Rants and Raves

[QUOTE=TMeister;4853792]Just feels sooo right to call it the "Trump Virus" when he's the evil person allowing it to run rampant in our country and kill 130,000 souls with more bodies piling up.

He has to own it forever.[/QUOTE]Interesting. And all this time I thought states, cities, and people had a say in it. I had no idea the president could just dictate everything and make society open up or shut it down.

In any event, I'll be glad when Follie's opens and I can decide for myself whether I want to risk going there for the rewards.

[QUOTE=Ozymandias;4853691]Not sure where you go that number? Covid deaths are 500,000+.

Eventually they'll be a million, and so on.

Still, 500,000 is a major war. I mean, the USA has lost 125,000, which is much higher than the toll of the Vietnam war.

But let's follow the logic, that 275,000 deaths doesn't merit a response.

9/11: just 3000 people died. We should have just ignored it, and really, ignore all terrorism (which kills, what, a few thousand people each year, tops? )

The Boeing Max crashes were nothing, like a few hundred people died, and we grounded the WHOLE FLEET? Just let them keep flying. Even if there are ten crashes a year, that's what, maybe 2000 people? Doesn't even register an impact.

Helmets on motorcycles? How many motor cycle crashes even are there? Screw those guys; there are a million better things to do than make bikers wear helmets. Maybe a couple hundred die a year, globally, tops!

How about something like the Rwandan genocide? Kind of a thing, like maybe a million people killed, but that's, what, 0. 01% of the world population? It's practically a non-event. I don't see why it was even covered in the news. They even made a movie about it! Pretty silly.

I mean, what's the calculus here? At what point do we say "hey, that's not nice, we should do something! Ten million? Fifty? A hundred million?. What's a hundred million people, like 1. 25% of all people! That leaves 98.75%. That's an A+ in school, and who isn't satisfied with an A+?

O.[/QUOTE]The craziest thing about This pandemic is the people who first screamed it's not a big deal and H1 N1 was worse now changing their stance and saying since 1 million people didn't die this is an election year hoax. Hell, the entire country shut down with no where to go and 125,000 people still died. Without a shut down how much higher would that number be? 300 k, maybe even 500 k people. How can someone compare the death rate of a virus that's killed 500 k in six months to anything we've seen before? You can't unless you're seriously retarded. How many people would die from car wrecks if we shut down national rodes and restricted people from driving? I'm sure it'd be a lot less than 125 k in four months.

[QUOTE=NewDude;4854067]The craziest thing about This pandemic is the people who first screamed it's not a big deal and H1 N1 was worse now changing their stance and saying since 1 million people didn't die this is an election year hoax. Hell, the entire country shut down with no where to go and 125,000 people still died. Without a shut down how much higher would that number be? 300 k, maybe even 500 k people. How can someone compare the death rate of a virus that's killed 500 k in six months to anything we've seen before? You can't unless you're seriously retarded. How many people would die from car wrecks if we shut down national rodes and restricted people from driving? I'm sure it'd be a lot less than 125 k in four months.[/QUOTE]How brainwashed do you have to be to think the entire world shut down because of the US election? How stupid do you have to be to think that the GLOBLAL media, scientific community, and political infrastructure is in on a hoax? LOL.

[QUOTE=TechSticles;4852468]And you are a genuinely real-world dipshit. You are a fucking poster child for everything that represents the "alternative facts" universe. Believing, with no expertise whatsoever, that you are smarter than people that spent their lives studying problems. Fortunately, you only represent about 30% of the US population, and it's becoming clear every day that folks are sick of the stupid shit you spout.

We'll see, alright.

BTW, go fuck yourself.[/QUOTE]Can't reason with someone that has TDS.

[QUOTE=Worf359;4853801]A report today said that 500,000 world wide have died from the coronavirus. That is still less than 1%. Fact unless you have a underlying health condition or are predisposed to heart failure lung disease or other preconditions there is a 95% chance (and that number is low) of you surviving the disease. I have friends in the medical field here in Atlanta and they are not seeing bodies piling up in the intensive care unit they're not having to stack them like cordwood in the morgue. ICU capacity is somewhere around 37%. While the local TV stations only reporting cases and not the number of deaths if this was the black plague like main stream media is saying it is they would be lined up at every hospital entrance watching the bodies come out on a conveyor belt. Should people take Sensible precautions yes. Should we hide in our homes for fear of going outside destroying our economy destroying the lives of millions of people? No. I have worked the entire time. Even had the antibody test a week ago I've not even come in contact with it. This is being used for fear mongering by one side and one side only the side that doesn't give a fuck how many people go hungry how many people lose their homes how many people lose their jobs for one reason and one reason only is they are trying to get one man out of office that's un-American that's bullshit.

[blue]You need to update your information. The overall IFR (Infectious Fatality Rate) for covid which includes all the old overweight people with diabetes and heart disease is .26% according to the CDC which makes the overall survival rate 99.74% not 95%.

I can't speak for Atlanta but the ruckus they are making in Texas about the hospitals being close to over full is bullshit, there are 4,000 hospital cases of covid in Texas and 80,000 staffed beds in the state. In Houston and Austin they are talking about the ICU shortage a lot yet in Houston only 12% of the total ICU cases are covid and in Austin that number is 10%.

It's election year bullshit, covid isn't nothing but it's nowhere near what they are making it to be.

A2[/blue][/QUOTE]I agree 100% A2.

[QUOTE=SgtLurker;4851439]Because it was their actions that cause so many unnecessary deaths, spread like wildfire through those places. Gov. DeSantis ordered them not to take the Covid patients and their death rate in those types of places was considerable less. Facts are Facts.[/QUOTE]Like he said Facts are Facts.

[QUOTE=HobbyMan51;4849372]Ourselves, dumbass. Please hide in your basement and never come out again. We can handle things quite nicely without you.[/QUOTE]If a halfway intelligent person can't see what happening here, then I think they don't want to see.

Most of this over reporting is $ driven.

We have a family member that works in the morgue hospital system, its crazy to hear him talk about all the "people that died from covid19 that didn't ", he says the hospitals get 3 k per covid death. 0. 00 if they die of natural causes, ie flu, pneumonia, old age ect.

Here are a few facts to chew on.

8,000 people a day die in the US from all causes, average Reported deaths due to covid-19 are 951 per day, the worst flu season on record was an average of 1800 per day during Spanish flu

As of June 28th, 2020, the average daily death toll due to the coronavirus (COVID-19) in the USA Was around 951 since the occurrance of the first case on February 15th. Based on data from 2019, almost eight thousand people die every day in the United States from all causes, on average. Preliminary maximum estimates tell us that during the 2019-2020 (October to April) influenza season, around 332 people died daily on average from influenza. Taking the latest numbers into account, it seems that since mid-February on average one out of eight deaths in the United States every day have involved COVID-19.

if you don't think the WHO and all these organizations are money driven by the Pharma companies, just spend 5 mins looking up where all the $ comes from.... its not hard to find
odd that NO "reporters" ever mention any of this,EVER


Source Cdc.

[QUOTE=NewDude;4854069]How brainwashed do you have to be to think the entire world shut down because of the US election? How stupid do you have to be to think that the GLOBLAL media, scientific community, and political infrastructure is in on a hoax? LOL.[/QUOTE]Will believe anything right wing media tells them LOL.

[QUOTE=TMeister;4853792]Just feels sooo right to call it the "Trump Virus" when he's the evil person allowing it to run rampant in our country and kill 130,000 souls with more bodies piling up.

He has to own it forever.[/QUOTE]It is so amazing that this virus does not spread through these protest the dems are prompting. I have never seen a virus that could react only based on what a the president does.

Give people their rights to work and support their families? That's fucking stupid trump. We are all going to die!

But Promote mass gatherings of people to riot, loot, burn down structures attack police.

[QUOTE=NewDude;4854067] the entire country shut down with no where to go and 125,000 people still died. Without a shut down how much higher would that number be? 300 k, maybe even 500 k people. [/QUOTE]45% of all US China virus deaths came from nursing homes. W / o the ignorant governors who sent China virus patients to nursing homes, no shutdown but with obvious safety measures in place for the sick and elderly, less would be dead.

Pro Tip: During a pandemic, quarantine/lockdown the sick, not the healthy.

[QUOTE=TechSticles;4852468]And you are a genuinely real-world dipshit. You are a fucking poster child for everything that represents the "alternative facts" universe. Believing, with no expertise whatsoever, that you are smarter than people that spent their lives studying problems. Fortunately, you only represent about 30% of the US population, and it's becoming clear every day that folks are sick of the stupid shit you spout.

We'll see, alright.

BTW, go fuck yourself.[/QUOTE]Pretty brave little putz, aren't you? Easy to be big and bad hiding behind your keyboard, isn't it Big Man? If you saw me I seriously doubt that you would say that to my face but if you ever want to do that just let me know. I will be most happy to provide that opportunity for you. I can tell though by your nearly incoherent sputterings that I struck a nerve and that makes me very, very happy. By the way, I represent at least 70% of the population, Einstein. Suck on that, idiot.

[QUOTE=Mike454;4854105]If a halfway intelligent person can't see what happening here, then I think they don't want to see.

Most of this over reporting is $ driven.

We have a family member that works in the morgue hospital system, its crazy to hear him talk about all the "people that died from covid19 that didn't ", he says the hospitals get 3 k per covid death. 0. 00 if they die of natural causes, ie flu, pneumonia, old age ect.

Here are a few facts to chew on.

8,000 people a day die in the US from all causes, average Reported deaths due to covid-19 are 951 per day, the worst flu season on record was an average of 1800 per day during Spanish flu

As of June 28th, 2020, the average daily death toll due to the coronavirus (COVID-19) in the USA Was around 951 since the occurrance of the first case on February 15th. Based on data from 2019, almost eight thousand people die every day in the United States from all causes, on average. Preliminary maximum estimates tell us that during the 2019-2020 (October to April) influenza season, around 332 people died daily on average from influenza. Taking the latest numbers into account, it seems that since mid-February on average one out of eight deaths in the United States every day have involved COVID-19..[/QUOTE]Thank you, Mike. I think that by now most everyone can see what a deluded idiot Techsticles is. He's a pouting little child sitting in his sandbox angrily beating his little shovel against his pail. Completely insignificant.

[QUOTE=AaronHamlet;4854444]45% of all US China virus deaths came from nursing homes. W / o the ignorant governors who sent China virus patients to nursing homes, no shutdown but with obvious safety measures in place for the sick and elderly, less would be dead.

Pro Tip: During a pandemic, quarantine/lockdown the sick, not the healthy.[/QUOTE]If we use your logic and say 45% are elderly the 70,000 Americans have died form COVID. If you are OK with that shame on you.

70,000 Americans are dead, if they died in a car everyone would say take the car off the road.

[QUOTE=Almanac;4853972]Interesting. And all this time I thought states, cities, and people had a say in it. I had no idea the president could just dictate everything and make society open up or shut it down.

In any event, I'll be glad when Follie's opens and I can decide for myself whether I want to risk going there for the rewards.[/QUOTE]Harry Truman had a famous sign on his desk that said "THE BUCK STOPS HERE". You can't pass the blame when you're the top dog.

We have an incompetent crybaby like Trump calling a deadly global pandemic a "hoax" in late February and then it goes on to kill 135,000 Americans and the bodies are still piling up.

He has to own it and have it named after him.

[QUOTE=HobbyMan51;4854494]Thank you, Mike. I think that by now most everyone can see what a deluded idiot Techsticles is. He's a pouting little child sitting in his sandbox angrily beating his little shovel against his pail. Completely insignificant.[/QUOTE]Thanks HobbyMan51 and All. I try to be courteous and avoid name calling because I've never found it to productive but this Mr. Ball Sack (Techsticles) is just a vulgar and rude individual who can't agree to disagree. I did want to mention that the rolling 7 day average daily death total for the US is at it's lowest point (596 deaths per day with Covid listed as the cause of death) since way back in March per the link listed below. If I had the intellectual horsepower of Mr. Ball Sack I would just post the graph but sadly, as a senior citizen, I struggle with such things. In any case, it does seem quite odd that the daily reported cases has been skyrocketing but the daily deaths have been dropping like a stone since early May. Funny that the CDC is just now considering that we are not at a 5% infection exposure rate but it could actually be tremendously higher! Of course the doubters will say the deaths will soon follow in a tidal wave but the Virus just hasn't been following that model to this point. So yes, the 70% have it figured out. Thanks and stay safe (even Mr. Ball Sack), and of course protect the sick and elderly while we get on with our lives.

[URL]https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us[/URL]