Non Pro's

[QUOTE=Michael1967;6328690]Some for money, but most not.[/QUOTE]It's that moment where you're trying to avoid paying money unnecessarily that seems to be the art of the date. Do you willingly pay the date offer up front, or after? Or just don't bring it up at all and wait for them to. And at that point, figuring out how to get to the goal through charm vs more $. I know with seeking, this is always clear in advance. Not knowing if the girl is disguising her requirements for PPM money is that subtle thing with the WYP girls. So this, I'm hoping for more comments on how this has gone for you all. Michael, you've been a real trove for us. Thank you.

[QUOTE=KnoxNenters;6328729]It's that moment where you're trying to avoid paying money unnecessarily that seems to be the art of the date. Do you willingly pay the date offer up front, or after? Or just don't bring it up at all and wait for them to. And at that point, figuring out how to get to the goal through charm vs more $. I know with seeking, this is always clear in advance. Not knowing if the girl is disguising her requirements for PPM money is that subtle thing with the WYP girls. So this, I'm hoping for more comments on how this has gone for you all. Michael, you've been a real trove for us. Thank you.[/QUOTE]I think if she wants money, she will bring it up. The people that wanted money, I never had to squeeze it out of them. I occasionally have to squeeze the amount out of them once they mention they are looking for money. I personally would not bring it up first and treat it like a date. You'll be surprised at how it will come up, some will mention being a sugar baby, some will talk about how they have some bills due, some will just come out and offer. But some are just looking to date, treat those like dates and ask them to go somewhere after. Like a cool bar. Dress well, be polite, open doors and ask open ended questions and talk about yourself as little as possible. The biggest complaints I hear about previous dates is guys talked about themselves the whole time. If she's older and you act like a gentleman it's almost guaranteed. Younger is more of a crapshoot (but my car BJ's came from younger ones).

[QUOTE=KnoxNenters;6328729] And at that point, figuring out how to get to the goal through charm vs more $.[/QUOTE]As he said, it's pretty simple. Present yourself as reliable (pay the offer, date expenses), interesting, and safe. Get to know them, understand their motives and respond accordingly. I doubt any woman wanting compensation will change her mind unless it was George Clooney walking thru the door. But I do believe the opposite. Most women know within minutes if they're open to sex with a guy after meeting. Some will come in with a set price and others willing to hear offers. Others will change their minds at the last minute. That's why it's so YMMV.

[QUOTE=DaCruz6;6328015][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/18b1d275-4c66-44dc-b84d-23dab17977a2[/URL]

Not much info I can gather from profile. Is she wearing some fast food joint uniform? Any experience with this one?[/QUOTE]It's a restaurant called "Furr's Buffet" and only had restaurants in Texas. I'm guessing the profile is fake.

Took a peek at WYP, recognized half of the profiles from SA. I guess I'll stick to SA for now.

Anyone seen her yet?

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/e0135468-f341-4f14-9217-428d488cad58[/URL]

[QUOTE=Baddaddy2021;6329153]Anyone seen her yet?

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/e0135468-f341-4f14-9217-428d488cad58[/URL][/QUOTE]I think someone with a location like that (Washington, Washington) , they are mostly fake accounts or scams.

[QUOTE=Michael1967;6328907]I think if she wants money, she will bring it up. The people that wanted money, I never had to squeeze it out of them. I occasionally have to squeeze the amount out of them once they mention they are looking for money. I personally would not bring it up first and treat it like a date. You'll be surprised at how it will come up, some will mention being a sugar baby, some will talk about how they have some bills due, some will just come out and offer. But some are just looking to date, treat those like dates and ask them to go somewhere after. Like a cool bar. Dress well, be polite, open doors and ask open ended questions and talk about yourself as little as possible. The biggest complaints I hear about previous dates is guys talked about themselves the whole time. If she's older and you act like a gentleman it's almost guaranteed. Younger is more of a crapshoot (but my car BJ's came from younger ones).[/QUOTE]Yup this is pretty much the blueprint that I follow. For me though I have almost never met someone on SA who met for the first date completely for free (I. E. A date). It has happened for future visits where we meet, have a nice dinner and wine and then fuck like rabbits without an actual payment. I do agree though that slightly older (40's) women are much more mature and know what they want from the meeting. The really young ones are sometime too immature or just all over the place for me. For those I prefer a price upfront and then just go fuck them (I. E. A more TNA style meetup) rather than dinner and wine (of course there are probably younger girls who are incredible smart and mature, I was not generalizing).

Had me get a hotel, and communicated right to that point. Then ghosted me.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/06926705-49b9-430f-87c8-99d72dbe8bec[/URL]

[QUOTE=XyzzyS2;6332032]Had me get a hotel, and communicated right to that point. Then ghosted me.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/06926705-49b9-430f-87c8-99d72dbe8bec[/URL][/QUOTE]Judging by her picture, looks like she was diverted to a "Golden Corral" instead of going to your hotel.

[QUOTE=XyzzyS2;6332032]Had me get a hotel, and communicated right to that point. Then ghosted me.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/06926705-49b9-430f-87c8-99d72dbe8bec[/URL][/QUOTE]Oh God. She's still out there. Just so you know. She's not as attractive as her pictures. Not even close.

Dumb questions but new to this side, but do those who have had success actually fill out their profile? How much info / what do you put in it? Do you put a personal identifiable picture on?

There's a promo on What's Your Price for credits right now, don't go for it.

After about 3 weeks, a few hundred credits, and a lot of effort I still have to recommend most people to avoid it as the site has not been a good return on investment. I went on one date in person which wasn't that bad and a couple others didn't work out for no fault of their own. I won't brag but I did very well on seeking in comparison and paid less for a month's subscription. The whole concept of WYP is supposed to be a relatively quick dating set up, but the site and user base work against it at every turn. Not being able to communicate with someone before the offer is their revenue generating model, but it really puts your ability to negotiate and screen at a disadvantage.

Here's are my top complaints:

-Messaging system sucks, so bad. Much worse than seeking. Most replies will be staggered in long intervals due to lag, or site errors, or whatever. It makes screening incredibly frustrating and leads to a lot of dead ends after days of effort with the high level of scammers and fake accounts.

-Low pool of genuine companions. They made a push to bring in more users but it is still a relatively small number of real women available compared to seeking. It's obvious they're just getting drowned in notifications and messages, much worse than the other site. Part of the issue might be that I prefer attractive women under 30, but I don't even bother filtering search results anymore because there are such few options.

[QUOTE=Michael1967;6332084]Oh God. She's still out there. Just so you know. She's not as attractive as her pictures. Not even close.[/QUOTE]I'm having flashbacks of the counter I had with her before the pandemic.

I had to ask her to leave after 5 minutes because she smelled so bad.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/1f87d855-380b-4f5a-884a-a60b0980b90b[/URL]

Don't send any money. She will not show.

[QUOTE=XyzzyS2;6332032]Had me get a hotel, and communicated right to that point. Then ghosted me.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/06926705-49b9-430f-87c8-99d72dbe8bec[/URL][/QUOTE]Jasmine did you a favor by not showing up.

He manager probably did something that the makeup could not cover.

Plus, odds of drip dick are pretty high.

She is a 100 $ cum dump. Nothing more.

Most of this board have blasted their man sauce in her.

Then if you do see her, she will text you non stop wanting another date or needing money.

When you tell her you needed to get a z pack, she will play dumb and tell you she had only been with one other man.

[QUOTE=AnomBox;6327267]1. Really chill, chatted for a day then met for drinks and ended up with her head in my lap when I dropped her off. Never enjoyed the kitty but the head game was amazing enough to justify a few quick meetups since I was staying around the block from her. She has a great little body and isn't afraid of a blowbang / mini-bukake party.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/821ed085-e80b-4840-9884-432d09168c4f[/URL]..
[/QUOTE]She seems to be asking 6 but might settle for 4. Worth it at those prices?

[QUOTE=PnwGord;6334809]She seems to be asking 6 but might settle for 4. Worth it at those prices?[/QUOTE]For that? I don't know you and if you have any kind of game, but 3 would be my absolute limit for a chick like that if I was desperate. She's in her 30's, not a TNA ho but nothing to write home about. Looks like the kind of girl that will go home with you if you're around at last call LOL. Is it really this bad in Seattle now?

[QUOTE=Darkhosis;6335129]For that? I don't know you and if you have any kind of game, but 3 would be my absolute limit for a chick like that if I was desperate. She's in her 30's, not a TNA ho but nothing to write home about. Looks like the kind of girl that will go home with you if you're around at last call LOL. Is it really this bad in Seattle now?[/QUOTE]I agree that 300 is a sensible limit for her but I do find her pretty hot. That being said even if she agrees to 300, very likely she is not going to be happy about it so the experience might end up not being that good. She did not reply to my message which might indicate she is not into long sessions of hard sex, or maybe I am not her type

[QUOTE=Facials;6333826]Jasmine did you a favor by not showing up.

He manager probably did something that the makeup could not cover.

Plus, odds of drip dick are pretty high.

She is a 100 $ cum dump. Nothing more.

Most of this board have blasted their man sauce in her.

Then if you do see her, she will text you non stop wanting another date or needing money.

When you tell her you needed to get a z pack, she will play dumb and tell you she had only been with one other man.[/QUOTE]She is still around?

[QUOTE=Facials;6333826]Jasmine did you a favor by not showing up.

He manager probably did something that the makeup could not cover.

Plus, odds of drip dick are pretty high.

She is a 100 $ cum dump. Nothing more.

Most of this board have blasted their man sauce in her.

Then if you do see her, she will text you non stop wanting another date or needing money.

When you tell her you needed to get a z pack, she will play dumb and tell you she had only been with one other man.[/QUOTE]OMG. She may be one of the dumbest hookers ever. Her man is even dumber. Honestly. I don't know how she hasn't popped out a tricks baby.

One time I say her and from the stench you could have started a wonder bread factory.

I took a break for a few months from SA. Boy have the AI bots gotten bad but there super easy to spot now at least. I'm just entertaining myself with them.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/a5d9078e-feb3-46dd-ae22-f66a08019cdd[/URL]

Asked for PPM, I declined but now her location is in NJ so it was a scam anyways.

[URL]https://members.whatsyourprice.com/profile/Dv3OERmV01yaggP0xk4on28L[/URL]

Catfish. Claims pics are 2 years old. When asked for selfie she is heavier and won't show body. Turned her down on principle.

[URL]https://members.whatsyourprice.com/profile/lqwMzODaAPjrwYk5vyV3b61r[/URL]

Not worth it. Won't send a selfie, won't show up for m&g.

[URL]https://members.whatsyourprice.com/profile/GYKE1OV6AGxK4GBJvMpL9rdB[/URL]

Nice personality & real but face is photoshopped. Wants PPM too high for her looks and age.

[URL]https://members.whatsyourprice.com/profile/Wg3exO2bARjVRX1A1zGo4vyw[/URL]

Right now, it's pretty bleak. Lots of 1 or 2 pic scams / fakes mixed in with seeking girls who don't bother adding more than 1 pic. I went on 1 date that wasn't looking for a SD arrangement.

Also, Michael1967, I have no idea how you manage to get these girls into your car. That's pretty risky behavior on their part, you must talk a good game.

[QUOTE=XyzzyS2;6340191][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/a5d9078e-feb3-46dd-ae22-f66a08019cdd[/URL][/QUOTE]Getting similar looks this weekend in Texas for half that!! These girls going to realize the tech money is drying up!! LOL.

[QUOTE=Darkhosis;6340410]Asked for PPM, I declined but now her location is in NJ so it was a scam anyways.



Also, Michael1967, I have no idea how you manage to get these girls into your car. That's pretty risky behavior on their part, you must talk a good game.[/QUOTE]I'm actually the sweetest guy in the world. Like here, I'm very open and women feel comfortable around me because I tell them how I feel. I don't think guys really do that very much. There is no woman that fears me. Hell, I had a date a couple of weeks ago and cancelled because. Well, I had Chlamydia and Syphilis. I flat out told her why I was cancelling, she still wanted to go out. I haven't seen a woman from TNA since November, but I text back and forth with three or four of them regularly..even after I told them I'm no longer seeing hookers. Women always say I'm "warm". The downside of all that is that I hit the "friend" zone pretty quickly if I'm not careful.

[QUOTE=Michael1967;6340659]I'm actually the sweetest guy in the world. Like here, I'm very open and women feel comfortable around me because I tell them how I feel. I don't think guys really do that very much. There is no woman that fears me. Hell, I had a date a couple of weeks ago and cancelled because. Well, I had Chlamydia and Syphilis. I flat out told her why I was cancelling, she still wanted to go out. I haven't seen a woman from TNA since November, but I text back and forth with three or four of them regularly..even after I told them I'm no longer seeing hookers. Women always say I'm "warm". The downside of all that is that I hit the "friend" zone pretty quickly if I'm not careful.[/QUOTE]So was Ted Bundy, he was a downright charmer, LOL. I sincerely hope those car rides aren't first meets because that encourages some extremely risky behaviour. It has nothing to do with you, it's the next guy they take a chance on that might be a total psycho.

[QUOTE=XyzzyS2;6340191][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/a5d9078e-feb3-46dd-ae22-f66a08019cdd[/URL][/QUOTE]I had actually saved her to my favorites a week or two ago. You saved me the trouble of messaging her. $1000 ppm is a joke. Something tells me she doesn't actually want to be in this line of work.

[QUOTE=Facials;6333826]Jasmine did you a favor by not showing up.

He manager probably did something that the makeup could not cover.

Plus, odds of drip dick are pretty high.

She is a 100 $ cum dump. Nothing more.

Most of this board have blasted their man sauce in her.

Then if you do see her, she will text you non stop wanting another date or needing money.

When you tell her you needed to get a z pack, she will play dumb and tell you she had only been with one other man.[/QUOTE]I blasted in her last week. Nasty smell from down under.

I still did it anyway.

I am a Dirty Fuk.

Avoid this one:

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/73e6a21f-068f-4d4d-8b29-a5093908b354[/URL]

Wants 500 per and will fail to deliver.

[QUOTE=DirtyFuk;6319611]Is Sarcasticfungirl around?
[/QUOTE]I have wondered about her. I would love to see her again if she is still around.

[QUOTE=Anonymous420;6342470]Avoid this one:

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/73e6a21f-068f-4d4d-8b29-a5093908b354[/URL]

Wants 500 per and will fail to deliver.[/QUOTE]Was just in Texas. 500 ppm, South American 5'7" athlete!! Zero body fat, didn't even want a drink at the bar!! 500 ppm. Pussy was like a pink pillow!! Smelled like bananas!

Sweet, Feminine! (I hate west coast boss bitches!! God!!) soft spoken.

We're paying too much in Seattle. I'm saving my money for travel!! The west coast is junk!! LOL.

Happy hunting.

[QUOTE=Anonymous420;6342470]Avoid this one:

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/73e6a21f-068f-4d4d-8b29-a5093908b354[/URL]

Wants 500 per and will fail to deliver.[/QUOTE]I should add that she puts up a new profile every couple weeks or so as she burns her way through the site.

[QUOTE=Anonymous420;6343587]I should add that she puts up a new profile every couple weeks or so as she burns her way through the site.[/QUOTE]She is damaged goods and doesn't belong in this business. Hates doing it, hates customers. Thinks she should be paid just for showing up, except she does nothing but complain about her life. I'm surprised you agreed to the 500 ppm since that doesn't include the hotel and whatever extras. Insane pricing for an amateur.

I ran into her when I first came across seeking and she bailed an hour before the meet and greet. She then proceeded to message me repeatedly when could we reschedule. I have a feeling she will comply when she's desperate for cash. Still, hard no. I'd rather pay for a K Girl where I know I'll get treated like a king.

Sad to say that blonde4 life ([URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/13122e7d-d54b-4702-9889-bdb041414f40[/URL]) is a time waster.

She's been on SA since 2019. A couple months ago she and I were chatting, moved to text, and things seemed to be moving along nicely. Agreed to a M&G for chemistry check and agreed to 500 PPM for future dates, but our schedules didn't align for a while, with each of us having issues before a work trip took me a way for a while. When I got back, work got insane for her and she kind of disappeared. I thought she had ghosted me. Fast forward to last week and she texted me saying her project was done and schedule was back to normal and would I like to finally get together. Back in the groove of texting. We agreed to meet today. Sent confirmation yesterday. No reply. Checked in again this morning. Nothing. An hour before. Nada. Now three hours past, still zip. I'm done.

I was in Oly for a night looking for a hottie and Hanna to me is a hottie! But at 500 above my current budget.

However she was easy to chat with, and was down to meet for some sushi and then go have some fun, but didn't budge from 5.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/228c5dc2-75cd-4f16-93bc-c11734dc374e[/URL]

Fuck I am used to the profile said Seattle but they are in Tacoma, Kent or Everett but fucking Spokane or Forks, don't understand the logic, yeah if they put their real location they would have less interests but nobody is going to fucking drive 3+ hours, so at the end it does not matter, well other than wasting people's time.

[QUOTE=DelToro;6348475]Fuck I am used to the profile said Seattle but they are in Tacoma, Kent or Everett but fucking Spokane or Forks, don't understand the logic, yeah if they put their real location they would have less interests but nobody is going to fucking drive 3+ hours, so at the end it does not matter, well other than wasting people's time.[/QUOTE]I know a couple of girls that travel between Spokane and Seattle, maybe just forgot the update their location? Happens all the time.

[QUOTE=Money420;6348846]I know a couple of girls that travel between Spokane and Seattle, maybe just forgot the update their location? Happens all the time.[/QUOTE]No, almost all of the women I've talked to where they aren't in Seattle do it deliberately. They told me it's for safety. Maybe some of them are responsible, but you can't seriously think a majority are that business-minded. I think it's laziness: they get more search hits if they list Seattle as the location. They're just looking for a big fish or online because they've read too many blogs about sugaring. I agree, it's a waste of time. The worst was a girl who was in DC but listed herself in Seattle because she was hoping to find a SD to move her out here.

[QUOTE=Money420;6348846]I know a couple of girls that travel between Spokane and Seattle, maybe just forgot the update their location? Happens all the time.[/QUOTE]That's for what the multiple location feature is for.