Philly Sugar

Recently (over the last 4 weeks) I've had 2 different occurrences where potential SB's I had conversations with both on and off site turned out to be 1 fake / scammer and 1 flake / ns (neither thing being a surprise nor rare). The curious part is that when their profile disappeared afterward, so did the entire conversations from my convo history. Never had this happen previously, even when they've deleted their profile. The convo normally remains, just the profile info goes away (as expected). Just wondering if anyone else has had this happen.

I have not experienced that, even when they block you or delete their profile, the conversation stays as longs as you are a premium member. Might be something new, couldn't hurt to pose the question to SA help desk. They are usually responsive.

Be Safe.

[QUOTE=Skyguy2;5188657]Recently (over the last 4 weeks) I've had 2 different occurrences where potential SB's I had conversations with both on and off site turned out to be 1 fake / scammer and 1 flake / ns (neither thing being a surprise nor rare). The curious part is that when their profile disappeared afterward, so did the entire conversations from my convo history. Never had this happen previously, even when they've deleted their profile. The convo normally remains, just the profile info goes away (as expected). Just wondering if anyone else has had this happen.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Skyguy2;5188657]Recently (over the last 4 weeks) I've had 2 different occurrences where potential SB's I had conversations with both on and off site turned out to be 1 fake / scammer and 1 flake / ns (neither thing being a surprise nor rare). The curious part is that when their profile disappeared afterward, so did the entire conversations from my convo history. Never had this happen previously, even when they've deleted their profile. The convo normally remains, just the profile info goes away (as expected). Just wondering if anyone else has had this happen.[/QUOTE]In my experience, when the conversation disappears, SA has removed the SB's profile, probably for using escort terminology.

[QUOTE=KennyG;5189554]In my experience, when the conversation disappears, SA has removed the SB's profile, probably for using escort terminology.[/QUOTE]Interesting. Thanks for the perspective. That wasn't part of any of my convos with them, but I can see how the one profile may have had that type of discussion with others. Another reason I keep all "real" conversation off-site.

I am not sure if they do this just for suspected escorts but I am certain they do it if they suspect underage. I chatted with a woman who had this happen to her. I suspect a disgruntled SD reported her as underage out of spite. She was able to create a new profile but everything connected with her original profile was totally erased / deleted. I can see why the site would do this: nothing to show even if subpoenaed. For this reason, when I find someone that interests me and I dig up PII or get a number, I save screenshots and data to a separate file.

Bam.

[QUOTE=Skyguy2;5188657]Recently (over the last 4 weeks) I've had 2 different occurrences where potential SB's I had conversations with both on and off site turned out to be 1 fake / scammer and 1 flake / ns (neither thing being a surprise nor rare). The curious part is that when their profile disappeared afterward, so did the entire conversations from my convo history. Never had this happen previously, even when they've deleted their profile. The convo normally remains, just the profile info goes away (as expected). Just wondering if anyone else has had this happen.[/QUOTE]

I needed a good laugh this morning.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/9e1bb121-dc29-4901-9be3-3aa06da2d80e[/URL]

Requests 700 ppm. Who drops that kinda donation and god bless her if she can get it LOL.

Runner.

[QUOTE=Runner8;5202585]I needed a good laugh this morning.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/9e1bb121-dc29-4901-9be3-3aa06da2d80e[/URL]

Requests 700 ppm. Who drops that kinda donation and god bless her if she can get it LOL.

Runner.[/QUOTE]Many girls come up with an allowance and wait until the guy who's willing to pay it shows up. They are really not looking for an arrangement, but will take it if the dream one shows up. They are window shopping.

[QUOTE=Runner8;5202585]I needed a good laugh this morning.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/9e1bb121-dc29-4901-9be3-3aa06da2d80e[/URL]

Requests 700 ppm. Who drops that kinda donation and god bless her if she can get it LOL.

Runner.[/QUOTE]And she is not even all that!! Says specifically that she is low maintenance LOL. 👎127995;128078;127995;128078;127995;.

[QUOTE=Runner8;5202585]I needed a good laugh this morning.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/9e1bb121-dc29-4901-9be3-3aa06da2d80e[/URL]

Requests 700 ppm. Who drops that kinda donation and god bless her if she can get it LOL.

Runner.[/QUOTE]She has "GENUINE ALLOWANCE" in her profile and wasted her time adding over 99 items to the SA wishlist that I hope no one has ever actually used.

[QUOTE=OverKill418;5202697]Many girls come up with an allowance and wait until the guy who's willing to pay it shows up. They are really not looking for an arrangement, but will take it if the dream one shows up. They are window shopping.[/QUOTE]Pretty much this. Look for people who have been on there at least a month and preferably 3 months plus. Look for girls that are explicitly sexual in their photos (or. Sort of frumpy / boyish because those ones aren't social irl and are more likely to actually be looking for the D). If she's wearing a dress and holding a wine glass it means she's waiting for the guy that will giver her 3 k a month that is never, ever, ever coming, but she'll get with a guy that will do ppm 700 so that she can pretend he was rich and that it just didn't work out.

You can't convince or open up a girl to different possibilities that they haven't themselves set. So scan the profiles for the ones that sort of understand they're just p*titutes that don't want to really admit it (if they aren't that in reality and this is just another site to try to pull an income from).

We texted a bit, seems nice, definitely for-real (her info wasn't hard to track down at all), but my spidey senses tingled when we were going to meet and I changed my mind. She wanted four bills for everything.

[QUOTE=BurbsMonger;5148340]I saw her once, she is older and larger than her pics. Like most ladies, said her head game was fire. Like most ladies, it turned out her head game generated as much heat as rubbing my two fingers together. If you can get past her looks, I couldn't, her mediocre head game, she is able to host at her job site which was a plus.

Be Safe.[/QUOTE]

Hey all. Been lurking a little while, mostly on the CHI stuff for a visit I have planned. But I'm from the Philly burbs, live here and work here. Anyway, I'm a longtime monger with reviews on the major place back to 2005, and I've been on SA for years. I have a few nuggets of intel on ladies there for you:

New to PA, loves kink (switch), needs cash (living with her ex): 300.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/e7ef82e7-1480-4dca-92e7-4ed0c4d9e1a5[/URL]

Older lady, Exton, looks nice but only BBBJ at 150:

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/8fb6c157-19d0-44b1-ae61-7281224a223b[/URL]

Pro, but doesn't think she is. Only hosts in West Chester, and only on days she wants to. 250:

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/a8d64abd-22b2-4936-ac1a-90cecf217646[/URL]

Pro, but doesn't think she is. Talks a LOT, former stripper, moves around a bit. Drama queen. 400:

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/b76f75ad-9494-4709-b1f6-396c4aeb08de[/URL]

This one is the winner, and that's not sarcastic. 300, BBBJ, CFS. Here's the catch: She's extremely intelligent, educated, and selective. Wow her brain, and get the rest. She's 100% more attractive than her pictures; I was floored. Met me in a hotel the first time, wearing a skin tight dress and over-knee boots. She also likes Spanx, because she IS a little heavy. But her face-- definitely a 10.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/07014756-3776-4347-bfbb-7132b511d631[/URL]

I was all set to meet up with her a bit earlier, arranged the time and place. On my way there crickets.

Terrible lately here on SA. Another one I met for lunch, she was telling me how her last SD just liked to 'hang out and talk' she wanted five 00 to do that. Next.

[QUOTE=GolfMan57;5147729]Any intel on this one. I am coming to Philly next month.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/092654a2-ddb9-4ade-a20e-18fdbfd949e6[/URL]

Thanks.[/QUOTE]

Don't waste your time with Dylan. She is older then her profile says, heavier, and her skills are not that good. I saw her once for a blow and go, wasn't worth it.

Be Safe.

[QUOTE=PinHead11;5232802]I was all set to meet up with her a bit earlier, arranged the time and place. On my way there crickets.

Terrible lately here on SA. Another one I met for lunch, she was telling me how her last SD just liked to 'hang out and talk' she wanted five 00 to do that. Next.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Btor123;5206681]She has "GENUINE ALLOWANCE" in her profile and wasted her time adding over 99 items to the SA wishlist that I hope no one has ever actually used.[/QUOTE]1) I just discovered this thread exists. I've been posting about SA in 'general reports'.

2) this was timely and helpful. I had just msg'ed her this morning.

Anyone seen her (Maggie)? Just moved to texts.

https://www.seeking.com/member/8ccc3209-ff8d-44da-a095-8dfa4da317a1

[QUOTE=JTerry26;5236453]Anyone seen her (Maggie)? Just moved to texts.

https://www.seeking.com/member/8ccc3209-ff8d-44da-a095-8dfa4da317a1[/QUOTE]Been texting with her. She's got a husband, 63-year old bf, two kids and limited availability. Does seem nice and open minded though we haven't nailed down a time and place to meet.

Texting with her a bit, she's looking for 500 per meet.

[QUOTE=JTerry26;5236453]Anyone seen her (Maggie)? Just moved to texts.

https://www.seeking.com/member/8ccc3209-ff8d-44da-a095-8dfa4da317a1[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Critias;5242341]Texting with her a bit, she's looking for 500 per meet.[/QUOTE]Aren't almost ALL of these ladies looking for 500 PPM? And they all say they used to get that. I just don't believe it.

[QUOTE=HenryT458;5243574]Aren't almost ALL of these ladies looking for 500 PPM? And they all say they used to get that. I just don't believe it.[/QUOTE]Can be had for much less. Just saying.

[QUOTE=TommyArcher;5243603]Can be had for much less. Just saying.[/QUOTE]Do you mean she can be had for less or you can get others for less? In general haven't heard a quote higher than $300 but I'm also not clicking on the ones that look like porn stars and are asking for a "luxury lifestyle". Highest I've heard is $300, lowest $200.

Ok the plus side, this woman is nearby and has the body type I like so I'll keep my date with her for now.

[QUOTE=JTerry26;5243926]Do you mean she can be had for less or you can get others for less? In general haven't heard a quote higher than $300 but I'm also not clicking on the ones that look like porn stars and are asking for a "luxury lifestyle". Highest I've heard is $300, lowest $200.

Ok the plus side, this woman is nearby and has the body type I like so I'll keep my date with her for now.[/QUOTE]Can be had for much less. Good luck and let us know how it goes!

[QUOTE=TommyArcher;5243944]Can be had for much less. Good luck and let us know how it goes![/QUOTE]Will do. Meeting her soon.

Honestly, she's about the highest with whom I've been in contact in the area. I've been chatting up a few in Chicago for an upcoming trip there, and those ladies are crazy. 500 seems to be the floor, they're insane.

[QUOTE=HenryT458;5243574]Aren't almost ALL of these ladies looking for 500 PPM? And they all say they used to get that. I just don't believe it.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TommyArcher;5243944]Can be had for much less. Good luck and let us know how it goes![/QUOTE]Met her for lunch. Went great. Seems like a winner. Setting up some time to have her over. See how the physical part goes.

So I'm at the end of my month. I have to say it was a success although like many things in life you get out of it what you put into it. Takes work and persistence. I've seen 3 woman (2 2 x each and 1 just for lunch) and another I'm texting with and am told by others in the Philly Sugar blog that she's available. So assuming my upcoming 'date' with the lunch woman goes well and assuming I can get with the 4th, I hit my goal of meeting 3-4 woman, all relatively local (suburbs). A couple of notes:

1) Moving to texts and then asking to meet does shake out the bullshit.

2) I don't think any are hard drug users. A couple of years into this, and watching someone slowly die last year, this is big for me.

3) 1 of the 4 (at least) is just a UTR but legit escort.

4) Prices are higher (200-300) but the 4 times we got together (2 different women) it was in my place or hers (hotel once) for 2-3 hours with longer session. 2 were MSOG. I've heard of women asking $500-$700/ meet but I didn't see that. I also didn't click on the chicks that look like Barbie.

5) One, I think, is really a legit civilian. Has her own place, FT job etc. I think she might just be in it for the dick. The first time I went over we went upstairs before we even set a price.

6) I think there's definitely bots and scammers out there and you get a lot of interest from Venezuela, Russia, England etc. Those are all easy to avoid. I think the bigger issue is some women aren't serious about ass for cash and are just on there hoping someone just gives them money. The skills you learn sniffing out the scams on StG or the other escort sites are transferable.

All in all, worth it for the $90 especially if I can keep these 4 in the mix. My plan is to have one be a weekly regular and the rest will be semi-regular, like a time or two a month. I'm cancelling my membership before it renews.

Any feedback on sexy sophie? Seems to have been on sa a while. We have started texting.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/cb34aef9-2b2f-4fc3-bfe4-4c64822e4f28[/URL]

Just saw 3 of 4, Sydney. Came from a recommendation. Home run. Nice spinner body. DTF.

[QUOTE=JTerry26;5247807]So I'm at the end of my month. I have to say it was a success although like many things in life you get out of it what you put into it. Takes work and persistence. I've seen 3 woman (2 2 x each and 1 just for lunch) and another I'm texting with and am told by others in the Philly Sugar blog that she's available. So assuming my upcoming 'date' with the lunch woman goes well and assuming I can get with the 4th, I hit my goal of meeting 3-4 woman, all relatively local (suburbs). A couple of notes:

1) Moving to texts and then asking to meet does shake out the bullshit.

2) I don't think any are hard drug users. A couple of years into this, and watching someone slowly die last year, this is big for me.

3) 1 of the 4 (at least) is just a UTR but legit escort.

4) Prices are higher (200-300) but the 4 times we got together (2 different women) it was in my place or hers (hotel once) for 2-3 hours with longer session. 2 were MSOG. I've heard of women asking $500-$700/ meet but I didn't see that. I also didn't click on the chicks that look like Barbie.

5) One, I think, is really a legit civilian. Has her own place, FT job etc. I think she might just be in it for the dick. The first time I went over we went upstairs before we even set a price.

6) I think there's definitely bots and scammers out there and you get a lot of interest from Venezuela, Russia, England etc. Those are all easy to avoid. I think the bigger issue is some women aren't serious about ass for cash and are just on there hoping someone just gives them money. The skills you learn sniffing out the scams on StG or the other escort sites are transferable.

All in all, worth it for the $90 especially if I can keep these 4 in the mix. My plan is to have one be a weekly regular and the rest will be semi-regular, like a time or two a month. I'm cancelling my membership before it renews.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JTerry26;5251688]Just saw 3 of 4, Sydney. Came from a recommendation. Home run. Nice spinner body. DTF.[/QUOTE]Just saw the 4th (Maggie). Another winner. So 4 women in a month. It was an expensive month but worth it. Just deleted my SA account. Now I just have to figure out frequency and rotation. There's worse problems to have. 😈. Happy to be off StG, at least for awhile.

[QUOTE=JTerry26;5252672]Just saw the 4th (Maggie). Another winner. So 4 women in a month. It was an expensive month but worth it. Just deleted my SA account. Now I just have to figure out frequency and rotation. There's worse problems to have. 😈. Happy to be off StG, at least for awhile.[/QUOTE]Can we get some links bro?

[QUOTE=PilotJones;5253433]Can we get some links bro?[/QUOTE]I wouldn't post a link for this guy. PM me for the reason. Don't get burned like he did me.

Many thanks to JTerry26 for taking the time to share his stroll down the Sugar Highway. I pretty much agree 100% with his findings and experiences. It does take some digging, skills and finesse to sort out the pros, scammers, users, BS and so on. I have found it helpful to do your due diligence and above all trust your gut. The times I have ignored the red or even yellow flags have been drama filled. I have been on WYP, SA and even AM. I have found SA to be not the best but at least better chances of a legit connection. Occasionally also had some luck on Tinder too, but that slow going there. These tough COVID times definitely require some extra creativity and resourcefulness!

[QUOTE=JTerry26;5252672]Just saw the 4th (Maggie). Another winner. So 4 women in a month. It was an expensive month but worth it. Just deleted my SA account. Now I just have to figure out frequency and rotation. There's worse problems to have. 😈. Happy to be off StG, at least for awhile.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Danginfantry;5253535]I wouldn't post a link for this guy. PM me for the reason. Don't get burned like he did me.[/QUOTE]As I mentioned in my last post, I deleted my SA account before it auto-renewed for another month.

[QUOTE=JTerry26;5252672]Just saw the 4th (Maggie). Another winner. So 4 women in a month. It was an expensive month but worth it. Just deleted my SA account. Now I just have to figure out frequency and rotation. There's worse problems to have. 😈. Happy to be off StG, at least for awhile.[/QUOTE]How many did you have to contact to see those four. I know I have had to contact many just to get a reply with a lot of wasted time.

Trouble shooting inquiry about trying to make a profile which was just banned.

So I've gotten banned from SA twice. Making another attempt at it.

Got VPN for my phone to browse, created a new Gmail account to register, fake name, address, etc. Ok so far, was able to browse with out any issues.

BUT, as soon as I took a pic and uploaded it, it got flagged for fraud and my account was deleted 5 minutes later.

I had taken it on a camera, then emailed it to myself and downloaded it to my phone, then uploaded it to the site from my phone.

Was it detected from my phone number? Something else I missed?

Any advice in breaching the gates would be appreciated.

Oh, per someone's advice on here I got a Visa Vanilla card but did not buy the subscription yet because I was waiting to see if this very thing would happen first.

[QUOTE=Mcc110;5266772]Trouble shooting inquiry about trying to make a profile which was just banned.

So I've gotten banned from SA twice. Making another attempt at it.

Got VPN for my phone to browse, created a new Gmail account to register, fake name, address, etc. Ok so far, was able to browse with out any issues.

BUT, as soon as I took a pic and uploaded it, it got flagged for fraud and my account was deleted 5 minutes later.

I had taken it on a camera, then emailed it to myself and downloaded it to my phone, then uploaded it to the site from my phone.

Was it detected from my phone number? Something else I missed?

Any advice in breaching the gates would be appreciated.

Oh, per someone's advice on here I got a Visa Vanilla card but did not buy the subscription yet because I was waiting to see if this very thing would happen first.[/QUOTE]Sorry I am unable to help with troubleshooting but certainly am interested in the Prepaid Gift card and if that works.

That site is such a pain in the ass. Sounds like you did everything right except maybe your picture triggered facial recognition. Just a thought. Maybe next time try a photo with a mask. But I agree, a new credit card with a different address, new email, cleared out history and cookies, etc. I am also very careful to never mention ppm, donations or any financial terms and conversations. Just some thoughts. Hope that helps!

[QUOTE=Mcc110;5266772]Trouble shooting inquiry about trying to make a profile which was just banned.

So I've gotten banned from SA twice. Making another attempt at it.

Got VPN for my phone to browse, created a new Gmail account to register, fake name, address, etc. Ok so far, was able to browse with out any issues.

BUT, as soon as I took a pic and uploaded it, it got flagged for fraud and my account was deleted 5 minutes later.

I had taken it on a camera, then emailed it to myself and downloaded it to my phone, then uploaded it to the site from my phone.

Was it detected from my phone number? Something else I missed?

Any advice in breaching the gates would be appreciated.

Oh, per someone's advice on here I got a Visa Vanilla card but did not buy the subscription yet because I was waiting to see if this very thing would happen first.[/QUOTE]

Seems SA is getting more sophisticated. As an FYI, as a premium member you don't have to upload a picture to message the ladies, however that may limit the responses you get back. I would try a filter app that blurs out your eyes or other facial features. I utilize this for my pics or like others have said wear a mask, hat and or sunglasses.

Be Safe.

[QUOTE=Mcc110;5266772]Trouble shooting inquiry about trying to make a profile which was just banned.

So I've gotten banned from SA twice. Making another attempt at it.

Got VPN for my phone to browse, created a new Gmail account to register, fake name, address, etc. Ok so far, was able to browse with out any issues.

BUT, as soon as I took a pic and uploaded it, it got flagged for fraud and my account was deleted 5 minutes later.

I had taken it on a camera, then emailed it to myself and downloaded it to my phone, then uploaded it to the site from my phone.

Was it detected from my phone number? Something else I missed?

Any advice in breaching the gates would be appreciated.

Oh, per someone's advice on here I got a Visa Vanilla card but did not buy the subscription yet because I was waiting to see if this very thing would happen first.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Proxysss;5267403]Sorry I am unable to help with troubleshooting but certainly am interested in the Prepaid Gift card and if that works.[/QUOTE]I always use a Visa gift card for membership. I get the meta bank ones from Home Depot, staples and some grocery stores.

Go on the card website to register the card with name and address (a fake one I use) and then use the card on Seeking using the same info. Been working for years and years.

Fellow mongers, it's been about 3 months since I took a self imposed hiatus from SA and about a month since I infiltrated one of the many sb only fb groups. As promised, here is what I uncovered.

- the typical scams; need gas / rent / food / money for Uber etc etc are discussed 95% of the time for the false promise of meeting or sending pics / videos. I believe it is safe to say, never advance money, gift cards, or purchase wish list items and send to any lady until you have properly vetted her.

I will report on 3 scams, only one was new to me and I have no experience with personally but found it important to warn others.

1) car date rob and dash- this was one I have experienced first hand however avoided successfully because I am pretty self aware of my car date locations. The set up is obviously a car date at either a pre determined location or location of her choice. Never choose the latter. We met at a large hospital utilizing their parking lot as nice private spot. I selected the location and strategically parked where I could see in all directions. When you are comfortable with your lady, her accomplices are scouting you when you arrive. They wait until you are partaking in the hobby fun and park your car. In my case there were 2 guys. I was able to avoid this because I saw their car park about 500 feet from mine and kept my eye on them the whole time. When I saw them approaching, I reached under my seat where I keep my friend G 9 . And yes, I have the proper paperwork for a permit and conceal. This young lady's name was Kelsey and was operating out of collegeville. I have her picture for those mongering in the burbs. She was operating on the SA, SB, WYP platforms. I caught her as recently as October pulling the same scam. It is scary that at least 2 other girls were discussing this type of scam although they did not appear to be from this area.

2) pic blackmail- they utilize the pic or pics you have on your profile page or that you text them to blackmail you for cash. They utilize burner numbers to blackmail you. This has happened to me like 5 times. I avoid this one by blurring all of my pics with different apps or using fake pics that are similar to what I look like by using google after the first time it happened to me. In addition, you can use Snapchat but they can still screenshot the pic but you will know it or they can use another phone or camera to take a pic of the snap.

3) pic blackmail / car damage / robbery- this one I have not experienced but I know exists locally and on the FB group. The basic set up is your Sb and you meet in a hotel room. While you are undressing or getting a shower she pretends she is texting but is really taking pics or videos of you in compromising poses. The idea is to blackmail you for money as she sends these pics and vids to her accomplices who are outside. These accomplices also scouted you when you arrived and know your car so they will threaten to damage your car or grab your plate number and try to locate you. As I have no personal experience with this not sure all of the ins and outs but thought it was important to warn all. To take precautions, I ask all sbs to shut off their phones before we get to our final location or partake in any activities.

I hope you find this information helpful and please Be Safe!