Utr

Thats because for the most part the girls who dont screen have their pimps nearby to bail them out

There are a few girls in the area that are more professional and do screen.

I would definitely recommend it since Orlando is also such a big sting town




[QUOTE=Simply Bly]Greetings Ladies and Gentlemen of Orlando.

I just moved to Orlando from Texas where I provided very low volume gfe/pse under the radar. I am curious to know what type of screening the providers in this area use for safety. In Texas, preferred411.com is probably the most popular screening service, however I also accepted Date Check, Discreet Screening, and RS2000. It perplexes me to see that most of the providers advertisements I have seen do not even MENTION screening whatsoever.

Please let me know the usually screening procedures that you go through before seeing a new provider, and/or the requirements you request from prospective clients prior to setting an appointment.

I respectfully anticipate your responses.

XXXo,

Bly[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=True Critic69]Thats because for the most part the girls who dont screen have their pimps nearby to bail them out

There are a few girls in the area that are more professional and do screen.

I would definitely recommend it since Orlando is also such a big sting town[/QUOTE]

I know many,many girls in O-town who don't screen and have no pimp. They rely on their gut and when they get off the phone after making an appointment if their "little voice in the head" tells them-no good- then when the guy does his direction call back he gets no answer.

The sharp girls know how to "handle" the initial greeting, listen for words that incriminate and handle it or the guy walks.

As to Orlando being "A big sting town" not really, just a normal amount of activity based on politics, complaints and priorities. Currently the emphasis is on violent crimes, armed robbery and gang activities.
When there are "stings" on the street side they are fairly productive,usually a handful of mongers are arrested because they don't know the rules of the game.

On the escort side they usually hunt for the easy targets sort of like hunting on a "game farm". They rent a couple of adjoining rooms in an expensive hotel,then start calling escorts off the various internet sites. Usually targeting traveling girls, girls that are very young,foreign girls, girls that post graphic and profane ad's etc. They are the most easily intimidated. They nail a few get some publicity and go home, all in a days work.
Again the girls who listen to their gut and/or leave when sex acts and money are brought up in conversation are fine. What usually happens is they"need" the money or are offered significantly more money before the guy is "comfortable" for specific acts and "greed" takes over and 5 min. later they are in handcuffs.

Most girls in this area who require a lot of info to verify will starve to death. Personally I had a friend verify me on "Date Check" but frankly no one has every asked me for verification, it's all in the way you handle yourself in the phone conversation and when you get there. If you do the right things,don't ask dumb questions that they can't answer while you are clothed--everyone will be fine and comfortable. The key is simple "take off all your clothes"

From my point of view giving out tons of personal information on the phone or the net or paying by credit card is asking for trouble,girls that advertise that they delete all your info, don't ,why would they? But it all depends on what you have to lose both personally and professionally. Just remember that in the eyes of the law you are committing a criminal act.
There has never been a women that I wanted to see that bad that that I would expose my personal life in such a manner. Just imagine if it was a reverse sting and you were divulging that info to a female LE.
If nothing else I've given you something to think about.

I talk from decades of experience, there are many girls who have operated in this town for 10 yrs. and more because their smart, operate with a system, keep a low profile and don't rub it in LE's face.---VS

[QUOTE=VerySlowly]As to Orlando being "A big sting town" not really, just a normal amount of activity based on politics, complaints and priorities. Currently the emphasis is on violent crimes, armed robbery and gang activities.[/QUOTE]

Didn't think the new Sheriff started until January. Beary and his boys certainly have no interest in catching violent criminals, armed robbers or curtailing gang activity. Curious, what makes you think he does?

[QUOTE=VerySlowly]I know many,many girls in O-town who don't screen and have no pimp. They rely on their gut and when they get off the phone after making an appointment if their "little voice in the head" tells them-no good- then when the guy does his direction call back he gets no answer.

The sharp girls know how to "handle" the initial greeting, listen for words that incriminate and handle it or the guy walks.

As to Orlando being "A big sting town" not really, just a normal amount of activity based on politics, complaints and priorities. Currently the emphasis is on violent crimes, armed robbery and gang activities.
When there are "stings" on the street side they are fairly productive,usually a handful of mongers are arrested because they don't know the rules of the game.

On the escort side they usually hunt for the easy targets sort of like hunting on a "game farm". They rent a couple of adjoining rooms in an expensive hotel,then start calling escorts off the various internet sites. Usually targeting traveling girls, girls that are very young,foreign girls, girls that post graphic and profane ad's etc. They are the most easily intimidated. They nail a few get some publicity and go home, all in a days work.
Again the girls who listen to their gut and/or leave when sex acts and money are brought up in conversation are fine. What usually happens is they"need" the money or are offered significantly more money before the guy is "comfortable" for specific acts and "greed" takes over and 5 min. later they are in handcuffs.

Most girls in this area who require a lot of info to verify will starve to death. Personally I had a friend verify me on "Date Check" but frankly no one has every asked me for verification, it's all in the way you handle yourself in the phone conversation and when you get there. If you do the right things,don't ask dumb questions that they can't answer while you are clothed--everyone will be fine and comfortable. The key is simple "take off all your clothes"

From my point of view giving out tons of personal information on the phone or the net or paying by credit card is asking for trouble,girls that advertise that they delete all your info, don't ,why would they? But it all depends on what you have to lose both personally and professionally. Just remember that in the eyes of the law you are committing a criminal act.
There has never been a women that I wanted to see that bad that that I would expose my personal life in such a manner. Just imagine if it was a reverse sting and you were divulging that info to a female LE.
If nothing else I've given you something to think about.

I talk from decades of experience, there are many girls who have operated in this town for 10 yrs. and more because their smart, operate with a system, keep a low profile and don't rub it in LE's face.---VS[/QUOTE]
Very well said. I read True Critic69 report and did not have time to respond earlier. I too respectfully disagree with True Critic69 on screening clients. I [b]have never [/b] released my information and will never do no matter how I want the girl. There are a lot to consider here;
Would you release your credit card info?
Would you release your personal info?
Would you release your job info?
Would you let the girl verify your work?

Are you sure she will keep these info?
Are you sure that her boyfriend won't blackmail you?

Do you really know that this is a true picture?
Are you sure that the service will be delivered?

That's why the phone call is important. Though me and my dear friend VS disagree on the details of how phone calls should be handled but I do respect his opinion. It [url=http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=698063]was a fruitful discussion[/url].

On the other hand, the majority of the girls know if you hold a good position or have a good job. Also, if you have a family. You would not release these info. These are secret affairs. A professional girl knows that well she respects your privacy as well as you should. She would not lose a nice respectful client because he won't share his private info.
Girls who have been arrested as VS said they were blinded by the money and were under the influence. The stories I heard from them are very obvious to tell this is a sting. The majority of them also were arrested with possession.

[QUOTE=Exec Talent]Didn't think the new Sheriff started until January. Beary and his boys certainly have no interest in catching violent criminals, armed robbers or curtailing gang activity. Curious, what makes you think he does?[/QUOTE]

O.C.S.O. mainly spends it's vice time chasing mongers up and down OBT and harassing SW's.
I was referring to M.B.I. whose priorities change with the hot new topic of the moment. A few years ago they were chasing kids around the raves looking for heroin after 8 kids overdosed +died. Then they chase the college kids looking for extacy and adderall.
They wasted a ton of money trying to "get" Rachaels topless bar and they are still open. Then they went after the Orlando weekly for the escort ad's. They set up stings to get C/L, Eros and back-page girls and they got a few at the Peabody on I-Drive.
There hasn't been much activity in the last few months because it's not the current hot-topic and only a Misdemeanor arrest unless they get a girl carrying dope.
So that is who I was referring to.----VS

P.S. Just check the OCSO site on the net, L/H column under Prostitution, I haven't seen an escort's picture on there in years. If you look you'll see old drug addicts, very young addicted girls and a lot of Johns most are not Caucasian.--VS

[QUOTE=VerySlowly]I know many,many girls in O-town who don't screen and have no pimp. They rely on their gut and when they get off the phone after making an appointment if their "little voice in the head" tells them-no good- then when the guy does his direction call back he gets no answer.

The sharp girls know how to "handle" the initial greeting, listen for words that incriminate and handle it or the guy walks.

As to Orlando being "A big sting town" not really, just a normal amount of activity based on politics, complaints and priorities. Currently the emphasis is on violent crimes, armed robbery and gang activities.
When there are "stings" on the street side they are fairly productive,usually a handful of mongers are arrested because they don't know the rules of the game.

On the escort side they usually hunt for the easy targets sort of like hunting on a "game farm". They rent a couple of adjoining rooms in an expensive hotel,then start calling escorts off the various internet sites. Usually targeting traveling girls, girls that are very young,foreign girls, girls that post graphic and profane ad's etc. They are the most easily intimidated. They nail a few get some publicity and go home, all in a days work.
Again the girls who listen to their gut and/or leave when sex acts and money are brought up in conversation are fine. What usually happens is they"need" the money or are offered significantly more money before the guy is "comfortable" for specific acts and "greed" takes over and 5 min. later they are in handcuffs.

Most girls in this area who require a lot of info to verify will starve to death. Personally I had a friend verify me on "Date Check" but frankly no one has every asked me for verification, it's all in the way you handle yourself in the phone conversation and when you get there. If you do the right things,don't ask dumb questions that they can't answer while you are clothed--everyone will be fine and comfortable. The key is simple "take off all your clothes"

From my point of view giving out tons of personal information on the phone or the net or paying by credit card is asking for trouble,girls that advertise that they delete all your info, don't ,why would they? But it all depends on what you have to lose both personally and professionally. Just remember that in the eyes of the law you are committing a criminal act.
There has never been a women that I wanted to see that bad that that I would expose my personal life in such a manner. Just imagine if it was a reverse sting and you were divulging that info to a female LE.
If nothing else I've given you something to think about.

I talk from decades of experience, there are many girls who have operated in this town for 10 yrs. and more because their smart, operate with a system, keep a low profile and don't rub it in LE's face.---VS[/QUOTE]


I can understand where you are coming from. Maybe its because Orlando is a small town and not that large of a city. I come from NYC and the higher end agencies there wont send a girl without verification. Gut instinct is good but not as fool proof as verifying someone.

I dont care if a girl has my name, number, what does that prove? Wow that we met......how can she blackmail me?

All i have to do is change my number if need be. I have been using services all up & down the east coast and have never had a problem, but like I said the women I vist dont walk the street or have drug problems. They are very discreet, sophisticated and trustworthy.

But I guess to each his own all I know is I dont blame girls for wanting to verifying.....think of it when they go they are literally taking their lives in their hands.

Just my opinion

[QUOTE=True Critic69]I can understand where you are coming from. Maybe its because Orlando is a small town and not that large of a city. I come from NYC and the higher end agencies there wont send a girl without verification. Gut instinct is good but not as fool proof as verifying someone.

I dont care if a girl has my name, number, what does that prove? Wow that we met......how can she blackmail me?

All i have to do is change my number if need be. I have been using services all up & down the east coast and have never had a problem, but like I said the women I vist dont walk the street or have drug problems. They are very discreet, sophisticated and trustworthy.

But I guess to each his own all I know is I dont blame girls for wanting to verifying.....think of it when they go they are literally taking their lives in their hands.

Just my opinion[/QUOTE]

I am from N.Y. as well, my family has an apartment in the village off fifth ave. that they have had for 68 yrs. Rent controlled at 787.00 per month , 3d generation lives there now.So I know whats up in NYC.

NYC has every kind of sex imaginable, agencies, SW, brothels, independents, dungeons, Amp's, living room brothels where all the customers are doing their thing in a large dark room with a dancer in the middle and the music blaring, lap dance places with no bar you just pick a girl and she lap-dances you until you get off. You name it.
I wasn't talking about agencies verifying customers, basically there are no real agencies in Orlando. I was saying that if a girl try's to verify all her calls she will have a hard time making it in Orlando, most guys want immediate gratification they don't want to wait 2-3 days while a provider try's to contact other escorts, calls your work # etc., etc.,. If a girl chooses that route more power to her.

If you don't care about personal info floating around or a cc bill for $300.00 from 'Gloria's Personal Body Care" then you must be single and have nothing to lose. Most guy's I know who play are not willing to take anymore chances than they have to its a big enough risk as it it is.

There are stunning girls right here in O-town like Hanna Banana who rely on their instincts and intellect and do just fine.

There is some mythology about how dangerous escorting is, I have never heard of an escort being hurt in Orlando, I'm sure it has happened but people get mugged in parking lots. So it may be the oldest profession but by far not the most dangerous.

The street girls are another story they get hit, thrown out of cars and trucks and taken out in the woods and raped. Sad but true, unfortunately they have to deal with anybody with enough money to buy their next rock.

Escorts are another story, they are much more in control, if they are smart, they take you in on a double or triple call system, can see you when you get out of your car and can make a final decision whether to see you, there are a number of other safeguards that I won't expose here, but the bottom line is that there are a number of safeguards they can put in place.

My experience with new escorts is that they are surprised at the level of guy's that call, most are normal ,clean guy's that in another situation they would actually date. --most thought they would be suffering through, dirty , grungy losers--not the case at all or very rarely.

I would like for some ladies to comment on this post and tell us your experiences good or bad. Thanks --VS

I believe that developing trusting relationships provides a more quality experience between myself as well as those who I choose to see. When I was providing in Texas, as well as traveling I used a variety of methods not only to screen clients, but as well as to learn a little bit about the gentleman that I was about to see. I would always ask for handles on whatever review boards they were members of (ter, ****, ahc, as well as other regional boards) this helped me see the type of person I was dealing with by seeing the tone of posts and reviews. I feel it is important to try to get to know someone prior to meeting. This can be done as simply as entering a name in Google. In this way, I was sometimes able to see hobbies, charities, and alumni programs a gentleman was involved in which often provided for excellent conversation during our time together. Of course, this was not always the case, which is why I always felt most comfortable when using Preferred411.com, which is a screening service that has been around for many years with a platinum reputation in the industry. When a membership is purchased, p411 does the screening process in a very discreet manner, and in doing so releases me from the liability and time that appropriate screening requires. I encourage all members of the site to get verified. It also compiles a profile of your likes and dislikes, which have always been very useful to me in the past in creating a customized experience that was sure to be enjoyed. Not only that, the preferred411 site also allows other escorts to verify you and created an ideal solution to using references. Using these methods helped me create special relationships and quality experiences for all parties involved.

I also feel that True Critic69 and VS brought up good points respectively. One of the many reasons girls work for high-end agencies (who take a large portion of the profit) is because it is a safety-net of sorts. Conversely, a woman who is struggling day to day, or even minute to minute will lower her prices, standards, and screening criteria to survive.

Personally, I am blessed to be employed full-time in these hard economic times, and not solely relying on providing here as a means to support myself. Because of this, I can assure you that I will not go hungry waiting for my screening requirements to be satisfied. Perhaps I do not require p411 to meet a new friend, however what I do expect is a level of mutual trust to be established before I would ever give my time, or resources.

[QUOTE=True Critic69]I can understand where you are coming from. Maybe its because Orlando is a small town and not that large of a city. I come from NYC and the higher end agencies there won't send a girl without verification. Gut instinct is good but not as fool proof as verifying someone.

I don't care if a girl has my name, number, what does that prove? Wow that we met. How can she blackmail me?

All I have to do is change my number if need be. I have been using services all up & down the east coast and have never had a problem, but like I said the women I vist don't walk the street or have drug problems. They are very discreet, sophisticated and trustworthy.

But I guess to each his own all I know is I don't blame girls for wanting to verifying. Think of it when they go they are literally taking their lives in their hands.

Just my opinion[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=VerySlowly]Escorts are another story, they are much more in control, if they are smart, they take you in on a double or triple call system, can see you when you get out of your car and can make a final decision whether to see you, there are a number of other safeguards that I won't expose here, but the bottom line is that there are a number of safeguards they can put in place.

I would like for some ladies to comment on this post and tell us your experiences good or bad. Thanks --VS[/QUOTE]Double and tripple checked? Really? If I want that, I can go on OKCupid or POF and spend a lot less then $$$! To me it it is about a wet dipstick on the cruise through life not an interview.

Just my $0.02.

With respect to an elder on the board,

Perseus

I received a call from one of my regulars informing me that there was a sting on escorts in Osceola last night with 16 girls arrested. There are mugshots on the corrections dept. arrest report. She recieved a call from one of the arrestees asking her to obtain and deliver drugs. Luckily she did not do so. Evidently le was offering deals to drag down other girls in exchange for favorable treatment. Be careful.

[url]http://www.osceola.org/index.cfm?lsFuses=CorrectionsReports/ArrestReport[/url]

Looks like a couple of CL favorites and newbies are on the list. The one positive for me is that I don't have to wonder if it was a good idea or not, to not see CL Stacy when she was a topic of the board. (Tammy Webb)

[QUOTE=Sikpup]I received a call from one of my regulars informing me that there was a sting on escorts in Osceola last night with 16 girls arrested. There are mugshots on the corrections dept. arrest report. She recieved a call from one of the arrestees asking her to obtain and deliver drugs. Luckily she did not do so. Evidently le was offering deals to drag down other girls in exchange for favorable treatment. Be careful.

[url]http://www.osceola.org/index.cfm?lsFuses=CorrectionsReports/ArrestReport[/url][/QUOTE]Glad I don't monger in Osceola, but damn at least the first 5-6 girls were good looking, they take some pretty good mugshots in that county :P

Years ago I found myself curious as to how the talent is around that side of town but not knowing where to look back then, and reading what I've been reading on this forum, it's just not worth it.

[QUOTE=Sikpup]I received a call from one of my regulars informing me that there was a sting on escorts in Osceola last night with 16 girls arrested. There are mugshots on the corrections dept. arrest report. She recieved a call from one of the arrestees asking her to obtain and deliver drugs. Luckily she did not do so. Evidently le was offering deals to drag down other girls in exchange for favorable treatment. Be careful.

[url]http://www.osceola.org/index.cfm?lsFuses=CorrectionsReports/ArrestReport[/url][/QUOTE]
There's some nice looking ladies in that group. I suspect they were trying to cater to upscale tourists - can't imagine those walking the street.

Yes, she is.

[QUOTE=Prophotog]If I'm not mistaken, isn't this Allyssa from CL? All her ads are down now, so I would think so..[/QUOTE]

[quote]And I honestly tried to help this cu*t get her kids back and get clean & sober.
Duh@myself.[/quote]Never ever, stick your neck out to help a drug addict. Thats what their family is for. If their family won't help there is a reason they won't.

Hope everyone is set to have a wonderful X-mas.

HF

Has your info?

As far as what?

That's why you use your "monger name" and purchase a "monger phone"

I can't see how (or why) a provider would have anything traceable back to you.

You do realize Ashley Shine is another local lady, who was apparently trying to help out a friend? with problems.

Nemo


[QUOTE=Tahleno]Has your info?

As far as what?

That's why you use your "monger name" and purchase a "monger phone"

I can't see how (or why) a provider would have anything traceable back to you.[/QUOTE]

Very well said. Trust is key. And also the quality of the girl. With Orlando being such a tourist hub you do get alot of girls looking to make that quick buck. Even rob a person of their full time.

Happens all the time with these girls upselling, rushing you, or having their pimps barge in. Now I'm NOT saying all the girls in Orlando are like this but plenty are.

This is why I always enjoyed a reputable agency or provider and hardly TOFTT anymore, it was costing to much.

I know what I like and when I find it I stay loyal.

[QUOTE=Simply Bly]I believe that developing trusting relationships provides a more quality experience between myself as well as those who I choose to see. When I was providing in Texas, as well as traveling I used a variety of methods not only to screen clients, but as well as to learn a little bit about the gentleman that I was about to see. I would always ask for handles on whatever review boards they were members of (ter, ****, ahc, as well as other regional boards) this helped me see the type of person I was dealing with by seeing the tone of posts and reviews. I feel it is important to try to get to know someone prior to meeting. This can be done as simply as entering a name in Google. In this way, I was sometimes able to see hobbies, charities, and alumni programs a gentleman was involved in which often provided for excellent conversation during our time together. Of course, this was not always the case, which is why I always felt most comfortable when using Preferred411.com, which is a screening service that has been around for many years with a platinum reputation in the industry. When a membership is purchased, p411 does the screening process in a very discreet manner, and in doing so releases me from the liability and time that appropriate screening requires. I encourage all members of the site to get verified. It also compiles a profile of your likes and dislikes, which have always been very useful to me in the past in creating a customized experience that was sure to be enjoyed. Not only that, the preferred411 site also allows other escorts to verify you and created an ideal solution to using references. Using these methods helped me create special relationships and quality experiences for all parties involved.

I also feel that True Critic69 and VS brought up good points respectively. One of the many reasons girls work for high-end agencies (who take a large portion of the profit) is because it is a safety-net of sorts. Conversely, a woman who is struggling day to day, or even minute to minute will lower her prices, standards, and screening criteria to survive.

Personally, I am blessed to be employed full-time in these hard economic times, and not solely relying on providing here as a means to support myself. Because of this, I can assure you that I will not go hungry waiting for my screening requirements to be satisfied. Perhaps I do not require p411 to meet a new friend, however what I do expect is a level of mutual trust to be established before I would ever give my time, or resources.[/QUOTE]

You are a Senior Member and you have never heard of an escrot being hurt?

WOW Im new to this town and have done a lil research and found plenty that have been hurt.

All Im saying is that for the most part the screening is done to weed out LEOs cause in all honesty.....screening wont tell you if the guy is pyscho or not unless he has a criminal record or something that is easily accsessible....or written up on that site that reviews Hobbyists like TER reviews the providers.

I know a provider who travels worlwide she is gorgeous and loves what she does but she wont see a person who is not willing to be verified, and she doesnt go hungry because she is an excellent provider.

But to end the convo all Im sayin is you can cast my vote for pro-screening

Im sure there will always be providers who dont screen just like there will be those who do.

Whatever floats your boat.

[QUOTE=VerySlowly]I am from N.Y. as well, my family has an apartment in the village off fifth ave. that they have had for 68 yrs. Rent controlled at 787.00 per month , 3d generation lives there now.So I know whats up in NYC.

NYC has every kind of sex imaginable, agencies, SW, brothels, independents, dungeons, Amp's, living room brothels where all the customers are doing their thing in a large dark room with a dancer in the middle and the music blaring, lap dance places with no bar you just pick a girl and she lap-dances you until you get off. You name it.
I wasn't talking about agencies verifying customers, basically there are no real agencies in Orlando. I was saying that if a girl try's to verify all her calls she will have a hard time making it in Orlando, most guys want immediate gratification they don't want to wait 2-3 days while a provider try's to contact other escorts, calls your work # etc., etc.,. If a girl chooses that route more power to her.

If you don't care about personal info floating around or a cc bill for $300.00 from 'Gloria's Personal Body Care" then you must be single and have nothing to lose. Most guy's I know who play are not willing to take anymore chances than they have to its a big enough risk as it it is.

There are stunning girls right here in O-town like Hanna Banana who rely on their instincts and intellect and do just fine.

There is some mythology about how dangerous escorting is, I have never heard of an escort being hurt in Orlando, I'm sure it has happened but people get mugged in parking lots. So it may be the oldest profession but by far not the most dangerous.

The street girls are another story they get hit, thrown out of cars and trucks and taken out in the woods and raped. Sad but true, unfortunately they have to deal with anybody with enough money to buy their next rock.

Escorts are another story, they are much more in control, if they are smart, they take you in on a double or triple call system, can see you when you get out of your car and can make a final decision whether to see you, there are a number of other safeguards that I won't expose here, but the bottom line is that there are a number of safeguards they can put in place.

My experience with new escorts is that they are surprised at the level of guy's that call, most are normal ,clean guy's that in another situation they would actually date. --most thought they would be suffering through, dirty , grungy losers--not the case at all or very rarely.

I would like for some ladies to comment on this post and tell us your experiences good or bad. Thanks --VS[/QUOTE]

VS is a respectable, experienced contributor, verified with credibility senior member. Whether I agree with him or not. I happen to agree with him even at those times he misunderstood me or disagreed on details.
To each his own and everyone has opinions. If you are willing to share your personal informations with someone you have not seen, go ahead.
If providers won't see customers without verification too bad we (at least me) won't see them. No regrets. It's all pink. I have not seen this working girl who I can trust to share my personal information before I even date/meet/see her.
There was a time when some girls (few years ago; the princess and her friends) required a verification from two other providers.
[QUOTE=True Critic69]You are a Senior Member and you have never heard of an escrot being hurt?

WOW Im new to this town and have done a lil research and found plenty that have been hurt.
[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=True Critic69]You are a Senior Member and you have never heard of an escrot being hurt?

WOW Im new to this town and have done a lil research and found plenty that have been hurt. [/QUOTE]No, I have not heard of an escort being hurt, I'm sure it's happened but so have retail clerks gotten raped and murdered on the way to their car at night. So percentage wise I don't think it is an overly dangerous profession, in my post I asked the ladies to speak of their experiences and no one so far has anything to report.

Screening is fine if you want to participate, it is a much more common practice in women charging over $1000 per session. Screening is not common at all either from the agency or the woman in the 200-300 range. All professions have risk and my experience is they have more to fear from their associates and the drugs they take than from us.

Most sharp providers don't have much chance of getting arrested if they follow the rules and don't get intimidated easily.

You "did the research" would you mind sharing it with us?

You just sent me a PM accusing me of being sarcastic in a response to you and yet you opened your original query with "isn't that place dirty and seedy?" Thus questioning my judgement. You made that judgement with no data except you impression upon driving by and perhaps an internet rating, when looking for a place to spend an hour all I want is a clean set of sheets and a clean place to wash up, as far as safety the place is wide open to OBT and the Indian that runs it is always present in the open yard. I consider that a snide remark denigrating my judgement.

I don't think crashing onto a board and putting down people who know this town like the back of their hand is smart but do as you wish but it's not going to get you much help or information.

Your opening line in this post is quite a putdown, maybe someday you'll learn that trying to get yourself up by putting down others does not really work, personally I have no desire to communicate with you so don't PM me anymore.-----VS

Yo everyone,
She is the real deal and worth a visit. Great DT skills and a nice tight youthful body. I will definately repeat.
PHFJ Out!

Has anyone sampled this hot lady? She gets an A++ for number of pictures on her ad

[url]http://orlando.craigslist.org/ers/962455304.html[/url]

Website sexyholly.escort24h.com

I think I'm in love

[QUOTE=PokeHerFaceJon]Yo everyone,

She is the real deal and worth a visit. Great DT skills and a nice tight youthful body. I will definately repeat.

PHFJ Out![/QUOTE]I don't disagree, she has pure white skin and is kinda cute, but trust me she is tough, she let me walk when I thought $100 was too much for 15 min., she wouldn't move an inch not even 5 min. However we left on good terms, I could return, but be prepared her place is in a rundown area up Edgewater dr., the house is filthy and smells badly but she was very clean looking, nice christmas tree though. There was some heavy iron in the driveway, one domestic one import so something is up there. Just be prepared for any eventualities, I'm not sure what I mean by that it's just that the place gave me a bad vibe. PHFJ is an experienced monger and if he says she is OK , I'm sure she is.----VS

*** She did say she would cut me some slack if I became a regular. Reg.=5x, also EVERYTHING IS COVERED, GFE is xtra.***

I had a bad vibe from the picture I felt she is tough. I have not seen her. Thanks VS and there's no doubt about PHFJ.

[QUOTE=VerySlowly]I don't disagree, she has pure white skin and is kinda cute, but trust me she is tough, she let me walk when I thought $100 was too much for 15 min., she wouldn't move an inch not even 5 min. However we left on good terms, I could return, but be prepared her place is in a rundown area up Edgewater dr., the house is filthy and smells badly but she was very clean looking, nice christmas tree though. There was some heavy iron in the driveway, one domestic one import so something is up there. Just be prepared for any eventualities, I'm not sure what I mean by that it's just that the place gave me a bad vibe. PHFJ is an experienced monger and if he says she is OK , I'm sure she is.----VS[/QUOTE]

This is a fine lesson indeed, I've seen Andrea on a few occasions and have never had an issuse bad vibe. Was never asked for anything extra other then what was listed. I do consider myself a regular about 2 times a month. I what had the delightful opportunity to meet the driver of the so called "heavy iron" a low brow choice of words in my oppinion. It is indeed a female "cousin" al though they don't play as such. Indeed yes her carpet is in major need of replacing due to her new puppy that has been mentioned in past post. (yes the one who will take your socks and run outside to toss them around. I logged on to day by chance to post about another encounter I'll catch you guys up on at a later date. I'm not here to dissuade from or campaign for (o. K maybe alittle). What I've learned in the past and its happening here. Is that we can all see the same girl on any given day and all have varied reports of the same girl, and we all need to think the only difference in the situation is "us", same girl same locale difference is you and me brothers. Any of you remember what jaye went thru on her last days. The only problem I have with VS's post is, that you went knowing her rates they've never changed yet you went to "haggle" and when she declined you left on good terms. You got a bad vibe and you're willing to "perhaps" returns. Just seems like a low attempt to stir up dust around a girl who only weeks ago was the hit of the board.

[QUOTE=VerySlowly]I don't disagree, she has pure white skin and is kinda cute, but trust me she is tough, she let me walk when I thought $100 was too much for 15 min., she wouldn't move an inch not even 5 min. However we left on good terms, I could return, but be prepared her place is in a rundown area up Edgewater dr., the house is filthy and smells badly but she was very clean looking, nice christmas tree though. There was some heavy iron in the driveway, one domestic one import so something is up there. Just be prepared for any eventualities, I'm not sure what I mean by that it's just that the place gave me a bad vibe. PHFJ is an experienced monger and if he says she is OK , I'm sure she is.----VS

*** She did say she would cut me some slack if I became a regular. Reg.=5x, also EVERYTHING IS COVERED, GFE is xtra.***[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Nemodc]You do realize Ashley Shine is another local lady, who was apparently trying to help out a friend? With problems.

Nemo[/QUOTE]Actually I think I may have overlooked her name, just looked at her post and was like "wtf kinda info are these mongers giving these chics? "

But even then, maybe it's just me, but even with her being a provider, I still trust no one enough to give them my full info. What for?

You are leaving yourself wide open. No need for them to know anything other than what you tell them.

Just my opinion. I'm not down w/ the screening bs, I prefer to remain anonymous.

[QUOTE=FlingLover]This is a fine lesson indeed, I've seen Andrea on a few occasions and have never had an issuse bad vibe. Was never asked for anything extra other then what was listed. I do consider myself a regular about 2 times a month. I what had the delightful opportunity to meet the driver of the so called "heavy iron" a low brow choice of words in my oppinion. It is indeed a female "cousin" al though they don't play as such. Indeed yes her carpet is in major need of replacing due to her new puppy that has been mentioned in past post. (yes the one who will take your socks and run outside to toss them around. I logged on to day by chance to post about another encounter I'll catch you guys up on at a later date. I'm not here to dissuade from or campaign for (o. K maybe alittle). What I've learned in the past and its happening here. Is that we can all see the same girl on any given day and all have varied reports of the same girl, and we all need to think the only difference in the situation is "us", same girl same locale difference is you and me brothers. Any of you remember what jaye went thru on her last days. The only problem I have with VS's post is, that you went knowing her rates they've never changed yet you went to "haggle" and when she declined you left on good terms. You got a bad vibe and you're willing to "perhaps" returns. Just seems like a low attempt to stir up dust around a girl who only weeks ago was the hit of the board.[/QUOTE]
You've pretty much described my experience with Andrea approximately 6 months ago, when she had just moved there. I must say that I had a similar experience a VS' when I visited Andrea's former partner, Ms Audrey. I was under the impression that she did the 15/100 rate. However, to my dismay, she balked at the sum, which was already on the dresser, mind you. We both put our clothes back on, I took back my donation and I left. I had already seen Andrea, and realized that I had the better of the two.

[QUOTE=Nnms46]You've pretty much described my experience with Andrea approximately 6 months ago, when she had just moved there. I must say that I had a similar experience a VS' when I visited Andrea's former partner, Ms Audrey. I was under the impression that she did the 15/100 rate. However, to my dismay, she balked at the sum, which was already on the dresser, mind you. We both put our clothes back on, I took back my donation and I left. I had already seen Andrea, and realized that I had the better of the two.[/QUOTE]I agree as well. I understand that haggling can be half the fun but Audrey and Andrea are just not into it. Andrea has even posted "Don't haggle" in her ads. At least for me, both girls are nice as can be and will go the extra mile in terms of service and fairness. Andrea has gone above and beyond more than once for me. There is much to be said for getting to know her. The other day I asked her for GFE and she told me I was too fat, can't do anything right, and take out the garbage. Well if that ain't GFE I don't know what is.

[QUOTE=VerySlowly]No, I have not heard of an escort being hurt, I'm sure it's happened but so have retail clerks gotten raped and murdered on the way to their car at night. So percentage wise I don't think it is an overly dangerous profession, in my post I asked the ladies to speak of their experiences and no one so far has anything to report.
..............-----VS[/QUOTE]

Sorry you feel like that. But trust me I am not attacking anyone on here. Im just saying that the views are different thats all.

I in no way meant for you to feel disrespected.....what can I say Im from NYC so I come off a lil rough but VS in no way did I mean for you to feel disrespected.

Lets just saw you & I disagree on the whole screening thing.

But I can see your side of it.....the whole provider blackmailing the client thing......

I guess thats why Orlando doesnt really have a good Agencies here......since LEO shut down Girls Next Door.....if you guys dont like screening, it'll be hard for an agency to set up shop cause they won't have any clients.....lol

This is my take on this whole thing:

Agency = screening
Orlando hobbyists = No Screening

Orlando Agency = No clients, no $$$$ (LoL)

Just my opinion

[QUOTE=FlingLover]This is a fine lesson indeed, I've seen Andrea on a few occasions and have never had an issuse bad vibe. Was never asked for anything extra other then what was listed. I do consider myself a regular about 2 times a month. I what had the delightful opportunity to meet the driver of the so called "heavy iron" a low brow choice of words in my oppinion. It is indeed a female "cousin" al though they don't play as such. Indeed yes her carpet is in major need of replacing due to her new puppy that has been mentioned in past post. (yes the one who will take your socks and run outside to toss them around. I logged on to day by chance to post about another encounter I'll catch you guys up on at a later date. I'm not here to dissuade from or campaign for (o. K maybe alittle). What I've learned in the past and its happening here. Is that we can all see the same girl on any given day and all have varied reports of the same girl, and we all need to think the only difference in the situation is "us", same girl same locale difference is you and me brothers. Any of you remember what jaye went thru on her last days. The only problem I have with VS's post is, that you went knowing her rates they've never changed yet you went to "haggle" and when she declined you left on good terms. You got a bad vibe and you're willing to "perhaps" returns. Just seems like a low attempt to stir up dust around a girl who only weeks ago was the hit of the board.[/QUOTE]

Actually, I intended to stay 30 min. for $130 but when I saw and smelled the place I decided a standing quick BJ was all that was indicated and 100 for 15 min. was too much in my opinion.
I never said I would perhaps return, I said I could return meaning there were no harsh words. actually I would never return, it worked out completely to my liking.
If heavy iron is low brow to you, so be it, I suspect you are an expert on low brow, I doubt you have suntanned nostrils. I think maybe you might want to review your posts before putting them up, the syntax and spelling is well... just dreadful.
Glad you brought up Jaye, this place reminded me of her abode, smelly with animal waste in the air. BTW I wrote about her years ago, she wasn't a bad chick just not to particular about her environment, but she was the cheapest on the board at the time.

I don't have anything against this girl, my bad vibe was because of the Ford Expedition and the Jaguar in the driveway in such a low end neighborhood and a dirty house, that vibrates male drug dealer to me and I don't need it. For the fee's she's charging you can move quite a way up the ladder to a clean provider for a few bucks more.

I call it as I see it and your right depending on how far you've evolved will determine what you see and experience.----VS

[QUOTE=True Critic69]Sorry you feel like that. But trust me I am not attacking anyone on here. Im just saying that the views are different thats all.

I in no way meant for you to feel disrespected.....what can I say Im from NYC so I come off a lil rough but VS in no way did I mean for you to feel disrespected.

Lets just saw you & I disagree on the whole screening thing.

But I can see your side of it.....the whole provider blackmailing the client thing......

I guess thats why Orlando doesnt really have a good Agencies here......since LEO shut down Girls Next Door.....if you guys dont like screening, it'll be hard for an agency to set up shop cause they won't have any clients.....lol

This is my take on this whole thing:

Agency = screening
Orlando hobbyists = No Screening

Orlando Agency = No clients, no $$$$ (LoL)

Just my opinion[/QUOTE]


Years ago before the internet, Orlando decided to eliminate them. (remember Disney is here and holds enormous power) So they went after the yellow pages, the Sentinel, and the telephone company (only one Tel. Co. at that time) and got them to agree that this was a front for prostitution and to discontinue to sell them services.

They also went after the agency's tooth and nail and eventually they all left. After that the only place to find independents was the Orlando post (a penny-saver type throwaway paper)there would be 10-20 girls adv. every week but remember Orlando was much smaller at that time. Trust me it was easier to get a chick in a bar than to get a pro in those days, sometimes you could call every number and not get a response. Now there are zillions and lately they are all answering the phone.

Then the Internet came along and all the rules changed.

I'm not against verification for others, only me, I would never give anyone personal info or C.C. numbers, The girls want to protect themselves and so do I.

I had one Tampa girl recommend "Datecheck" and she recommended me and I signed up with no personal info and that is as far as I would go, but then no one has ever asked. Merry Christmas!----VS

The car she drives is about 10 years old and in bad need of some serious TLC. Tons of body work needed. I would know i've traded to barter my way in on that angle as well LOL no go. (tough) From what she told me she got it for right around $2300. So expensive car in a poor nighborhood? Seriously? Did you notice that 2 houses down from her theres late model E class? The expedition her "female" cousin drives with the blazing rebel flag vanitity that reads "heritage not hate" usually always gets my gangbanger spidey senses tingling. (but in V's defense the huge tire/rim combo threw me at first as well).

The deplorable working/living environment you chanced upon during your brief enocounter, i've never in the 3 or 4 months i've been seeing her had the thought man this is a sty. when i show up shes always dressed very nicely, candles and usually shes playing her favorite anime porn. She has recently incorporated a hot stone massage into her 1 hour sessions. You know V i don't really know what you saw that day because we were there on the same day i do believe. I will pravite messege you the day to comfirm, and possibly put this to rest. But perhaps she went on a cleaning spree after you left who knows. Just seems your gripe turned personal. Wasn't meant to be but sure felt that way.

[QUOTE=VerySlowly]In Her original post on here, she said Incall $100, In most cases this means 1/2 hr. The 15 min. thing for the most part is a recent local development. So when I said is the $100 a half she said no 15 min., 130 half 180 hr. She wouldn't budge and thats allright but to me 15 min. is SW $20-50 stuff. She has since modified her post and if you look you will see the bottom of the post indicates that.

I suppose that you think that my use of the initials BJ are really going to get a chick in trouble in the future, are you so ignorant that you think that a girl who advertises on C/L, BP and here is going to be viewed as a choir girl by LE, give me a break and grow up or go home to mommy.

As far as the other information goes, I haven't been robbed or beaten and I've been doing this longer than you have been alive.
I never said anything about gang bangers but expensive cars in a poor neighbor hood and a dirty house don't add up. And yes I've seen some wonderful girls in poor neighborhood's who were neat and clean. What does she do with her money? Actually I don't care, I'm glad you think she is sweet and like tinkerbell but generally if it quakes like a duck and walks like a duck.........
Some others rave about her, so be it.

I give my impression, like it or not, I've been on the board a long time and many people trust my judgement and conversely I trust a lot of other peoples judgments.
This board is about men seeking sex with women and the sharing of any and all the information MEN want to share in that Quest. I think over my posts before I write them and sometimes I edit them if I think I was too hard. My instincts have served me well in the past and if I'm wrong in this case I would rather be wrong than as you say be "beaten or robbed by gang-bangers" or have it happen to anyone on this board. Remember these are your words I never mentioned GANG-BANGERS or BEATEN or ROBBED.---VS[/QUOTE]

I recently had the opportunity to visit GM and I had a very good time. She is friendly, comfortable and confident, and I enjoyed my time with her. Her regular rates are fine but she gives a good deal to those who frequent these forums.

I would and probably will see her again. PM me if you have any questions.

So what's it going to be then, eh?

Normally your humble droog reserves posting my soviet on the local devotchkas for those deserving a less than flattering critique, as it is only fair, since YMMV and we all have our own tastes.

O my brothers and droogies, let us face it. Shitty service is as shitty service does. As Old Luna cycles, we all have our bad days, and our good. But if the preponderance of evidence is that a provider is not worth the time, let alone the money, is that not good for all of us to know?

That being said, your narrator has had the pleasure of making Goddess Maria's acquaintance. She is a devotchk for whom your time will be more than well spent. As your humble droog prefers encounters of a multiple hour kind, the only thing that has prevented me from seeing her of recent has been my employer’s demands and the cost of Christmas shopping. A situation that will soon be rectified.

Three Part Mickey

[blue]Gentlemen,

The purpose of this Forum is to provide for the exchange of information between Men on the subject of finding Women for Sex.

Let's get back to the subject.

Thank You,

Jackson[/blue]

[QUOTE=Michael Caffey]So what's it going to be then, eh?

Normally your humble droog reserves posting my soviet on the local devotchkas for those deserving a less than flattering critique, as it is only fair, since YMMV and we all have our own tastes.

O my brothers and droogies, let us face it. Shitty service is as shitty service does. As Old Luna cycles, we all have our bad days, and our good. But if the preponderance of evidence is that a provider is not worth the time, let alone the money, is that not good for all of us to know?

That being said, your narrator has had the pleasure of making Goddess Maria's acquaintance. She is a devotchk for whom your time will be more than well spent. As your humble droog prefers encounters of a multiple hour kind, the only thing that has prevented me from seeing her of recent has been my employer’s demands and the cost of Christmas shopping. A situation that will soon be rectified.

Three Part Mickey[/QUOTE]What the hell did that mean?

[QUOTE=Moonlightbiker]What the hell did that mean?[/QUOTE]It means he usually reserves his vocabulary for the ladies who failed to meet his standards, and that Goddess is the exception to that rule. LOL

Thanks Jackson for all the hard work and stepping in.
Happy Holidays to everyone.
[QUOTE=Admin][blue]Gentlemen,

The purpose of this Forum is to provide for the exchange of information between Men on the subject of finding Women for Sex.

Let's get back to the subject.

Thank You,

Jackson[/blue][/QUOTE]

The eminent sexologist Orlando J, Ph. D., assisted by Johnny Cougar, M.D., explains it all:[QUOTE=Orlando J]A provider is a human not only this but nature has programmed the female gender to be selective in choosing a mate. With men, we can shove our cocks in anybody and it feels good from start to finish. With women, the act of intercourse involves the pain/pleasure principle. There is a certain amount of pain a woman experiences (along with the pleasure) when a man inserts his cock in her vagina. Remember John Cougar’s big hit “Hurt so good?” That’s what he was really talking about. The reason nature makes it feel that way for a woman is to make her be selective and careful in deciding which special male she’ll let inside her. A girl can’t trust just “anybody” to know how to deftly handle that pain/pleasure ratio. She has to familiarize herself with the man in order to feel comfortable with her prospective partner.

I am giving examples about myself but I am sure it happened to others.[/QUOTE]Pain/pleasure principle.

Hurt SO good.

Nature MAKES it feel that way in order to make a woman be careful to find someone she can TRUST to "deftly handle" that pain/pleasure ratio.

A woman MUST familiarize herself. She simply must.

A girl can't trust just "anybody," because he might not be DEFT enough.

"A provider is a human not only this," but since they are also of the female gender, nature makes even our favorite sex workers require "deftness" before they decide which SPECIAL male to let inside.

Which when you think about it, that might explain a lot.

Or most likely, NOT.

Clearly, neither LOOKS nor MONEY nor POWER have anything to do with who gets laid in this world. It is ones "deftness" in handling that pain/pleasure principal thingy.

Surely that all rings true, doesn't it?


This is certainly the most thoughtful pile of horseshit I've read in quite some time.

Please, teach me more...

DB

When I was a young boy,
Said put away those young boy ways
Now that im gettin older so much older
I long all those young boy days
With a girl like you
With a girl like you
Lord knows there are things we can do, baby
Just me and you
Come on and make it a

Hurt so good
Come on baby make it hurt so good
Sometimes love dont feel like it should
You make it hurt so good

You dont have to be so excitin
Just tryin to give myself a little bit of fun, yeah
You always look so invitin
You aint as green as you are young
Hey baby its you
Come on girl now its you
Sink your teeth right through my bones, baby
Lets see what we can do
Come on and make it a

Hurt So Good
Come on baby make it hurt so good
Sometimes love dont feel like it should
You make it hurt so good

I aint talkin no big deals
I aint made no plans myself
I aint talkin no high heels
Maybe we could walkin around, all day long,
Walkin around, all day long