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If they want to go farther, the government can requests all internet's providers to block anyone with.
A US IP address to these sites, even for those servers located out of US.
If they do that, the only way to assess these sites is with a VPN proxy. Dammed it is getting worse.
[QUOTE=KingOfFours;3794633]Onebackpage now appears to have joined the list of other losers that took their US escort and dating sections down.[/QUOTE]I guess it is still up, but is going offline frequently.
[QUOTE=Bat21;3794991]If they want to go farther, the government can requests all internet's providers to block anyone with.
A US IP address to these sites, even for those servers located out of US.
If they do that, the only way to assess these sites is with a VPN proxy. Dammed it is getting worse.[/QUOTE]Yeah, you may be able to access the ads and review sites with these tricks, but the point is, the PROVIDERS are not going to bite. They have nowhere to advertise for the exposure they need. So we are going to be stuck with the same old pussies to fuck. At present, it appears that the only useful place to find out about new girls is HERE. Other than that, private email.
With the "minor" review sites that are still up, I've noticed extensive "down for maintence" time lately. This has been occuring here on USA too, and on most of the other sites that are still up. And I see that there is a big alert, above, about the existence of a "secondary communications channel" in case this site goes too. So they are ALL making contingency preparations. Because, except for the recent swallowing up of backpage by the FBI, the other sites took their adult sections down VOLUNTARILY.
I will continue to post my finds here on USA whenever I can. But the handwriting is on the wall, gentleman. Like the websites, we should be carefully making our own contingency plans, too. Which means private communications.
Also keep in mind that this Gespapo bill is NOT law yet. The President has not yet signed it. When it DOES become law, the "down for maintenance" may very well become "down forever". So we have a fairly narrow window till it becomes law. It is my hypothesis that all of this "maintenance" going on is technical preparation so that they can QUICKLY take the websites down and cover tracks, when it becomes law. Because at THAT point, the webmasters do indeed become liable. But we are NOT there yet! (I hope they don't bust me for practicing law without a licence, LOL!
[QUOTE=KingOfFours;3795145]With the "minor" review sites that are still up, I've noticed extensive "down for maintence" time lately. This has been occuring here on USA too, and on most of the other sites that are still up. And I see that there is a big alert, above, about the existence of a "secondary communications channel" in case this site goes too. So they are ALL making contingency preparations. Because, except for the recent swallowing up of backpage by the FBI, the other sites took their adult sections down VOLUNTARILY.
I will continue to post my finds here on USA whenever I can. But the handwriting is on the wall, gentleman. Like the websites, we should be carefully making our own contingency plans, too. Which means private communications.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=KingOfFours;3795159]Also keep in mind that this Gespapo bill is NOT law yet. The President has not yet signed it. When it DOES become law, the "down for maintenance" may very well become "down forever". So we have a fairly narrow window till it becomes law. It is my hypothesis that all of this "maintenance" going on is technical preparation so that they can QUICKLY take the websites down and cover tracks, when it becomes law. Because at THAT point, the webmasters do indeed become liable. But we are NOT there yet! (I hope they don't bust me for practicing law without a licence, LOL![/QUOTE]I have a fear that the president will sign it. He will want to appear tough on prostitution, considering the whole 'Stormy Daniels' scandal.
Anyone want to hazard a guess about whether this will put downward or upward pressure on prices?
OM.
[QUOTE=OxyMoron;3795384]Anyone want to hazard a guess about whether this will put downward or upward pressure on prices?
OM.[/QUOTE]My two cents: for UTRs and more exclusive types I suspect the prices would go up. I just spoke to someone who said that usually when something like this happens she finds herself in greater demand then before. That's what happened when CL stopped advertising escorts and before BP took over. People don't have as many options, and also get a bit more concerned about LE activities, so they become more risk averse and revert to "known commodities".
Many who used to be on BP would probably hit the streets. There I suspect the price would go down. It's also possible that many former BP escorts would join P411 and establish another layer of options there. I doubt if Eros would see much of the difference.
[QUOTE=OxyMoron;3795384]Anyone want to hazard a guess about whether this will put downward or upward pressure on prices?
OM.[/QUOTE]Depends how desperate the girls get.
They will more than likely try to take advantage of the situation right now and raise their prices. If there isn't a BP alternative soon then the pendulum will swing the other way. No matter how good a provider is, they will always need a steady flow of new clients to maintain.
A lot of these girls can't compete with the girls on the high end sites. Theres only a finite amount of mongers paying those prices, and they certainly aren't going to pay those prices for BP level girls.
[QUOTE=TwinSnow99;3795269]I have a fear that the president will sign it. He will want to appear tough on prostitution, considering the whole 'Stormy Daniels' scandal.[/QUOTE]Does not matter if he signs it or not. There are way more than enough votes to override. I think it's really just a technical matter as to when it becomes law. When it does we may or may not be talking here anymore.
[QUOTE=Nrlmus;3795527]My two cents: for UTRs and more exclusive types I suspect the prices would go up. I just spoke to someone who said that usually when something like this happens she finds herself in greater demand then before. That's what happened when CL stopped advertising escorts and before BP took over. People don't have as many options, and also get a bit more concerned about LE activities, so they become more risk averse and revert to "known commodities".
Many who used to be on BP would probably hit the streets. There I suspect the price would go down. It's also possible that many former BP escorts would join P411 and establish another layer of options there. I doubt if Eros would see much of the difference.[/QUOTE]I mainly agree with that. One added note though: Girls who provided shitty service and had to rely primarily on backpage for a steady flow of new clueless suckers will have to drop their rates even if they don't go the street route. Girls who end up advertising on some of the new or previously minor sites which will now fill the void, will be cheaper because they will have to drop their rates after they lose the backpage pipeline of fresh suckers. But they will be just the ones that provide the shittiest service who no one wants to see anyway. : (.
[QUOTE=Nrlmus;3795527]My two cents: for UTRs and more exclusive types I suspect the prices would go up. I just spoke to someone who said that usually when something like this happens she finds herself in greater demand then before. That's what happened when CL stopped advertising escorts and before BP took over. People don't have as many options, and also get a bit more concerned about LE activities, so they become more risk averse and revert to "known commodities".
Many who used to be on BP would probably hit the streets. There I suspect the price would go down. It's also possible that many former BP escorts would join P411 and establish another layer of options there. I doubt if Eros would see much of the difference.[/QUOTE]P411 is chickening out too, just looked into it and they are not accepting new escort profiles from the US.
[QUOTE=InnDeep;3792970][URL]www.AdultWork.com[/URL]
An example of a site in the UK. But there is very little USA girls there. It's up and running. The women need to smarten up and look for alternatives. They relied too much on the BP and CL sites. This is no longer a free country. Before you know it, we'll have to use the dark web to just find a booty call. The days of internet freedom are sadly coming to an end. Hopefully things will soon go forward instead of backwards. But I'm not holding my breath.
P.S. I am still able to access [URL]ListCrawler.com[/URL] aka EscortBabylon on Android. Make contacts and save them before the Feds take that down too.[/QUOTE]All this politics is temporary, but it is very disruptive. The old guys in DC try to score points, but in a long run the new younger generation will not accept any limitations on their freedom of the Internet.
-BH.
[QUOTE=BigHead;3796500]All this politics is temporary, but it is very disruptive. The old guys in DC try to score points, but in a long run the new younger generation will not accept any limitations on their freedom of the Internet.
-BH.[/QUOTE]You mean the younger generation who like "safe spaces", prohibition of "hate speech", and organized shout-downs on campus and banning of political views of that they disagree with or otherwise consider "inappropriate for the communty"? THAT younger generation?! Don't hold your breath!!
[QUOTE=KingOfFours;3796532]You mean the younger generation who like "safe spaces", prohibition of "hate speech", and organized shout-downs on campus and banning of political views of that they disagree with or otherwise consider "inappropriate for the communty"? THAT younger generation?! Don't hold your breath!![/QUOTE]100% agree. I think in some ways all this is a reflection of new winds blowing from the up and coming generation.
I don't think America could ever be a communist country because that would involve abolition of private property which I think (ellipsis) I don't see happening, but the tyranny based on safety concerns and moral values of some people that are presented as "our values" and/or our safety"? I can see that. I worked in Law Enforcement settings for 15 years and one thing I learned there is that the US legal system and constitutionality of this and that can be quite flexible, that for every law there seem to be a waver or an exception or whatever else, and constitutionality of anything is a rather vague matter too. What I'm trying to say that from "rule of law" to "free for all" is not as far as we might believe.
It seems we are back, gentlemen! Hurray! Way to go, A2!
What bareback pussy do you have southern New England gentlemen?! It's been a while!
[QUOTE=Dwyck;3699658]Wondering if anyone has gotten Layla bare lately. I have seen her 5 times now, and no luck. I like fucking her though so keep going back.
This is the Layla I refer to:
[URL]http://boston.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/774-360-4514/53388427[/URL][/QUOTE]Well, the good news for me, is I finally got her going BBFS, no CIP though. The bad news for everyone else is she has stopped advertising and taking new clients, at least that is what she tells me.
If any of you know her, she is the one in Randolph.
Funny, now that I am getting her raw, I am gettting bored.
First, glad we are back. Ty Admin.
So I had a romp a while ago with Wakefield Kim we're I was a bit tipsy? She did not ask and I bdid not ask and bb cip happened, no questions before or after. 80 to 100 gets it done. Since that time it is up to me on cover. She just goes with it. I do not recommend prr negotiation, it's there. Hope this helps either way on what you are looking gor.
[QUOTE=Enjoy65;3798590]First, glad we are back. Ty Admin.
So I had a romp a while ago with Wakefield Kim we're I was a bit tipsy? She did not ask and I bdid not ask and bb cip happened, no questions before or after. 80 to 100 gets it done. Since that time it is up to me on cover. She just goes with it. I do not recommend prr negotiation, it's there. Hope this helps either way on what you are looking gor.[/QUOTE]Got a link?
[QUOTE=Dwyck;3798696]Got a link?[/QUOTE]Hi, I don't have link. I had met her from CLCE and that is gone. I do have a phone number. Can share if you are capable of hosting.
All 3 holes were open for sperm and then some. Probably my best of 2017. Its been close to a year now since she disappeared. I was wondering if anyone ever made contact with her again?
Just happened to see her ad on listcrawler. Called and had a "dream" with her. 50 more Greek and 50 more bare over the standard donations for a dream for me of BB Anal with a very encouraged CIA. Nice setting, very friendly and GFE, and a cream filling for her butthole. I left smiling and excited to return.
[QUOTE=BonerX2;3610146]That's her![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Squints1880;3805368]Just happened to see her ad on listcrawler. Called and had a "dream" with her. 50 more Greek and 50 more bare over the standard donations for a dream for me of BB Anal with a very encouraged CIA. Nice setting, very friendly and GFE, and a cream filling for her butthole. I left smiling and excited to return.[/QUOTE]What were the TOTAL damages, please, and do you have a working link or some other current contact info?
But total 180 for 20 minutes and.
[URL]https://backpage.com.boston.listcrawler.com/post/26506368/[/URL]
[QUOTE=KingOfFours;3805708]What were the TOTAL damages, please, and do you have a working link or some other current contact info?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=KingOfFours;3804826]All 3 holes were open for sperm and then some. Probably my best of 2017. Its been close to a year now since she disappeared. I was wondering if anyone ever made contact with her again?[/QUOTE]Sending you a PM.
How do you get that to work.
[QUOTE=Peterboris;3806367]How do you get that to work.[/QUOTE]Seems like works w iPhone, but not w ipad. Confusing.
[QUOTE=Squints1880;3806133]But total 180 for 20 minutes and.
[URL]https://backpage.com.boston.listcrawler.com/post/26506368/[/URL][/QUOTE]I don't understand--that listcrawler / babylon site has been blocked in the USA for weeks now. How are you accessing that?
[QUOTE=EugeneWest;3806437]Seems like works w iPhone, but not w ipad. Confusing.[/QUOTE]It USED to work on my iphone but that has now been blocked, too.
[QUOTE=KingOfFours;3806515]It USED to work on my iphone but that has now been blocked, too.[/QUOTE]If you are using an iPad and getting Baby Lon to work, what browser? Because it does NOT work in Safari on either my iphone or Mac laptop.
[QUOTE=Dwyck;3768672]Anyone seen her lately? Said she is willing for BBFS with cream pie and she is real close to me just haven't had a time that works.
Wondering if she is worth it.[/QUOTE]Can someone please PM me her info? She's close by.
[QUOTE=KingOfFours;3806521]If you are using an iPad and getting Baby Lon to work, what browser? Because it does NOT work in Safari on either my iphone or Mac laptop.[/QUOTE]Try Google. I have an Android phone and can access it with a Google search.
It worked today for the first time for a month or so on my iPhone. Prior to today my experience had been the same as yours.
[QUOTE=KingOfFours;3806515]It USED to work on my iphone but that has now been blocked, too.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=KingOfFours;3806514]I don't understand--that listcrawler / babylon site has been blocked in the USA for weeks now. How are you accessing that?[/QUOTE]If its blocked in the US, just get the opera browser and use the built in VPN. This works on PC only though, not mobile.
[QUOTE=Dwyck;3806776]If its blocked in the US, just get the opera browser and use the built in VPN. This works on PC only though, not mobile.[/QUOTE]Thanks Dwyck. For the first time since FOSTA disaster I was actually able to get into my other site account. I'd be using opera more from now on.
Unfortunately since USASG blocks half of the link I still couldn't pull up the listcrawler link listed below. Anybody could e-mail it to me by any chance? I just want to see if it works with Opera and then will report.
[QUOTE=Nrlmus;3806801]Thanks Dwyck. For the first time since FOSTA disaster I was actually able to get into my other site account. I'd be using opera more from now on.
Unfortunately since USASG blocks half of the link I still couldn't pull up the listcrawler link listed below. Anybody could e-mail it to me by any chance? I just want to see if it works with Opera and then will report.[/QUOTE]I tried the link using VPN (TorGuard) and it doesn't work either. USA-specifc city links just don't work.
Escortbabylon / listcrawler is operating. I don't know how. But it is accessible from my android phone. I use Google Chrome. There are other browsers that will bypass restrictions / censors such as the well known TOR. It was actually developed by none other than FBI to give people who live in dictator countries a way to access the free internet. Go figure huh? I never imagined that we'd have to even think about that.
But anyway, I am able to access via Google Chrome on Android phone.
And last but not least, thank you to the Dutch and Bulgarian fellows who took this site into their reins. Freedom does exist!
[QUOTE=Cperry123;3806657]Try Google. I have an Android phone and can access it with a Google search.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=InnDeep;3807233]Escortbabylon / listcrawler is operating. I don't know how. But it is accessible from my android phone. I use Google Chrome. There are other browsers that will bypass restrictions / censors such as the well known TOR. It was actually developed by none other than FBI to give people who live in dictator countries a way to access the free internet. Go figure huh? I never imagined that we'd have to even think about that.
But anyway, I am able to access via Google Chrome on Android phone.
And last but not least, thank you to the Dutch and Bulgarian fellows who took this site into their reins. Freedom does exist![/QUOTE]This is crazy! When I checked yesterday, Babylon was NOT working on my iPhone. This morning it is working and I can pull up all of the American cities. It was indeed blocked for a month. Something or someone obviously fixed it. I'm not terribly interested in the technical aspects of how they fixed it. But I want to know WHO fixed it and WHY! I am grateful for the data being accessible again and there are also new ads on there. But I'm suspicious. What the fuck is going on here?! The benign explanation is that they just moved completely overseas like this site did. But there are other more nefarious explanations. Remember what I found out about EroticMonkeyShit. Someone stole my reviews on there and is pretending in private messages to be ME. Be carefull with these post-FOSTA resurrected sites! This site is still cool as it's clear that all the old perps are clearly those that have always been here. But on that Erotic Monkeyshit site, there is someone or something behind the curtains that is not necessarily our friend.
Honestly, I use TunnelBear ([URL]https://www.tunnelbear.com/[/URL]) to get to these sites. It lets you set where you're browsing from and also works for iPhone / iPad.
[QUOTE=ThomasSmith;3807414]Honestly, I use TunnelBear ([URL]https://www.tunnelbear.com/[/URL]) to get to these sites. It lets you set where you're browsing from and also works for iPhone / iPad.[/QUOTE]With all due respect, no fucking way, sir! TOR ruined my High Sierra system and fucked it up so that I couldn't figure out how to use Safari again properly till I restored the operating system. Others reported similar problems. So if you are not an IT geek, and unless you want to waste your precious time fixing your computer, I would dis-recommend these sketchy browser tricks, since according to very recent reports, TE are has been gutted of American reviews, and rendered useless anyway. And Baby Lon has just now become accessible again on iphones using Safari.