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Ok guys. This one is in Seattle. I did a rob report and she keeps her profile in Vegas to let my report blow over. She's managed! And a rob!!
Stay away. Pimp is in and out of jail!!
Be careful. She'll get back in Seattle eventually.
Happy hunting.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/f826f91b-bea9-44ff-a1c2-48746addf71a?_cf_ref=aHR0cDovL3d3dy51c2FzZXhndWlkZS5ubC8%3D[/URL]
[QUOTE=Darkhosis;6313822]I don't know if I should report on WYP, it's just all around a bad investment. I tried it and wasted most of my time explaining why I won't do pre-pay, and very few are verified.
Including this one, calls herself Catherine. Accepts a low offer and immediately gets into arrangement talk (immediate yes). Butters you up and then starts begging for small donations.
[URL]https://members.whatsyourprice.com/profile/dXPk7LxQAzj3ddMA3RqOp9gW[/URL]
Watch out, possible catfish and / or rob. Two days of texting, but then bails when I want to plan to meet at a bar. She wants to go straight to my place without meeting in person. Yeah, hell no.[/QUOTE]I'd already initiated contact with "Catherine," and had switched to texting, before reading this post. No requests for money but her text responses were terse and tepid, making me wonder whether I was texting with a bot. As of a day ago, that profile is no longer available on WYP. Fine by me, I'll find somebody else who's interested in getting paid to dress nicely, enjoy a meal and drinks together, and see whether there's a connection.
[QUOTE=Darkhosis;6314202]Good to know, it may be my sample size then. I tried the minimum credit buy in of 100 and got 6 accepted offers. Four moved to text, one wouldn't give me her number w / out $ and one stopped responding after the first message. So technically a 66% response rate. OF model aside (she didn't get anything out of me), I have a pretty good criteria for fakes.
However, of the four willing to set up a date: one gave off psycho vibes, one lied about living in Seattle (I'm not driving to Oly), and two were straight scams. So, in the end, 33% chance of meeting an actual person but then it's still a roll of the dice.
The problem I have is how to tell the ones who are there for platonic dates vs non-platonic. I probably need to change my demographic criteria. They definitely could use more filters in the search. And I wish there was a way to block 1 photo profiles.[/QUOTE]The lying about living in Seattle is bizarre. I get that constantly. It's not just Olympia, it's any place in Western Washington. No matter if it's 3 hours away. Live in Shelton? Just put Seattle down.
[QUOTE=Michael1967;6314081]WYP has been a jackpot for me. In the last 9 months, I would say about 60% of the dates I actually go on, I get laid. Some for extra money, some because they like me. Two didn't fuck me, but gave me a BJ in the car. I've gotten better at determining scammers on that site, but I would probably say about 1 in 3 never follow up after you pay to message them. I don't know if the site is making fake profiles or someone made a fake profile with the intent of scamming and just never followed through. I have also met a couple of the "newer" TNA people on that site before they got on TNA.
So, I actually prefer that site over Seeking. On Seeking, everyone is looking for a SD on this site, I've met "normal" chicks that think its a site that you get paid for dating and nothing else.[/QUOTE]60% is kind of a low percentage.
Time is fucking precious, just a date between traveling back and forth and a meal is at least three hours of my time. My percentage in SA is 90+%. It takes a bit of effort to set up a date but once its there, it should be close to a sure deal.
[QUOTE=Original703;6317203]I'd already initiated contact with "Catherine," and had switched to texting, before reading this post. No requests for money but her text responses were terse and tepid, making me wonder whether I was texting with a bot. As of a day ago, that profile is no longer available on WYP. Fine by me, I'll find somebody else who's interested in getting paid to dress nicely, enjoy a meal and drinks together, and see whether there's a connection.[/QUOTE]I actually confronted Catherine about the catfishing because I had nothing better to do. Her cashapp has "armywife4 life" in it, so either just a bored base wife but the bad English sounds like a foreign national. Still called me Daddy, LOL.
Kay is 100% a scam, went by Kayla before I got her banned. It was my first match and I got suckered out of half my offer. Was very specific about where she was living in Seattle, etc until the no show.
[URL]https://members.whatsyourprice.com/profile/98LnkZl60q98Mwe0jzarbyYv[/URL]
This one goes by Mia, won't budge without a deposit. I tried to verify, but gave up after I realized if she's going to keep arguing over a few bucks then the experience would be terrible or more likely just a total scam.
[URL]https://members.whatsyourprice.com/profile/rZy1ga285vp8O97Ad9Pvjxbo[/URL]
Can you fine purveyors of OF and porn tell me if this is another catfish?
[URL]https://members.whatsyourprice.com/profile/8DrBaQ1bJ69zzGdA2kXOyeMz[/URL]
[QUOTE=Darkhosis;6317368]I actually confronted Catherine about the catfishing because I had nothing better to do. Her cashapp has "armywife4 life" in it, so either just a bored base wife but the bad English sounds like a foreign national. Still called me Daddy, LOL.
Kay is 100% a scam, went by Kayla before I got her banned. It was my first match and I got suckered out of half my offer. Was very specific about where she was living in Seattle, etc until the no show.
[URL]https://members.whatsyourprice.com/profile/98LnkZl60q98Mwe0jzarbyYv[/URL]
This one goes by Mia, won't budge without a deposit. I tried to verify, but gave up after I realized if she's going to keep arguing over a few bucks then the experience would be terrible or more likely just a total scam.
[URL]https://members.whatsyourprice.com/profile/rZy1ga285vp8O97Ad9Pvjxbo[/URL][/QUOTE]Whoa! I have been on at least 30 dates on WYP and not once has anyone asked for a deposit. The site specifically bans that to stop scammers. Don't pay deposits.
Also, both of these profiles wouldn't make it past my scammer screening. If they can't take a minute to write two sentences about themselves they are either fake or simply not worth the money. Why go on a date with someone that can't say two sentences about themselves on a dating site?
[QUOTE=Michael1967;6314081]WYP has been a jackpot for me. In the last 9 months, I would say about 60% of the dates I actually go on, I get laid. Some for extra money, some because they like me. Two didn't fuck me, but gave me a BJ in the car. I've gotten better at determining scammers on that site, but I would probably say about 1 in 3 never follow up after you pay to message them. I don't know if the site is making fake profiles or someone made a fake profile with the intent of scamming and just never followed through. I have also met a couple of the "newer" TNA people on that site before they got on TNA.
So, I actually prefer that site over Seeking. On Seeking, everyone is looking for a SD on this site, I've met "normal" chicks that think its a site that you get paid for dating and nothing else.[/QUOTE]What is TNA?
[QUOTE=DelToro;6317354]60% is kind of a low percentage.
Time is fucking precious, just a date between traveling back and forth and a meal is at least three hours of my time. My percentage in SA is 90+%. It takes a bit of effort to set up a date but once its there, it should be close to a sure deal.[/QUOTE]I'm actually on WYP to civi date. So, its probably different for me. That's why I find it successful. If I'm trying to civi date and get laid 60% of the time, that's better than going to bars or using OK Cupid. I've dated three civi people regularly from WYP in the last year.
[QUOTE=DelToro;6317354]60% is kind of a low percentage.
Time is fucking precious, just a date between traveling back and forth and a meal is at least three hours of my time. My percentage in SA is 90+%. It takes a bit of effort to set up a date but once its there, it should be close to a sure deal.[/QUOTE]Maybe I am just too paranoid. I insist on a public meeting first in almost all cases, and prefer we both have a couple of days to think about it before going for a private and intimate meeting. Since I'm picky about them I close with about 20 to 25 percent of 'them. On the other side they typically stay in my rotation for at least six months or so, and I prefer having them in a rotation for a long time if they are a good fit.
It is just that I have no patience for drama or BS and won't put up with it just to get my dick wet. I can get a no-drama fuck at any MP or AAMP for less so if I just want a one and done that's what I go for.
[QUOTE=Michael1967;6318580]Whoa! I have been on at least 30 dates on WYP and not once has anyone asked for a deposit. The site specifically bans that to stop scammers. Don't pay deposits.
Also, both of these profiles wouldn't make it past my scammer screening. If they can't take a minute to write two sentences about themselves they are either fake or simply not worth the money. Why go on a date with someone that can't say two sentences about themselves on a dating site?[/QUOTE]The one who scammed me had a fuller description in her original profile, and one of the best experiences I had at SA was with a type that didn't say a lot. But, yeah, I was being stupid.
I had been on a bit of a hot streak on SA and got reckless. "Premium" membership and nudes convinced me to CashApp her 50 bucks before the meet. More angry about the wasted time than money:
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/ec55ca8f-338e-440e-96ad-63c4e1eeeaa3[/URL]
Is Sarcasticfungirl around?
Will she still do bareback gang bangs?
[QUOTE=MarkoRamius;6318768]Maybe I am just too paranoid. I insist on a public meeting first in almost all cases, and prefer we both have a couple of days to think about it before going for a private and intimate meeting. Since I'm picky about them I close with about 20 to 25 percent of 'them. On the other side they typically stay in my rotation for at least six months or so, and I prefer having them in a rotation for a long time if they are a good fit.
It is just that I have no patience for drama or BS and won't put up with it just to get my dick wet. I can get a no-drama fuck at any MP or AAMP for less so if I just want a one and done that's what I go for.[/QUOTE]I do public meeting first always, but I do try to move to intimacy afterwards. Of course without pressuring them, as I am also optimizing for a long run, not just one and move on.
But before we meet, we usually chat quite a bit to limit the possible surprises that would make me not to move forward.
[QUOTE=FarFarAway;6318592]What is TNA?[/QUOTE]It's seeking without having your time wasted! It's a hooker site. They're all basically hookers at this point.
[QUOTE=PriceIsRight39;6321138]It's seeking without having your time wasted! It's a hooker site. They're all basically hookers at this point.[/QUOTE]After spending a couple months with high success rate on Secret Benefits I'm back to TNA. I thought I wanted these dates but the ladies are just as screwy if not worse. Way easier to be in and out and you aren't getting hit up to pay a cellphone bill every other day.
But the site does work about 30% of the time and there are some freaks. Met my first service sub on that site.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/5048a899-f35a-4e80-bb88-eab6b188d711[/URL]
Will tell you she is having bad day. She is broke and out of food. Wants cash app for food. Will ask for half of date cash apped to her before date. Luckily I talked her way down so I only lost a little. Won't show for date.
[QUOTE=PriceIsRight39;6321138]It's seeking without having your time wasted! It's a hooker site. They're all basically hookers at this point.[/QUOTE]SA requires a bit more finesse, so the YMMV factor is way stronger, (also you need to concentrate in the more realistic population (not the super hot 20 something) that are still better looking than the average TNA provider) but for some SA is a gem even now that is not as good as a few years back, one could have much better experiences there than in TNA. And I was a top reviewer at TNA with the perks of being a known entity there entailed.
[QUOTE=PriceIsRight39;6321138]It's seeking without having your time wasted! It's a hooker site. They're all basically hookers at this point.[/QUOTE]There are no shortage of total time wasters on TNA.
For me the sugar sites are far better places to look than TNA or any escort sites. Yes, there are a lot of scammers and grifters on any of those sites. But there are on any escort site too.
From my standpoint you can do a better job of screening out to find suitable ladies on sugar sites for far less money (though sometimes more time) than any escort site. You are going to have (for all practical purposes) zero LE problems, and while every escort I've seen in the last fifteen years has been addicted to something, you can actually meet a lot of girls on the sugar sites who aren't junkies. It is kind of refreshing.
Also, the sugar site girls know they need to make a good impression on that first date, so you aren't likely to have many of the petty and silly dramas the TNA whales put all of us through.
[QUOTE=ScottScot;6319420]I had been on a bit of a hot streak on SA and got reckless. "Premium" membership and nudes convinced me to CashApp her 50 bucks before the meet. More angry about the wasted time than money:
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/ec55ca8f-338e-440e-96ad-63c4e1eeeaa3[/URL][/QUOTE]I never would have messaged this girl, she gives me off the batshit crazy vibe.
[QUOTE=DelToro;6322129]SA requires a bit more finesse, so the YMMV factor is way stronger, (also you need to concentrate in the more realistic population (not the super hot 20 something) that are still better looking than the average TNA provider) but for some SA is a gem even now that is not as good as a few years back, one could have much better experiences there than in TNA. And I was a top reviewer at TNA with the perks of being a known entity there entailed.[/QUOTE]The past couple weeks at SA and WYP there has been an increase in fake / scam profiles and a lot less attractive seekers compared to before the holidays. Is this normal for this time of year or something?
[QUOTE=Darkhosis;6322812]The past couple weeks at SA and WYP there has been an increase in fake / scam profiles and a lot less attractive seekers compared to before the holidays. Is this normal for this time of year or something?[/QUOTE]Maybe, but I had fucked 8 new women from SA since the beginning of the year. I had two more that ghosted me. My profile is fairly explicit so when a woman replies to me, they know there is no BS.
What I have noticed is an increase on condom usage, I usually do not request bare, but usually it happens 85%+ of the time, but 4 out of those 8 required them, and oddly 3 of those 4 go to sapphire.
[QUOTE=DelToro;6323261]Maybe, but I had fucked 8 new women from SA since the beginning of the year. I had two more that ghosted me. My profile is fairly explicit so when a woman replies to me, they know there is no BS.
What I have noticed is an increase on condom usage, I usually do not request bare, but usually it happens 85%+ of the time, but 4 out of those 8 required them, and oddly 3 of those 4 go to sapphire.[/QUOTE]Bare what? We are talking about condom blowjobs here?
[QUOTE=DelToro;6323261]Maybe, but I had fucked 8 new women from SA since the beginning of the year. I had two more that ghosted me. My profile is fairly explicit so when a woman replies to me, they know there is no BS.
What I have noticed is an increase on condom usage, I usually do not request bare, but usually it happens 85%+ of the time, but 4 out of those 8 required them, and oddly 3 of those 4 go to sapphire.[/QUOTE]I caught something from a Seeking girl using a condom. It broke (twice) and though I immediately stopped and put on a new one, that didn't stop anything. I (or you guys) lucked out because I reached out to the last 4 people I saw and all 4 tested negative. So, it was literally the last person I fucked. I'm out of commission until at least March. My doctor isn't treating one of the things I got (yes, I got more than one) because she's waiting for more tests to see if it's a false positive. 35 years of this and this is the second time. First in 22 years. It's nothing untreatable, just embarrassing. My New Year's resolution was to not pay for hookers or wannabe hookers in the US and I started meeting normal people and doing civi dates. I have 3 people that I'm supposed to go out with that I have to cancel, because you never know what will happen on a date and I don't want to give them something.
And no, I'm not saying who it is, but if you are seeing or had been a Seeking girl from Venezuela, get tested.
[QUOTE=Michael1967;6323327]I caught something from a Seeking girl using a condom. It broke (twice) and though I immediately stopped and put on a new one, that didn't stop anything. I (or you guys) lucked out because I reached out to the last 4 people I saw and all 4 tested negative. So, it was literally the last person I fucked. I'm out of commission until at least March. My doctor isn't treating one of the things I got because she's waiting for more tests to see if it's a false positive. 35 years of this and this is the second time. First in 22 years.
And no, I'm not saying who it is, but if you are seeing or had been a Seeking girl from Venezuela, get tested.[/QUOTE]I never went bare in TNA and never got anything in 10 years
In SA if the occasion arises and I feel comfortable I might go bare. Have been there 6 years, I test every three months. I did caught something once like 3 years ago but got it fixed fairly easy. But yeah the risk is there.
[QUOTE=Michael1967;6323327]I caught something from a Seeking girl using a condom. It broke (twice) and though I immediately stopped and put on a new one, that didn't stop anything. I (or you guys) lucked out because I reached out to the last 4 people I saw and all 4 tested negative. So, it was literally the last person I fucked. I'm out of commission until at least March. My doctor isn't treating one of the things I got (yes, I got more than one) because she's waiting for more tests to see if it's a false positive. 35 years of this and this is the second time. First in 22 years. It's nothing untreatable, just embarrassing. My New Year's resolution was to not pay for hookers or wannabe hookers in the US and I started meeting normal people and doing civi dates. I have 3 people that I'm supposed to go out with that I have to cancel, because you never know what will happen on a date and I don't want to give them something.[/QUOTE]Sorry to hear that man. It is rare to catch something if you are using a condom, but in your case, it did tear. Either way. Maybe a break until March is good. You will enjoy it more when you have waited a little. .
[QUOTE=DrtyHarry;6323538]Sorry to hear that man. It is rare to catch something if you are using a condom, but in your case, it did tear. Either way. Maybe a break until March is good. You will enjoy it more when you have waited a little..[/QUOTE]I caught clymedia from a SA years ago from a BBBJ and cfs, the only time in my 30 rears of banging as an adult, but a ZPak and 7 days later all good.
Sorry to hear that man, get well.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/039f1a45-1b69-4513-9333-cad5777ab6e4[/URL]
Any info / experience on this Asian chick?
[QUOTE=DaCruz6;6326110][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/039f1a45-1b69-4513-9333-cad5777ab6e4[/URL]
Any info / experience on this Asian chick?[/QUOTE]No experience but she lists her body as "average" and doesn't show any body pictures. My guess is she might be bigger than it seems. Depends if that's your thing or not.
CW.
[QUOTE=DaCruz6;6326110][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/039f1a45-1b69-4513-9333-cad5777ab6e4[/URL]
Any info / experience on this Asian chick?[/QUOTE]Wanted 800 ppm, I passed.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/453d5db0-ab81-43d8-89a8-1f13f763d644[/URL]
Any experience or information with Savvmoore on SA? I see she's been on Seeking for quite awhile now but nobody has seemed to mention her positively or negatively. I'm wondering if she is worth pursuing. Someone has had to have some type of engagement.
Your feedback is appreciated.
[QUOTE=Lego19;6326183]Wanted 800 ppm, I passed.[/QUOTE]Her profile states she is a "top 15% * creator". The simp crowd has definitely inflated her perception of her market value.
It's a weird word where a woman that wouldn't be able to get a free drink in a bar can make thousands for sending feet and elbow pictures to people.
1. Really chill, chatted for a day then met for drinks and ended up with her head in my lap when I dropped her off. Never enjoyed the kitty but the head game was amazing enough to justify a few quick meetups since I was staying around the block from her. She has a great little body and isn't afraid of a blowbang / mini-bukake party.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/821ed085-e80b-4840-9884-432d09168c4f[/URL]
2. Cute, not chubby but no real figure. She came up and had a beer near my place after a week or so of chatting. I'd just been drained by "celi4" so was good to just do a meet and greet but she was super horny. Super submissive, few rules. Took it rough, for hours, not a quitter. Thank goodness for plan b.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/acda428c-aace-4e9d-a6cd-955a6ec9e32a[/URL]
1. Really chill, chatted for a day then met for drinks and ended up with her head in my lap when I dropped her off. Never enjoyed the kitty but the head game was amazing enough to justify a few quick meetups since I was staying around the block from her. She has a great little body and isn't afraid of a blowbang / mini-bukake party.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/821ed085-e80b-4840-9884-432d09168c4f[/URL]
2. Cute, not chubby but no real figure. She came up and had a beer near my place after a week or so of chatting. I'd just been drained by "celi4" so was good to just do a meet and greet but she was super horny. Super submissive, few rules. Took it rough, for hours, not a quitter. Thank goodness for plan b.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/acda428c-aace-4e9d-a6cd-955a6ec9e32a[/URL]
[QUOTE=QuickDip;6326525]Her profile states she is a "top 15% * creator". The simp crowd has definitely inflated her perception of her market value.
It's a weird word where a woman that wouldn't be able to get a free drink in a bar can make thousands for sending feet and elbow pictures to people.[/QUOTE]I had a top 5% creator in my office recently. She brought in $31 K before expenses. Nothing impressive. She made over $100 K in tips alone as a Bikini Barista (or at least that's what she paid tax on). I had to look it up but it appears a Top 10% creator makes over $1000 month. Someone posted she was Top 12% and made $700 month. So, I would assume this person makes $500-600 month on only fans.
[QUOTE=Michael1967;6327494]I had a top 5% creator in my office recently. She brought in $31 K before expenses. Nothing impressive. She made over $100 K in tips alone as a Bikini Barista (or at least that's what she paid tax on). I had to look it up but it appears a Top 10% creator makes over $1000 month. Someone posted she was Top 12% and made $700 month. So, I would assume this person makes $500-600 month on only fans.[/QUOTE]You can't live in Seattle on that! Couldn't even live in Wenatchee on that! You have to realize these women are young and the only clue they have is guys just want to F* them so they try and make money off of that. Can't really blame them, it's simple supply and demand. And Seattle is an expensive place to live.
[QUOTE=Lego19;6326183]Wanted 800 ppm, I passed.[/QUOTE]Yea, f* that. Was slightly interested but not at gps rates.
Her insta has pics of her before she went rave emo look with piercings all over her face.
Anyhow, thank you all for saving me time!
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/18b1d275-4c66-44dc-b84d-23dab17977a2[/URL]
Not much info I can gather from profile. Is she wearing some fast food joint uniform? Any experience with this one?
I have five dates coming up this next week. Most of the girls have selected "discreet affairs" as one of their interests. I know we touched on this recently but I'm hoping for more feedback. From your experience, how many of you have converted a $100 offer mid date into a PPM? Versus just, fucking without that. I'm just curious to get a sense of the odds. And yes, I know that the flake factor will probably be higher, but let's just play along for the sake of the question your success, or experience on this issue?
[QUOTE=KnoxNenters;6328655]I have five dates coming up this next week. Most of the girls have selected "discreet affairs" as one of their interests. I know we touched on this recently but I'm hoping for more feedback. From your experience, how many of you have converted a $100 offer mid date into a PPM? Versus just, fucking without that. I'm just curious to get a sense of the odds. And yes, I know that the flake factor will probably be higher, but let's just play along for the sake of the question your success, or experience on this issue?[/QUOTE]I shouldn't say this, but you'll pretty much be able to tell during the date.My very first WYP date offered to take me to her home in Issaquah for more money (wrote about it here when it happened). I had one that thought the offer included hooking up. Best sex I had since I've been single. I miss her.
As I mentioned before, about 60% of my dates turn into sex. Some for money, but most not. I also take them to a nice restaurant, can make decent, conversation and (probably most important) get a few drinks in them. Coffee dates are always a no for me. I think one very important reason for my success is that I NEVER bring up sex. If they bring up the subject, then it's game on. I just think they are nervous anyway and if you bring up sex, you're going to creep them out.
I did go on a shitty date in Everett. She was the worst conversation ever and never even took off her jacket. When I was walking her back to her car, I saw what was under the jacket and she was hot as fuck. I offered her money. She got in her car and immediately blocked me. So, I probably wouldn't do that again. Could've tried for a second date.
One question I always ask is, "why are you on the site?" Their answer should dictate your next step. If they say they need money, then you ask them if $100 dates once or twice per week will actually make a dent. At that point, use your discretion. Also have a answer ready for when they you the same question. "I'm just looking for horny chicks to bareback" isn't acceptable.