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[QUOTE=Murrican;5970145]I'd say being 70 and having the stamina to bang for 2 hours counts as a special circumstance.

Kudos to you.[/QUOTE]A couple of girls back I saw an old pro. After about 20 minutes she was doing the "you gonna cum for me baby" talk. I took to her 45 minutes, because that is my personal minimum to consider it a date. I knew she wasn't happy, but oh well. She txted me a few days later and said if I wanted to see her again it would be double my rate. I passed. The girl before her was an 18 year old Curious suburban girl. After 2 hours she was shell shocked. Totally ghosted me afterward even though she said she had a great time. But the ideal date would be a sleep over so I can do one at night and one in the morning. And truthfully I know I am lucky. A very good SB friend of mine who only dates in the 60-70 range told me she doesn't have sex with half the guys she dates. But the money is too good to ignore. And she would love to have sex with these guys (because she is horny), but they just can't get it up even with V or C. So you younger guys, don't drink / drug too much, and stay in shape to the best of your ability.

There is a joke on tiktok where the girls says "every guy wants a girl who fucks a lot until they find a girl who fucks a lot". But most of these girls are the same. 20-30 minutes and they are done or want to be done. It's very typical to see a girl in her profile say "I want a guy that can keep up with me". Yeah right, lol. I would say it is one of the main reasons I got started with this hobby. You can not count on one girl to do it all. It's not realistic. Have two girls in a day if that's what it takes, and I have read more than a few posts of guys doing 2 or 3 in a day. It's also one of the reasons I started low balling. It's just not affordable for me to have that kind of schedule. And I also believe its one reason girls take my low ball offer. In the back of their mind they know if they are going to ask for 3-5 bills they are going to have to really put out and have no desire to do that. So they take less thinking it might be a quicky or whatever. But like a hillbilly marine on TV used to say "surprise, surprise".

I know from reading the escort posts that guys get very specific about what they want and for how long and how much is it going to be for all that (and still don't get what was agreed to half the time). But I never talk too much about sex before hitting the FC. The only thing I say is I want a minimum of an hour of their "time". I am sure they are thinking some of that is going to be chatting or whatever. And sometimes I will tell them a thing or two that I like in the M&G or before that while in the txting phase and sometimes that ends it right there. Because at my rate they are just not interested. But no problem as there are enough that are. And I am hoping to raise my rate soon (if finances permit) as this inflation etc is just killing the market. But I still say at $$, with some game, politeness and transparency there are more than enough hot girls of any race than you could fuck in a lifetime on seeking.

Saw her before the pandemic, so things could have changed, but still.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/4b8875ce-3121-406e-8364-484a5fbd1def[/URL]

[QUOTE=StudBucket;5970418]Hey Murrican and Hollywood G, I was just curious and wanted to see if guys are regularly expecting 2 pops from the Sugar Baby. This was my first time with girl and I did not clarify it beforehand but did tell her earlier today that if I see her, I will be having expectations of having more than 1 round. I for the most part can knock out 2 pops in an evening. But on occassion, I have done just 1 pop if it is late, or I am just too tired but its rare.[/QUOTE]I usually go 3 pops. 2 in more or less rapid succession, separated by maybe 45 min, and then one a few hours later, after we watch a movie. That last one is usually hard to get up but I can usually pull it together.

I'm in my forties so this probably seems pretty impressive. But I'm not like that dude who goes for 1-2 hours on this thread. I might maybe in a blue moon last 10 minutes. My first pop is usually 3-4 minutes. It's not early ejac- it's just that I'm usually amped up for that first pass.

I know she is mention in the OC thread but any of the LA county had any encounter with this Cutie?

Any information will help thank you?



[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/825094c6-5fb8-42d3-acc7-a8f115e18ece[/URL]

Just curious if any of you have seen this gorgeous SB?

Any information will be great?



[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/04f54516-9673-4fe1-b88b-1c254589a296[/URL]

This one is on my bucket list. Have anyone they this cutie?

Any information will help.



[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/9289d1ff-0f54-4f61-8031-89b79c365d94[/URL]

[QUOTE=Wyerles1;5972033]This one is on my bucket list. Have anyone they this cutie?

Any information will help.



[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/9289d1ff-0f54-4f61-8031-89b79c365d94[/URL][/QUOTE]Why anyone would give this average looking Milf their hard earned money is beyond my belief when there are so many hot young chicks on Seeking but to each his own.

[QUOTE=StudBucket;5973532]Why anyone would give this average looking Milf their hard earned money is beyond my belief when there are so many hot young chicks on Seeking but to each his own.[/QUOTE]I'm with homeboy on this one.

That chick is mediocre.

I was curious, so here's some number for everyone. Seems 22 is the median age.

White + slim + LA Area, by age:

Seeking Age Distribution
18 . . . 53.

19 . . . 158.

20 . . . 251.

21 . . . 332.

22 . . . 397 ** highest.

23 . . . 350.

24 . . . 333.

25 . . . 332.

26 . . . 320.

27 . . . 253.

28 . . . 246.

29 . . . 191.

[QUOTE=RanManCan;5974400]I was curious, so here's some number for everyone. Seems 22 is the median age.

White + slim + LA Area, by age:

Seeking Age Distribution
18 . . . 53.

19 . . . 158.

20 . . . 251.

21 . . . 332.

22 . . . 397 ** highest.

23 . . . 350.

24 . . . 333.

25 . . . 332.

26 . . . 320.

27 . . . 253.

28 . . . 246.

29 . . . 191.[/QUOTE]Makes sense.

22 is right after college for many girls, who now have to worry about student loan debt, and all expenses related to starting independent life: rent, bills, transportation, etc. Thankfully, hot girls are able to leverage their best physical attributes at the prime of their lives.

Most of these girls will still fuck guys their age and prioritize them for relationships. Make sure you get tested if you're going bare with them.

The numbers taper off from 27, when many of these girls begin to settle into long-term relationships with betas after riding the cock carousel for 10+ years.

Those who can't or won't settle in their late 20's are usually already divorced, out of a serious relationship, or unable to pair bond, and are often mentally and emotionally damaged goods. They may have a kid or two in the mix, or have an incurable STI. Their looks are beginning to fade. These SBs find that they have to make concessions as to the allowance amount and / or the type of men they date.

SBs past their mid 30's are often miserable and pathetic, usually with heavy baggage in the form of kids, drug abuse, debt, mental and / or physical illness. These aren't dating material, just good for a one night stand.

Saw her a couple times in the last weeks but have to leave la for a while so happy to share:

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/ffaa1483-f0cf-40ec-b376-c4f7e5b9d4c0[/URL]

Cheers.

Met her a couple times in the last weeks but have to leave la for a while so happy to share. Super fun and relaxed sub.

Have fun.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/ffaa1483-f0cf-40ec-b376-c4f7e5b9d4c0[/URL]

[QUOTE=Deschlang;5974593]Saw her a couple times in the last weeks but have to leave la for a while so happy to share:

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/ffaa1483-f0cf-40ec-b376-c4f7e5b9d4c0[/URL]

Cheers.[/QUOTE]Man those are some low ass standards. Cmon you can do better than this.

At MetalKnight21 - Got a number for Bri?

[QUOTE=MetalKnight21;5943443]Met with Bri this weekend.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/4a231a1f-c9ed-44cb-9bf1-4cd107a677dd[/URL]

Had some fun she's on bc so she let me cip. Really tall, used to play volleyball at USC. Great body, and was a good time in bed. 400. Not sure what her situation was, didn't sound too desperate when we met but sounded pretty bad after we met. Kept asking for gas money so I decided not to repeat. Anyone else seen her?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Murrican;5974777]Man those are some low ass standards. Cmon you can do better than this.[/QUOTE]I am going to with Mr. Murrican on this one. This chick is maybe a 4 or 5 and considering how easy it is to get SBs out there that are 7's and up.

[QUOTE=StudBucket;5973532]Why anyone would give this average looking Milf their hard earned money is beyond my belief when there are so many hot young chicks on Seeking but to each his own.[/QUOTE]I was reading other reviews about people not paying her anything, but just give her a good bottle of wine and she'll let you cream pie her numerous times.

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;5970689]Saw her before the pandemic, so things could have changed, but still.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/4b8875ce-3121-406e-8364-484a5fbd1def[/URL][/QUOTE]What is her rate?

[QUOTE=Wyerles1;5971757]I know she is mention in the OC thread but any of the LA county had any encounter with this Cutie?

Any information will help thank you?



[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/825094c6-5fb8-42d3-acc7-a8f115e18ece[/URL][/QUOTE]She was very flakey with me. Would respond out of the blue and then disappear.

[QUOTE=BigBear818;5975440]I was reading other reviews about people not paying her anything, but just give her a good bottle of wine and she'll let you cream pie her numerous times.[/QUOTE]I still couldn't do it even for free, man. You go ahead though, take her for a spin, and report back to us.

[QUOTE=LargeEss;5975631]She was very flakey with me. Would respond out of the blue and then disappear.[/QUOTE]Were you able to meet her Large Ess?

[QUOTE=NutritionFacts;5962212]With everything going on, is inflation going to bring up or down the avg. Ppm?[/QUOTE]I have been on and off doing SB / SD about 5 years. When I started, a lot of girls are okay with 300 ppm, pretty and young one about 400. Quality girls were abundant in Seeking. I came back recently (about 3 months ago), things are changed. Seeking is getting strict, girls quality went down or the pretty one has GPS. Seems the rate now is 500 ppm, some will do 400 but rare. If they think they are pretty, they will ask for 800-1000. I miss those days where girls are easy to find with reasonable ppm.

[QUOTE=LargeEss;5975631]She was very flakey with me. Would respond out of the blue and then disappear.[/QUOTE]Met her in the past for a meet and greet. Picture is very misleading. She is very big width wise to say it nicely.

[QUOTE=CumInPussy;5977638]I have been on and off doing SB / SD about 5 years. When I started, a lot of girls are okay with 300 ppm, pretty and young one about 400. Quality girls were abundant in Seeking. I came back recently (about 3 months ago), things are changed. Seeking is getting strict, girls quality went down or the pretty one has GPS. Seems the rate now is 500 ppm, some will do 400 but rare. If they think they are pretty, they will ask for 800-1000. I miss those days where girls are easy to find with reasonable ppm.[/QUOTE]I'm pretty generous but I'd never pay 800-1000 to a girl no matter how hot. At the risk of sounding sanctimonious, you can do a lot of good in the world with 1000 dollars and helping a dumb girl buy a pair of pradas ain't on that list. This is why I don't Seek in tier 1 US cities. Man in some Tier 1. 5 European cities (big cities but not London Paris Berlin etc) girls are thrilled to get dinner and a night for 350 euros. And top shelf chickenheads. One vagina I'd literally consider flying to whichever European country I visit next she was so hot. Once you've done that, 1000 dollars seems absurd. Ain't no Brittany or Madison worth that.

So found this cute 19 year old who I met with for Coffee yesterday. After coffee we walked along the beach, talked some more and decided to go to the FC. Girl had some skills and she was reasonably enough priced where I'd gladly keep her on the roster but here's what intrigued me and don't know what to think.

We finished and we starting discussing experiences. To which the topic of 3 some came up and she asked if I'd be interested in some friends. I said of course and she showed me their pics, but then she swiped by this other pic of a girl who looked sort of like her and she was like I can introduce you to my sister. First thought was damn she's a clinger but then she was like we can all go out together. Then my thought was ok so this must be like a sorority sister you know where the coin each other "big sis and little sis. " So I was like nice so this is like your sister from college. She's like no my older sister and shows a family photo from a vacation.

She says they're down to get together and I have us planned to meet tomorrow. Not sure how I feel but it'll be one for the books.

Somehow, I feel like that advice columnist Ann Landers, who used to get letters she would publish but then say 'You Yalies keep trying', because frat boys from Yale would always send in elaborate fakes.

I have (separately in time and space) met both a mother (first) and her daughter (second) from SA. I took each to dinner, but neither was prepared to pull the trigger on an arrangement. That was the closest I have some to something like this.

Don't you dare pass this opportunity up. Don't even. Go and don't look back.

[QUOTE=Dsteezy;5978678]So found this cute 19 year old who I met with for Coffee yesterday. After coffee we walked along the beach, talked some more and decided to go to the FC. Girl had some skills and she was reasonably enough priced where I'd gladly keep her on the roster but here's what intrigued me and don't know what to think.

We finished and we starting discussing experiences. To which the topic of 3 some came up and she asked if I'd be interested in some friends. I said of course and she showed me their pics, but then she swiped by this other pic of a girl who looked sort of like her and she was like I can introduce you to my sister. First thought was damn she's a clinger but then she was like we can all go out together. Then my thought was ok so this must be like a sorority sister you know where the coin each other "big sis and little sis. " So I was like nice so this is like your sister from college. She's like no my older sister and shows a family photo from a vacation.

She says they're down to get together and I have us planned to meet tomorrow. Not sure how I feel but it'll be one for the books.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Murrican;5979523]Don't you dare pass this opportunity up. Don't even. Go and don't look back.[/QUOTE]I envy you. Lucky SOB.

[QUOTE=Murrican;5978192]I'm pretty generous but I'd never pay 800-1000 to a girl no matter how hot. At the risk of sounding sanctimonious, you can do a lot of good in the world with 1000 dollars and helping a dumb girl buy a pair of pradas ain't on that list. This is why I don't Seek in tier 1 US cities. Man in some Tier 1. 5 European cities (big cities but not London Paris Berlin etc) girls are thrilled to get dinner and a night for 350 euros. And top shelf chickenheads. One vagina I'd literally consider flying to whichever European country I visit next she was so hot. Once you've done that, 1000 dollars seems absurd. Ain't no Brittany or Madison worth that.[/QUOTE]I personally would not pay any SB more than 600 max but of course she must be super hot, give PSE, GFE, and not time limit for that much. Otherwise, its 4-5 normally arranged on SA. I have had a few gals with GPS quote me 2 k or even 3 k (1 girl) for which I responded " ha ha you are delusional" and immediately blocked them. SA is a mixed bag of pricing but as one poster just said the hotter ones are now trying to get 600-800 per date which is crazy.

[QUOTE=StudBucket;5979638]I personally would not pay any SB more than 600 max but of course she must be super hot, give PSE, GFE, and not time limit for that much. Otherwise, its 4-5 normally arranged on SA. I have had a few gals with GPS quote me 2 k or even 3 k (1 girl) for which I responded " ha ha you are delusional" and immediately blocked them. SA is a mixed bag of pricing but as one poster just said the hotter ones are now trying to get 600-800 per date which is crazy.[/QUOTE]I think there are examples of both too little and too much on this post series. For me, if a girl has a menu or a time limit, she's not a SB, she's a pro (by whatever term you want to use). That's the whole point of finding a SB. To have interactions that aren't purely a transaction. I have given an incredible hot 30's single mom (whose pic I have posted here before) 600 for one date, that entailed a night / morning at a luxury coastal hotel. I will take that memory to my grave. I spent a month + w / her on a variety of dates that included that FC visit, which was the only compensated time she received.

I was asked by SA to verify my account with my CADL front and back and a selfie. They turned off my account for like an hour while they verified. Has this happened to anyone else?

[QUOTE=StudBucket;5979638]I personally would not pay any SB more than 600 max but of course she must be super hot, give PSE, GFE, and not time limit for that much. Otherwise, its 4-5 normally arranged on SA. I have had a few gals with GPS quote me 2 k or even 3 k (1 girl) for which I responded " ha ha you are delusional" and immediately blocked them. SA is a mixed bag of pricing but as one poster just said the hotter ones are now trying to get 600-800 per date which is crazy.[/QUOTE]Serious point and I'm just trying to be helpful. I would not reply back mocking a girl if she gives delusional pricing. I've heard on this board that on the girl side of the app they can flag guys for disrespectful behavior and it's not treated as due process issue. Guys find themselves in the penalty box. I would just say sorry we have different expectations here but best of luck to you. Walk away classy.

[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;5979925]I was asked by SA to verify my account with my CADL front and back and a selfie. They turned off my account for like an hour while they verified. Has this happened to anyone else?[/QUOTE]It hasn't happened to me. Well, it did on one of my profiles, where I was accused of having 'photos not of the person' somehow. Because I have a SO and don't have real pics of me on the site (too risky, re the Ashley Madison hack), I could not do this, and had to abandon that profile.

However, HG, if someone like you who has had a profile there forever has suffered this, it can happen to anyone. Not a good sign. We're all vulnerable. Now, the fact that I was recently invited (from my main and now only profile) to this 'customer advice committee' or whatever it is they are calling it might indicate that they think I am a decent reliable guy, not engaged in any commercial sexual activity. But who knows? Perhaps this is just how they roll these days, that they are going through their whole user base and asking everyone to do this. If so, many of us married guys are sunk. That would be truly tragic. Surely they realize this at the site, that if they required all users to have I'd-verified profiles, their users would plummet.

It is worth keeping in mind that if you are negotiating $ with a girl electronically, you are going to get her 'escort' pricing. YK, if you turn out to be the ugliest, creepiest guy she can imagine. I never never negotiate price either on the site or by text. People are way more sensitive to rejection face to face. There is great evidence of that on all social media. People who would never make a critical comment in person become lions when they can flame you anonymously online.

So, I am very familiar w / some reports of girls initially starting quite high, but getting to reasonable with some jiu-jitsu and persistence. I did a M&G recently with an older single mom, flight attendant. Quite pretty, looks like Rita Wilson, skinny and sexy, super nice. I asked what her needs were, she responds that she has a gorgeous GF who always asks for a thousand, but of course she never gets any dates off of SA, so that might be the reason. Now, my POT isn't asking for 1000 there, right, but she is trying to get the conversation started at that level. The negotiating ploy of anchoring. I didn't exactly take the bait. I just said 'some girls get that, I am sure. ' And I think that is true. There are a few whales on the site, especially in LA. I mean, Charlie Sheen was paying that much when he was seeing Heidi Fleiss's hookers, so why wouldn't there be. That just isn't in the cards for me personally. I typically go with something like 'I am not poor and I am not cheap, and I am definitely not trying to get something for nothing. There is a limit on what I can provide, though, because I have to hide my sugar from my SO. ' I didn't go farther at that M&G, but followed up w / her later, checked out that she really did want to FC. She seems genuinely excited by the prospect, and readily agreed to 400 with consideration to my overall costs (hotel, etc.).

Negotiate in person. It is more trouble, but you'll get her best rate. She might realize upon meeting you that she actually likes you / is attracted to you. Don't discount the possibility that you are truly playing into a kink of hers and she can really see the virtue of an older guy. I am not quite as old as HG but close, and definitely have no trouble w / 20's girls.

I have posted a fair amount about this, but perhaps that was on the Richmond or San Diego sugar threads lately.

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;5980005]It is worth keeping in mind that if you are negotiating $ with a girl electronically, you are going to get her 'escort' pricing. YK, if you turn out to be the ugliest, creepiest guy she can imagine. I never never negotiate price either on the site or by text. People are way more sensitive to rejection face to face. There is great evidence of that on all social media. People who would never make a critical comment in person become lions when they can flame you anonymously online.

So, I am very familiar w / some reports of girls initially starting quite high, but getting to reasonable with some jiu-jitsu and persistence. I did a M&G recently with an older single mom, flight attendant. Quite pretty, looks like Rita Wilson, skinny and sexy, super nice. I asked what her needs were, she responds that she has a gorgeous GF who always asks for a thousand, but of course she never gets any dates off of SA, so that might be the reason. Now, my POT isn't asking for 1000 there, right, but she is trying to get the conversation started at that level. The negotiating ploy of anchoring. I didn't exactly take the bait. I just said 'some girls get that, I am sure. ' And I think that is true. There are a few whales on the site, especially in LA. I mean, Charlie Sheen was paying that much when he was seeing Heidi Fleiss's hookers, so why wouldn't there be. That just isn't in the cards for me personally. I typically go with something like 'I am not poor and I am not cheap, and I am definitely not trying to get something for nothing. There is a limit on what I can provide, though, because I have to hide my sugar from my SO. ' I didn't go farther at that M&G, but followed up w / her later, checked out that she really did want to FC. She seems genuinely excited by the prospect, and readily agreed to 400 with consideration to my overall costs (hotel, etc.)..[/QUOTE]I agree. Text or online negotiating won't get you best deal. If I really interested on the girl, I will ask to meet in person and if she ask how much my ppm, I'll give answer that let's meet first and we can discuss based on mutual attraction. Not all girl will agree to this approach and some insisted me to let her know the ppm number. In this case I would say based on my previous one was 300 and sometimes I said 400 if the she is hot and really my type (based on picture). I typically will insist to to M&G as pictures sometimes fake, or at least meet at Starbucks before we do the deed. For those who agree to negotiate on M&G I usually get better outcome. The downside is you spend more time doing M&G and if they flake they may not show up at all.

For age, some girls don't care as long as they feel comfortable. I met someone who are only 19 and we stick for a while. My age is more than double of hers but we enjoyed each other.

[QUOTE=Murrican;5978192]I'm pretty generous but I'd never pay 800-1000 to a girl no matter how hot. At the risk of sounding sanctimonious, you can do a lot of good in the world with 1000 dollars and helping a dumb girl buy a pair of pradas ain't on that list. This is why I don't Seek in tier 1 US cities. Man in some Tier 1. 5 European cities (big cities but not London Paris Berlin etc) girls are thrilled to get dinner and a night for 350 euros. And top shelf chickenheads. One vagina I'd literally consider flying to whichever European country I visit next she was so hot. Once you've done that, 1000 dollars seems absurd. Ain't no Brittany or Madison worth that.[/QUOTE]Agreed. Europe is a much better place for top shelf pussy. American girls in general are far more entitled, shallow, and greedy. They love to hustle their partners. That being said, it is still possible to find dimes who are actually good company and don't ask for much, they're just harder to come by.

[QUOTE=Dsteezy;5978678]So found this cute 19 year old who I met with for Coffee yesterday. After coffee we walked along the beach, talked some more and decided to go to the FC. Girl had some skills and she was reasonably enough priced where I'd gladly keep her on the roster but here's what intrigued me and don't know what to think.

We finished and we starting discussing experiences. To which the topic of 3 some came up and she asked if I'd be interested in some friends. I said of course and she showed me their pics, but then she swiped by this other pic of a girl who looked sort of like her and she was like I can introduce you to my sister. First thought was damn she's a clinger but then she was like we can all go out together. Then my thought was ok so this must be like a sorority sister you know where the coin each other "big sis and little sis. " So I was like nice so this is like your sister from college. She's like no my older sister and shows a family photo from a vacation.

She says they're down to get together and I have us planned to meet tomorrow. Not sure how I feel but it'll be one for the books.[/QUOTE]That's definitely a worthwhile experience. I've had creampie threesomes with a mother and daughter (both incredibly hot), as well as identical twins (also gorgeous). Priceless memories.

Politics aside, it's a great day for SD's with a vasectomy. Just one of those unintended consequences.

[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;5984644]Politics aside, it's a great day for SD's with a vasectomy. Just one of those unintended consequences.[/QUOTE]California has some of the strongest abortion access laws in the country, but this is certainly a cause of concern for girls in other states. I periodically fly in gorgeous dimes from red states, who now have more cause to get out of dodge, and can maintain peace of mind in this state as they receive my sperm loads.

Enjoy:

[URL]https://seeking.com/billing/memberships?promo=VWO20PBRB[/URL]

[QUOTE=FirstClass1;5988952]Enjoy:

[URL]https://seeking.com/billing/memberships?promo=VWO20PBRB[/URL][/QUOTE]A coupon! I can FINALLY afford to be a Sugar Daddy! Is Groupon still a thing? Since it's just supposed to be a dating site now, I'm surprised they still care about income levels. Let true love prevail!