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[QUOTE=BKoobs;4681049]We set the price. They do not. These girls will starve without us. We need to think with our heads and not our "other" head.[/QUOTE]100% agree!! The mongers are the one's responsible for these stupid price hikes. And I've also noticed how the cash app / gift card scams are steadily increasing.
[QUOTE=DRock15;4681765]Reality is that we can dictate price only so much. Much of the top shelf talent will stop coming here if the prices bottom out.[/QUOTE]HaHaHa!! Please tell me you're not serious? I'd like to know what your definition is for "top shelf talent. "
Total amateur, waste of time and money. Lives in a bad neighborhood in Longwood near Ronald Reagan blvd and Seminole Rd. Doesn't look as good as her pics, they may not even be her in the post. Totally paranoid about the police, says she has a warrant for her arrest. She is blonde with very curly hair and about 5'6" and around 130#. Lousy BBBJ and let my juices spill on me and my seat. Doesn't know WTF she's doing. No incall, car date on one of the side streets off RR BLVD. Cost me 5 Jackson's, waste of my cash because I couldn't get her to give any back before she did the deed.
Don't waste your time with this one.
[URL]http://orlando.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/exotic/down-to-earth-warming-call-or/920009391991[/URL]
PHFJ Out!
[QUOTE=OriginalSin;4681837]HaHaHa!! Please tell me you're not serious? I'd like to know what your definition is for "top shelf talent. "[/QUOTE]I would consider Valentina and her friends top shelf. Kylie also. Been a while since they've been to Orlando.
[QUOTE=BKoobs;4681049]We set the price. They do not. These girls will starve without us. We need to think with our heads and not our "other" head.[/QUOTE]There's at least two problems with that school of thought. First, those on this board are not the only consumers out there. While it's hugely a guess, I suspect less than half of those that regularly engage in this hobby are members of this forum. If so, then more than half of the mongers aren't even involved in this conversation. Second, the consumer alone doesn't set the price. Much like we can (attempt) to band together, so too can the ladies. Hypothetically, if we tried to set the hhr rate at 100, they could refuse to see clients and say the hhr rate is 150. Then it becomes a game of chicken to see who blinks first. Sure, we can absolutely have an EFFECT on the price, but there are way too many factors involved for us to think we could actually SET the price.
[QUOTE=JayJayTwo;4682545]There's at least two problems with that school of thought. First, those on this board are not the only consumers out there. While it's hugely a guess, I suspect less than half of those that regularly engage in this hobby are members of this forum. If so, then more than half of the mongers aren't even involved in this conversation. Second, the consumer alone doesn't set the price. Much like we can (attempt) to band together, so too can the ladies. Hypothetically, if we tried to set the hhr rate at 100, they could refuse to see clients and say the hhr rate is 150. Then it becomes a game of chicken to see who blinks first. Sure, we can absolutely have an EFFECT on the price, but there are way too many factors involved for us to think we could actually SET the price.[/QUOTE]I agree with Jay. However, the most important part of this is the Mongers economics. A guy who is a blue collar working is definitely going to have a different view than someone making 250 K or more. I mean sometimes I feel like haggling (okay most of the time) but other times I don't have time and just want to dream. It's like buying a car, a Camry is a great car, solid and affordable. I went with an Infiniti for no other reason because I could. This is an example, I don't want a car war. However, I drive my kids jeep because it's fun and he loves the infiniti because he thinks it makes him look like a baller. It doesn't, It just gets you were your going.
[QUOTE=JayJayTwo;4682545]There's at least two problems with that school of thought. First, those on this board are not the only consumers out there. While it's hugely a guess, I suspect less than half of those that regularly engage in this hobby are members of this forum. If so, then more than half of the mongers aren't even involved in this conversation. Second, the consumer alone doesn't set the price. Much like we can (attempt) to band together, so too can the ladies. Hypothetically, if we tried to set the hhr rate at 100, they could refuse to see clients and say the hhr rate is 150. Then it becomes a game of chicken to see who blinks first. Sure, we can absolutely have an EFFECT on the price, but there are way too many factors involved for us to think we could actually SET the price.[/QUOTE]Fully agree with your statement. We are part of the equation. I also think part of the issue with the Orlando market is that we are relatively close to Miami. My opinion is that top shelf talent down there generally gets more money per hour and / or more clients per hour. I sometimes find it hard to get an appointment with some of my favorites down there at 200/ hr because they are so busy. If I were a top shelf provider, I probably would not frequent Orlando over Miami on a regular basis with all other things considered equal.
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[QUOTE=JayJayTwo;4682545]There's at least two problems with that school of thought. First, those on this board are not the only consumers out there. While it's hugely a guess, I suspect less than half of those that regularly engage in this hobby are members of this forum. If so, then more than half of the mongers aren't even involved in this conversation. Second, the consumer alone doesn't set the price. Much like we can (attempt) to band together, so too can the ladies. Hypothetically, if we tried to set the hhr rate at 100, they could refuse to see clients and say the hhr rate is 150. Then it becomes a game of chicken to see who blinks first. Sure, we can absolutely have an EFFECT on the price, but there are way too many factors involved for us to think we could actually SET the price.[/QUOTE]I would argue that the members on this board are probably closer to the majority of business in this town. That's not counting the lurkers that aren't members yet. And as for your comment on price setting, you must've just started this hobby because it wasn't more than 2-3 yrs ago that hh rates were between 80-100, qv was 40-60, hr was 140-200 consistently!
But based on your logic, you're saying that if a good majority of us declines their ridiculous offers, that they will not budge? Doesn't make sense, but I'll go with it. So what would happen if we do nothing?
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[QUOTE=Dugglc;4681821]The reality is that there isn't that much top shelf talent around anyway just a bunch of hoes with gps. Valentina and friends I would call top shelf and they only get 200. Hell I haven't seen her but I think Scar only gets 200 also. For me that is as much as I am willing to pay. Most of these girls are mediocre at best and should be at 80 hh and 160 hr. There probably aren't a dozen girls around here that are truly worth 200 even. They will charge whatever your hard dick will pay though. I have been at it a long time but I can remember picking up SW for a BBBJCIM for 5 dollars 10 max. Those were the days. If we all are willing to stick together and stop supporting the gps syndrome that has taken over the hobby we could get the prices down to 80 hh and 160 hr and 200 for top shelf. Hell at 200 if they only see 5 guys a day that's a thousand dollars a day. You can't tell me girls will stop coming when they can make a thousand or more a day. Your reality is what you make it.[/QUOTE]You are 100% spot on! 💪
[QUOTE=Racerx74;4682587]I agree with Jay. However, the most important part of this is the Mongers economics. A guy who is a blue collar working is definitely going to have a different view than someone making 250 K or more. I mean sometimes I feel like haggling (okay most of the time) but other times I don't have time and just want to dream. It's like buying a car, a Camry is a great car, solid and affordable. I went with an Infiniti for no other reason because I could. This is an example, I don't want a car war. However, I drive my kids jeep because it's fun and he loves the infiniti because he thinks it makes him look like a baller. It doesn't, It just gets you were your going.[/QUOTE]I make a very nice living, but I will not give into the outrageous rates! NEVER! I will not contribute to that lunacy.
[QUOTE=JJFresh;4683463]You are 100% spot on![/QUOTE]Could not agree more. We need to set the rates. Not them. None of these girls deserve the money they are asking except for a few; such as Valentina and friends and MAYBE a coupe others. They are making tons of money. The more we stick together and set the rates, the better off we are. Amen brother.
[QUOTE=JJFresh;4683473]I make a very nice living, but I will not give into the outrageous rates! NEVER! I will not contribute to that lunacy.[/QUOTE]I agree with you guys some of these prices are getting ridiculous I like others stay also in the 100 to 180 range, the only time I stray and save my pennies is if the provider is at an Avalon level, all the others seem to ask a lot and most times the service is mediocre at best, but they really on us mongers thinking with our little heads, thus my motto is pussy is pussy. LOL.
[QUOTE=JJFresh;4683473]I make a very nice living, but I will not give into the outrage rates! NEVER! I will not contribute to that lunacy.[/QUOTE]Well I do agree with most of these post I have been mongering for like ten years an have also seen the increase in price it's called inflation let's face facts I've paid as little as 80 years ago for an hour and $300 too $400 now which BTW I can afford wouldn't do this all the time he'll no I have posted on this site under UTR about my PR / AA friend Yashii that I have seen for 5-7 years would put most providers too shame which her body and personality for 120 hhr and 150 hr just my two cents LOL.