Rants, Raves and Opinions AKA "The Octagon"

[QUOTE=3-MinutePassion;2868390]I won't disclose the name of the guy who PM'd me but I was recently contacted by a monger, several times, who lectured me for reporting on some gals he was seeing, saying it was leading to them getting bombarded by other mongers. I kid you not. The audacity of this guy.

We come here to help each other out by gathering intel and determining if the risk is worth the effort. And some guy has the nerve to tell me two of the gals are now out of the business because they are being "shitted on" as he put it.

I explained to him that for many of these gals, if you don't write a report, they will not get enough business to sustain themselves. He responded by saying maybe that would be best for them. Well, I think each provider can decide what is best for them.

To be clear, if I am ever asked to NOT file a report, either by a provider who is UTR or a monger who doesn't want me to do so, I will honor that and not file a report. Otherwise, I feel it is almost an obligation on my part to file a report because these gals' livelihoods depends on it.

It is not for me to make that determination.

So, to the guy who has sent me several PMs on this, don't send any more. I have been posting for many years on USA, and I try to report it as I see it. If you keep it up, I will out you.[/QUOTE]So I'm the guy this yoyo is talking about. I won't hide. Lets get a few things right first. The first girl we are talking about is Tiffany. You put her on here saying she needed help. You then had a monger or two give his opinion on her that was not flattering.

Second girl you reviewed that I had NEVER saw before who now lives in the same spot got some not so good reviews again and you came to her rescue as well. The only girl I was talking about was Tiffany who was trying to get her life back. Your so worried.

About fucking you don't see the forest for the trees. If you have a issue my good sir with me than be a man and talk to me! I don't sugar coat shit or hide between lines. Out me? Anytime M*er. My 2 cents, Zackty P.S., A2 this is the forum, no disrespects.

Is it just me, or does it seem like the prices are going up? I could have sworn that 80 used to be going rate for a hh and 140 hr just last year. It's not a huge price rise, but I'm noticing it.

[QUOTE=WorksAlot;2868609]Is it just me, or does it seem like the prices are going up? I could have sworn that 80 used to be going rate for a hh and 140 hr just last year. It's not a huge price rise, but I'm noticing it.[/QUOTE]Yeah I've noticed a little spike up as well. In the last couple of months at least I know of at least 2 providers going rate went from 120/ Hr to 150/ Hr. Great service on both however it's kinda hard on the pockets.

Stay safe out there.

MrJaay.

[QUOTE=WorksAlot;2868609]Is it just me, or does it seem like the prices are going up? I could have sworn that 80 used to be going rate for a hh and 140 hr just last year. It's not a huge price rise, but I'm noticing it.[/QUOTE]I agree. I have seen the same thing. But I push back every time. If I am seeing someone on a regular basis I expect rates to be reasonable. After all, not many ways a person can make this kind of money, and still have the degree of flexibility the job offers. I can see where they will charge more the first time since they don't fully know the risk or type of person they are dealing with on a first date. After that, though, lower risk and they can determine whether they want to repeat.

I think Buddah's back.

[QUOTE=ProVid;2868436]So, did you text her or not? Here's your old post. I like the part where you sound like an 8 year old "I already saw 2 chicks by then. " that made me laugh. True or not. The unnecessary detail which sounds like what a kid would think was impressive is fantastic. Sure. You fuck mad chicks all day long. You just don't know what they look like.

You may do your research, but you're just wrong. You feel that I am being argumentative. But it isn't up for argument. That's the point. They are two different people. Instead of just going "okay, my bad", like a normal person, you opt to scrabble around like an insecure little boy. How do you guys get through life if a simple correction breaks you down like this?

But thanks for signing your posts, genius.[/QUOTE]

But since you are her pimp, why did she take 6 hours to get back to me?

BFDeal.

[QUOTE=ProVid;2868436]So, did you text her or not? Here's your old post. I like the part where you sound like an 8 year old "I already saw 2 chicks by then. " that made me laugh. True or not. The unnecessary detail which sounds like what a kid would think was impressive is fantastic. Sure. You fuck mad chicks all day long. You just don't know what they look like.

You may do your research, but you're just wrong. You feel that I am being argumentative. But it isn't up for argument. That's the point. They are two different people. Instead of just going "okay, my bad", like a normal person, you opt to scrabble around like an insecure little boy. How do you guys get through life if a simple correction breaks you down like this?

But thanks for signing your posts, genius.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SinfulDreams;2868091]You should read reviews sometimes. Not that I have to defend myself anymore, but there were three. One has already seen me, the other two I am still in contact with since I have moved. That is what I do when I tell them it's a free session and something they won. I KEEP my promises. Now you had already said you could only afford such and such amount, and I was okay with it. But then to tell me I said I would give you a free session because of having to cancel to take care of my daughter, is absurd. I offered a discount on your already discounted session, which I normally don't do and don't have to do.

Now I am done responding on this matter, so good luck in your future endeavors.[/QUOTE]So let me get this straight? The day I schulde to see you I text that moring your good to see me. I text you in the afternoon you are good to see me. 15 minutes before 8 pm when I am coming to see you caneled on me saying you asre suddly feeling well? Ok I took that at face vaule. Why would make up you saying you offered me a free session if you did not text that?? And you are tell me you had to take care of your dauther 15 minutes before a session would start? That really does sound absurd. True I did tell you whati was able to pay like I do with any rovider I ever seen. It called being honest. I never said you did npt have to discount anything if you don't what want what I can afford then say no. Don't stand a person up 15 minutes before a session promise them something and forget you said it.

[QUOTE=BFDeal;2869012]I think Buddah's back.[/QUOTE]Man I hope so he had some nice providers. And was a easy going guy.

[QUOTE=BFDeal;2869048]But since you are her pimp, why did she take 6 hours to get back to me?

BFDeal.[/QUOTE]Probably because you didn't text her, right? Because you said you only text providers you're going to see. And you said you didn't text anybody. So which one didn't get back to you? Because if you didn't text them, what are you upset about?

Besides, you'd already fucked like 20 chicks by then, right? I mean w. T. f. Is she thinking?

So I'm clear, which one am I meant to be pimping? The one that doesn't advertise or seem to work anymore? Or the other one that doesn't advertise or seem to work anymore?

[QUOTE=BFDeal;2869012]I think Buddah's back.[/QUOTE]My bet is that he never really left, just changed his I'd and became a guy that had a string of UTRs he could provide contact info for.

And I'm not pointing fingers at anyone.

I dealt with him the first time back in the days when the large canine board was THE board for OH / KY / IN.

[QUOTE=WorksAlot;2868609]Is it just me, or does it seem like the prices are going up? I could have sworn that 80 used to be going rate for a hh and 140 hr just last year. It's not a huge price rise, but I'm noticing it.[/QUOTE]If the ladies' phones are ringing off the hook, they can raise the rate until business slows down or there's a new flavor of the month that reduces demand for their services.

[QUOTE=Thorbane;2869352]Man I hope so he had some nice providers. And was a easy going guy.[/QUOTE]If I remember correctly he found Anna Marie while he was waiting in line at Graeter's and she was behind him with her kids.

[QUOTE=BFDeal;2869012]I think Buddah's back.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=WarlockKy;2869385]My bet is that he never really left, just changed his I'd and became a guy that had a string of UTRs he could provide contact info for.

And I'm not pointing fingers at anyone.

I dealt with him the first time back in the days when the large canine board was THE board for OH / KY / IN.[/QUOTE]He's gone. Retired to focus on his child and bought himself a bar. Living the drama free life on the straight and narrow.

[QUOTE=DNut;2869587]He's gone. Retired to focus on his child and bought himself a bar. Living the drama free life on the straight and narrow.[/QUOTE]And you know this to be absolutely, positively certain! He may had left, I have serious doubts, but the straight and narrow? HaHaHaHa a guy like that, never.

I texted her at around 10:30 am asking if she was available. She got back to me right away saying yes she was. I asked for her incall location. Didn't hear from her again until after 5 pm, saying she was ready for incall. I planned on seeing her, and if proven to be reliable, I would still see her. I don't remember if I texted her back. I did not text her to ask about the bra incident, so therefore you are correct about the research and to answer that question, I will say "my bad. " So, Buddah, you're back in the biz?

BFDeal.

[QUOTE=ProVid;2869381]Probably because you didn't text her, right? Because you said you only text providers you're going to see. And you said you didn't text anybody. So which one didn't get back to you? Because if you didn't text them, what are you upset about?

Besides, you'd already fucked like 20 chicks by then, right? I mean w. T. f. Is she thinking?

So I'm clear, which one am I meant to be pimping? The one that doesn't advertise or seem to work anymore? Or the other one that doesn't advertise or seem to work anymore?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Santa22;2762685]Karmyn Bankz is outing some guy on twitter.[/QUOTE]What the hell does that have to do with you? You have no idea what that was about so do the right thing and mind your business. I haven't been in the game in enough time that you would think that you'd have someone else's shit to talk about.

What's been going on in the hobby? Would love someone to fill me in LOL.

[QUOTE=KarmynBankz;2870487]What's been going on in the hobby? Would love someone to fill me in LOL.[/QUOTE]I read through the threads and figured it out. Geesh LOL. Same crap, same people, different day LOL.

This is my rant. Does it bug the hell out of anybody else when a provider wants to wait till you are in the parking lot before she tells you her room number?? I have to travel about 50 miles to make a hook up and I like to know exactly where I am meeting someone before I take off. I have been burnt before by making the trip and not hearing back from the provider but not this one. This one I have been arguing with says she don't give out the number because some guys just show up whenever or later without notice. I guess a few bad apples spoils it for everyone. I have met with her before and had the same conversation but she still will not give her rm number before I leave. I guess every provider has her own set of rules but don't like getting lumped in with the others that has caused her problems in the past.

Sexinicole here.

I've been dealing with pychos posting blatant lies as reviews and I find it ridiculous we can't defend ourselves.

Anyone else had to deal with this kind of shit.

Because I hate dramas and usually ignore it but now it's messing with my income and I live in a hotel meaning I have to make money daily.

I really wish admin would delete reviews the we Can prove are lies!

[QUOTE=BFDeal;2869012]I think Buddah's back.[/QUOTE]Ain't getting into this one Mark it up to good behavior and keeping promises BMack.

[QUOTE=Dillsborodave;2871211]This is my rant. Does it bug the hell out of anybody else when a provider wants to wait till you are in the parking lot before she tells you her room number?? I have to travel about 50 miles to make a hook up and I like to know exactly where I am meeting someone before I take off. I have been burnt before by making the trip and not hearing back from the provider but not this one. This one I have been arguing with says she don't give out the number because some guys just show up whenever or later without notice. I guess a few bad apples spoils it for everyone. I have met with her before and had the same conversation but she still will not give her rm number before I leave. I guess every provider has her own set of rules but don't like getting lumped in with the others that has caused her problems in the past.[/QUOTE]Not getting the room number until you're in the lot is prudent and pretty standard. There is an element of safety too, but that's for another time.

What is infuriating, at least to me, is when they don't give a final address; insisting on scavenger hunt step-by-step instructions. I flatly tell them I am not leaving the house until I have an address. Once the car stops, it is not starting back up again except to go home.

Their loss. I still got money in my pocket and MY bills are paid.

[QUOTE=KarmynBankz;2870487]What's been going on in the hobby? Would love someone to fill me in LOL.[/QUOTE]OMG I've missed you so much about time we get a girl back that has a backbone I want to thank you also for being there throughout a very hard time from me you're my sister from another mister.

[QUOTE=DNut;2871282]Not getting the room number until you're in the lot is prudent and pretty standard. There is an element of safety too, but that's for another time.

What is infuriating, at least to me, is when they don't give a final address; insisting on scavenger hunt step-by-step instructions. I flatly tell them I am not leaving the house until I have an address. Once the car stops, it is not starting back up again except to go home.

Their loss. I still got money in my pocket and MY bills are paid.[/QUOTE]Most of these girls have no perception of space & time. We are dealing with low IQ people here. You can tell them that you will be at the motel / intersection at such and such a time and to text you with the room # or address, and they will still text you a dozen times asking if you are still coming while you are in route. Most have no consideration that to respond to their text you are risking personal danger while driving. It is very annoying. Once I accept that the pic is real and I agree to the time, place & donation, I'm there. I have terminated multiple dates due to this type of run around BS.

[QUOTE=SexiStrawberry;2871229]Sexinicole here.

I've been dealing with pychos posting blatant lies as reviews and I find it ridiculous we can't defend ourselves.

Anyone else had to deal with this kind of shit.

Because I hate dramas and usually ignore it but now it's messing with my income and I live in a hotel meaning I have to make money daily.

I really wish admin would delete reviews the we Can prove are lies![/QUOTE]There isn't a business in the world that hasn't had to deal with negative reviews. There isn't a single chick on this forum that hasn't gotten several. The information here is about the median and the guys know that. The only thing you're doing here is drawing MORE attention to the bad review.

The USASG has never and will never delete reviews because chicks say they are false. For many reasons, it's impossible to prove, I sure as fuck aint wasting time trying to figure out what is true or not, and as soon as we follow TER's model of deleting posts because chicks don't like them then the 400,000 guys here go somewhere else.

I've been doing this shit for a long, long, long fucking time in tons of different industries and I don't care what the product or service is there is no way for a provider of a product or service to win at what you're trying. The answer is the same in every business.

Listen to the complaint, thank the person for bringing it to your attention, offer to fix, and examine your business to see if you can improve. Doesn't matter if you're right or wrong, when you're in the service business, all that matters is perceptions. If the guy is straight up lying and you do that then every other guy on the forum is going to see you doing that. Now what they are seeing is you fighting.

You're welcome.

A2.

[QUOTE=SilkyWetness;2871390]OMG I've missed you so much about time we get a girl back that has a backbone I want to thank you also for being there throughout a very hard time from me you're my sister from another mister.[/QUOTE]You just made my day. I've missed you too!! Lots of stuff has changed but I'll keep in touch so we can talk. Muah!!

[QUOTE=KarmynBankz;2870476]What the hell does that have to do with you? You have no idea what that was about so do the right thing and mind your business. I haven't been in the game in enough time that you would think that you'd have someone else's shit to talk about.[/QUOTE]Eh. Seems like a serious concern for most of us that a provider would do out someone publicly. Minding our business is knowing whether we can trust someone to be discreet.

Why would you decide to bring it back up and call attention to it. It's not something that elicited much notice at the time. Since you don't deny it, I guess it's true?

[QUOTE=SexiStrawberry;2871229]Sexinicole here.

I've been dealing with pychos posting blatant lies as reviews and I find it ridiculous we can't defend ourselves.

Anyone else had to deal with this kind of shit.

Because I hate dramas and usually ignore it but now it's messing with my income and I live in a hotel meaning I have to make money daily.

I really wish admin would delete reviews the we Can prove are lies![/QUOTE]Interesting that she is finally thanking a few mongers that have seen her. After my good, bad, and ugly post this morning about Sexynicole maybe it woke her up. But I doubt it. I saw that A2 deleted one of her posts.

As far as my posts most have been very positive for the girls. Heck, I even had a positive one for Nicole awhile ago. But when I have a negative experience with a girl I post that also. These girls change. That's why we continue to post. Be safe.

[QUOTE=DNut;2871282]What is infuriating, at least to me, is when they don't give a final address; insisting on scavenger hunt step-by-step instructions. I flatly tell them I am not leaving the house until I have an address.[/QUOTE]If they can't tell by the way I communicate that I am legit then it's either my poor communication etiquette or thier lack of experience. In either case my time is way to valuable for cat & mouse games and I simply inform them of that.

When they can't even tell me a street name. I have no problem not getting a room # until I arrive yet it is usually a better experience all the way around when I know ahead just from a comfy trust factor.

[QUOTE=ProVid;2871613]Eh. Seems like a serious concern for most of us that a provider would do out someone publicly. Minding our business is knowing whether we can trust someone to be discreet.

Why would you decide to bring it back up and call attention to it. It's not something that elicited much notice at the time. Since you don't deny it, I guess it's true?[/QUOTE]Have I told you people not to come for me LOL. My Twitter is locked. I had a stalker not even in the hobby stalking me coming to the store I own and I had to eventually deal with it. But that's beyond the point. Who the hell are you to even say anything? Have you seen me? Do I know you? So as I told the other little one. Mind your fucking business! Please. I brought it up cause I can. I'm not like you hiding behind a keyboard. I saw it and said something. Must I keep telling you losers to leave me be? LOL.

[QUOTE=ProVid;2871613]Eh. Seems like a serious concern for most of us that a provider would do out someone publicly. Minding our business is knowing whether we can trust someone to be discreet.

Why would you decide to bring it back up and call attention to it. It's not something that elicited much notice at the time. Since you don't deny it, I guess it's true?[/QUOTE]Mind your business! It's a pussy board! Get pussy, don't act like one!

[QUOTE=ProVid;2871613]Eh. Seems like a serious concern for most of us that a provider would do out someone publicly. Minding our business is knowing whether we can trust someone to be discreet.

Why would you decide to bring it back up and call attention to it. It's not something that elicited much notice at the time. Since you don't deny it, I guess it's true?[/QUOTE]If I can't read the threads to see what's going on then what the heck is the point of this board? If I can't inquire about someone that is obviously taking my private account on Twitter and letting someone like you know about it, I feel like he's the one that needs to have a little more discretion. I am Karmyn Bankz. I have made a great name for mysel. And trust and believe USA is not the place that my money comes from so it's a non factor really. I'm a 400/ hr girl now and If I post on Twitter that an ex boyfriend is stalking me, how the FUCK does that have anything to do with YOU my friend? Anything else you need to ask or say or whatever. Inbox me because this is tacky. Have a nice day!

[QUOTE=DNut;2869587]He's gone. Retired to focus on his child and bought himself a bar. Living the drama free life on the straight and narrow.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Harpo2u;2869695]And you know this to be absolutely, positively certain! He may had left, I have serious doubts, but the straight and narrow? HaHaHaHa a guy like that, never.[/QUOTE]As in not running an agency, but either helping UTRs get started or helping them to transition to full time.

Girl in the bar. "I need to find another job so that I can afford. ".

Bartender. "I might know a way. ".

Girl in the bar. "I wouldn't even know how to get started, I'd get busted my first time. ".

Etc, etc, etc.

Wanted to say thank you for all the help with the driveway!! It's great the layers was the best idea!! Water still sinks down between layers but no soil coming up! Awesome job! Even looks more curb appealing too! XOXOXOXO and P.S.: there out there! Don't trust SKIPNET stay where it's not broken! That app is 100% NO NO!

[QUOTE=KarmynBankz;2872214]Have I told you people not to come for me LOL. My Twitter is locked. I had a stalker not even in the hobby stalking me coming to the store I own and I had to eventually deal with it. But that's beyond the point. Who the hell are you to even say anything? Have you seen me? Do I know you? So as I told the other little one. Mind your fucking business! Please. I brought it up cause I can. I'm not like you hiding behind a keyboard. I saw it and said something. Must I keep telling you losers to leave me be? LOL.[/QUOTE]You said something which doesn't actually make sense. That the subject of a provider outing someone on twitter wasn't "our" business. I pointed out how it kinda is, if you really think about it. Our business. Because the business of this place is talking about pussy and whether that pussy is worth taking the risks.

I'll leave it at this. You made it [B]public business[/B] when you posted 3 posts about something nobody cared about from a few months back. We didn't bring it up or give a shit about. Since you dredged it up, it is reasonable to assume you are looking for some sort of comment from people here. Why bring it up otherwise?

Come for you? God fucking help anyone who tells you the truth.

[QUOTE=KarmynBankz;2872218]Mind your business! It's a pussy board! Get pussy, don't act like one![/QUOTE]LOL! I'll probably never save enough to see her, but that comment made me laugh, which for some reason always gets my little man's attention. Ha!

[QUOTE=ProVid;2872723]You said something which doesn't actually make sense. That the subject of a provider outing someone on twitter wasn't "our" business. I pointed out how it kinda is, if you really think about it. Our business. Because the business of this place is talking about pussy and whether that pussy is worth taking the risks.

I'll leave it at this. You made it [B]public business[/B] when you posted 3 posts about something nobody cared about from a few months back. We didn't bring it up or give a shit about. Since you dredged it up, it is reasonable to assume you are looking for some sort of comment from people here. Why bring it up otherwise?

Come for you? God fucking help anyone who tells you the truth.[/QUOTE]If that's all you have to say back then you did your worst. Evidently we all know who isn't getting pussy.