on the Richmond Escort thread (she may also be on other Richmond threads). Personally, she's not even close to SB material. One of her most recent posts said she was looking for a couple more "regulars. " To her credit, she has received some good reviews. But an SB? Don't think so.[/QUOTE]She is worth a one time visit. A regular. I don't think so. Her pictures don't give you a true picture of how big she really is.

As I reenter the sugar bowl and plan to handle things much differently this time, I'm curious to know what you all have heard or experienced as the best places to find an abundance, or overflow of SB's might be? I have a week free coming up and would like to work an area. Preferably along the East coast. Any ideas on location where the SB setting is flourishing more then others?

On a side note, any of you went on something like a week long vacation with a SB before? I have a girl I've met a few times and she wants to get away with me. Her allowance would be $1000 for a week and the vacation costs would like run $4000. Seems a bit steep, but I am assured a week of daily wall banging sex with this girl. Would any of you mongers take on such an adventure? I feel like I would do better piecing that sort of money up and seeing multiple girls, but you never know what you're going to get. This is a sure deal.