Massage Parlor Reports

[QUOTE=RichieGR;3971370]Stopped without an appointment and drew a new girl. Paid 80 for an hour. Started ok, then about 15 into it she says "I'm going to step out and you can turn over and leave my tip on the desk". Thinking this is different but oh well I leave 100 on the table. She returns and starts a half assed HJ. I ask for at least nude she says no. Ok, how about top off, she takes off shirt and continues in her bra. I ask again and it comes off. That's it, I'm out in 25 minutes. Taking that place off the list.[/QUOTE]Do you remember her name by chance? I understand Winter is gone from there and I was thinking of giving Serenity another run. I'd like to avoid the known problems if possible.

[QUOTE=Bismark;3972539]Do you remember her name by chance? I understand Winter is gone from there and I was thinking of giving Serenity another run. I'd like to avoid the known problems if possible.[/QUOTE]Hayley has tried to hire good looking trainable girls.

Wynter obviously needed more training beyond how to put on her makeup. The bad attitude and poor service reviews.
Caused Hayley to monitor and coach her. She Didn't work out or last long.

The new hot girl named Kyra might need coaching too and might be next to go.

[QUOTE=Monger01;3971703]This thread is littered with bad serenity reviews. I'm sure they're not all bad providers there but the place is getting the same rep as royal has for high rates = poor service. Not a good business model.[/QUOTE]Funny, I said something about prices there months ago, then got scolded as argumentative, then called "budget monger" by another monger who may or may not haves ties somehow with the place but call me names I elected to move on and now people all over board figuring out that their rates are crazy oh well have a good day.

[QUOTE=Benz1;3972597]Hayley has tried to hire good looking trainable girls.

Wynter obviously needed more training beyond how to put on her makeup. The bad attitude and poor service reviews.
Caused Hayley to monitor and coach her. She Didn't work out or last long.

The new hot girl named Kyra might need coaching too and might be next to go.[/QUOTE]Wynter definitely thought she was WAY more than she was!

Also, it's a good thing she had all that make up!

My. 02.

2 track.

Had the opportunity to finally see Amyna after trying to schedule with her the past few days. Communication was great via text and she was really accomadating with her scheduling as my schedule can be very inconsistent. She was running about 20 minutes late due to other clients showing up late. My day was open so I was happy to wait for her. Amyna, is a super sweet girl and was very appreciative of my patience. I booked an hour with her, but actually received closer to 1. 5 hours (I was her last client). She is nice to look at and her attitude is even better. She is enjoyable to talk to and has a really cute laugh. The massage is actually really good. She used medium pressure and ended with some light touch with her fingernails that gave me goosebumps. Tickle teasing is awesome. The flip was great. She's my favorite so far and will be back to see her. Damage was 60/60. Stay safe. JTK.

[QUOTE=Benz1;3972597]Hayley has tried to hire good looking trainable girls.

Wynter obviously needed more training beyond how to put on her makeup. The bad attitude and poor service reviews.
Caused Hayley to monitor and coach her. She Didn't work out or last long.

The new hot girl named Kyra might need coaching too and might be next to go.[/QUOTE]Thanks. Kyra was who I was looking at so I think I'll wait and see what happens.

Just saw she's back! Only saw her one time due to our schedules not meshing after. But I'm happy to hear she is back! She is a lot of fun and great to look at!

[QUOTE=DjBiker;3972702]Funny, I said something about prices there months ago, then got scolded as argumentative, then called "budget monger" by another monger who may or may not haves ties somehow with the place but call me names I elected to move on and now people all over board figuring out that their rates are crazy oh well have a good day.[/QUOTE] the Budget Monger post was for a new UTR, not directed at anyone, however your post prompted mine. There's a Jack for every Jill.

I'm a budget minded monger.

I never hobby on Thursday, Friday or Saturday, Costs too much to monger on busy days.

I hobby on Tuesdays and Wednesdays, best days for negotiations.

That was great how TonyNash900 handled Wynter, I would have done the same thing, Got dressed and Walked out the door. I've done it many times on an upsell. Happens all the time. I'm with Bismark on Kyra, after that review from RichieGR it's a wait and see.

Wish I would of mongered early in the week. Benz is so right that price was always higher Thursday-Sunday. I think I even got rushed through the door faster too! Except with Kandi!

[QUOTE=Benz1;3973621]the Budget Monger post was for a new UTR, not directed at anyone, however your post prompted mine. There's a Jack for every Jill.

I'm a budget minded monger.

I never hobby on Thursday, Friday or Saturday, Costs too much to monger on busy days.

I hobby on Tuesdays and Wednesdays, best days for negotiations.

That was great how TonyNash900 handled Wynter, I would have done the same thing, Got dressed and Walked out the door. I've done it many times on an upsell. Happens all the time. I'm with Bismark on Kyra, after that review from RichieGR it's a wait and see.[/QUOTE]

Been reading the forum for a while. Made and apt with Layla last weekend. Had a great time. Senior members feel free to pm for details.

Anyone seen this hottie yet? Have not seen any reviews for her.

Scolded? Please scold me too! Seriously though high rates for lack luster service is what it is. Mongers white kniting for Serenity won't change the facts. 180 for a topless no touching he and shorted on time to boot can't be glossed over just because your experience was better or you like paying more than local escorts charge for full service to a girl with gps and a massage table.

[QUOTE=DjBiker;3972702]Funny, I said something about prices there months ago, then got scolded as argumentative, then called "budget monger" by another monger who may or may not haves ties somehow with the place but call me names I elected to move on and now people all over board figuring out that their rates are crazy oh well have a good day.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Wolverines;3977035]Anyone seen this hottie yet? Have not seen any reviews for her.[/QUOTE]Wynter is not at Serenity anymore, she has relocated with new digits.

New, hot and 22.

Looks like Wolverines may have found the missing Wynter. Approach with caution as the sea sirens are singing. She is alluring but she might be the girl that Monger01 is talking about.

[QUOTE=Benz1;3977452]Wynter is not at Serenity anymore, she has relocated with new digits.

New, hot and 22.

Looks like Wolverines may have found the missing Wynter. Approach with caution as the sea sirens are singing. She is alluring but she might be the girl that Monger01 is talking about.[/QUOTE]What is Wolverines? Thanks.

Joy is working at royal and also oasis. You would hve to call for the known days.

[QUOTE=NoseJelly;3971541]Anyone know where Thai Joy is working since the 48th and Division place closed?

Thanks! NJ.

+1 to what Monger01 said.[/QUOTE]

Senior member on this board.

[QUOTE=MusicBoss10;3977582]What is Wolverines? Thanks.[/QUOTE]

I've seen Layla three times in the past month and been highly satisfied each time. Layla is tall, with great legs and a very nice chest. She's clean, well groomed, and easy to talk to, but the most striking thing is how present and engaged she is. Full time was not an issue. She seems genuinely interested in what she does, and has a lot of enthusiasm to go along with top notch skills.

[QUOTE=Benz1;3977452]Wynter is not at Serenity anymore, she has relocated with new digits.

New, hot and 22.

Looks like Wolverines may have found the missing Wynter. Approach with caution as the sea sirens are singing. She is alluring but she might be the girl that Monger01 is talking about.[/QUOTE]Is she though? This ad looks a lot like she's available at Serenity. Personally, I don't care if she's there or not; I'll not toss good money after bad on her. But it is worth noting in case I try there again as I don't really want to run into her.

[URL]http://usaadultclassifieds.nl/classifieds/index.php?view=showad&adid=63909&cityid=222[/URL]

I like her email addy. Seems VERY appropriate.

[QUOTE=Bismark;3977770]Is she though? This ad looks a lot like she's available at Serenity. Personally, I don't care if she's there or not; I'll not toss good money after bad on her. But it is worth noting in case I try there again as I don't really want to run into her.

[URL]http://usaadultclassifieds.nl/classifieds/index.php?view=showad&adid=63909&cityid=222[/URL][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Bismark;3977770]Is she though? This ad looks a lot like she's available at Serenity. Personally, I don't care if she's there or not; I'll not toss good money after bad on her. But it is worth noting in case I try there again as I don't really want to run into her.

[URL]http://usaadultclassifieds.nl/classifieds/index.php?view=showad&adid=63909&cityid=222[/URL][/QUOTE]No winter is NO longer At Serenity!! I can't control her ads. I do have a Manager that is working full time now and.

More girls, soon a "Popular" well known provider will be joining!!

[QUOTE=DiamondBebe;3977656]Joy is working at royal and also oasis. You would hve to call for the known days.[/QUOTE]Fabulous! Thanks!

[QUOTE=Monger01;3977824]I like her email addy. Seems VERY appropriate.[/QUOTE]I did not notice her email address until Monger pointed it out. I'm amazed at how stupid some of the providers are. Does she think that will attract clients? Also, the ads with dollar signs and pictures of providers displaying dollars are just as dumb.

[QUOTE=Hayleymatters;3978345]No winter is NO longer At Serenity!! I can't control her ads. I do have a Manager that is working full time now and.

More girls, soon a "Popular" well known provider will be joining!![/QUOTE]Any chance she is blonde😄.

[QUOTE=Randy2018;3977739]I've seen Layla three times in the past month and been highly satisfied each time. Layla is tall, with great legs and a very nice chest. She's clean, well groomed, and easy to talk to, but the most striking thing is how present and engaged she is. Full time was not an issue. She seems genuinely interested in what she does, and has a lot of enthusiasm to go along with top notch skills.[/QUOTE]What did her rates shake out to be? That is my biggest issue with that place.

[QUOTE=Hayleymatters;3978345]No winter is NO longer At Serenity!! I can't control her ads. I do have a Manager that is working full time now and.

More girls, soon a "Popular" well known provider will be joining!![/QUOTE]Thanks for the clarification Hayley!

[QUOTE=Monger01;3977824]I like her email addy. Seems VERY appropriate.[/QUOTE]Right? I wish her well but I think she's expecting a little much and is a lot too obvious about it.

[QUOTE=Hayleymatters;3978345]No winter is NO longer At Serenity!! I can't control her ads. I do have a Manager that is working full time now and.

More girls, soon a "Popular" well known provider will be joining!![/QUOTE]Will this "manager" cause your rates to go even higher. It's been widely reported that it's $80 hour for a massage that usually isn't even a good massage, then the ladies are expecting another $80 for a basic HE. Maybe you are busy enough at these rates that the girls will want to work there, maybe if you are busy enough at these rates you could charge even more. After all it does make some business sense to charge what the market will bear.

[QUOTE=Blackfire;3978836]Will this "manager" cause your rates to go even higher. It's been widely reported that it's $80 hour for a massage that usually isn't even a good massage, then the ladies are expecting another $80 for a basic HE. Maybe you are busy enough at these rates that the girls will want to work there, maybe if you are busy enough at these rates you could charge even more. After all it does make some business sense to charge what the market will bear.[/QUOTE]Rates will stay the same 80/ hr 50/ hh.

Sorry you feel that's to high.

Included in those rates is a hydro bed and table shower that.

Is finally here just waiting on some.

Permitting issues No extra cost for those services.

Very "clean" safe environment and always running specials.

And complimentary snacks water coffee tea beer and wine.

And all organic high end lotions and oils.

Most important providers that offer great service! This has been.

Hard to find but it's coming along!! Thanks again to all of are many serenity.

Relaxation regulars!

It is with great joy that I inform you who may not know better that you do not need to pay $160 for an hour massage with he.

There are numerous places you can go and see decent looking and even hot girls for a full one hour massage at 60 door fee and for 40-60 tip they go topless or nude and allow touching. Pacific on 44th and pacific cascade for example but others exist.

Why would you pay extra for the same or less service?

Sadly Blackfire is right. If you keep paying more they will keep charging more.

[QUOTE=Blackfire;3978836]Will this "manager" cause your rates to go even higher. It's been widely reported that it's $80 hour for a massage that usually isn't even a good massage, then the ladies are expecting another $80 for a basic HE. Maybe you are busy enough at these rates that the girls will want to work there, maybe if you are busy enough at these rates you could charge even more. After all it does make some business sense to charge what the market will bear.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Monger01;3978902]It is with great joy that I inform you who may not know better that you do not need to pay $160 for an hour massage with he.

There are numerous places you can go and see decent looking and even hot girls for a full one hour massage at 60 door fee and for 40-60 tip they go topless or nude and allow touching. Pacific on 44th and pacific cascade for example but others exist.

Why would you pay extra for the same or less service?

Sadly Blackfire is right. If you keep paying more they will keep charging more.[/QUOTE]Fortunately for some of us we have the financial funds that $200 not a big deal to us. When I walk in the door they know I tip well and I get the service I want They will even put off one of the regulars when they see me walk in the door Money rules.

[QUOTE=Monger01;3978902]It is with great joy that I inform you who may not know better that you do not need to pay $160 for an hour massage with he.

There are numerous places you can go and see decent looking and even hot girls for a full one hour massage at 60 door fee and for 40-60 tip they go topless or nude and allow touching. Pacific on 44th and pacific cascade for example but others exist.

Why would you pay extra for the same or less service?

Sadly Blackfire is right. If you keep paying more they will keep charging more.[/QUOTE]Monger01 and Blackfire are both right.

Their theory applies to all providers, MP girls and escorts.

They typically quote their Friday price to everyone everyday I know some escorts that upcharge after 10 pm and get it without hesitation.

Advice for all mongers! Stop Mongering on payday, save your money for a weekday and negotiate.

I have had providers contact me many times during the week asking for a date, price is usually 50% off or less.

MP's are more likely to give you your full hour when their phone is not blowing up on the weekend. Unfortunately it's far more difficult to get info on a MP provider menu until you're in the room and naked hoping for the best. Go in prepared to do it yourself, after negotiating. If you're there on a Friday you will usually be rushed through with no negotiations because they have a line and a quota to meet for their busiest day of the week. That's why I never monger Thursday (payday for some), Friday or Saturday.

[QUOTE=LongAwaited493;3979004]Fortunately for some of us we have the financial funds that $200 not a big deal to us. When I walk in the door they know I tip well and I get the service I want They will even put off one of the regulars when they see me walk in the door Money rules.[/QUOTE]My guess is that this new poster may be a parlor attendant but if not, you are surely one of those that the girls laugh at for paying $200 for a probably mediocre massage and a HJ.

[QUOTE=Hayleymatters;3978866]Rates will stay the same 80/ hr 50/ hh.

Sorry you feel that's to high.

Included in those rates is a hydro bed and table shower that.

Is finally here just waiting on some.

Permitting issues No extra cost for those services.

Very "clean" safe environment and always running specials.

And complimentary snacks water coffee tea beer and wine.

And all organic high end lotions and oils.

Most important providers that offer great service! This has been.

Hard to find but it's coming along!! Thanks again to all of are many serenity.

Relaxation regulars![/QUOTE]The hydro bed was truly unique and the intensity is adjustable. Definitely worth checking out. Hayley handed me the dail for adjustments and it took a couple of minutes to find the right spot, it can put you to sleep.

Haven't checked out the beer and wine menu because I don't drink alcohol.

The coffee is great, Always served with a smile.

Serenity has been a cool place to visit, occasionally I call ahead and tell them to put the coffee on. It is a relaxation station and often very fun place for me. I will repeat.

[QUOTE=LongAwaited493;3979004]Fortunately for some of us we have the financial funds that $200 not a big deal to us. When I walk in the door they know I tip well and I get the service I want They will even put off one of the regulars when they see me walk in the door Money rules.[/QUOTE]To a point, you are right. However only to a point. I know some massage providers that appreciate a regular and the income that brings and act accordingly. I know some that will squeeze every penny out of each encounter with as little effort as possible and likely hardly see customers more than once. Naturally, there are providers who fall in between those extremes.

That said, if there are providers who will "put off a regular when they see" you walk in, I'd sure like to know who these women are. In case I am one of their regulars, I'd like to adjust my habits.

What you are describing is the sort of penny-wise, pound-foolish business practices that drive good customers away and make room for all sorts of unfortunate attitudes and hassles. I can promise you and anyone who might be paying attention if I find I am being shoved aside by some walking wallet, it will be the last $120 - $160 that provider gets from me and I don't care what she'll do when the door closes. Do it enough and she'd better hope that your $200 is enough for the week as I'm fairly certain I'm not alone.

[QUOTE=LongAwaited493;3979004]Fortunately for some of us we have the financial funds that $200 not a big deal to us. When I walk in the door they know I tip well and I get the service I want They will even put off one of the regulars when they see me walk in the door Money rules.[/QUOTE]Really? That's good to know they will cancel an appointment for a few extra bucks. Cancel on me and I won't come back.

Just like our escort thread, a prolific monger posts a bad review and by crazy coincidence a new poster posts a first ever post countering it.
We are not that stupid.
But sure, if dropping double the going rate works for you its your money.
And I give Haley credit for posting details in response. And don't blame them for trying if they can hold those rates. I won't pay them but all the big spenders can of course.

[QUOTE=LongAwaited493;3979004]Fortunately for some of us we have the financial funds that $200 not a big deal to us. When I walk in the door they know I tip well and I get the service I want They will even put off one of the regulars when they see me walk in the door Money rules.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Hayleymatters;3978866]Rates will stay the same 80/ hr 50/ hh.

Sorry you feel that's to high.

Included in those rates is a hydro bed and table shower that.

Is finally here just waiting on some.

Permitting issues No extra cost for those services.

Very "clean" safe environment and always running specials.

And complimentary snacks water coffee tea beer and wine.

And all organic high end lotions and oils.

Most important providers that offer great service! This has been.

Hard to find but it's coming along!! Thanks again to all of are many serenity.

Relaxation regulars![/QUOTE]Thanks for clearing things up Haley. Your rates don't sound bad if they include the Hydro bed and table shower. It sounds like you are trying to do things the right way now and I applaud that. The mistake that some make is discussing tips in the room, that is such a buzz kill! I mean who tips a waitress before the meal without knowing how good the service will be? The girls that do the best and get crazy business are the ones that NEVER discuss tips or try to hide it by calling the appointment an "Exotic session", etc. Just give a nice fun session and we will tip accordingly! One of my favorites is of course Natasha at Panacea. She has never, ever discussed a tip amount and she makes money hand over fist by giving great service and sees the value in repeat customers.

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[QUOTE=JimmyTheKid2;3972762]Had the opportunity to finally see Amyna after trying to schedule with her the past few days. Communication was great via text and she was really accomadating with her scheduling as my schedule can be very inconsistent. She was running about 20 minutes late due to other clients showing up late. My day was open so I was happy to wait for her. Amyna, is a super sweet girl and was very appreciative of my patience. I booked an hour with her, but actually received closer to 1. 5 hours (I was her last client). She is nice to look at and her attitude is even better. She is enjoyable to talk to and has a really cute laugh. The massage is actually really good. She used medium pressure and ended with some light touch with her fingernails that gave me goosebumps. Tickle teasing is awesome. The flip was great. She's my favorite so far and will be back to see her. Damage was 60/60. Stay safe. JTK.[/QUOTE]My absolute go to whenever I am in GR. Couldn't agree more.

[QUOTE=LoveTheLips;3979213]Thanks for clearing things up Haley. Your rates don't sound bad if they include the Hydro bed and table shower. It sounds like you are trying to do things the right way now and I applaud that. The mistake that some make is discussing tips in the room, that is such a buzz kill! I mean who tips a waitress before the meal without knowing how good the service will be? The girls that do the best and get crazy business are the ones that NEVER discuss tips or try to hide it by calling the appointment an "Exotic session", etc. Just give a nice fun session and we will tip accordingly! One of my favorites is of course Natasha at Panacea. She has never, ever discussed a tip amount and she makes money hand over fist by giving great service and sees the value in repeat customers.[/QUOTE]Yes I agree with you on that! Once that session starts and door is shut I can't do much or monitor what a provider does, but these reviews from you mongers does help and like I said I'm trying and learning a lot!