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[QUOTE=KayBez;3379230]Hey everyone, been reading these posts for a while now, does anyone have any advice for a beginner in my early 20's?[/QUOTE]Start offering girls younger than you .5 per date. I am sure you will get a lot of takers. Just go for the average girls to start. And report back your successes or failures. But I hope you at least have a decent car and your own place. A lot of these girls just wanna get out of the house.
[QUOTE=KayBez;3379230]Hey everyone, been reading these posts for a while now, does anyone have any advice for a beginner in my early 20's?[/QUOTE]Also, tell them you will take them on a real date. Like dinner and/or a movie. You would be shocked at how many 18-20 year old girls have never been on a real date. Or an all day affair... Broad museum (free to get in, $20 to park), dinner and a movie. With all that you might even be able to go sans sugar. Just stay away from anything you consider a red flag. Hit up like 50 girls and talk to maybe 10. There will be a gem in there. I guarantee it.
I met a girl today I had briefly txted with a few times over the last 2 weeks. She seemed a bit hesitant and wanted to make sure she wasn't committed to more than a HJ for a paid date. I let her know I wasn't the pushy type and that a HJ was more than enough for a first date. When she got here (which was only a. 16 Uber RT) she was very much on the dykey side. Short hair, baseball cap, jeans, and a hoody. I mean she was straight up gay on sight.
I was more than a bit turned off, but she was here, so we started making out on the couch. I then suggested we just move to the FC. I was a little worried if I was even going to be turned on, but once I got her clothes off, underneath there was a tight, toned, hot little girl in my bed (and with some pretty good skills). She had a sexy looking and tasty kitty, so I indulged in some extended DATY (something I have been sorely missing as of late). An hour later we were done. She was an honor roll junior at a local college. She wasn't too flirty, but was ready to get down and dirty on a dime, or I should say a $.
Most likely I will see her again when time / funds permit.
And just to update:
My Haitian x roommate has moved back in (platonic and paying rent).
My Stripper x is still x'ed out of the picture (although she calls me 5 times a day on one pretext or another). It's amazing how fast she realized that even a cheap SD is still a SD. Oh well.
My ATF has been nickel and diming me. (got to nip that in the bud now).
And seeing my new little girl last night in juxtaposition to my much older roommate caught us all by surprise. As my roommate is just old enough to be her mom.
Started off a month ago on SA messaging average Hispanic and AA girls. After a lot of back and forth messages, getting to know you type messages, and push for a meet ups I have three AA girls that I've consistently stayed in touch with.
Had a m&g with a thick 24 yr old and the next day had her over to my place. Watched a movie, got to know each other, lot of laughing, establishing some comfort, and turns out we had a lot of things in common and good overall vibe. No FC yet but have plans to meet up and keep this going once our schedules and my budget line up.
Got another thick 23 yr old. Had her over to my place three times in the last three weeks. First date just HJ and BJ. From there on it was straight FC, hanging out, getting to know each other, watching movies and she's an overall really down ass chick. She's grateful for my help and no drama so far.
This last chick is younger than the other two (19) so I'm taking my time and really investing in getting to know her. Haven't met up yet but plan to do so soon.
With all three I never came at them with any b. S. I treated them with respect, honest, and overall relaxed and not aggressive. Had good vibes with all three of them and the last thing I want to do is be clingy and suffocating.
But to find these three I had to wade through a lot of other chicks who weren't down for the amount of help I could provide, others it fizzled out real quick, got some to agree to a m&g only to never hear from them, others didn't have any long term perspective and we're about the right now.
Had one girl agree to a nonpaid m&g but bailed because I wouldn't agree to give her some gas money. Told her to think about the long term monetary benefit of coming to an arrangement with me but she wasn't having any of it. She needed her gas money and she needed it at that moment.
So now that my one month subscription is coming to an end I'll take a step back from SA and focus on these three girls for now. And I'll see how it goes because I'll have some big things coming in the Fall career wise and since I'm still pretty young I'll need to focus on that.
Thanks guys for all the advice, will sit it out a while till I have my own place.
[QUOTE=KayBez;3382082]Thanks guys for all the advice, will sit it out a while till I have my own place.[/QUOTE]Unless you can afford a room.
[QUOTE=KayBez;3379230]Hey everyone, been reading these posts for a while now, does anyone have any advice for a beginner in my early 20's?[/QUOTE]I would fucking kill to be in my early 20's again.
What the hell are you doing?
I can't speak for everybody else, but the only reason I do this is because I'm old and ugly and have a lot of extra cash in my wallet.
My advice to you: Go to college. You'll be surrounded by THOUSANDS of young girls, and they will all be available to you. Girls are so slutty these days compared to when I was your age that I can't imagine a young guy like you not being able to get laid with multiple girls all the time. Especially since so many dudes your age are hopelessly addicted to porn and video games.
Once you're out of college, spend the rest of your 20's and 30's working 60-80 hours a week starting up businesses and side gigs and trying to get rich.
That way, when you're in your 40's and college girls think of you as a creepy old man, you'll just be able to buy them like we do.
Seriously. Get the fuck out of here.
[QUOTE=FarFarAway;3350454]You reap what you sow. You're treating them like BP hookers. You spend no time cultivating them as sugar relationships - these take time - even HWG does this. You are risking getting banned from the site, since you are clearly offering sex for $ - this will eventually bring down sugar dating sites and SA in particular. If a girl makes a specific $ proposal / demand, I'd report her. There is an excellent discussion of this topic on the Richmond sugar thread over the past few days. I recommend it.
FF away[/QUOTE]I agree with WHM69, SA have all kind of ladies, in age, size, shape, color, etc. If you want something super, super hot (like 18-22 young, thin, hot, size 1 white college coed girls) it will cost you more. If you want to buy a Ferrari, it will cost you Ferrari price, not Toyota Corolla price. Funny thing is guys on here will tell you their Corolla is a Ferrari, I think not.
[QUOTE=WHM69;3382749]I would fucking kill to be in my early 20's again.
What the hell are you doing?
I can't speak for everybody else, but the only reason I do this is because I'm old and ugly and have a lot of extra cash in my wallet.
My advice to you: Go to college. You'll be surrounded by THOUSANDS of young girls, and they will all be available to you. Girls are so slutty these days compared to when I was your age that I can't imagine a young guy like you not being able to get laid with multiple girls all the time. Especially since so many dudes your age are hopelessly addicted to porn and video games.
Once you're out of college, spend the rest of your 20's and 30's working 60-80 hours a week starting up businesses and side gigs and trying to get rich.
That way, when you're in your 40's and college girls think of you as a creepy old man, you'll just be able to buy them like we do.
Seriously. Get the fuck out of here.[/QUOTE]I concur. Fucken hang out at bars and AA meetings. You are young and have patience and time for drama. This is for old fux who have no rap and get angry with girls who cannot text without a booker.
[QUOTE=WHM69;3382749]I would fucking kill to be in my early 20's again.
What the hell are you doing?
I can't speak for everybody else, but the only reason I do this is because I'm old and ugly and have a lot of extra cash in my wallet.
My advice to you: Go to college. You'll be surrounded by THOUSANDS of young girls, and they will all be available to you. Girls are so slutty these days compared to when I was your age that I can't imagine a young guy like you not being able to get laid with multiple girls all the time. Especially since so many dudes your age are hopelessly addicted to porn and video games.
Once you're out of college, spend the rest of your 20's and 30's working 60-80 hours a week starting up businesses and side gigs and trying to get rich.
That way, when you're in your 40's and college girls think of you as a creepy old man, you'll just be able to buy them like we do.
Seriously. Get the fuck out of here.[/QUOTE]Sorry to date myself (to the 70's), but right on brother. LOL!!
[QUOTE=WHM69;3382749]I would fucking kill to be in my early 20's again.
What the hell are you doing?
I can't speak for everybody else, but the only reason I do this is because I'm old and ugly and have a lot of extra cash in my wallet.
My advice to you: Go to college. You'll be surrounded by THOUSANDS of young girls, and they will all be available to you. Girls are so slutty these days compared to when I was your age that I can't imagine a young guy like you not being able to get laid with multiple girls all the time. Especially since so many dudes your age are hopelessly addicted to porn and video games.
Once you're out of college, spend the rest of your 20's and 30's working 60-80 hours a week starting up businesses and side gigs and trying to get rich.
That way, when you're in your 40's and college girls think of you as a creepy old man, you'll just be able to buy them like we do.
Seriously. Get the fuck out of here.[/QUOTE]I totally disagree. But everyone is entitled to their opinion. If I had any clue about mongering as a young guy, I am sure I would have been all over it. The many hours wasted searching out pussy, plus I hate clubs/bars and never went to college, and hate the whole pickup line bs. If you are an online addict, then I suppose you could just use tinder if you are a youngun. I never tried it so I wouldn't know. But the whole concept of just shopping for a girl as opposed to actually picking one up. I would rather shop till I drop.
[QUOTE=WHM69;3382749]I would fucking kill to be in my early 20's again.
What the hell are you doing?
I can't speak for everybody else, but the only reason I do this is because I'm old and ugly and have a lot of extra cash in my wallet.
My advice to you: Go to college. You'll be surrounded by THOUSANDS of young girls, and they will all be available to you. Girls are so slutty these days compared to when I was your age that I can't imagine a young guy like you not being able to get laid with multiple girls all the time. Especially since so many dudes your age are hopelessly addicted to porn and video games.
Once you're out of college, spend the rest of your 20's and 30's working 60-80 hours a week starting up businesses and side gigs and trying to get rich.
That way, when you're in your 40's and college girls think of you as a creepy old man, you'll just be able to buy them like we do.
Seriously. Get the fuck out of here.[/QUOTE]Dead on point! If you're a young single man why would one even consider this? If you have game and personality you can score all you want for free. If one doesn't have either then I suggest they get off the computer, get out and start developing it instead of shopping online for what you're ultimately going to wind up with which is pros and UTR girls. You can find these for free without paying an $80 subscription fee. Get out and socialize and develop yourself. Personality goes along way.
[QUOTE=JohnHandCock;3383946]Dead on point! If you're a young single man why would one even consider this? If you have game and personality you can score all you want for free. If one doesn't have either then I suggest they get off the computer, get out and start developing it instead of shopping online for what you're ultimately going to wind up with which is pros and UTR girls. You can find these for free without paying an $80 subscription fee. Get out and socialize and develop yourself. Personality goes along way.[/QUOTE]And speaking of pros. I messaged this one on SA. I usually don't go pro but her 20 year old spinner body has me mesmerized.
My profile is geared to the submissive types. Its amazing how most of the ones that hmu are little bbw's. And so many 18 and 19 to choose from. Mostly white and latina. If I saw a super cute one I might partake. So I keep looking.
[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;3385113]My profile is geared to the submissive types. Its amazing how most of the ones that hmu are little bbw's. And so many 18 and 19 to choose from. Mostly white and latina. If I saw a super cute one I might partake. So I keep looking.[/QUOTE]My profile states that they must be sub. Bbws are freaks for most part, not sure if its an self esteem thing or what but anything goes with most. Oh and thanks to the educational system in this country I have girls responding to the sub part of my profile thinking that its for a temporary position while my regular sb is on vacation or on a temporary absence. Those girls politely disappear when I explain what it means LOL.