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I don't know if it's the same Kimmy but I knew one a number of years ago that was a Hoover. Maybe more like a Kirby. Thin, black hair, sometimes wore glasses. Very gregarious and kind of crazy (the "needs to be in an institution" kind of crazy). She loved getting her kitty licked.

Oralgiver75, do you also remember a Michelle and a Carla (or Karla) from back in the late '90s? Both blonds and in their late 20's to early 30's back then. Decent looking (8s on a 10 scale). Seemed a bit like biker chicks. Neither did anything more serious than booze and pot. Carla (Karla) was (and still is) my absolute favorite. I continue to wonder what happened to them.

I did see another girl from way back then (more like mid '90s) last week. Lisa. Not raunchy ass eater Lisa. This Lisa, back in the day, had medium length black hair and a tight spinner body (white chick). She always wanted too much for a SW. I rarely partook of that. Poor BJ but oh so tight and liked to have her kitty licked.

Her hair is starting to gray now and she has gained a bunch of weight in the ass and thighs. She still wants too much for her services. I offered her transportation and gave her 0.30 for her personal support fund. She thanked me with a bbbj that ended with a hj. It was more for nostalgia than anything and I quickly remembered that her bjs weren't all that good.

As you all (or most of you) already know, my only opportunity to dream is in the morning hours prior to work. With school back in session it is going to be difficult for me to be able to dream and report. I'll have to start much earlier than normal because the ladies are just not out while the kids are waiting at bus stops. I can't justify leaving the house that early very often. I'll report when I can.

For the time being I am saving so that I can dream about a couple of BP girls that have intrigued me. I'll be sure to report after those dreams.

I got a business trip to Grand Rapids for a few days, and I need to stay busy. Where can I find a nice AMP or friendly strip clubs?

Any suggestions?

If you read this forum, you'll get just about all you need to know about AMPs, along with some googling here and there, perhaps. Not much on here about strip clubs and I don't think the scene in GR is very good. Detroit and Flint are better and Lansing isn't too bad, but probably too much of a drive for you.

[QUOTE=Sumfun69]I got a business trip to Grand Rapids for a few days, and I need to stay busy. Where can I find a nice AMP or friendly strip clubs?

Any suggestions?[/QUOTE]

[url]http://grandrapids.backpage.com/AdultJobs/erotic-massage-22/4778081[/url]

I seem to recall that a few months back she posted an ad or two in the escort section of BP but it seems that lately she's "hidden" some of her ads in the adult jobs, bodyrubs and Dom/Fetish section.

I called her yesterday and set up an time for this morning. I called just prior to arriving and asked her if it was a problem that I'm early (10 minutes) No problem. She shares a house with another girl and a young guy who is the home owner. Home is in the Boston Square neighborhood.

She is the girl in the pics at the link above but she looks more like the second and third pic rather than the first one. She's actually prettier in person and if she had done her hair and "put a face on" I think she would look even better than the first pic in the link.

This was to be an hour session for .75 and we went about the usual stuff that consenting adults do. Skills were slightly better than average and she really got into it (some aspects of a woman's arousal cannot be faked).

Session ended up only lasting 40 minutes (with about 10 minutes of talking) but in contrast to the last time that happened to me, this time I did not feel short changed at all.

I will repeat a couple more times because the price is decent and I think this was more of a get to know each other meeting. If things don't continuously improve, then I will move on.

Understandable if you don't want to give full details, but it would be good to know a few things, like:

1) Was there an actual massage, too, and was it good?
2) .75 for an hour is pretty good ... if it was FS ... but "eh" if it was something lesser. By saying "usual stuff that consenting adults do" but also calling it a get-to-know-you session, one kind of wonders whether it was a good deal or just so-so
3) Was there any attempt at upsell or were you led at all to believe that more $$$ would lead to more fun?

Thanks for reply or PM, if you prefer ... but a monger really needs a little more.

Edit: I see in her ad she says "all-inclusive" and no tipping required ... so does that mean it was the full meal deal? Pretty damn good for .75 if so ... but also leaves one wondering what the continuous improvement you hope for implies?

[QUOTE=Sparty0320][url]http://grandrapids.backpage.com/AdultJobs/erotic-massage-22/4778081[/url]
This was to be an hour session for .75 and we went about the usual stuff that consenting adults do. Skills were slightly better than average and she really got into it (some aspects of a woman's arousal cannot be faked).
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I have no problem with details. My last post was quick because I wrote it shortly after arriving at work and had a lot on my plate (I was late into work this morning because I was "at a customer").

First, There was no actual massage. She was interested in what I was into so if I had asked for one, she likely would have given me one. She has another ad in the rubdown section of BP that advertises a bubble bath and massage for 1.2. I may take her up on that sometime. It's been a long time since I had a woman bathe me.

When I asked her what she liked, she told me that she was up for pretty much anything but greek. I can fully understand that and it would not be something i would ask for.

Next, yes it was CFS. There was FK with the occasional DFK, BBBJ, DATY and a bit of Russian. This is what I meant by "usual stuff that consenting adults do".

There was nothing about this appointment that was "mind blowing" but it wasn't a bad appointment. Everything was "comfortable and nice" not mechanical. As for my comment about this being a "get to know you" session, I have had first time sessions with other providers where everything was adequate on the first go but by the second or third session it had been elevated to "ass spanking fun". Sometimes a girl needs a session or two to become really comfortable with a guy and for myself, I sometimes need a session or two to become really comfortable with her.

I don't think that I got less than what I expected (except for the time, which was partially my fault for not saying something or simply continuing with the action) but instead I got something different than I expected. More like a "cuddle up on a chilly day" type of FS. We'll see if this elevates to something more rowdy next time. Personally, I think I got a good deal for 0.75 but I should have finished out the hour. Next time.

No attempt to upsell at all. No discussion regarding additional services or what services would be rendered. No indication that additional donations would lead to more fun. Hell, for all she knew the envelope I set down on her dresser could have been empty or filled with newspaper. She never acknowledged it in any way (I've had other who have excused themselves and taken it into another room to count it. Bad form on their part)

Whenever I see "all inclusive" or words similar to that, I always consider the words to mean a "full meal deal". As for the "continuous improvement" I am hoping for, I guess what I am hoping is that a bit of chemistry develops and things get a bit more intense. It may well be that I simply have to ask for it but it's not in my nature to say "do this" or "do that". I'm trying to break myself of that.

On an additional note, this girl appears to be educated. She does not appear to be doing any drugs as she showed none of the typical signs of drug use (mentally or physically). She seems genuine in her desire to please.

[QUOTE=Sparty0320][url]http://grandrapids.backpage.com/AdultJobs/erotic-massage-22/4778081[/url]

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I met her in person at a party that was sponsored by another board - two of the pics are exactly the same as what she used on the other board. She got off on the wrong foot, right away. She got so shit-faced at the party that it wasn't real. She also had considerable extra pounds on her. I heard from other guys that certain positions were unavailable because of her bad back, despite the fact that she pops vicodins like candy. I'd never see her, even though she's FS.

[QUOTE=Grmojo]I met her in person at a party that was sponsored by another board - two of the pics are exactly the same as what she used on the other board. She got off on the wrong foot, right away. She got so shit-faced at the party that it wasn't real. She also had considerable extra pounds on her. I heard from other guys that certain positions were unavailable because of her bad back, despite the fact that she pops vicodins like candy. I'd never see her, even though she's FS.[/QUOTE]
She even post occasional freebies for rides,lmao. Sad though.

If it's the site I'm thinking of, I'm familiar with their parties from the reading I've done. (Never been to one of their parties).

In any case, I'm wondering how long ago that was. The reason I ask is that while I was researching this girl (yes I try to get as much free background as I can) I found this site;

[url]http://littlehams.xanga.com/[/url]

Apparently a blog she set up about five years ago and quit posting to about two years ago. (she has a my space page to but it is set to private). She writes about a car accident and getting her back fixed. A lot of it sounds like bullshit but if half of what she has posted is true, then she has been an abuser of many different drugs and alcohol. Maybe she still is but she appeared clean and sober to me. I think if anything, she's likely off the drugs but possibly still boozing it up. In any case, I went in knowing that she could be an addict.

As for her weight, I would not describe her as fat but she could stand to lose about 20 pounds. The picture of her squatting is likely recent. Good representation of her weight.

We used 4 different positions (dog, CG, RCG and mish), no issues but maybe other positions are off limits?


[QUOTE=Grmojo]I met her in person at a party that was sponsored by another board - two of the pics are exactly the same as what she used on the other board. She got off on the wrong foot, right away. She got so shit-faced at the party that it wasn't real. She also had considerable extra pounds on her. I heard from other guys that certain positions were unavailable because of her bad back, despite the fact that she pops vicodins like candy. I'd never see her, even though she's FS.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Grmojo] I'd never see her, even though she's FS.[/QUOTE]

Out of curiosity, why would you never see her? Personal preference or is there more to it?

I can't imagine it's drugs and booze because at least half of the internet escorts and all of the SWs are on one or the other or both. As far as looks go, she ain't a knock out but she ain't ugly either. So what is it??

I'm beginning to think that there is a bigger story here. Now I'm wondering if I may be better off not visiting her again.

[QUOTE=Sparty0320]Out of curiosity, why would you never see her? Personal preference or is there more to it?

I can't imagine it's drugs and booze because at least half of the internet escorts and all of the SWs are on one or the other or both. As far as looks go, she ain't a knock out but she ain't ugly either. So what is it??

I'm beginning to think that there is a bigger story here. Now I'm wondering if I may be better off not visiting her again.[/QUOTE]

She has a reputation for bad incall locations and drug use. I was totally turned-off by her personality, when I met her in December of 2008. Also, she was pudgy when I met her - fat, drunk and stupid is no way for her to go through life. lol

[QUOTE=Sparty0320]I have no problem with details. [/QUOTE]

Thanks for all the info ... hope you didn't think I was trying to get you to write a novel, but just wanting to get a better sense if she was a good deal. She indeed sounds like she is. Appreciate it.

If I decide to unretire, I'd definitely see her. I also think, as you are thinking, she's maybe gotten part of her act together and is improved over what other mongers have said from the past.

Yeah I get what you're saying.
I wasn't turned off by her incall. Not the best nieghborhood but far from being "the hood". Hell, I only work a mile away. I generally prefer a house/apartment over a motel room anyway.

As for the rest, I can only vouch for what I observed. No signs of drug use. Might still booze it up but sober this morning. It has been a couple years since you saw her. A lot can change but hey, to each his own.

Not sure of the definition of pudgy. She could stand to lose about 20 lbs but I would rather have that than a rail thin crack addict.


[QUOTE=Grmojo]She has a reputation for bad incall locations and drug use. I was totally turned-off by her personality, when I met her in December of 2008. Also, she was pudgy when I met her - fat, drunk and stupid is no way for her to go through life. lol[/QUOTE]

You're welcome.



[QUOTE=TwistedBrother]Thanks for all the info ... hope you didn't think I was trying to get you to write a novel, but just wanting to get a better sense if she was a good deal. She indeed sounds like she is. Appreciate it.

If I decide to unretire, I'd definitely see her. I also think, as you are thinking, she's maybe gotten part of her act together and is improved over what other mongers have said from the past.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Sparty0320]Yeah I get what you're saying.
I wasn't turned off by her incall. Not the best nieghborhood but far from being "the hood". Hell, I only work a mile away. I generally prefer a house/apartment over a motel room anyway.

As for the rest, I can only vouch for what I observed. No signs of drug use. Might still booze it up but sober this morning. It has been a couple years since you saw her. A lot can change but hey, to each his own.

Not sure of the definition of pudgy. She could stand to lose about 20 lbs but I would rather have that than a rail thin crack addict.[/QUOTE]

If she's only 20 lbs overweight, she has lost some weight. She was about 40-50 pounds overweight when I met her. She also talked way too much, coming off as an idiot with an attitude. I looked up some old emails about her and there was a reference to drug paraphernalia being in plain view at her incall - he wasn't sure if it belonged to her.

Well I have to say she does like to talk but then I have met very few (maybe two) women who don't. She didn't come across as an idiot; just a typical girl giving long winded answers to questions I asked her. It is a "fault" of mine to try to get to know a little bit about a provider. It seems to make them feel more comfortable (maybe a bit appreciated?) on subsequent visits when I ask them about something they told me. It also gives me an opportunity to determine how much BS they fed me. To a point (admittedly on a somewhat superficial level), I do care about what they have to say.

I also make a point of taking a good look around whenever I am in a home/apartment/motel room of a provider. Previously, when I said there were no signs of drug use, I was referring to her own physical appearance and actions and mental acuity. I should have also mentioned that there was no drug or drug paraphernalia to be seen. That doesn't mean there wasn't any but only that I didn't see it. My personal opinion is that if she is still doing any kind of drug, it is alcohol and nothing else.

The excessive talking and attitude you witnessed could have been the result of her being shitfaced at the time. Back in my drinking days I could talk for hours about nothing when I was plastered and not realize that I was annoying the hell out of people.

If she was 40 to 50 lbs overweight, I would have turned around and left. Not because of the weight (a bigger girl doesn't bother me at all, if the weight is carried well) but because she would have misrepresented herself. If you look at the pics in the link I provided in a previous post, the pic of her squatting and the pic of her laying on her back on the floor are accurate representations of her appearance. The only exception would be that her face looks better in person.

Here is what I found interesting. This morning I received an unsolicited email from her. In part it said, "I noticed some of your time wasn't used. I plan to add it on next time, if you want to get together again. I am looking forward to it. Feel free to text me with any questions you may have."

I've gone short on time on occasion with other providers and never received an offer from any of them to tack the unused time on to a subsequent appointment. I will find out in a couple of weeks if she holds to her statement.

Just to be clear, I am not trying to convince you to give her another chance. I wanted to state that for the record because when I read through my post, it kind of sounds that way. All I am doing here is trying to further clarify my observations. I have no doubt that you saw what you saw.


[QUOTE=Grmojo]If she's only 20 lbs overweight, she has lost some weight. She was about 40-50 pounds overweight when I met her. She also talked way too much, coming off as an idiot with an attitude. I looked up some old emails about her and there was a reference to drug paraphernalia being in plain view at her incall - he wasn't sure if it belonged to her.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Sparty0320][url]http://littlehams.xanga.com/[/url]

Apparently a blog she set up about five years ago and quit posting to about two years ago. (she has a my space page to but it is set to private). She writes about a car accident and getting her back fixed. A lot of it sounds like bullshit but if half of what she has posted is true, then she has been an abuser of many different drugs and alcohol.[/QUOTE]Wow. What a picture that blog is. From "the life", whatever she meant by that, with judges and lawyers and doctors who bought her expensive gifts to 75 a pop today. I feel kinda bad for her, but not too bad to take advantage, hehe. Not gonna try to be her boytoy though. They apparently turn to shitheads in short order!

[QUOTE=Loner 59]Wow. What a picture that blog is. From "the life", whatever she meant by that, with judges and lawyers and doctors who bought her expensive gifts to 75 a pop today. I feel kinda bad for her, but not too bad to take advantage, hehe. Not gonna try to be her boytoy though. They apparently turn to shitheads in short order![/QUOTE]

I kind of feel bad for her to but in the end she chose to live in the fast lane. Maybe she's trying to slow it down now. Who knows.

I personally don't see it as taking advantage. She wants to advertise 75 a pop, then so be it. She has the power to get in better shape and up her game to ask for more. Or get out altogether.

No boytoy here either. I cannot afford two steady women in my life. The one I have already works hard at ensuring I don't climb out of middle class. LOL.

I have never met the woman being discussed at the moment, but I have read a few reviews about her on a different site. Some were good, but most of them were either very vague, or just not good at all. I have seen her going by the name of ashlillian before as well. Even though she had several poor reviews I still was willling to give it a shot (the $ was right), but 2 days before I was going to try and schedule she was banned from the board. That increased the risk just a little too much for me. I was never able to find out why she was banned, but when a mod bans you from a board there is a 80% chance that it was for a good reason.

Happy Hunting,

OG75

I will be visiting Allegan, Michigan, near Grand Rapids for buisness Pl gide where can I find Escort girls? Is it legally allowed to invite girl to visit your hotel room in USA

Thanking you in advance

You know there has to be a scene in Allegan with all the meth running in and around that little town but I would venture to guess that it is all in bar pickups and such, there would be no street walking. The nearest place to get escort services would either be in Grand Rapids or Kalamazoo, same goes for strip clubs. Hope you enjoy your trip, but it would be more work to find some fun there than you might imagine.

[QUOTE=Praj4]I will be visiting Allegan, Michigan, near Grand Rapids for buisness Pl gide where can I find Escort girls? Is it legally allowed to invite girl to visit your hotel room in USA

Thanking you in advance[/QUOTE]

Allegan is a small town. You're not likely to have an easy time finding escorts in Allegan. If you're a big spender, you may find women, especially drunk ones, who are looking for a good time. You can invite a girl to your room, as long as you don't offer to pay for sex. Prostitution is only legal in the U.S. in some counties in Nevada, in licensed brothels, and in Rhode Island, from what I've heard.

Little is done about it, if it's discreet, because judges, politicians and wealthy businessmen are busy getting their dicks wet with hookers. Besides, regardless of what anyone says, it's a drain on government resources to do stings. Streetwalkers, on the other hand, are easy targets for vice cops, who often get free nookie for not turning them in. Most cops aren't too interested in busting hookers, unless there are complaints.

Driving south on Division between Burton and 28th about 6:30/7:00 Sunday evening. Didn't hold out much hope since the sidewalks were jampacked with the usual crowd. I hate that, other places I have mongered in the past didn't have so much general population on the stroll, don't feel comfortable picking up a sw in crowds like that.

But saw a wsw walking north between Baylis and Banner. Tight blue jeans, white top, light brown hair, about 5'8" with a rocking body. I looked, she looked back. Turned at the next block to circle back, down the alley and back out to Division about where she was, but she had crossed to the other side just before the mex grocery. She headed straight for the parking lot like she was going shopping. I turned onto Banner at the store, and she never looked as I passed. Figured she either wasn't strolling or was just ignoring me, so went down the street a ways and turned around to head back to Division. Lo and behold, there she was on my side of the street. Pulled to the curb and she walked right up and jumped in. Kind of odd, because it seemed like she was trying to get away from me. She mentioned something about trying to be careful, she didn't want to get busted (me neither). Quite often I get girls who say they thought I was a cop, so that may have been the problem.

Anyhoo, she tells me her name is Kim, what do I want to do. She is quite pretty, cute face, nose a little long but not bad, light brown hair pulled up in a bun. She is 27 years old, says she just recently got here from Chicago. Her mother lives here, so there is a possibility she has been here before. She was obviously wearing a greatly oversized bra, but still looks pretty hot, a 9 or 10 for the street, except for a bad spot between her front teeth. Nice full lips, brown/hazel eyes. When I get a really nice one (and she is) I am willing to pay a higher rate for the opportunity to take her home and take my time with her. I live quite a ways from the stroll, so I tell her the deal: everything, and we take our time. I start at 50, but she doesn't want to go that far (I really live quite far now), she wants at least 80 to take that much time. I agree and tell her I will tip her 20 when we're through if we really take our time, for a total of 100. She agrees and we have a nice conversation on the drive.

She is super friendly and easy to talk to. The extremely normal conversation confirms my instincts (and her assertion) that she is not the average sw. She is very personable and presents herself very well. She would do quite well as an escort.

Finally home, we get comfortable on the couch. Guys, she has a smoking body. Nice skin, super nice breasts, a large B or small C with great nipples that get nice and hard with a little tongue work. Great figure, a little bit of belly but it justs looks sexy on her. I can't say enough about her figure. She has nice legs, and I usually like to get some head time between them, but she was obviously uncomfortable with that, probably because she didn't think she smelled that good. (She did smell strong, but not bad) So she decides to swap my head for hers. Oralgiver75 posted awhile back in General about some girls he used to know and called one "Kimmy the Hoover". I don't know if this is the same Kim, but this girl is certainly no Hoover. A very average, so-so BJ. I couldn't swear in court that she has a tongue. But she sure looks hot doing it.

Eventually we get to the main event. I lay her back and slide into a squeezebox that is every bit as tight as SolMarie, maybe tighter. She says she has two kids, I don't know how the hell they came out of that. Here is where she earns her money, and the reason I am willing to spend more sometimes, because it takes me a long time to get to the point of no return. We switch back and forth between mish and doggy. Doggy was extra good because she looks great like that. Like I say, it takes me a long time and she never rushed me or asked if I was going to cum. She seemed to enjoy it at first, but I usually go so long that the girl is ready to quit way before I am (I know that sounds like BS or bragging, but I really wish it was not that way, because sometimes I can't even get to the finish line). But still, she never asked me to hurry up.

She agrees to give me her number when I get her back to her "friend" who is waiting for her and has her phone. I will definitely see her again and probably pay her even more for an overnight. If you like GFE, Kim is the one for you. She knows this site, and agreed that I could give out her number, so regular contributors can PM me, and also get some info about the "friend" that I don't want to put out here publicly. I'm sure she will go for a lot less, this was just a special circumstance, but it does seem like they all want 40 for all the way these days, anyway.

I have met her in person and she is NOT overweight. In fact, I thought she looked better than her pictures on the board where she was banned. I am not sure why she was banned, but I think it had to do with her anger.

Having said that, she PMed me for an appointment after seeing my thread requesting someone in GR. We set up a two hour apptmnt and I talked with her two hours prior. Unfortunately, I forgot her number, so I went to her door without another call. My mistake but it should have not been a problem. When I got there, she said her "roommate's BF" was there and she had to wait until he left cuz "they don't know what I do." Yeah right. She said call back in a half hour. I did. She said he was still there and didn't know what to tell me. I called back in another half hour as she again told me. Then she didn't know either way but did not cancel the appointment. I should have. When I called back again later to do that, she never again picked up her phone.

BTW, she blamed ME because I didn't call her within a half hour before arriving at her place.

So I was able to set something up with someone else, but it ruined my night...and my perception of her. I truly did want to meet her, but now I would not. I think she is unpredictable.

As for her neighborhood, it was not a problem for me. Again, IMO she looked great and this was in the Fall of 2009.




[QUOTE=Oralgiver75]I have never met the woman being discussed at the moment, but I have read a few reviews about her on a different site. Some were good, but most of them were either very vague, or just not good at all. I have seen her going by the name of ashlillian before as well. Even though she had several poor reviews I still was willling to give it a shot (the $ was right), but 2 days before I was going to try and schedule she was banned from the board. That increased the risk just a little too much for me. I was never able to find out why she was banned, but when a mod bans you from a board there is a 80% chance that it was for a good reason.

Happy Hunting,

OG75[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Fun Knight69]Where is there a good place to look in Allegan?[/QUOTE]

Is there some kind of construction project that's bringing out of state people into Allegan? Otherwise, I can't figure out why anyone would be interested in the town or even the county.

Fun Knight69, my personal opinion is that there is no good place to look in Allegan. You might be able to pick up a local girl in one of the bars in Allegan or maybe in Door or Wayland (if your charming, buy her enough drinks and the local guys aren't looking for a fight). The better chance would be to go to GR or Kzoo to the areas where SWs frequent. Even better yet would be to contact someone from one of the standard websites.

[QUOTE=Fun Knight69]Where is there a good place to look in Allegan?[/QUOTE]
I look in GR, not Allegan.

[QUOTE=Loner 59]Driving south on Division between Burton and 28th about 6:30/7:00 Sunday evening. Didn't hold out much hope since the sidewalks were jampacked with the usual crowd. I hate that, other places I have mongered in the past didn't have so much general population on the stroll, don't feel comfortable picking up a sw in crowds like that.

But saw a wsw walking north between Baylis and Banner. Tight blue jeans, white top, light brown hair, about 5'8" with a rocking body. I looked, she looked back. Turned at the next block to circle back, down the alley and back out to Division about where she was, but she had crossed to the other side just before the mex grocery. She headed straight for the parking lot like she was going shopping. I turned onto Banner at the store, and she never looked as I passed. Figured she either wasn't strolling or was just ignoring me, so went down the street a ways and turned around to head back to Division. Lo and behold, there she was on my side of the street. Pulled to the curb and she walked right up and jumped in. Kind of odd, because it seemed like she was trying to get away from me. She mentioned something about trying to be careful, she didn't want to get busted (me neither). Quite often I get girls who say they thought I was a cop, so that may have been the problem.

Anyhoo, she tells me her name is Kim, what do I want to do. She is quite pretty, cute face, nose a little long but not bad, light brown hair pulled up in a bun. She is 27 years old, says she just recently got here from Chicago. Her mother lives here, so there is a possibility she has been here before. She was obviously wearing a greatly oversized bra, but still looks pretty hot, a 9 or 10 for the street, except for a bad spot between her front teeth. Nice full lips, brown/hazel eyes. When I get a really nice one (and she is) I am willing to pay a higher rate for the opportunity to take her home and take my time with her. I live quite a ways from the stroll, so I tell her the deal: everything, and we take our time. I start at 50, but she doesn't want to go that far (I really live quite far now), she wants at least 80 to take that much time. I agree and tell her I will tip her 20 when we're through if we really take our time, for a total of 100. She agrees and we have a nice conversation on the drive.

She is super friendly and easy to talk to. The extremely normal conversation confirms my instincts (and her assertion) that she is not the average sw. She is very personable and presents herself very well. She would do quite well as an escort.

Finally home, we get comfortable on the couch. Guys, she has a smoking body. Nice skin, super nice breasts, a large B or small C with great nipples that get nice and hard with a little tongue work. Great figure, a little bit of belly but it justs looks sexy on her. I can't say enough about her figure. She has nice legs, and I usually like to get some head time between them, but she was obviously uncomfortable with that, probably because she didn't think she smelled that good. (She did smell strong, but not bad) So she decides to swap my head for hers. Oralgiver75 posted awhile back in General about some girls he used to know and called one "Kimmy the Hoover". I don't know if this is the same Kim, but this girl is certainly no Hoover. A very average, so-so BJ. I couldn't swear in court that she has a tongue. But she sure looks hot doing it.

Eventually we get to the main event. I lay her back and slide into a squeezebox that is every bit as tight as SolMarie, maybe tighter. She says she has two kids, I don't know how the hell they came out of that. Here is where she earns her money, and the reason I am willing to spend more sometimes, because it takes me a long time to get to the point of no return. We switch back and forth between mish and doggy. Doggy was extra good because she looks great like that. Like I say, it takes me a long time and she never rushed me or asked if I was going to cum. She seemed to enjoy it at first, but I usually go so long that the girl is ready to quit way before I am (I know that sounds like BS or bragging, but I really wish it was not that way, because sometimes I can't even get to the finish line). But still, she never asked me to hurry up.

She agrees to give me her number when I get her back to her "friend" who is waiting for her and has her phone. I will definitely see her again and probably pay her even more for an overnight. If you like GFE, Kim is the one for you. She knows this site, and agreed that I could give out her number, so regular contributors can PM me, and also get some info about the "friend" that I don't want to put out here publicly. I'm sure she will go for a lot less, this was just a special circumstance, but it does seem like they all want 40 for all the way these days, anyway.[/QUOTE]
Great report. I wish I had talent to write a report like that. I agree with all that was said about Kim. I met her Friday night she was walking with Joy.
Joy gave her a good report on me and I set up a meeting on Saturday night with Kim. She's everything Loner reported on. I had a great time for 60 which is higher than I normally go but felt like it was worth it. I have digets and hope she doesn't go back to Chicago to see her two boys too soon.
Don

[QUOTE=Sparty0320]Is there some kind of construction project that's bringing out of state people into Allegan? Otherwise, I can't figure out why anyone would be interested in the town or even the county.[/QUOTE]The fair is the only reason I can think of to go there. Don't know when it is though, or if it is already over. The one guy seemed like from out of country though, and I can't imagine that fair being that popular.

[QUOTE=Dongr]Great report. I wish I had talent to write a report like that. I agree with all that was said about Kim. [/QUOTE]Thanks Dongr. I didn't realize it was so long until I actually saw it posted. Guess you could say I am a little enthusiastic about Kim. Wonder if she knows Sol Marie, that's a double team that would probably end up giving me a stroke.

Fat drunk and stupid?

Thats a real douchebag thing to say.

My xanga site that I kept as a 15-18 yr old was comprimised by an ex boyfriend I dumped for the atty. He hacked my site and wrote things like "I like to fuck married men, " "I do cocaine all day everyday, " etc. We went to court for two years, he was jailed for 8 months for the harassment.

I dated a lawyer and worked for him for a year or so. Thats what upset the ex and fueled the BS rumors on his part, and also the fact that I was working at a strip club.

I will willingly take a drug test TODAY to prove I do not use drugs, nor do I drink. I DO NOT use Vicodin. I actually called my mom and we had a good laugh at that. I suffer from Primary Biliary Cirrhosis, which is irritation and swelling (inflammation) of the bile ducts of the liver, which blocks the flow of bile. This obstruction damages liver cells. I CANNOT take any sort of prescription drug or even an aspirin without risking a visit to an ER. I also have Canal Stenosis, Degenerative Disc Disease, Facet Syndrome, and Scoliosis. I spend a significant chunk of the last 5 years fighting for the ability to walk and live a pain free life. The only medication I take is cholestyramine. I have a bad liver. I was hospitalized last week for four days because my kidneys were shutting down- a side effect of PBC. Anybody who is close to me knows just how bad it is. I'm on a waiting list for liver transplant, but then again, so is everyone and their mother. Will likely be critical in another 5 years or so.

I don't think I should have to spell my health issues out to a bunch of strangers who think I am just "fat drunk and stupid. " You know, it is really a testament to your character when you say such things about people when you don't know their situation.

Also, the picture that was painted of my life that was greener on the other side- getting gifts from doctors lawyers, etc. Let me set that straight for you also. My parents took out a second mortgage on one of their homes to help pay for a procedure that allowed me to walk again after 26 weeks. My doctor "donated" 7 weeks of treatment if I would accompany him on a tour of speaking engagements that demonstrated how his machine, the DRX900, worked.

Oh and if you call having your head smashed through a mahogany cupboard when your lawyer boyfriend got drunk, a great life, don't. Living over in those green acres was a hellish nightmare.

Don't say you feel bad for me. I am happy, I may be sick, but aside from that my life is good. I am making a killing while other girls are going up to 20days at a time without even one appointment. You may see my specials for $75, but I also advertise $200/hr on other sites, and everywhere in between. I pay a marketing consultant to take care of most of my advertising on private sites that are untapped, for the most part. I have great friends. I am able to walk today. I get to meet a lot of great people in this business that I genuinely have a great time with and build solid relationships with.

Don't listen to what everyone says. If you think I am fat and ugly, thats okay. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But lets be grown ups and keep those nasty comments to ourselves. Lets be real here guys, truth be told, most SPs wouldn't touch most guys with a ten foot pole if the right amount of money wasn't on the table. You would think that you guys would see my $75 massage and think "wow, a provider with the monger's plight in mind! " But no, instead I am accused of being a drunk/drug addict.

To those who have stuck up for me, thank you. To the guy who directed me to the trash talking on here with the purpose of being able to defend myself, thank you also, and I will definitely be showing you my appreciation when our play date comes up! To everyone with a negative view of me, I am truly sorry you feel that way and I hope that in the future I am able to change that opinion of me.

Thank You for taking the time to read. God Bless.

[QUOTE=Sparty0320]
I have to say also that there is something about a couple of the complaints that seem exaggerated. I can buy that a guy had a bad experience but when a girl is getting a lot of good reviews, I tend to think that overly descriptive complaints have a lot of extra BS in them.

In any case, this all seems to be a case of YMMV[/QUOTE]

I know from experience that posting a bad review or thinking of it, can generate some passionate responses from her. I am guessing that she is pretty good if you get to see her, but yet I have read of some reviews that indicated differently. When I researched her before visiting her, I PMed a couple of the guys who had poor reviews and like you, I figured that they must be somehow different than I. Yet when my appointment fell through, I decided that perhaps I was not.

Most SPs will have good reviews (which certainly can be as contrived as a poor review) and even a bad review or two. The trick is determining how the SP will treat you, and deciding if your money is best spent on her versus another lady.

[QUOTE=Sandy 007]

Also, the picture that was painted of my life that was greener on the other side- getting gifts from doctors lawyers, etc. Let me set that straight for you also.

Don't listen to what everyone says. If you think I am fat and ugly, thats okay. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But lets be grown ups and keep those nasty comments to ourselves. Lets be real here guys, truth be told, most SPs wouldn't touch most guys with a ten foot pole if the right amount of money wasn't on the table. You would think that you guys would see my $75 massage and think "wow, a provider with the monger's plight in mind! " But no, instead I am accused of being a drunk/drug addict.


Thank You for taking the time to read. God Bless.[/QUOTE]I agree. Don't listen to what everyone says. I hope you do understand the purpose of this board, which of course should not be to trash someone. But it IS in large part a vehicle for mongers to make better choices about providers, and that includes the bad along with the good. I do agree that it can go too far at times, but also quite often it is a guy just blowing off steam. Also, most comments on here are obviously meant for fellow mongers, and mostly not EVER intended to be personally harmful to an SP, since we generally don't think of you reading this board.

Most of us out here are NOT doctors and lawyers, and yes, I for one can get a little resentful that they normally get the girls like you. You know, the ones who "wouldn't touch most guys with a ten foot pole if the right amount of money wasn't on the table." How ironic that you would make that statement right after admonishing guys to "be grownups and keep those nasty comments to ourselves." I know you didn't or don't think that is such a nasty comment, because you characterize it as being "real". But would you make that statement to a client's face? There are a lot of potential clients here, who all may realize the truth of that statement, but may not now be inclined to visit you.

I understand hurtful things were said. And I understand my comment about doctors and lawyers and "the life", to 75 a pop, was over the top. But it wasn't meant to be vindictive. It's more of an observation of what this life can do to a girl, and you just happened to be the apparent example of it at the time. I have no excuse for the "I don't feel too sorry to take advantage" comment. But if we are going to be real, then that is often the reality from our end of this deal also.

If you had "the mongers plight in mind", then thank you. That takes a little heat off the 10 foot pole comment. How about this deal: I won't take the ten-foot pole comment as offensive if you accept my apology for the 75 a pop comment. And then maybe we both won't "listen to what everyone says" quite so much.

BTW, I hope your physical condition improves. Good luck.

The fair was last week. While it may not be nationally or internationally known, it probably draws more people than any other fair in Michigan.

Meth county, go figure.

[QUOTE=Loner 59]The fair is the only reason I can think of to go there. Don't know when it is though, or if it is already over. The one guy seemed like from out of country though, and I can't imagine that fair being that popular.[/QUOTE]

So nice point by Sandy 007 and nice counterpoint, so to speak, by you, Loner 59. Hopefully at this point we all understand each other a little better and can help each other out and keep things in balance.

[QUOTE=Loner 59]I agree. Don't listen to what everyone says. I hope you do understand the purpose of this board, which of course should not be to trash someone. But it IS in large part a vehicle for mongers to make better choices about providers, and that includes the bad along with the good. I do agree that it can go too far at times, but also quite often it is a guy just blowing off steam. Also, most comments on here are obviously meant for fellow mongers, and mostly not EVER intended to be personally harmful to an SP, since we generally don't think of you reading this board.

Most of us out here are NOT doctors and lawyers, and yes, I for one can get a little resentful that they normally get the girls like you. You know, the ones who "wouldn't touch most guys with a ten foot pole if the right amount of money wasn't on the table." How ironic that you would make that statement right after admonishing guys to "be grownups and keep those nasty comments to ourselves." I know you didn't or don't think that is such a nasty comment, because you characterize it as being "real". But would you make that statement to a client's face? There are a lot of potential clients here, who all may realize the truth of that statement, but may not now be inclined to visit you.

I understand hurtful things were said. And I understand my comment about doctors and lawyers and "the life", to 75 a pop, was over the top. But it wasn't meant to be vindictive. It's more of an observation of what this life can do to a girl, and you just happened to be the apparent example of it at the time. I have no excuse for the "I don't feel too sorry to take advantage" comment. But if we are going to be real, then that is often the reality from our end of this deal also.

If you had "the mongers plight in mind", then thank you. That takes a little heat off the 10 foot pole comment. How about this deal: I won't take the ten-foot pole comment as offensive if you accept my apology for the 75 a pop comment. And then maybe we both won't "listen to what everyone says" quite so much.

BTW, I hope your physical condition improves. Good luck.[/QUOTE]

I was looking for an older women experience and came across this. It's one of those scams, a computer trying to get you to sign up for a website. Just thought this might help and save someone else some time.

[url]http://grandrapids.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/gorgeous-divorced-mom-blonde-40-looking-to-meet-40/4872539[/url]

I would like to apologize for the 10 foot pole comment. I was hurt by some of the things written about me that were lies and I lashed out at a community of people who have for the most part been gracious to me and allowed me to live the lifestyle I do. For that I apologize. I didn't intend for that comment to come off that way and I would like to apologize.

[QUOTE=Sandy 007]Fat drunk and stupid?

Thats a real douchebag thing to say.

My xanga site that I kept as a 15-18 yr old was comprimised by an ex boyfriend I dumped for the atty. He hacked my site and wrote things like "I like to fuck married men, " "I do cocaine all day everyday, " etc. We went to court for two years, he was jailed for 8 months for the harassment.

I dated a lawyer and worked for him for a year or so. Thats what upset the ex and fueled the BS rumors on his part, and also the fact that I was working at a strip club.

I will willingly take a drug test TODAY to prove I do not use drugs, nor do I drink. I DO NOT use Vicodin. I actually called my mom and we had a good laugh at that. I suffer from Primary Biliary Cirrhosis, which is irritation and swelling (inflammation) of the bile ducts of the liver, which blocks the flow of bile. This obstruction damages liver cells. I CANNOT take any sort of prescription drug or even an aspirin without risking a visit to an ER. I also have Canal Stenosis, Degenerative Disc Disease, Facet Syndrome, and Scoliosis. I spend a significant chunk of the last 5 years fighting for the ability to walk and live a pain free life. The only medication I take is cholestyramine. I have a bad liver. I was hospitalized last week for four days because my kidneys were shutting down- a side effect of PBC. Anybody who is close to me knows just how bad it is. I'm on a waiting list for liver transplant, but then again, so is everyone and their mother. Will likely be critical in another 5 years or so.

I don't think I should have to spell my health issues out to a bunch of strangers who think I am just "fat drunk and stupid. " You know, it is really a testament to your character when you say such things about people when you don't know their situation.

Also, the picture that was painted of my life that was greener on the other side- getting gifts from doctors lawyers, etc. Let me set that straight for you also. My parents took out a second mortgage on one of their homes to help pay for a procedure that allowed me to walk again after 26 weeks. My doctor "donated" 7 weeks of treatment if I would accompany him on a tour of speaking engagements that demonstrated how his machine, the DRX900, worked.

Oh and if you call having your head smashed through a mahogany cupboard when your lawyer boyfriend got drunk, a great life, don't. Living over in those green acres was a hellish nightmare.

Don't say you feel bad for me. I am happy, I may be sick, but aside from that my life is good. I am making a killing while other girls are going up to 20days at a time without even one appointment. You may see my specials for $75, but I also advertise $200/hr on other sites, and everywhere in between. I pay a marketing consultant to take care of most of my advertising on private sites that are untapped, for the most part. I have great friends. I am able to walk today. I get to meet a lot of great people in this business that I genuinely have a great time with and build solid relationships with.

Don't listen to what everyone says. If you think I am fat and ugly, thats okay. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But lets be grown ups and keep those nasty comments to ourselves. Lets be real here guys, truth be told, most SPs wouldn't touch most guys with a ten foot pole if the right amount of money wasn't on the table. You would think that you guys would see my $75 massage and think "wow, a provider with the monger's plight in mind! " But no, instead I am accused of being a drunk/drug addict.

To those who have stuck up for me, thank you. To the guy who directed me to the trash talking on here with the purpose of being able to defend myself, thank you also, and I will definitely be showing you my appreciation when our play date comes up! To everyone with a negative view of me, I am truly sorry you feel that way and I hope that in the future I am able to change that opinion of me.

Thank You for taking the time to read. God Bless.[/QUOTE]Quite a story! Your "doctor" who "donated" 7 weeks of treatment is a chiropractor? Glad he has been able to help you walk again, are you saying you spent 26 weeks in a wheelchair before you began visiting this doctor? I'm surprised with all your back trouble you are still up for some vigorous sexual games. Most people with back trouble as severe as you describe would be a lousy lay.

Thanks ... usually if they request an IM contact by yahoo or AIM, that's a good sign it's a scam. Most real SP's go by phone.

[QUOTE=Rolandwood88]I was looking for an older women experience and came across this. It's one of those scams, a computer trying to get you to sign up for a website. Just thought this might help and save someone else some time.

[url]http://grandrapids.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/gorgeous-divorced-mom-blonde-40-looking-to-meet-40/4872539[/url][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TwistedBrother]Thanks ... usually if they request an IM contact by yahoo or AIM, that's a good sign it's a scam. Most real SP's go by phone.[/QUOTE]You are absolutely right, Brother. There are a few here and there (but not many) who have tried using email or IM to set things up, especially CL girls. But I steer clear of any ad without a phone number. There is actually a recent posting on BP saying "don't email until you are ready for a date". Right, and if she is legit, by the time she even sees your email you've already found someone else.

Pity about the scam though. Whoever that woman is (pics swiped from another SP, obviously) I would pay to do the hell out of her.