Massage Parlor Reports

[QUOTE=AngleOfRepose;6475985]This may belong in "Rants and Raves"; nonetheless.

This is complete BS on a couple of fronts. Foremost is the obvious: there is no public interest served in interdicting activities occurring during massage therapy. There is no threat to public health or safety. But increasingly this sort of arrest smacks of targeting a vulnerable population. These are extremely hard-working immigrants providing a service no other cohort would provide at this price. One wonders if they are arrested simply because they can be. They don't speak fluently; they have limited access to legal resources; but most importantly in an age when shoplifting and auto theft have become essentially legal in metropolitan areas: they don't protest their treatment loudly, and no social justice warriors or publications organize to spring their defense.

Perhaps if the police felt less impunity in these operations, they wouldn't be so cavalier in undertaking them. At the very least, the "detectives" should be named and face the same public scrutiny as the workers they arrested. While it is entirely possible they did not sexually harass or even rape these massage therapists, there is no reason they should be personally or professionally free of such allegations--the same as they levied against the therapists.[/QUOTE]If you look at past busts and what happens to the working women on judiciary case search they are at most fined. They generally do not serve any time beyond the initial arrest (a day or two). Prosecutors are not interested in rounding up these women throwing them in jail or deporting them. They are largely considered victims of trafficking or exploitation from the massage parlor owners. Those are the real targets who can be prosecuted for tax evasion money laundering and trafficking. The hard working women in the spas are just witnesses in a larger game.

[QUOTE=AngleOfRepose;6475985]This may belong in "Rants and Raves"; nonetheless.

This is complete BS on a couple of fronts. Foremost is the obvious: there is no public interest served in interdicting activities occurring during massage therapy. There is no threat to public health or safety. But increasingly this sort of arrest smacks of targeting a vulnerable population. These are extremely hard-working immigrants providing a service no other cohort would provide at this price. One wonders if they are arrested simply because they can be. They don't speak fluently; they have limited access to legal resources; but most importantly in an age when shoplifting and auto theft have become essentially legal in metropolitan areas: they don't protest their treatment loudly, and no social justice warriors or publications organize to spring their defense.

Perhaps if the police felt less impunity in these operations, they wouldn't be so cavalier in undertaking them. At the very least, the "detectives" should be named and face the same public scrutiny as the workers they arrested. While it is entirely possible they did not sexually harass or even rape these massage therapists, there is no reason they should be personally or professionally free of such allegations--the same as they levied against the therapists.[/QUOTE]Totally agree! Amen to your post! So are they shutdown or just the non licensed being prosecuted? Or whatever. Wonder what prompted the raid as LEO must have been aware that the place is basically a house of prostitution for years. I have had many a fun time there myself and would hate to see them shut down.

[QUOTE=Dave1984;6478227]Totally agree! Amen to your post! So are they shutdown or just the non licensed being prosecuted? Or whatever. Wonder what prompted the raid as LEO must have been aware that the place is basically a house of prostitution for years. I have had many a fun time there myself and would hate to see them shut down.[/QUOTE]I was there on Monday afternoon. The place was closed.

So I have been back to Wellness Foot a few times since my previous report where I said they had reused towels. Why? I guess being dumb and / or lazy due to proximity. I felt like after calling Lucy out on it, and her going and changing the towels, maybe there was a 1% chance they changed their ways haha.

Recent visit was the absolute worst. On the visit before this most recent one, I asked for "Wei Wei" but was told she was in China. Not sure if that's true or if she is just gone for ever. So I asked about the new slim lady I saw and Lucy (older chubby / thick in a older mom kinda way, but gives a decent to good massage) said she was busy, but I got her name "You You".

On this most recent visit, I made an appt with "You You". Not sure how you spell it but that's how its pronounced. Petite, maybe late 40's-early 50's, with a backside flatter than your living room wall.

She gave a top 5 worst massage ever. Think to your laziest massage where all they did was push with very little massage, and basically stayed in the same spot or area. When I flipped off my back, I laid there while she spent like 2-3 minutes checking her phone. This was literally the first time my neck and shoulders were NOT massage. Not an exaggeration, she literally never touched my neck or shoulders LOL.

I could not wait to get out of there. Based on her demeanor when I arrived, I made it 30 minutes, which ultimately was a very wise decision.

When I was leaving, I saw that she changed the table cover but refolded the towel that she laid across me on the flip and placed it neatly on the bed for the next person. Which means that I most likely got a used towel as well.

I'll be avoiding them completely from now on.

Phone number dead. Drove by, closed, lights off.

Its too bad. I thought they would never close. If anyone has any contact info for the girls, or know what spa they go to next, please PM. I have some under the radars for trade.

[QUOTE=JaffeMD;6479495]So I have been back to Wellness Foot a few times since my previous report where I said they had reused towels. Why? I guess being dumb and / or lazy due to proximity. I felt like after calling Lucy out on it, and her going and changing the towels, maybe there was a 1% chance they changed their ways haha.

Recent visit was the absolute worst. On the visit before this most recent one, I asked for "Wei Wei" but was told she was in China. Not sure if that's true or if she is just gone for ever. So I asked about the new slim lady I saw and Lucy (older chubby / thick in a older mom kinda way, but gives a decent to good massage) said she was busy, but I got her name "You You".

On this most recent visit, I made an appt with "You You". Not sure how you spell it but that's how its pronounced. Petite, maybe late 40's-early 50's, with a backside flatter than your living room wall.

She gave a top 5 worst massage ever. Think to your laziest massage where all they did was push with very little massage, and basically stayed in the same spot or area. When I flipped off my back, I laid there while she spent like 2-3 minutes checking her phone. This was literally the first time my neck and shoulders were NOT massage. Not an exaggeration, she literally never touched my neck or shoulders LOL.

I could not wait to get out of there. Based on her demeanor when I arrived, I made it 30 minutes, which ultimately was a very wise decision.

When I was leaving, I saw that she changed the table cover but refolded the towel that she laid across me on the flip and placed it neatly on the bed for the next person. Which means that I most likely got a used towel as well.

I'll be avoiding them completely from now on.[/QUOTE]I always wish that le shut down these places instead of our favorites. We would be collectively celebrating the demise of places like wellness.

[QUOTE=DCHung;6478079]If you look at past busts and what happens to the working women on judiciary case search they are at most fined. They generally do not serve any time beyond the initial arrest (a day or two). Prosecutors are not interested in rounding up these women throwing them in jail or deporting them. They are largely considered victims of trafficking or exploitation from the massage parlor owners. Those are the real targets who can be prosecuted for tax evasion money laundering and trafficking. The hard working women in the spas are just witnesses in a larger game.[/QUOTE](More raid rant--moderator, remove if not allowed.).

Yes, I agree with you that these kinds of arrests seldom result in serious prosecution. And I have heard the public justification that these women are being trafficked. However, no other kind of trafficking victims (of which there actually are a few) are publicly named, pictured, and hauled down to the police station for questioning, much less a night in jail--just the older Asian ladies, for whom this must be a terrifying experience. What normally seems to happen when prosecutors decline to prosecute certain types of crime--like shoplifting, or accosting cars at stoplights in Baltimore--is that police stop interdicting infractions, and that crime becomes de facto legal.

So that makes these arrests and their manner very puzzling. There appears to be no public interest served by policing massages (versus rounding up streetwalkers and johns sullying public spaces and underwriting the local drug trade). It's hard to see even what the police get out of it: how do these kind of unseemly and unproductive busts provide any career stepping-stones? One can only speculate there is some kind of quiet "fee" these establishments didn't understand or pay in full. Perhaps if the officers involved were publicly named from available court documents their motives would be clearer.

AoR.

[QUOTE=AngleOfRepose;6480725](More raid rant--moderator, remove if not allowed.).

Yes, I agree with you that these kinds of arrests seldom result in serious prosecution. And I have heard the public justification that these women are being trafficked. However, no other kind of trafficking victims (of which there actually are a few) are publicly named, pictured, and hauled down to the police station for questioning, much less a night in jail--just the older Asian ladies, for whom this must be a terrifying experience. What normally seems to happen when prosecutors decline to prosecute certain types of crime--like shoplifting, or accosting cars at stoplights in Baltimore--is that police stop interdicting infractions, and that crime becomes de facto legal.

So that makes these arrests and their manner very puzzling. There appears to be no public interest served by policing massages (versus rounding up streetwalkers and johns sullying public spaces and underwriting the local drug trade). It's hard to see even what the police get out of it: how do these kind of unseemly and unproductive busts provide any career stepping-stones? One can only speculate there is some kind of quiet "fee" these establishments didn't understand or pay in full. Perhaps if the officers involved were publicly named from available court documents their motives would be clearer.

AoR.[/QUOTE]"Authorities said human trafficking is not involved in this case. " Reported this morning in various sources. Might have been reported earlier elsewhere, but this is the first I have seen. Human trafficking is rare in AMPs. It's more of a hotel operation with young US citizen victims--can move victims around quickly and easily. Not that it never happens, but it's not the norm.

As one the many displaced by recent events and having recently been left wanting by my trip to Wellness, I'm desperate for a replacement to RL. Anyone willing to share any info?

TIA.

[QUOTE=AngleOfRepose;6480725](More raid rant--moderator, remove if not allowed.).

Yes, I agree with you that these kinds of arrests seldom result in serious prosecution. And I have heard the public justification that these women are being trafficked. However, no other kind of trafficking victims (of which there actually are a few) are publicly named, pictured, and hauled down to the police station for questioning, much less a night in jail--just the older Asian ladies, for whom this must be a terrifying experience. What normally seems to happen when prosecutors decline to prosecute certain types of crime--like shoplifting, or accosting cars at stoplights in Baltimore--is that police stop interdicting infractions, and that crime becomes de facto legal.

So that makes these arrests and their manner very puzzling. There appears to be no public interest served by policing massages (versus rounding up streetwalkers and johns sullying public spaces and underwriting the local drug trade). It's hard to see even what the police get out of it: how do these kind of unseemly and unproductive busts provide any career stepping-stones? One can only speculate there is some kind of quiet "fee" these establishments didn't understand or pay in full. Perhaps if the officers involved were publicly named from available court documents their motives would be clearer.

AoR.[/QUOTE]Well said! I too thought they would never close and wonder how long they were in business. I assumed that LEO knew full well what was going on and was somehow being compensated.

[QUOTE=JThoma13;6481245]As one the many displaced by recent events and having recently been left wanting by my trip to Wellness, I'm desperate for a replacement to RL. Anyone willing to share any info?

TIA.[/QUOTE]So if you're looking for simulated play there is Silk Spa to the east. If you're looking for safe play, there are two good ones left in greenbelt VIP and Rising Sun. If you're looking for expanded menu like RL, you're going to have to try the asian agencies in Tysons and DC. Eg [URL]https://blueoceanshow.com/[/URL] [URL]https://asiangem.site/[/URL].

[QUOTE=DCHung;6481912]So if you're looking for simulated play there is Silk Spa to the east. If you're looking for safe play, there are two good ones left in greenbelt VIP and Rising Sun. If you're looking for expanded menu like RL, you're going to have to try the asian agencies in Tysons and DC. Eg [URL]https://blueoceanshow.com/[/URL] [URL]https://asiangem.site/[/URL].[/QUOTE]I appreciate it!! Thanks, bro.

Is RL still closed?

[QUOTE=FSOnly;6486238]Is RL still closed?[/QUOTE]Rl will be closed for a while. These are not quick administrative corrections.

[QUOTE=DCHung;6486639]Rl will be closed for a while. These are not quick administrative corrections.[/QUOTE]Agreed. This sounds more like, "We are finally shutting you down for good. " If it ever reopens, my guess is that it will be like Silk. Non-FS and HJ only. There was no reason for them to bust them other than to send a message that the fun is over at that location.