Oh! Yes, I'm often called Deb for short LOL.
[QUOTE=SouthBend;3410825]So are there 2? Because I see post of Debra Hollander and Debbie Darling. With ages 41 and 42 respectively. Because the one I contacted was Debbie via email and the one that responded me on here thinking I was talking about her was Debra. LOL it was my fault though because I just wrote Deb.
Clear example why we should be very clear of who we are talking about. Especially of reviews on the other thread when people sometimes don't even put name, partial phone number or url.[/QUOTE]Sorry, I'm not usually so self-centered as to assume a conversation is about ME, but I have been discussed here and I DO have an age limit LOL.
Anyway, yes there are two of us. I used to be "Debbie" too but changed it to Debra Hollander a little over a year ago. One of the reasons was due to being confused / mistaken for other "Debbies" LOL.
I got called out by a provider for saying lie about your age!
[QUOTE=INTravelingMan;3400714]So what's a few years? I am older than I look and I get that all the time. I have been mistaken for as young as 25 within the last month and I don't have any issues getting providers to see me.[/QUOTE]I got called out recently by a provider (who shall remain nameless) in response to this prior post by this 24 year old want to be cougar bait. The provider had the nerve to ask me if I was willing to encourage someone to lie about their age, what else I would be willing to lie about! Show of hands, how many providers have never lied to a monger about anything? If you honestly have never lied to a monger about anything, then please PM me because I want your name and number (so I can put you on my black list because that itself is a lie). This provider lies about age and many other things and has the nerve to insinuate that I would lie! Pot calling the kettle black there girlie.
That's what I would think.
Yes! I thought your way of thinking was kind of common Sense but I see not all people think that way. And yes. We are talking about needle users here. That brings on a whole other list of problems. Which southbend listed. I mean if someone nodding out and passing out on you is your kind of thing, then go for it!! And twotoke. I'm perfectly fine with everything I have and own. I love my home and actually put my money towards bettering myself and not DRUGS. Just know some of your fav providers are nothing but junkies feeding their habit.
[QUOTE=SouthBend;3416318]I disagree. Yes it's not my business if they use drugs. However to know if a provider uses them can be very helpful when deciding to see them or not. A provider hooked on heavy stuff may be more closely watch by our favorite uncle or be more prone to crime, more risk of being desperate and ripping me off, be involve with pimps that provide them with their addiction. As well as the fact that sometimes needles are used for their fun, and using needles can spread diseases. Also I don't want some provider overdosing right before or right after I dream them, because my uncle might really want to see if that happens. Also I wished there was it was allowed to share information of people staying or recently stayed at our uncle LEO house. That would be helpful when deciding who to see. Unfortunately that is not allowed.
Just my opinion. Since I only like to dream of reliable disease and drug free providers.[/QUOTE]
Wow, I take a few months off and come back to this crap again.
Seriously? I'm out of the game as some of you know, and I swear to God this was the topic being discussed when I last signed off.
My $0. 02 on this topic:
Despite the belief by some participants on this board, the actions of a provider outside of the time they spend in the sheets with the hobby enthusiasts can and often does effect everyone involved. Those risks include:
Uncle LEO: In the South Bend / Elkhart area there has been an attempt by Uncle LEO to leverage providers to help set up the "Johns" or to provide a list of their clients in return for reduced charges for drug possession. Uncle LEO wants to use this information to go after some high profile mongers that are rumored to play in the hobby. This is fact, not fiction. Additionally, Uncle LEO knows that this hobby is directly linked to the meth / heroine epidemic that has been surging in the Mishawaka area. Their hope is to get the provider to help them get to the dealers and the supply chain. This is fact, not fiction. Anyone who follows local politics in Elkhart will recognize the initials CH. He was the the before getting elected to the SAG. I helped get him elected. Worked his campaign, know him personally.
Disease:. Needle use puts the provider at risk of many types of disease. As they get deeper into the disease, they become less concerned about their own safety within the hobby, and most end up willing to work in a less safe environment (Bare Back). Unsafe oral carries just a many risks as unsafe vaginal and unsafe anal. HIV is not the only thing to worry about.
Theft / Violence: Desperate times call for desperate measures. We have all seen it / heard about it / experienced it.
So, in my opinion, YES! It is my business if a provider I'm about to "Spend Quality Time" with is a junkie in trouble with the law. As long as the source is credible and the accusations can be verified, I think we owe it to our hobby to expose them.
But that is just my opinion. I have permanently retired my gun to one single holster.
S5.
Wow! THANK YOU very much for sharing this information!
[QUOTE=Sapper5;3417671]
Uncle LEO: In the South Bend / Elkhart area there has been an attempt by Uncle LEO to leverage providers to help set up the "Johns" or to provide a list of their clients in return for reduced charges for drug possession. Uncle LEO wants to use this information to go after some high profile mongers that are rumored to play in the hobby. This is fact, not fiction. Additionally, Uncle LEO knows that this hobby is directly linked to the meth / heroine epidemic that has been surging in the Mishawaka area. Their hope is to get the provider to help them get to the dealers and the supply chain. This is fact, not fiction. Anyone who follows local politics in Elkhart will recognize the initials CH. He was the the before getting elected to the SAG. I helped get him elected. Worked his campaign, know him personally.
S5.[/QUOTE]Not being from the area, I had no idea there was a serious drug epidemic going on there! The funny thing is that each time I've visited South Bend, people I've met have suggested I might want to try staying in Mishawaka instead as it is "nicer" and supposedly I would be more inconspicuous.
I'll definitely have to do more research on my own prior to my next trip your way, but in the meantime, I greatly appreciate the intel! Xoxoxo!