Strip Club Reports

I have been going to these clubs for years (almost 10). I know many dancers and decided to go check out the clubs to see how bad things are.

I have to admit, even with the most 'liberal' dancers, things are nowhere near where they used to be. I still got a little HJ now and then, but nothing that would actually allow me to finish.

I have been approached by at least a dozen dancers who I've talked to over the last several years and they all at some point bring up doing private dances. The problem is, they think they should make strip club money when doing privates. One tried to get me to agree to a 300/hr "private" where all she did was HJ. Most think they should get around 300 to 500 per hour.

I just shake my head and say, "There is no way you'll get that." Paruse TNA and TRB and you'll find better looking (and sometimes younger) women for less than 200/hr and they do FS.

Looks like the Strip Club scene is going to be on hard times for a while. It's a Shame.

[QUOTE=Croaker]I have been going to these clubs for years (almost 10).[/QUOTE]

Wow, now that you mention it that's about how long I've been in the Seattle scene... not counting experiences back east.

[QUOTE=Croaker]I have been approached by at least a dozen dancers who I've talked to over the last several years and they all at some point bring up doing private dances. The problem is, they think they should make strip club money when doing privates. One tried to get me to agree to a 300/hr "private" where all she did was HJ. Most think they should get around 300 to 500 per hour.[/QUOTE]

Disgusting. Personally I haven't had this experience with private dances. But maybe I've just been fortunate. You're doing the right thing in refusing. I wouldn't be just disappointed, no, I'd regard it as a ROB experience to get HJ for 300. Being the curmudgeon I am, I blame this all on hip-hop culture where girls get the idea somehow they're going to turn into classy hos and starz overnite just because they dress up.

What they don't realize is they're not the first humans to have a pussy and a hot little ass.

[QUOTE=Croaker]Looks like the Strip Club scene is going to be on hard times for a while. It's a Shame.[/QUOTE]

I think you're right--however, remember that P2P is a business like any other, and all business goes in cycles.

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[QUOTE=Third Eye]Disgusting. Personally I haven't had this experience with private dances. But maybe I've just been fortunate. You're doing the right thing in refusing. I wouldn't be just disappointed, no, I'd regard it as a ROB experience to get HJ for 300. Being the curmudgeon I am, I blame this all on hip-hop culture where girls get the idea somehow they're going to turn into classy hos and starz overnite just because they dress up.

What they don't realize is they're not the first humans to have a pussy and a hot little ass.[/QUOTE]

Very true. However, you have to look at this a little sideways. I've known dancers who do BJ/HJ for 40-50/dance (i.e. 3-4 minutes). So that is what they consider when thinking a per/hr rate. I don't fault them for that, I simply educate them. I tell them to head out to TNA and see that there are women there who do everything (hj/bj/bbbj/fs and sometimes greek) for 200/hr or less. Most of the dancers then usually respond with something along the lines of, "I wouldn't do a 'private' for less than 300". And my responseto them is: it all comes own to supply and demand.

I've known and met hundreds of dancers. I've even dated one or two. All in all, it just takes education.

At the club, you have to have a "convenience store" mentality. I show up, there are the girls, I may have to wait 20-30 min for my particular girl... but in that time, I'm watching women get nekkid on the stage. My girl stops by, we chat and then we head off to the VIP for a few dances. I'm such a regular, I can usually get my fun for 100 or less. Over the last 10 years, there have been several dancers who even do FS for that (if they get to know you, good things can happen).

So that's 100 to 130 for about 15-20 minutes. Same as most Escorts on TNA at this time, maybe a little more. But as I said, strip clubs are there for convenience, so you pay a premium.

Recently, one of the dancers who took umbrage with my counter offer of 150/hr said that I'd pay 100 for 20 min here in the club and that equates to 300/hr. So I took the time to educate her. If I am going to spend an hour with a girl, I'll look one up in TNA or TRB. I'll know (from reviews) she's exactly what I'm looking for and will do what I desire. I'll spend 150-200 per hr (because I wont go higher than that).

She responded with, "Then why go to the strip clubs if you can get an hr for 150?" The answer is simple. For the hr with the escort, there is scheduling, setting up times, finding her place (if incall), having her find mine (if outcall) etc.... Usually a bit of a hassle. The hassle is worth it, but a hassle none-the-less. Now with the strip clubs, I simply show up and there are women there ready to go (instant gratification). I sometimes have to wait 20-30 min for my particular honey, but that isn't any problem. Convenience... that is why I'd pay 100 for 20 min, but never pay 300 for an hour. It sounds silly, but that's just me.

[QUOTE=Croaker]At the club, you have to have a "convenience store" mentality. I show up, there are the girls, I may have to wait 20-30 min for my particular girl... but in that time, I'm watching women get nekkid on the stage. My girl stops by, we chat and then we head off to the VIP for a few dances. I'm such a regular, I can usually get my fun for 100 or less.

[...] She responded with, "Then why go to the strip clubs if you can get an hr for 150?" The answer is simple. For the hr with the escort, there is scheduling, setting up times, finding her place (if incall), having her find mine (if outcall) etc.... Usually a bit of a hassle. The hassle is worth it, but a hassle none-the-less. Now with the strip clubs, I simply show up and there are women there ready to go (instant gratification).[/QUOTE]Well stated, Croaker. I used to do incall escorts only, seeing strip clubs as a place to get "excited" and that's all. Once I found Rick's daytime, that changed- and in the aftermath of the busts, going back to the drama-filled boards it seems much harder to just find a simple BBBJ provider who's reasonably attractive. Rick's certainly made it easy: you could get lower mileage dances from some really good looking women, and higher mileage dances from also good looking women (I tended to be picky) with the ability to see them in the flesh without committing to anything, and seeing if there's an instant connection or grating quality. With providers. You never quite know if the pictures are accurate or valid, etc.

Yes, you can't necessarily be as liberal, and yes it can be pricier per minute. But you can't beat the convenience; when I'd dance with some of my regulars, I'd have a flat rate, no dance counting, and we'd usually get HJ/BJ, sometimes FS. The flat rate was less than an hour with an escort but probably only 30 minutes of time, with the convenience of going when you're in the mood and getting more in the mood watching the stage shows or glancing sideways into the VIP area and seeing dancers bounce like pogo sticks.

I'd like to see some of the more liberal Rick's/Honey's girls find a safe haven among this board, or TRB/TNA, etc, so long as they understand the economics of what you're describing. If they're attractive, and don't mind higher mileage, they can easily get 10 appointments a week at the usual rates, with no rent to the Franks or tips to DJs, etc. Hell, I'd pay Sharise or Ruby or Arianna $200/250 in a heartbeat to spend an hour at my place with no aisle monitors or cumstained coaches.

I still see escorts, some of them are damn fine. Coyo Tea on TNA is a hell of good time for 140/hr!! And she's a total geek too, so I'm in heaven when I get to spend time with her. But sometimes our schedules don't sync and I have to wait for another day. This is all part of the process of seeing an escort.

Strippers are always there and when you go enough (and yes, spend a lot of money) you learn who gives the good dances. After a while, you have the ones you really like and you know their schedule. Sometimes the really good dancers will help point out other dancers who have similar boundaries as they do. This is valuable intel :)

One thing that can happen with dancers (that I've never had happen with an escort) is free time. I've taken over a dozen dancers out for dinner or a movie and actually wound up back at my place for some fun (for those that need it spelled out, yes we had sex... always SAFE though and no money exchanged hands). Now, I'm no "Brad Pitt" or "George Clooney". I'm your average 30 something with a bit of a gut and more hair on my back than on my head (I know.. eeeew!!). I'm just saying that sometimes with escorts you are paying for companionship (as well as sex) but all you get is sex. With some dancers, you can sometimes get companionship without spending a dime on them in the club.

I'm sorry, I got sidetracked and started to ramble... basically, my theory on strip clubs vs. escorts is a few posts down. In the Clubs you pay a premium per hr for the girls to be there waiting for you to show up. With escorts, you get more "bang for your buck" (hehe, I just wanted to use that saying) on an hourly basis, but sometimes you have to wait days to get the escort you want. I've had nights where I called five or six escorts and none of them had time that evening to see me. I then have to sometimes wait days to "get some relief" that wasn't my right hand.

Some guys like the clubs, some like escorts, some prefer only street action. To each, their own.

I'm just going to enjoy the women no matter where I meet them.

Went to Sugar's last night. They had a $100 prize nude dance contest featuring the waitresses. Two of whom were Fat & Fugly. One was 35, with more tatoos than a biker (even though bikers are kool). The winner, had no-ass,but was the smallest of the 4 contestants.

Also, I was approached by some of the girlz who kept asking me if I wanted a private dance. Logic would clearly dictate that: The ladyz weren't that eager to dance for little old me! They should have just came out & said "I just want your $20 bucks buddy, and no, you can't grab my ass,my breasts or my rub my legs. And when you run out of money, get the hell out of here"!

[QUOTE=Tarius Shinobi]Went to Sugar's last night. They had a $100 prize nude dance contest featuring the waitresses. Two of whom were Fat & Fugly. One was 35, with more tatoos than a biker (even though bikers are kool). The winner, had no-ass,but was the smallest of the 4 contestants.

Also, I was approached by some of the girlz who kept asking me if I wanted a private dance. Logic would clearly dictate that: The ladyz weren't that eager to dance for little old me! They should have just came out & said "I just want your $20 bucks buddy, and no, you can't grab my ass,my breasts or my rub my legs. And when you run out of money, get the hell out of here"![/QUOTE]All strippers are looking for cake, and nothing else. I would'nt hold it against them, though. By the way, I've never seen much in the way of talent at the Sands; or people, eiither. It's normally dead, and a little creepy. Worse since the remodel.

[QUOTE=Tarius Shinobi]Went to Sugar's last night. They had a $100 prize nude dance contest featuring the waitresses. Two of whom were Fat & Fugly. One was 35, with more tatoos than a biker (even though bikers are kool). The winner, had no-ass,but was the smallest of the 4 contestants.

Also, I was approached by some of the girlz who kept asking me if I wanted a private dance. Logic would clearly dictate that: The ladyz weren't that eager to dance for little old me! They should have just came out & said "I just want your $20 bucks buddy, and no, you can't grab my ass,my breasts or my rub my legs. And when you run out of money, get the hell out of here"![/QUOTE]We can't fault the ladies with wanting to make some cake. It's what makes strippers so fantastic. Throwing themselves out there for the almighty dollar.

On a side note, I imagine the contest was both funny/sad at the same time. I'm sorry I missed it. How was the crowd?

[QUOTE=Cat Fan]We can't fault the ladies with wanting to make some cake. It's what makes strippers so fantastic. Throwing themselves out there for the almighty dollar.

On a side note, I imagine the contest was both funny/sad at the same time. I'm sorry I missed it. How was the crowd?[/QUOTE]The crowd was okay. But if you must, check out Tuesday nights.

[QUOTE=Cat Fan]All strippers are looking for cake, and nothing else. I would'nt hold it against them, though. By the way, I've never seen much in the way of talent at the Sands; or people, eiither. It's normally dead, and a little creepy. Worse since the remodel.[/QUOTE]You know what ? I noticed that too about the Sands. Some of those dancers (Luna being the only exception) act like "Prima Donnas"!

This occurs mostly when there are hardly any customers there.

Ta da.........it's:

"Dancing at the Blue Iguana".

[QUOTE=Tarius Shinobi]You know what ? I noticed that too about the Sands. Some of those dancers (Luna being the only exception) act like "Prima Donnas"!

This occurs mostly when there are hardly any customers there.[/QUOTE]I've not been there in a while, but I've never been there when it's crowded. Maybe it's time for a visit. I'll keep my eyes peeled for this Luna you speak of.

[QUOTE=Cat Fan]...I'll keep my eyes peeled for this Luna you speak of.[/QUOTE]She'll be hard to miss. She's the tall, busty Latina with my d!ck in her mouth... ;)

'Scuse me while I kiss the sky... -- Jimi Hendrix

Has anyone seen or tried out Tiny I think her name is?

She's a sexy light skined black girl?

Mostly there on weekends or nights

[QUOTE=Jimi Hendrix]She'll be hard to miss. She's the tall, busty Latina with my d!ck in her mouth... ;)

'Scuse me while I kiss the sky... -- Jimi Hendrix[/QUOTE]Good one Jimi,

Have you seen the stuck up dancer chick there who's from either Fiji or Tahiti?
She has long,black hair, "NO" ass, but some nice, dark "Nipplz"!

I wouldn't get a dance from her if Donald Trump paid for it!

Then again fuck Donald Trump! He's fired (LOL)!