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Been messaging this young hottie, thought we were moving in the right direction to meet today.
Then she says she wants me to paypal her first then she'll come right over. Of course, why not! Nothing to worry about right? LOL.
[URL]https://seekingarrangement.com/member/e0adcf7a-5931-4045-8499-161760f9a8ea[/URL]
Looks like the Fun with Monica account is now a completely different person again.
[QUOTE=Waxxon;3838465]Been messaging this young hottie, thought we were moving in the right direction to meet today.
Then she says she wants me to paypal her first then she'll come right over. Of course, why not! Nothing to worry about right? LOL.
[URL]https://seekingarrangement.com/member/e0adcf7a-5931-4045-8499-161760f9a8ea[/URL][/QUOTE]Haha, I was messaging her also and she said she only takes PayPal because she was taken advantage of before. Whatever that means. She says she needs money to help her mom and whatever I want to help out with will be okay.
[QUOTE=KMatthews521;3838467]Looks like the Fun with Monica account is now a completely different person again.[/QUOTE]Good recall by King baby.
I remember messaging this "new" Monica a year or more ago, she was in Chula Vista and wanted me to send her money so she could get a ride over to my place. Never happened.
[QUOTE=OcasianBoy;3838458]Hey guys,
I just joined and have been trying to read and catch up on all the posts. Awesome info guys! So I joined SA and hit up a hot 18 yo blond and she wants me to PayPal her instead of the old fashion way. What do you guys think? I don't like leaving evidence.[/QUOTE]A short version: Never and move on.
[QUOTE=OcasianBoy;3838534]Haha, I was messaging her also and she said she only takes PayPal because she was taken advantage of before. Whatever that means. She says she needs money to help her mom and whatever I want to help out with will be okay.[/QUOTE]Cheekygirl9 took her pics down. This is a classic scam, paypal up front and then what do you think happens next? Ghosts you. She went on and on about how she's never had an arrangement before, then wants paypal first because of past problems, inconsistency in her story there? She literally begs, "just this one time?" After I shut her down, she follows up, how about just half. My response is "half of what?" We never discussed $ yet.
Moral: don't be a fool and believe these lyin little wannabe ho's/ROBs. Sort through the BS and you will find some true gems out there.
Formerly: [URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/c98575b8-93e2-4673-9e2b-ae86f9e3ee9e[/URL].
Currently: [URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/b74444fc-c087-456f-92c5-423467659152[/URL].
Why the change of identity? That's anyone's guess.
When you have a potential new relationship. Do some research on the contact phone number (this might cost $ BTW). At the end of the day you might find a male posing as a female. As a test, set up a meeting a few days ahead and then cancel well before 24 hours of the meeting. If the new relationship gets nasty and starts to insult you. You have probably dodged a bullet. This just happened to me and I'm pleased that I avoided a mess. Good luck out there.
[QUOTE=TennisNut;3839257]Formerly: [URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/c98575b8-93e2-4673-9e2b-ae86f9e3ee9e[/URL].
Currently: [URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/b74444fc-c087-456f-92c5-423467659152[/URL].
Why the change of identity? That's anyone's guess.[/QUOTE]Here's another 2-fer. Have seen this many times, these sb's start up a new profile to make you think they are newbies, nothing like a "fresh new" SB. Or, they are using bulk advertising to increase their chances of landing a daddy
[URL]https://seekingarrangement.com/member/3773904d-6368-4025-aaef-7f365c61e97c[/URL]
[URL]https://seekingarrangement.com/member/ed855a84-01df-5d4a-64d6-3e0500188c09[/URL]
I'm pretty new to this but have been reading up on everyone's comments to figure out the game. Was talking to one girl and while she seemed like she would be fun, she got me up adding for a grand for visit.
[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/c7bf6db3-f0d8-4a09-9c07-a898d03de945[/URL]
[QUOTE=Jaymactx;3840328]I'm pretty new to this but have been reading up on everyone's comments to figure out the game. Was talking to one girl and while she seemed like she would be fun, she got me up adding for a grand for visit.
[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/c7bf6db3-f0d8-4a09-9c07-a898d03de945[/URL][/QUOTE]Wow, that's ridiculous. But if you can afford that and think she's worth it, to each their own. I was hesitant on a hot 19 yo for 3 $ a visit for anything I liked. I got her down from 5 $. For 1 k, there are models that will do whatever you like. At the end, it's your money and what you like. Happy humping.
[QUOTE=OcasianBoy;3840356]Wow, that's ridiculous. But if you can afford that and think she's worth it, to each their own. I was hesitant on a hot 19 yo for 3 $ a visit for anything I liked. I got her down from 5 $. For 1 k, there are models that will do whatever you like. At the end, it's your money and what you like. Happy humping.[/QUOTE]After a lot of texting and teasing last night I got her down to 180 for first visit and that we can discuss allowance after we see how that goes. The girl was sending me pics and playing with herself for 3 hours while we were talking.
[QUOTE=Jaymactx;3840672]After a lot of texting and teasing last night I got her down to 180 for first visit and that we can discuss allowance after we see how that goes. The girl was sending me pics and playing with herself for 3 hours while we were talking.[/QUOTE]From 1 k to 1. 8, you're a true player. Nice work. Tells how it went will ya.
Anybody have a good place that turns a blind eye to short visits.
[URL]https://seekingarrangement.com/member/0ed445fc-ff74-4727-9f68-c8e8c08081b2[/URL]
[URL]https://www.verifiedsexy.com/escort/donna-reed/Phone_619-665-7778/191590/[/URL]
[QUOTE=Jaymactx;3841484]Anybody have a good place that turns a blind eye to short visits.[/QUOTE]You should look at the HotelsByDay app and website. There is a place called the Western Inn, 3889 Arista Street, San Diego, California 92110, I guess that's in Old Town. They will give you a room from 10 am - 3 pm for $55. I've never been there, but I have used HBD in my area, w / a nice hotel.
[QUOTE=OcasianBoy;3840899]From 1 k to 1. 8, you're a true player. Nice work. Tells how it went will ya.[/QUOTE]I been texting with this girl for. The past couple days. Right from the start shw sends me nudes and pussy pics. She agreed to see me at 180 but probably won't pull the trigger. Too many flags, seems like a either a pro or high volume. I will pass.
Gents,
I saw this girl. Fun girl. Straight to the point. Damage 2 benjamins. Doesn't do BJ, everything cover. Has friends.
Senior members can pm for more details.
[URL]https://seekingarrangement.com/member/3be6f04a-44cc-4b87-9f84-7826d65c66a0[/URL]
[QUOTE=Floro1243;3844596]Gents,
I saw this girl. Fun girl. Straight to the point. Damage 2 benjamins. Doesn't do BJ, everything cover. Has friends.
Senior members can pm for more details.
[URL]https://seekingarrangement.com/member/3be6f04a-44cc-4b87-9f84-7826d65c66a0[/URL][/QUOTE]She had reached out to me too, but we never met. She was quoting me more than 2 Bens, so good for you. More like a Semi Pro tho.
[QUOTE=KingBaby;3844896]She had reached out to me too, but we never met. She was quoting me more than 2 Bens, so good for you. More like a Semi Pro tho.[/QUOTE]Look, if you are messaging w / a woman who is agreeing over the internet to sex w / someone she has never met, that is the definition of a pro. The only thing she's not doing is advertising on CL or BP. Oh, wait, those don't exist anymore, that's why she's on SA. Those women need to be reported, b / c if there is a lot of escorting off of SA, it will attract the attention of the judicial system, just like CL and BP did. You can kill the goose that laid the golden egg if we don't police this among SDs. Anytime I get anything like a hint a girl is a pro (even UTR), I report them to SA. There are zillions of ways you can violate their terms of service. Just look on the report form for examples. It doesn't even have to be on the site. They will accept screenshots of texts.
I joined SA originally b / c I wanted to avoid escorts. I get an experience by having an ongoing, exclusive relationship w / my SBs that you can't get anywhere else.
BTW, if you are getting someone to agree electronically to meet at a specific $ figure, that is her top dollar quote. I *never* negotiate sugar on the web, but of course I am maybe going for a different experience than you. There is a wealth of information on all these topics on the Richmond VA sugar thread (and its archive of classics). This one hasn't been that active until recently, I am very glad there is now some mutual SD support from guys who are fishing in the same ocean as I am, but you also shouldn't forget there is a wealth of experience out there that is pertinent.
[QUOTE=FarFarAway;3845473]Look, if you are messaging w / a woman who is agreeing over the internet to sex w / someone she has never met, that is the definition of a pro. The only thing she's not doing is advertising on CL or BP. Oh, wait, those don't exist anymore, that's why she's on SA. Those women need to be reported, b / c if there is a lot of escorting off of SA, it will attract the attention of the judicial system, just like CL and BP did. You can kill the goose that laid the golden egg if we don't police this among SDs. Anytime I get anything like a hint a girl is a pro (even UTR), I report them to SA. There are zillions of ways you can violate their terms of service. Just look on the report form for examples. It doesn't even have to be on the site. They will accept screenshots of texts.
I joined SA originally b / c I wanted to avoid escorts. I get an experience by having an ongoing, exclusive relationship w / my SBs that you can't get anywhere else.
BTW, if you are getting someone to agree electronically to meet at a specific $ figure, that is her top dollar quote. I *never* negotiate sugar on the web, but of course I am maybe going for a different experience than you. There is a wealth of information on all these topics on the Richmond VA sugar thread (and its archive of classics). This one hasn't been that active until recently, I am very glad there is now some mutual SD support from guys who are fishing in the same ocean as I am, but you also shouldn't forget there is a wealth of experience out there that is pertinent.[/QUOTE]Well, true. I have only reported once on SA when a pro sent me message directly. The number of Pros on the site is increasing dramatically, we really police it among SDs.
[QUOTE=FarFarAway;3845473]Look, if you are messaging w / a woman who is agreeing over the internet to sex w / someone she has never met, that is the definition of a pro. The only thing she's not doing is advertising on CL or BP. Oh, wait, those don't exist anymore, that's why she's on SA. Those women need to be reported, b / c if there is a lot of escorting off of SA, it will attract the attention of the judicial system, just like CL and BP did. You can kill the goose that laid the golden egg if we don't police this among SDs. Anytime I get anything like a hint a girl is a pro (even UTR), I report them to SA. There are zillions of ways you can violate their terms of service. Just look on the report form for examples. It doesn't even have to be on the site. They will accept screenshots of texts.
I joined SA originally b / c I wanted to avoid escorts. I get an experience by having an ongoing, exclusive relationship w / my SBs that you can't get anywhere else.
BTW, if you are getting someone to agree electronically to meet at a specific $ figure, that is her top dollar quote. I *never* negotiate sugar on the web, but of course I am maybe going for a different experience than you. There is a wealth of information on all these topics on the Richmond VA sugar thread (and its archive of classics). This one hasn't been that active until recently, I am very glad there is now some mutual SD support from guys who are fishing in the same ocean as I am, but you also shouldn't forget there is a wealth of experience out there that is pertinent.[/QUOTE]I have to disagree with you. A college girl that is down for whatever is not a pro maybe just high volume. And there is also a term "mutually beneficial arrangement" often used in the site. I have never nor will ever report a pro. I will just pass the info through this site.
If like paying girls to watch them eat before even knowing what they are not willing to do, good for you but that doesn't mean the girls that do agree before meeting are pros.
[QUOTE=Floro1243;3848699]I have to disagree with you. A college girl that is down for whatever is not a pro maybe just high volume. And there is also a term "mutually beneficial arrangement" often used in the site. I have never nor will ever report a pro. I will just pass the info through this site.
If like paying girls to watch them eat before even knowing what they are not willing to do, good for you but that doesn't mean the girls that do agree before meeting are pros.[/QUOTE]So, exactly what wealth of experience do you speak from? I am a 2+ year veteran of SA, and have had dozens of SBs from 19 to 40, several 1/3 my age. A high volume girl, even in college, is no sugar baby, she's an escort. Is your definition of pro different? I didn't have an exclusive w / every girl I got off SA, but I did with those I had ongoing arrangements w / - two of many months. I never pay a girl for the M&G or any dates. Allowance is only given after we go to the FC. I *prefer* to provide monthly or bimonthly allowance, and obviously, you don't do that unless you are very sure about someone.
If you like SA as a way to get a different kind of girl than you could find in the 'old' ways, you ought to start reporting the pros. I can promise, if there is infiltration of escorts onto the site, stimulated by the shutdown of BP and CL, the site will start to attract the wrong kind of attention. Take a look at the video the SA owner has posted, and all the comments on it. SA is certainly aware that it is at risk. There is a real Dean of sugaring who has zillions of posts on the Richmond VA thread, JZLizard. You should read what he has to say. He also thinks escorts are the biggest risk to SA, and he said that before BP was killed.
[QUOTE=RWarNmsn69;3835269]The Search Feature y'all are referring to should return to Seeking Arrangement soon. According to their Tech Support Staff, it was removed to improve the search functionality and squash some bugs".
RWARNMSN.
Safe mongering and sugaring![/QUOTE]Thanks for the info, and actually I just saw a message from you on the Richmond forum where you quoted DCOutlaw, nice trick and works great:
"The keyword search feature is gone but you can still perform a keyword search by enetering the following in the URL:
&q=keyword.
For example: if you want to search for keyword of "Dtf" use the following:
[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/s...cation=0&q=dtf[/URL]
You can see other search filters I've used like within 100 miles of Arlington but the keyword search is at the end of the url. Just replace dtf with whatever you want to search for. ".
[QUOTE=FarFarAway;3848992]So, exactly what wealth of experience do you speak from? I am a 2+ year veteran of SA, and have had dozens of SBs from 19 to 40, several 1/3 my age. A high volume girl, even in college, is no sugar baby, she's an escort. Is your definition of pro different? I didn't have an exclusive w / every girl I got off SA, but I did with those I had ongoing arrangements w / - two of many months. I never pay a girl for the M&G or any dates. Allowance is only given after we go to the FC. I *prefer* to provide monthly or bimonthly allowance, and obviously, you don't do that unless you are very sure about someone.
If you like SA as a way to get a different kind of girl than you could find in the 'old' ways, you ought to start reporting the pros. I can promise, if there is infiltration of escorts onto the site, stimulated by the shutdown of BP and CL, the site will start to attract the wrong kind of attention. Take a look at the video the SA owner has posted, and all the comments on it. SA is certainly aware that it is at risk. There is a real Dean of sugaring who has zillions of posts on the Richmond VA thread, JZLizard. You should read what he has to say. He also thinks escorts are the biggest risk to SA, and he said that before BP was killed.[/QUOTE]Everyone is entitled to their own opinions, you have yours and I have mine. I am not here to give you my resume of where or how long have I been doing this nor to start argument due to different point of views. I will tell you that I been doing it for a couple years on different states but I will leave it at that. Have a nice day.
Was wondering what any of your experiences with AFF have been? I just joined for the first time and there seems to be a lot of scams and fake profiles on there. Am I wrong? If you guys have been sucessful on the site what kind of advise would you give? Is there a better site I should use? Thanks.
[QUOTE=GfEnthusiast;3850843]Was wondering what any of your experiences with AFF have been? I just joined for the first time and there seems to be a lot of scams and fake profiles on there. Am I wrong? If you guys have been sucessful on the site what kind of advise would you give? Is there a better site I should use? Thanks.[/QUOTE]I've used AFF for many years. Yes, there are many fake profiles and people who just like to fantasize and never meet. But if you look around you will find people to hook up with. It helps a lot of you can host. I can't so that limits me quite a bit. I have met some couples and single woman so I continue to use the site.
[QUOTE=JohnnyLovesIt;3854434]I've used AFF for many years. Yes, there are many fake profiles and people who just like to fantasize and never meet. But if you look around you will find people to hook up with. It helps a lot of you can host. I can't so that limits me quite a bit. I have met some couples and single woman so I continue to use the site.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info. I haven't had much luck on the site so far but who kniws maybe I get lucky.
Went to SA site, and after entering the address, it pops up but the site address is "[URL]seeking.com[/URL]" not "seekingarrangement" The opening page appears to be the same. I didn't enter my user and PW since maybe the site was hacked?
[QUOTE=Waxxon;3859692]Went to SA site, and after entering the address, it pops up but the site address is "[URL]seeking.com[/URL]" not "seekingarrangement" The opening page appears to be the same. I didn't enter my user and PW since maybe the site was hacked?[/QUOTE]It works fine for me.
[QUOTE=Waxxon;3859692]Went to SA site, and after entering the address, it pops up but the site address is "[URL]seeking.com[/URL]" not "seekingarrangement" The opening page appears to be the same. I didn't enter my user and PW since maybe the site was hacked?[/QUOTE]Same thing here. My password saver app auto fills in my login and it did not this morning. It looks like SA but I'm worried it is not so I did not manually enter log-in. used to be: https://www.seekingarrangement.com/login
Now it's not. Anyone?
[QUOTE=NCRascal;3859839]Same thing here. My password saver app auto fills in my login and it did not this morning. It looks like SA but I'm worried it is not so I did not manually enter log-in. used to be: https://www.seekingarrangement.com/login
Now it's not. Anyone?[/QUOTE]Went ahead and logged in, seems to be ok, has all my messages, contacts etc. Not sure why we're getting diverted to a different address.
[QUOTE=Waxxon;3859904]Went ahead and logged in, seems to be ok, has all my messages, contacts etc. Not sure why we're getting diverted to a different address.[/QUOTE]Did the same and it looks ok. Just strange the address changed.
Hey guys,
I want to contribute to this thread since there hasn't been much reporting here lately. This girl is in the Santee area and dtf with everything fair games except anal for $$ She is on the chunky side so if you're into the spinner, she's not the one for you.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/16882fb0-fe5e-408d-9734-7e34c763cd4a[/URL]
[QUOTE=OcasianBoy;3861951]Hey guys,
I want to contribute to this thread since there hasn't been much reporting here lately. This girl is in the Santee area and dtf with everything fair games except anal for $$ She is on the chunky side so if you're into the spinner, she's not the one for you.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/16882fb0-fe5e-408d-9734-7e34c763cd4a[/URL][/QUOTE]Thanks for sharing. She has a nice face and $200 seems to be the reasonable going rate, so a good find.
I met with this once the other day, does BBBJ, cim and allows bare back after 1st. Visit. Damage 2 benjamins.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/f2f155cb-8be1-52ef-3583-1b780e4250b7[/URL]
This one wants 3 benjamins but I haven't pull trigger yet.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/182e25a5-8ac0-396c-4e64-efab52e01df6[/URL]
Here's a big gps girl in Oceanside. She is pretty open about stuff but wants 1 k ppm or 3 k+ a month depending on how many visits. She looks pretty but I'm not paying that price.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/6034e1cc-c3b1-46e5-b065-134b5b4401ee[/URL]
Anyone try this one? Probably a pro. Seems desperate.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/af6ed174-810e-4dd4-9daa-a9e9ef1837bc[/URL]
So, just about the time of the great pause I met a lady, former runway model and pro beach volleyball MILF with a sad story of drug abuse and incarserattion who needed some financial help. The kicker is, she is gay, hadn't had sex with a man in seven years and I helped her discover something no chick can offer. Only thing was, her skills were not great but she has taken direction and learned to give awesome head, let's me practice all my kinky fetishes, sees me as often as I want and the word "condom" has never been in any discussion. I give her a small allowance and gifts, a couple months paid her methadone bill. It has been good.
Two minor issues. First, she can get clingy. I think she is afraid I will dump her and she will be SOL. Second, I have a couple of times had to tell her to back off on the things she wants.
This is a different world for me. I understand wives and hookers. Even girl friends. This is different. And with a chick I have been able to teach to be an excellent sex partner, I don't want it to go off the rails. So, I come to you guys for some grounding. I welcome any views from any of you. If I am being a total idiot call me out. If I just need some perspective, point me.
Oh, and did I mention she thinks she would like to have a woman friend? She is attracted to very butch girls. Then again, I thought of suggesting some 18 year old butch that might want to play with both of us. OK. A guy can dream, can't he?
Seriously, I welcome comments.
C3.
I don't know what kind of advice you're looking for, but.
[QUOTE=Camera3;3876621]I think she is afraid I will dump her and she will be SOL.[/QUOTE]This is the Holy Grail. If you lose this, she will be gone in a hot second. I am not a devout follower of "the game" or redpill or whatever one calls it, because in my real life I deal in emotionally mature women, but in the young and unstable communities, it applies 100%. Keep this alive at all costs.