General Reports

Some major hoppyist in grand rapids published this list on craigslist today, big round of appaulse for him

I also add
269-341-0565

This is the 'Katie list'. A warning that it is not all inclusive!

The name 'Katie' now represents any provider who 'upsells' and/or practices the
'cash and dash', etc. Call any provider you want, but do not even call any of these
numbers. Until you are sure of your SP, DON'T PAY UPFRONT!
616-477-1923
616-477-1564
616-293-6270
616-813-6031
616-284-7230
616-477-3564
616-773-5307
616-914-2996
616-916-4589
616-889-4264
616-843-5279
616-607-0753
616-607-0573
616-477-7258
231-206-7472
231-343-3615
231-457-7228
231-747-3040
231-855-3596
231-750-2998
231-750-9523
231-750-2990
231-750-6503
231-750-6008
248-303-9492
Please don't waste you r time or money!

And don't forget to flag them off CL!
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616-485-7259 morgan is Riley Vixon- I've heard from others that
she's trouble. I simply don't bother.

616 916 7044 Angel-got most of my money back from her (not the girl in the
pic) after she got the money everything changed.

616-477-2031 MARIAH.. WATCH OUT FOR THIS ONE. Heard she was cash
and dash,and doesn't deliver what is promised.

[QUOTE=Themage]Dude, I don't know what to say, you were lucky for sure, but I think I would have never done what you did, I really feel bad the girl, I mean I personally believe that. With all the sexual freedom we have in the states- if a woman wants to have sex for money I have no moral objection about it. But that is when the woman take an informed and voluntary decision, not when you get a girl from the street who just got treated really unfairly. Plus are you gonna pay here for everything you did for 4. 5 hrs, that would exceed a $1000 in the common price.

I am sorry but If I were you I would take that girl to the nearest police station where they can give her emergancy shelter and help her restablish her life, and get her stuff back, I wouldn't have touched her while she was in distress, instead I would propably help her and avoid taking advantage of her.

And guess what if you have done that you would have propably made a friend out of her and got a real chance and her being grateful sex, which would have been guilt free.

Anyway, the chance to do the honorable thing is not out yet, you still can apologize to her and take her to a church or even a hospital and they will be able to help her without getting you involved into any legal trouble. Remember that a girl from your own loved ones can be in that situation and how angry would you be at that point, if my sister decided to be a prositute I won't interfere with her decision but if somebody did that to her I will propably kill him.[/QUOTE]

A am not turning her out, she is not a SW and I am treating her like a GF so I dont know what your issues are.
And how can I get involved in any legal trouble? I just picked her up, provided her food and a place to stay and last night even bought her some clothes. I think I will keep this one for awhile. In light of her not being a SW I will not post or share any pics.
Sorry, I am a father and I disagree, my mind is clear here on this one, and not the little one either. Now if I were doing something real immoral I would agree, but this is sexual freedom, she offered, I took, and its free.
Oh and by the way, she is 20, 5' 8" 115 lbs and a sweetheart. Just found out she is bi and a swinger!

Just treat her well and be kind to her. It sounds like she could use a good friend.

[QUOTE=El Monger]A am not turning her out, she is not a SW and I am treating her like a GF so I dont know what your issues are.
And how can I get involved in any legal trouble? I just picked her up, provided her food and a place to stay and last night even bought her some clothes. I think I will keep this one for awhile. In light of her not being a SW I will not post or share any pics.
Sorry, I am a father and I disagree, my mind is clear here on this one, and not the little one either. Now if I were doing something real immoral I would agree, but this is sexual freedom, she offered, I took, and its free.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=El Monger]A am not turning her out, she is not a SW and I am treating her like a GF so I don't know what your issues are.

And how can I get involved in any legal trouble? I just picked her up, provided her food and a place to stay and last night even bought her some clothes. I think I will keep this one for awhile. In light of her not being a SW I will not post or share any pics.

Sorry, I am a father and I disagree, my mind is clear here on this one, and not the little one either. Now if I were doing something real immoral I would agree, but this is sexual freedom, she offered, I took, and its free. [/QUOTE]You're doing nothing wrong. Certainly her fate could have been a lot worse had you not come along. She could have ended up dead in an alley.

[QUOTE=Themage]Some major hoppyist in grand rapids published this list on craigslist today, big round of appaulse for him

I also add
269-341-0565

This is the 'Katie list'. A warning that it is not all inclusive!

The name 'Katie' now represents any provider who 'upsells' and/or practices the
'cash and dash', etc. Call any provider you want, but do not even call any of these
numbers. Until you are sure of your SP, DON'T PAY UPFRONT!
616-477-1923
616-477-1564
616-293-6270
616-813-6031
616-284-7230
616-477-3564
616-773-5307
616-914-2996
616-916-4589
616-889-4264
616-843-5279
616-607-0753
616-607-0573
616-477-7258
231-206-7472
231-343-3615
231-457-7228
231-747-3040
231-855-3596
231-750-2998
231-750-9523
231-750-2990
231-750-6503
231-750-6008
248-303-9492
Please don't waste you r time or money!

And don't forget to flag them off CL!
-
616-485-7259 morgan is Riley Vixon- I've heard from others that
she's trouble. I simply don't bother.

616 916 7044 Angel-got most of my money back from her (not the girl in the
pic) after she got the money everything changed.

616-477-2031 MARIAH.. WATCH OUT FOR THIS ONE. Heard she was cash
and dash,and doesn't deliver what is promised.[/QUOTE]


What do you mean by "major hobbiest" on CL? It is a joke. It is anonymous and most of the things he refers to are second hand, hearsay upon hearsay. Sounds like either the competition or a stalker or maybe someone who has been ripped off. Or possibly its you on the moral right stinking up the place. Do you have anything to contribute? (oh BTW there is a section for CL reviews.)
And everything on CL is getting flagged as fast as it goes up, and has been for months now.
Im sorry, I dont mean to flame and I really dont want to be confrontational so in the spirit of the site I will logg of now and refrain, I see you are new & I look forward to your contributions to the site.

Finding young ladies in distress is not that uncommon. Some mongers cruise around specifically looking for a part timer or a gal down on her luck financially. I've always dreamed of a young one getting kicked out by her parents and me picking her up. Hasn't happened yet tho.

Sounds like you found a great little hottie. As long as you don't turn into her pimp and start forcin her to turn tricks I don't see anything morally wrong with it -- provided she is 18. Sounds like a good short term situation for the both of you.

Ok I am sorry but your first post about the experience with this girl made it sound like you are the one who kinda forced her into this situation , but if she is the one who offered, then have all the fun you want. I have no objections.

On the other hand, the post from craigs list, I believe is legitimate at least some of the number he mentioned were for people who repeatedly mugged or cheated other people as reported here and in other places, I myself got burned a couple of time. to my luck I wasn't mugged yet, but just over the month, my last three succesuve attempts ended up with...

a) one girl gave me an appointment in grandrapids and made me drive their, then when I arrrived therir she told me she had to change the location and directed me into a 2nd place then when I arrived at the 2nd place she told me that she is sorry because she gave me the wrong address and she gave me the "correct" address and when I arrived their she stopped answering her phone all together and I had to return after an hour of driving all over grand rapids, when I looked up the number witha wider search i found that this number did this to 2 other people in the same day.

b) the next time was a girl in lansing, gave me an appointment and all the way up till the last ten minutes she answered her phone and as soon as I arrived she never called back, and then found out that she did the same for another customer the same day

c) the third time I decided to have an outcall to my own place instead of driving to somebody, called a girl she said she will come in 20 minutes, then I waited and waited and she never showed up, and two hours later she posted another ad, I tried to call he but she kept hanging up on me.

That is why I am dead serious about cleaning Craigslist, from those scammers. I had wonderful expreineces in other plcaes with the first girl I call. but here is west michigin the situation is much worse

[QUOTE=El Monger]A am not turning her out, she is not a SW and I am treating her like a GF so I don't know what your issues are.

And how can I get involved in any legal trouble? I just picked her up, provided her food and a place to stay and last night even bought her some clothes. I think I will keep this one for awhile. In light of her not being a SW I will not post or share any pics.

Sorry, I am a father and I disagree, my mind is clear here on this one, and not the little one either. Now if I were doing something real immoral I would agree, but this is sexual freedom, she offered, I took, and its free.

Oh and by the way, she is 20, 5' 8" 115 lbs and a sweetheart. Just found out she is bi and a swinger! [/QUOTE]Enjoy her as long as you can. Talk about good luck!

Don

[QUOTE=Themage]Ok I am sorry but your first post about the experience with this girl made it sound like you are the one who kinda forced her into this situation , but if she is the one who offered, then have all the fun you want. I have no objections.

On the other hand, the post from craigs list, I believe is legitimate at least some of the number he mentioned were for people who repeatedly mugged or cheated other people as reported here and in other places, I myself got burned a couple of time. to my luck I wasn't mugged yet, but just over the month, my last three succesuve attempts ended up with...

a) one girl gave me an appointment in grandrapids and made me drive their, then when I arrrived therir she told me she had to change the location and directed me into a 2nd place then when I arrived at the 2nd place she told me that she is sorry because she gave me the wrong address and she gave me the "correct" address and when I arrived their she stopped answering her phone all together and I had to return after an hour of driving all over grand rapids, when I looked up the number witha wider search i found that this number did this to 2 other people in the same day.

b) the next time was a girl in lansing, gave me an appointment and all the way up till the last ten minutes she answered her phone and as soon as I arrived she never called back, and then found out that she did the same for another customer the same day

c) the third time I decided to have an outcall to my own place instead of driving to somebody, called a girl she said she will come in 20 minutes, then I waited and waited and she never showed up, and two hours later she posted another ad, I tried to call he but she kept hanging up on me.

That is why I am dead serious about cleaning Craigslist, from those scammers. I had wonderful expreineces in other plcaes with the first girl I call. but here is west michigin the situation is much worse[/QUOTE]
Okay Themage,
post the experiences that you experience, that will give you credibility.

[QUOTE=Dongr]Enjoy her as long as you can. Talk about good luck!

Don[/QUOTE]
Hello Don, I see the name change. Don is a senior member and has shared with me. Thanks Don, its been awhile.

I agree wholeheartedly, our first priority is to remain safe as there are people who seek to take advantage of the fact that as mongers we are not necessarily willing to go LE. Even though the intel on this forum is often shady we must communication info on fakes, scams, and imposters. I appreciate the numbers and immediately began to cross reference with my own list. Ultimately we'll use our own judgment (for some people they won't be able to avoid taking a hit) but tidbits can make a difference. Stay safe.

Oh by the way, the issue with Nikki IMHO on the other forum is blown out of proportion. Yes, she may have got pissed off about a situation (which we will never know the real facts) but my experience was genuine and I can't wait to get back for some wonderful BBBJWCIM

Been cruising primarily between 6 PM to 11 PM the past two weeks and have not seen anything on Division from Franklin to 44th, Buchanan from Hall to 28th, the NW side on Broadway, stocking, & Leonard, and even took a trip down to the Black Hills (Oxford, Curve, Dorchester, Kensington SW). Does anyone know whether there's another time of day they are moving and/or where?

I have not seen GR this dry in a while; my funds are low so I cannot consistently hit CL & AMP. I need to have a steady .2 to .4 BBBJWCIM every once in a while. Can anyone help a fellow monger out?

I think my thing would be not trusting all of her drama and worried that if I trusted her too much, she would eventually take advantage and rip me off.

But I'm not trying to judge you, just how I'd probably respond. Good luck, dude.

[QUOTE=El Monger]A am not turning her out, she is not a SW and I am treating her like a GF so I dont know what your issues are.
And how can I get involved in any legal trouble? I just picked her up, provided her food and a place to stay and last night even bought her some clothes. I think I will keep this one for awhile. In light of her not being a SW I will not post or share any pics.
Sorry, I am a father and I disagree, my mind is clear here on this one, and not the little one either. Now if I were doing something real immoral I would agree, but this is sexual freedom, she offered, I took, and its free.
Oh and by the way, she is 20, 5' 8" 115 lbs and a sweetheart. Just found out she is bi and a swinger![/QUOTE]

Hooked up with Janet on s division just north of hall by the kfc. 25 year old 5' 3 120 lbs. Very nice BBBJ for 20, She remembers me from about 1 1/2 years ago. I was impressed she remembered my name. I looked back at my previous posts under dondetroit and found out it was that long ago since I seen her. Looking to have a date Saturday night with her as I have digets that work.

Very nice find!

Don

[QUOTE=TwistedBrother]I think my thing would be not trusting all of her drama and worried that if I trusted her too much, she would eventually take advantage and rip me off.

But I'm not trying to judge you, just how I'd probably respond. Good luck, dude.[/QUOTE]
Turns out that she is a sweetheart, we are friends.
After a few days in a hotel I hooked her up in an extended stay and directed her to the social services and helped her with a month bus pass.
I like this girl, the only drama was that day when she was emotional with getting kicked out.
In the next couple weekends we are going to a swingers club out of town. This is almost the best of both worlds! On another note, this has somewhat stopped my mongering locally.
El Monger