Safe Sex Information and Advice

[QUOTE=Lips1963;2932164]Great report! Could you please let us know how much this cost? I'm unfamiliar with that club mainly because I was told that extras were rare in there. But now you got me curious! I got used to the cheaters prices before they folded where a BBBJCIM from Tashsa or Foxy (the stripper not the club LOL) or Cleo (that's going WAY back!) was 100 or less plus the 45 house / entry / godiva fees. How does the situation there at Foxy's compare? Is there enough privacy to get that done during peak hours? Personally I'd rather get blown in a private booth than out in the open, what does that cost, do you know? Thanks.[/QUOTE]Hi all. I went to Zebra a few weeks ago. I never "participate" in any activities at these places, I usually just observe and hang at the stage and my buddy is the one that tends to go to the back room for "extras. " Anyway, This girl approached me. She had an ok face, awesome tight little body and she was engaging as far as conversation goes. She talked me into a dance and then talked me into that back room but gave me two free dances in the open area before going into the back room. She said it would be $100 total for 15 minutes but would throw in the two free dances I just had at no charge. So I say "why not?" She danced and then to my shock started to unzip me. At that point I figured ok, guess I may get a tug? Nope, she started to give me a BBBJ. I was a little tipsy so I said to myself, self, too late to ask for protection at this point, I guess I should let her finish. So she finished and swallowed. Most guys would have loved that, I however was horrified of catching something, especially after seeing her willingness to do anything. So I zipped up and asked if she was clean and she said yes. Said that it was her first day working and she dances at another place usually (I think Cadillac).

So 4 days go by and I start getting some HORRIBLE symptoms down there. After two embarrassing trips to my doctor and two weeks of cipro twice a day, I am back to normal and all tests negative. I am going to get tested again in a few months to make sure I did not catch something more serious. Doctor says very unlikely that I did and no real need to test again but I am a worry wort. Lesson for me here, I will NEVER do anything again without protection. So either she lied to me about being clean or perhaps I am just allergic to dirty skanky hoes. Just wanted to share my experience with the rest of you and to say be careful out there!! My buddy says I am the luckiest guy to get a BBJ and all those dances for $100 and was pissed that he does not get deals like that and was pissed at me for asking her if she was clean because now I may have ruined it for the rest of you. My response to him after this experience was I told him you guys can have it all! I am all set with getting extras at a nudie bar after that experience.

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Saw a KGIRL that offered BBFS and CIP not long ago and now I believe I have the drips. It's my first time getting this after being in this hobby for a few years. Did some research about Azithromycin. Anyone know of a way or place for me to get it cheap? I don't want to have to get a prescription if possible. Any help or advice is much appreciated.

[QUOTE=Hahasupz;2933669]Saw a KGIRL that offered BBFS and CIP not long ago and now I believe I have the drips. It's my first time getting this after being in this hobby for a few years. Did some research about Azithromycin. Anyone know of a way or place for me to get it cheap? I don't want to have to get a prescription if possible. Any help or advice is much appreciated.[/QUOTE]Uhh. We'll help you if you help us. Who in the hell is she?

First can you message me the girl? Hopefully I haven't seen her LOL andi think I have a doctor or a place where you can get it message me.

[QUOTE=Hahasupz;2933669]Saw a KGIRL that offered BBFS and CIP not long ago and now I believe I have the drips. It's my first time getting this after being in this hobby for a few years. Did some research about Azithromycin. Anyone know of a way or place for me to get it cheap? I don't want to have to get a prescription if possible. Any help or advice is much appreciated.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Hahasupz;2933669]Saw a KGIRL that offered BBFS and CIP not long ago and now I believe I have the drips. It's my first time getting this after being in this hobby for a few years. Did some research about Azithromycin. Anyone know of a way or place for me to get it cheap? I don't want to have to get a prescription if possible. Any help or advice is much appreciated.[/QUOTE]For drips treatment you need combination of Azythromycine (orally- usually given at a single large (1 mg= two pills) and Ceftriaxone (comercially known as Rocephin; single injecttion intramuscular in the butt; 250 mg). You need to go to the doctor's office to be treated. Do not mix up or borrow antibiotics on your own as you make make the bacteria to become resistant and complicate the situation.

[QUOTE=Hahasupz;2933669]Saw a KGIRL that offered BBFS and CIP not long ago and now I believe I have the drips. It's my first time getting this after being in this hobby for a few years. Did some research about Azithromycin. Anyone know of a way or place for me to get it cheap? I don't want to have to get a prescription if possible. Any help or advice is much appreciated.[/QUOTE]You can buy it over the counter in Mexico. You may want to take a drive to Tijuana.

[QUOTE=cheapguy;2933806]You can buy it over the counter in Mexico. You may want to take a drive to Tijuana.[/QUOTE]Went to Tijuana recently to purchase the same thing. The "major" farmacia I went to down there wouldn't see it to me without a prescription. Had to ask a local friendly taxi driver if he knew a place that sold without prescription. Took me to some place behind Revolucion and I think I might have gotten sold some bunk, expired meds. Good luck.

[QUOTE=Hahasupz;2933669]Saw a KGIRL that offered BBFS and CIP not long ago and now I believe I have the drips. It's my first time getting this after being in this hobby for a few years. Did some research about Azithromycin. Anyone know of a way or place for me to get it cheap? I don't want to have to get a prescription if possible. Any help or advice is much appreciated.[/QUOTE][URL]http://www.alldaychemist.com/doxrid.html[/URL]

As a public service for the guy below that indicated an issue, here again is the meds for mongers list.

Keeping in mind that my (ex) girlfriend was a porn star, I've learned a lot about STDs. This thread is to discuss STD identification and treatment.

Note: I am not a medical doctor, I am only citing information from the CDC. I do not provide medical advice.

[B]Herpes[/B]: if you are a monger, you have it, though you may not have any symptoms. Symptoms are tiny clear fluid filled blisters go away after a few days. Treatment Is Valtrex which is available as a generic. If you have frequent outbreaks, you can take one Valtrex a day for suppression. Condoms do not adequately protect against herpes.

[B]Hepatitis[/B]: you should be vaccinated for A and B. The vaccination protocol takes 18 months.

[I][b]ANNUAL TESTING[/b]
You should be tested at least annually for syphilis, hepatitis, and HIV. These diseases frequently have no obvious symptoms, and the earlier you get treatment, the better your life will be.
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[B]Things you won't attempt to self treat:
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[B]Syphillis[/B]: requires one or more injections of penicillin. There are some alternate therapies for penicillin allergivpc patients.

[B]Hepatitis C[/B]: apparently there is now a cure, and it is costly: Havroni is $1200 a pill, with one pill a day for 12 weeks.

[B][u]Things you might self treat:

Ureatheral:[/u][/B]

[B]Chlamydia[/B]: Doxycycline works for chlamydia, but you have to take it twice a day for a week. Preferred is Azithromycin as a 1000 mg single dose (you still need to wait a week to have sex to prevent spreading the disease).

[B]Gonorrhea[/B]: Cipro (ciprofloxacin) [I]was[/I] the drug of choice for gonorrhea. But the CDC now recommends an injection of Ceftriaxone. Ciprofloxacin was 500 mg one time dose. (Gonorrhea is very weak). Current guidelines is I'm injection Ceftriaxone and 1000 mg Azithromycin.

Alternate (for gonorrhea self treatment without injection) is Cefixime 400 mg orally in a single dose, plus Azithromycin 1 g orally in a single dose.

The Azithromycin is added to target other UTI that may accompany the clap, including chlamydia.

[B][u]Parasites and Fungal[/u][/B]

[B]Scabies/lice/crabs[/B]: treated with a permethrin cream. 5% for scabies. You can make your own permethrin cream using Martins Permethrin 10% (water based) and mixing 50/50 with a good lotion. Cover entire body up to scalp, avoid eyes and face. Leave on for 14 hours. Wash all bed linen ends in hot water and dry for an hour. Martin's Permethrin 10% is available on Amazon as its a general broad spectrum pesticide.

Ivermectin Is an oral treatment for scabies. 200 micrograms per Kg or body weight (154 lbs would take 18 mg once, mane again in two weeks).

[B]Trichomoniasis[/B] Is treated with an oral dose of Metronidazole 2 g orally in a single dose or Tinidazole 2 g orally in a single dose. It is very important to not drink alcohol for at least 24 hours after these.

[B]Candida (yeast infection)[/B] (unlikely but possible for a male to have it) is treated mainly by an anti fungal cream (monistat). Most treatments for jock itch are also effective against candida. But you'll notice everything that the concentrations in products like monistat are higher than most jock itch creams. For instance Ticonazole 6. 5% for one time application, or Clotrimazole 2% for three day application.

Oral Diflucain (expensive) is also useful for candida. (Fluconazole 150 mg orally in a single dose).

[B][u]Meds for mongers:[/u]
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This is a shopping list for Meds. I have not determined yet if they are all available from a Mexican pharmacy (the main way to get Meds without an Rx).

Oral:

Azithromycin 1000 mg, (UTI's and chlamydia, and a lot of others).

Ciprofloxacin 500 mg OR Cefixime 400 mg (clap. Ciprofloxacin also for some other bacterial infections).

Metronidazole 2 g OR Tinidazole 2 g (Trich).

Fluconazole 150 mg (yeast and systemic fungal infection).

Ivermectin (Two doses of 18 mg for a 154 lb person.) (scabies and some parasites).

Topical ointments / creams:

Ticonazole 6. 5% OR Clotrimazole 2% OR Miconazole 2% (yeast or other fungus like tinea).

Martin's Permethrin 10% mixed 50/50 with lotion to make a 5% mixture. (Scabies and lice).

Other: doxycycline 100 mg twice a day for 7 days for chlymidia and some others is an alternate to Azithromycin. Azithromycin is preferred, but if you find yourself using it often, you should alternate with doxycycline to prevent resistant strains.

For more in depth details, and an easy to use wall chart, see the CDC PAGE:

[URL]http://www.cdc.gov/std/tg2015/default.htm[/URL]

Dose equivalents:

1 g = 1000 mg.

1 mg = 1000 micrograms.

1 Kg = 2. 2 lbs (body weight).

[QUOTE=Larry1023;2933792] You need to go to the doctor's office to be treated. Do not mix up or borrow antibiotics on your own as you make make the bacteria to become resistant and complicate the situation.[/QUOTE]Jeez dude! Anyone self treating an STD is a hazard to themself and the rest of the hobby! Do it wrong and you create a drug resistant strain of whatever that will take Herculean efforts by a team of Docs to get rid of? Plus you may think you have cured it and end up spreading the newly resistant strain to a bunch of girls!

Go find a public health clinic and get tested and treated! Most county Health Departments (HDs) have an STD clinic or can tell you where to find a free one. Many are anonymous! I live in a state that has its head up its azz and to get tested for free one has to show Gov't I'd. No problem, I just drive 15 miles across the state line to the adjacent county's HD for free testing. Shoot years ago the intake girl said the testing was anonymous and winked at me and told me they have a whole file full of Minney Mouses and Donald Ducks! LOL! I made up a monger name and gave a local pub's address to look legit. Gave them my monger phone number too! I took the task of anonymity on myself!. Testing is free. I never had anything, but a buddy told me he tested positive for something and when he came back for results they gave him the shot or pills on the spot to get treated!

Years ago, in another region of the country, the GF I was monogamous with gave me "the clap" (pizzing razor blades). Went to the City's HD and got diagnosed and treated (this was BEFORE AIDS). All of it confidential and low cost or free.

If you can't find a Health Department, go to the Planned Parenthood website and find a clinic near you! Yes, PP does other things than family planning & abortion. Anything done there should be confidential and certainly won't show up on your personal medical record. Might be free or at least low cost!

[URL]https://www.plannedparenthood.org/health-center[/URL]

So, Go find an appropriate testing and treatment. Don't be penny-wise and pound foolish and try to diagnose and treat yourself!

[QUOTE] Do NOT self Treat an STD. Too many confidential options[/QUOTE]Uh, nope. All STDs are reported to the health department per law (except herpes).

"Confidential" is STILL reported to the county health department.

[QUOTE=CreamyBare;2936279]Uh, nope. All STDs are reported to the health department per law (except herpes).

"Confidential" is STILL reported to the county health department.[/QUOTE]Aren't the laws that require reporting STDs to a Health Departments, state-by-state or county-by-county specific? So what if I go into a clinic, give them the name Creamy Bare and get tested? Who cares if they report my results to a health department? How does that effect me? Where is the harm? I think the reporting requirement is more of a measurement of the state of public health or to demonstrate the need for money from the County funds, rather than some nefarious attempt to get in one's business by Gubmint?

The point is that one needs to get tested and treated by professionals, not self medicated. This isn't a cold and improper treatment can have devastating consequences. If one can stand the risk of going for professional treatment they need to factor that into their risk management practices for mongering. If professional treatment is "too risky" then one should be covered 100% of the time for EVERY sex act or just plain avoid the hobby at together.

I hope one isn't saying that because something isn't confidential and it is a valid reason for self medicating for STDs?

Sigh, I'll get off my soapbox now.

[QUOTE=PapaShango;2927029]Reminded me of this.

[URL]https://scroguard.com/[/URL]

Has anyone actually tried it?[/QUOTE]It is supposed to protect you from herpies. It keeps eveything completely covered so there is no skin contact. Funny that no condom manufactuer has not made something to offer more protection like this is supposed to. Seems like they would.

If anyone has tried them it would be good to hear how well it worked, stayed on, how comfortable it was, and how crazy of a look they got from the girl.

I'm walking through the airport last week and see a huge sign that says "Hepatitis C Testing for Anyone Born During 1945-1965: New CDC Recommendations" . WTF! That time period includes me and since I've been sticking my wanker in lots places over the years I better check up on that statement. I wondered what it is about being born between 1945-1965 that makes one more prone to Hep-C.

So, I go to the CDC website and here are the answers:

What is Hep-C and how do you get it: [URL]http://www.cdc.gov/hepatitis/hcv/cfaq.htm[/URL].

Hep-C testing for Anyone born 1945-1965: [URL]http://www.cdc.gov/features/HepatitisCTesting/[/URL].

The Bottom line: 1. Hep-C is spread through sexual contact but the risk of transmission from sexual contact is believed to be low. The risk increases for those who have multiple sex partners, have a sexually transmitted disease, engage in rough sex, or are infected with HIV. More research is needed to better understand how and when Hepatitis C can be spread through sexual contact. , 2. There are high rates of Hepatitis C in people born during 1945-1965. People born during 1945 through 1965 are 5 times more likely than other adults to be infected. In fact, 75% of adults with Hepatitis C were born in these years. The reasons why baby boomers have the highest rates of Hepatitis C are not completely understood.

I don't like No. 2 and, since "he who knows the most controls the situation", I think it's the prudent thing to do to be knowledgeable about the subject.

I don't want to get sick and, I sure as fuck, don't want to give up the women!

This is not a panic call. Just be informed and take care of yourself.

Cum Daddy.

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You can only catch herpes during a outbreak only! If that wasn't case almost the whole world will have it. If you see a chick that have out of the ordinary stuff around anywhere on her body that have mucous membranes by all means cease actvity right now! You can catch herpes on your face I know plenty of white people who have freckles spotted all across their face and coming to find out its heroes. And I know some black people who have big pink bumps on their face and coming to find out its herpes also. Pretty soon almost everyone in the US will have some form of the stuff at least according to statistics.

[QUOTE=AcWorthDude;2940740]It is supposed to protect you from herpies. It keeps eveything completely covered so there is no skin contact. Funny that no condom manufactuer has not made something to offer more protection like this is supposed to. Seems like they would.

If anyone has tried them it would be good to hear how well it worked, stayed on, how comfortable it was, and how crazy of a look they got from the girl.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BigMoney21;2942651]You can only catch herpes during a outbreak only! If that wasn't case almost the whole world will have it. If you see a chick that have out of the ordinary stuff around anywhere on her body that have mucous membranes by all means cease actvity right now! You can catch herpes on your face I know plenty of white people who have freckles spotted all across their face and coming to find out its heroes. And I know some black people who have big pink bumps on their face and coming to find out its herpes also. Pretty soon almost everyone in the US will have some form of the stuff at least according to statistics.[/QUOTE]That is not true. You can catch herpes even when there is not an outbreak or any visible sores. If you don't want to catch herpes: use a rubber and only do sex acts that don't involve ANY skin to skin contact only have sex with girls who have regular std screenings done that test for herpes specifically. If you don't do those things, you will always be at risk to get herpes. Some guys have accepted the risk, some guys have no clue how any of this works.

[QUOTE=Mstekh;2942708]That is not true. You can catch herpes even when there is not an outbreak or any visible sores. If you don't want to catch herpes: use a rubber and only do sex acts that don't involve ANY skin to skin contact only have sex with girls who have regular std screenings done that test for herpes specifically. If you don't do those things, you will always be at risk to get herpes. Some guys have accepted the risk, some guys have no clue how any of this works.[/QUOTE]Yes, you speak the truth brother. Viral shedding can occur whether an outbreak is present or NOT. I did my research on it, any sort of skin to skin contact puts you at risk. Just remember its a skin condition, Some babies even have it on their face and eyes from passing through during birth. Some kids get it from kissing their mothers.

Was reading an article about mariah careys sister who is hiv positive and an ex escort / prostitute and it got me thinking. How many of these girls have the hiv? Over the 17 years iv partaken in the hobby iv probably seen over 100 different girls and I even had a business arrangement with 4 or 5 girls over the years but thankfully iv never been with a girl who iv known had hiv and iv been tested and remain hiv negative despite going bareback with maybe 15 different girls over the years. Sometimes the little head takes over but its never hurt me other than 1 time when I had gonorrhea. Have any of you guys banged a girl you later found out had hiv / aids? How often do you guys get tested? And how many of these girls probably have hiv?

[QUOTE=CosmicKid;2938689]I really wanted DATY, so I go down on her and I have to say this was the most gross stink situation I've run into with a provider! Like totally disgusting smell.[/QUOTE]You mentioned that you are concerned about picking up a bug. The two most common causes of vaginal odor is bacterial vaginosis (not STD) or trichomoniasis (STD). There current are no tests that can reliably check for trich. Only women can be tested. The only way they detect it in men is when you give it to a female and she test positive for it. The good news is that men piss it out in 10-14 days. This is why I always smell it before going BB. If it sinks, I go only BJ or wear a cover.

Gonorrhea, chlamydia, and syphilis do not have vaginal odor associated with it.

BBFS, daty, BBBJ all have risks but may I just say most of us are willing to take that risk. Most are curable, but Just remember herpes is for life. Be safe!

[QUOTE=BenchWarmer;2945765]You mentioned that you are concerned about picking up a bug. The two most common causes of vaginal odor is bacterial vaginosis (not STD) or trichomoniasis (STD). There current are no tests that can reliably check for trich. Only women can be tested. The only way they detect it in men is when you give it to a female and she test positive for it. The good news is that men piss it out in 10-14 days. This is why I always smell it before going BB. If it sinks, I go only BJ or wear a cover.

Gonorrhea, chlamydia, and syphilis do not have vaginal odor associated with it.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=XkeyFan;2945614]Have any of you guys banged a girl you later found out had hiv / aids?[/QUOTE]Do you actually expect anyone to answer that truthfully?

[QUOTE=Bonadrag;2946577]Do you actually expect anyone to answer that truthfully?[/QUOTE]If we are anonymous, which I hope is the case, then honesty should be expected.

[QUOTE=XkeyFan;2945614]Was reading an article about mariah careys sister who is hiv positive and an ex escort / prostitute and it got me thinking. How many of these girls have the hiv? Over the 17 years iv partaken in the hobby iv probably seen over 100 different girls and I even had a business arrangement with 4 or 5 girls over the years but thankfully iv never been with a girl who iv known had hiv and iv been tested and remain hiv negative despite going bareback with maybe 15 different girls over the years. Sometimes the little head takes over but its never hurt me other than 1 time when I had gonorrhea. Have any of you guys banged a girl you later found out had hiv / aids? How often do you guys get tested? And how many of these girls probably have hiv?[/QUOTE]Assume they all are, wear a cover, and then you don't have to worry about it.

[QUOTE=XkeyFan;2945614]Was reading an article about mariah careys sister who is hiv positive and an ex escort / prostitute and it got me thinking. How many of these girls have the hiv? Over the 17 years iv partaken in the hobby iv probably seen over 100 different girls and I even had a business arrangement with 4 or 5 girls over the years but thankfully iv never been with a girl who iv known had hiv and iv been tested and remain hiv negative despite going bareback with maybe 15 different girls over the years. Sometimes the little head takes over but its never hurt me other than 1 time when I had gonorrhea. Have any of you guys banged a girl you later found out had hiv / aids? How often do you guys get tested? And how many of these girls probably have hiv?[/QUOTE]I've seen commentary claiming that over 50% of sex workers in Thailand and Amsterdam are HIV positive. There is no reliable data in the US. A high percentage of sex workers aren't aware of their HIV status.

[QUOTE=ShortIrish;2948797]I've seen commentary claiming that over 50% of sex workers in Thailand and Amsterdam are HIV positive. There is no reliable data in the US. A high percentage of sex workers aren't aware of their HIV status.[/QUOTE]Don't believe everything you read on the internet or mainstream media. I travel to Thailand frequently and know many working girls. I am sure 50% is inflated or years old data. Of course they don't have HIV status tattooed on their forehead so no way I can tell from that.

[QUOTE=BobSteel;2948862]Don't believe everything you read on the internet or mainstream media. I travel to Thailand frequently and know many working girls. I am sure 50% is inflated or years old data. Of course they don't have HIV status tattooed on their forehead so no way I can tell from that.[/QUOTE]Let's be honest, there's risk for doing a prep walk to HIV to STD's in this game. Understanding risk and deciding your level of acceptable risk is paramount. The CDC has interesting stats available about HIV and many other sites confirm them. I'm not going to get into them here, a quick Google search will get you reliable info, especially if you start with the CDC.

[QUOTE=ShortIrish;2948797]I've seen commentary claiming that over 50% of sex workers in Thailand and Amsterdam are HIV positive. There is no reliable data in the US. A high percentage of sex workers aren't aware of their HIV status.[/QUOTE]You just have to look for it. This is from the BBC:

The rate of HIV infections diagnosed in the United States has fallen by a third over the past decade, researchers say.

After examining cases from all 50 states, the study found that the diagnosis rate fell to 16.1 per 100,000 people in 2011 from 24.1 in 2002.

Experts celebrated the findings as a hopeful sign that the Aids epidemic may be slowing in the country.

However, there was a rise in new cases of HIV among gay and bisexual men aged under 24 and over 45.

Just keep your boots on and you won't have to worry too much about HIV.

It's funny how you said that you can catch herpes even without a outbreak. When a relative of mines who has it and before they had a outbreak, we used eat and drink after that person and none of us tested positive for it. And when that relative got tested for herpes that person had it in their system for a while. I know plenty of people who have the virus and I can on with giving you examples and case scenarios but if you have any other means to prove it by all means do so. The only thing I can tell you is that a condom can't protect you from it but it can reduce your chances of catching it during a outbreak only if used and remove properly.

[QUOTE=Mstekh;2942708]That is not true. You can catch herpes even when there is not an outbreak or any visible sores. If you don't want to catch herpes: use a rubber and only do sex acts that don't involve ANY skin to skin contact only have sex with girls who have regular std screenings done that test for herpes specifically. If you don't do those things, you will always be at risk to get herpes. Some guys have accepted the risk, some guys have no clue how any of this works.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BigMoney21;2949608]It's funny how you said that you can catch herpes even without a outbreak. When a relative of mines who has it and before they had a outbreak, we used eat and drink after that person and none of us tested positive for it. And when that relative got tested for herpes that person had it in their system for a while. I know plenty of people who have the virus and I can on with giving you examples and case scenarios but if you have any other means to prove it by all means do so. The only thing I can tell you is that a condom can't protect you from it but it can reduce your chances of catching it during a outbreak only if used and remove properly.[/QUOTE]The HS1&2 virus is not active unless a person is having an outbreak, which is the only time it can be transmitted. A person generally know 2-3 days in advance if that's about to happen because they get a tingling sensation in the area of the outbreak. So if they ignore that fact, then maybe it could be transmitted in that window with out visual symptoms. Some Dr. 's will advise patients to take a low dose (500 mg) of Valtrex daily to prevent outbreaks. What people should be more concerned about is the transmission of Hep-C which is largely transmitted by sexual contact. Hep-C shows no symptoms and can only be detected by blood test.

[QUOTE=Petey1015;2950654]The HS1&2 virus is not active unless a person is having an outbreak, which is the only time it can be transmitted. A person generally know 2-3 days in advance if that's about to happen because they get a tingling sensation in the area of the outbreak. So if they ignore that fact, then maybe it could be transmitted in that window with out visual symptoms. Some Dr. 's will advise patients to take a low dose (500 mg) of Valtrex daily to prevent outbreaks. What people should be more concerned about is the transmission of Hep-C which is largely transmitted by sexual contact. Hep-C shows no symptoms and can only be detected by blood test.[/QUOTE][URL]http://healthland.time.com/2011/04/12/how-many-patients-spread-herpes-but-dont-even-know-they-have-it/[/URL]

Most people who have herpes don't have outbreaks. They can still transmit it. Herpes much more easily spread during an outbreak but can still be spread when a person isn't having an outbreak. This has been known for some time. Please look things up before you spread misinformation. And please lets drop this issue so this thread can get back on the topic of telling people where they can get children swallowed in the VIP room.

[QUOTE=BigMoney21;2949608]It's funny how you said that you can catch herpes even without a outbreak. When a relative of mines who has it and before they had a outbreak, we used eat and drink after that person and none of us tested positive for it. And when that relative got tested for herpes that person had it in their system for a while. I know plenty of people who have the virus and I can on with giving you examples and case scenarios but if you have any other means to prove it by all means do so. The only thing I can tell you is that a condom can't protect you from it but it can reduce your chances of catching it during a outbreak only if used and remove properly.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Petey1015;2950654]The HS1&2 virus is not active unless a person is having an outbreak, which is the only time it can be transmitted. A person generally know 2-3 days in advance if that's about to happen because they get a tingling sensation in the area of the outbreak. So if they ignore that fact, then maybe it could be transmitted in that window with out visual symptoms. Some Dr. 's will advise patients to take a low dose (500 mg) of Valtrex daily to prevent outbreaks. What people should be more concerned about is the transmission of Hep-C which is largely transmitted by sexual contact. Hep-C shows no symptoms and can only be detected by blood test.[/QUOTE]Man, someone gave you dudes some super false information. CDC says that almost 80% of HSV infections actually occur when there are NO symptoms. Does it even make sense that most people would catch genital herpes when they're visible vs when they're not? Nothing in either of these posts is even close to being accurate.

[QUOTE=XkeyFan;2945614]And how many of these girls probably have hiv?[/QUOTE]There are no known statistics for sex workers in the USA: at least not that I have found. (probably the girls in legal brothers in NV are cleaner than the general population) However, just about EVERY state has a Health Department that collects HIV infection information and rates. That information is usually available on the State HD's website as a report. Then those statistics get rolled up by the CDC.

Generally rates of HIV infect for women is less than 2% of the population. So just a random girl selected from the population 98% (or more) would be clean. Often these reports serrate infection in women by race.

But there are other factors that increase the risk. For example a girl that is or was an IV drug user, being in a minority and often lower on the income scale are all factors that "can" suggest an increased risk.

As far as herpes goes, I'd like to see some credible statistics on the rate of transmission with someone who is NOT having an outbreak. The point is that the risk might be quite small. I am sure it is not zero, but also sure it is not 100%. But is Zero risk or even 5% change is too much for you, then monogamy with a clean partner is your answer.

Problem I see is that this topic gets emotional for many pretty rapidly. I like to know the facts and evaluate the risk based on the facts.

[QUOTE=LowKey69;2950922]Man, someone gave you dudes some super false information. CDC says that almost 80% of HSV infections actually occur when there are NO symptoms. Does it even make sense that most people would catch genital herpes when they're visible vs when they're not? Nothing in either of these posts is even close to being accurate.[/QUOTE]OK, that is some pretty strong statements there. Can you back it up with exact language from a CDC report and a link to the report it'self?

[QUOTE=JayPlay42;2898598]Lately its been taking me a long time to nut with condoms.

I used to use Magnum Thins but have found the Trojan Ecstasy feel good.

I've tried Durex and Lifestyles and found them a bit snug.

Any suggestions on the best feeling condoms and where to source?

I once met a provider who came with flavored condoms.

She gave me an incredible CBJ, it almost felt like she was using nothing at all on the CBJ and during FS I had to check to see if it was on it felt so natural.

Don't know what she used and Haven't been able to find another condom to feel the same.[/QUOTE]So After I posted this I got feedback to try condomdepot and try the crown skinless.

I ordered a box of 12 but only got through 2 or 3 of them.

I think I'm a bit above average, I find the Magnum, magmun thins or ecstasy fit me best but These condoms are way too tight for me.

They also arent very lubricated. The first chic I tried them with was reasonably wet to penetrating was no issue but these condoms were choking me down below.

I can say I felt her warmth better with them but eventually I had to pull it off as it was getting uncomfortable for me.

Second time with different chic was very uncomfortable, I tried removing and putting another but still too tight and dry so I gave up on these.

I'm going to try to kimono large next but I wasted money on the crowns. I guess they really are suited for asian guys, LOL.

[QUOTE=JayPlay42;2981137]So After I posted this I got feedback to try condomdepot and try the crown skinless.

I ordered a box of 12 but only got through 2 or 3 of them.

I think I'm a bit above average, I find the Magnum, magmun thins or ecstasy fit me best but These condoms are way too tight for me.

I'm going to try to kimono large next but I wasted money on the crowns. I guess they really are suited for asian guys, LOL.[/QUOTE]The comfort depends on the width at the base. Crown skinless and Kimono large are both 52 mm wide at the base. The regular Kimono thin is also 52 mm at the base. Only the head is wider on the large. Look for something that is 54 or 56 mm wide at the base for latex condoms and more for polyurethane. You can get the stats here:

[URL]http://www.condom-sizes.org/condom-size-chart/condom-size-chart[/URL]

The thinnest condom available is the Unique Pull. It is even thinner than the Japanese ones. Unique is 0.015 mm thick. Sagami Original 0.01 is actually 0.018 mm thick and is made of polyurethane. The width of the Sagami is 55 mm, but this is a material that doesn't stretch, so you need wider. The Unique is 60 mm wide and also doesn't stretch. It is made of polyethylene resin.

[URL]http://www.condom-sizes.org/thinnest-condoms/thinnest-condoms[/URL]

You can buy the Unique Pull here:

[URL]https://luckybloke.com/products/buy-unique-non-latex-condoms-reviews[/URL]

There is more information about the Unique Pull here:

[URL]http://www.condom-sizes.org/condom-brands/unique-pull-condoms-reviewed-thin-condoms-pull-strips-credit-card-package[/URL]

Hi there. I'm still pretty new here. So I'm not sure if this has been covered before. But what would you guys say is the risk with going with BBFS? I know nothing feels like the real thing so we all prefer uncovered. But what's the risk usually involved in this?

[QUOTE=WonderBoy1111;3047348]Hi there. I'm still pretty new here. So I'm not sure if this has been covered before. But what would you guys say is the risk with going with BBFS? I know nothing feels like the real thing so we all prefer uncovered. But what's the risk usually involved in this?[/QUOTE]Risk depends on many things. Each person sees risk differently and has different tolerances for risk, whether rational or irrational. So in the end one has to figure this out for them self.

What "risk" are you concerned about? HIV? Or catching any STD? Pregnancy?

I would suggest reading the thread and see if any of your questions get answered. History usually has a lot to teach, rather than asking for an instant recap.

So do some looking around and evaluating and then ask some more specific questions or give some more specific info as to your situation? Are you proposing to go BB with SWs, AMP girls, CL hook-ups, BP Advertisers, Escorts, drunk girls from a bar, SBs?

As far as I can tell there is nothing out there right now that will kill you, unless untreated. A large majority of STDs can be "cured," the rest managed as "chronic conditions." As far as HIV infection rates go, each State Health Dept should keep statistics and have publicly available information. In general, infection rates for women are 2% or less. That means a random girl has a 98% chance of being clean. But there are many risk factors that can skew that tremendously and knowing those is important imho to evaluating risk.

Oh and I hope you aren't one of these double standard kind of guys? You know the dude stepping out on his SO who catches something and then freaks out because of the "stigma" of catching something suggests her is some how "dirty. ".

So what exactly is your situation and what exactly do you want to know? .

[QUOTE=WonderBoy1111;3047348]Hi there. I'm still pretty new here. So I'm not sure if this has been covered before. But what would you guys say is the risk with going with BBFS? I know nothing feels like the real thing so we all prefer uncovered. But what's the risk usually involved in this?[/QUOTE]Depends who you are messing with and precalence if stds in your part of the country. The heart of Midwest (ie Oklahoma, Indiana, etc) is far safer for things like HIV than say inner city Detroit, NYC, or Baltimore.

No chance I'd EVER bareback a street walker. That's how you end up w / HIV. Barebacking bar sluts or random internet hookups will almost guarantee you the clap at some point, but if you're single so what? Your piss burns for a day or two and then you get a shot in the ass and you're right as rain.

Bottom line. Wear a fucking condom. They work (most of the time) .

[QUOTE=DickWitman;3050011]Depends who you are messing with and precalence if stds in your part of the country. The heart of Midwest (ie Oklahoma, Indiana, etc) is far safer for things like HIV than say inner city Detroit, NYC, or Baltimore.[/QUOTE]Would sure like to see some facts / statistic to back that up! Seems to suggest some biases.

[QUOTE=CephlapodLove;3060604]Yeah, $250 for GFE = girl friend experience! So that means kissing, BBBJ and probably BBFS.

Standard rate is still $160 and is no kissing or lfk, CBJ and cfs.[/QUOTE]I don't think BBFS is safe. Just my opinion.

Do you know their opening hour?