Was wondering if anyone has seen her recently?
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Was wondering if anyone has seen her recently?
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Anyone seen Hazel before? [URL]http://orlando.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/hazel-20/10882438[/URL].
Goggled her number and this is what came up. [URL]http://www.placebee.com/fl/orlando/3807460[/URL].
[QUOTE=JcNewMe;2167141]Was wondering if anyone has seen her recently?
[URL]http://orlando.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/middle-eastern-beauty-60-specials-last-night-here-new-video-v11-22/8630134[/URL][/QUOTE]Last I heard she was moving with her bf to another country.
[QUOTE=JcNewMe;2167148]Anyone seen Hazel before? [URL]http://orlando.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/hazel-20/10882438[/URL].
Goggled her number and this is what came up. [URL]http://www.placebee.com/fl/orlando/3807460[/URL].[/QUOTE]Was thinking of tofft. She says out by 1 79 2 43 6. Want to tag team? LOL.
[QUOTE=MuffLuva;2167289]Was thinking of tofft. She says out by 1 79 2 43 6. Want to tag team? LOL.[/QUOTE]I don't know about tag teaming, but I sure I want to rent that house if she's there.
[QUOTE=JcNewMe;2167141]Was wondering if anyone has seen her recently?
[URL]http://orlando.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/middle-eastern-beauty-60-specials-last-night-here-new-video-v11-22/8630134[/URL][/QUOTE]She's not even middle eastern.
[QUOTE=OrlandoMan420;2167245]Last I heard she was moving with her bf to another country.[/QUOTE]Out of the country.
[URL]http://youtu.be/ePR4NXLf_GE[/URL]
Gentlemen, Paris contacted me and asked that I relay that she has a room today and tomorrow. After that, she will be leaving Orlando and I'm pretty sure it's permanent this time. She can be reached at 407 607 6866 for details. Her time here has not been the greatest for a plethora of reasons. Treat her right and send her home with a smile on her face. Be safe.
-IS.
I don't even know where to start.
Love the middle eastern accent. Do I now need a passport to go to Atlanta? Atlanta, the newest banana republic. How do you spell "Smyrna"? S-M-why-are-something. So much more.
C3.
[QUOTE=TjmHappy;2167879]Out of the country.
[URL]http://youtu.be/ePR4NXLf_GE[/URL][/QUOTE]
This girl is smokin' hot so be sure to do yourself a favor and see her. I saw her about a week ago out in east Orlando and had a fun time. I was really stunned at how beautiful / cute she was; really an all natural beauty. She is into kissing with LFK and DFK but only offers a CBJ. Mish and doggie were amazing with that tight little body of hers.
I'll have to visit again before she leaves town. Enjoy gentlemen!
[QUOTE=IinnerStrength;2168102]Gentlemen, Paris contacted me and asked that I relay that she has a room today and tomorrow. After that, she will be leaving Orlando and I'm pretty sure it's permanent this time. She can be reached at 407 607 6866 for details. Her time here has not been the greatest for a plethora of reasons. Treat her right and send her home with a smile on her face. Be safe.
-IS.[/QUOTE]
When a provider asks for references how do you get them to them, do you have the old provider call the new provider, do you type up names and phone number and send an email, I'm confused.
I have no problem with a SP asking for references. After all, I have checked her out already, Google the digits, Tineye the pics, try to find legitimate reviews.
If she asks I can throw two or three names of known providers on the phone or if she needs contact info I can do that, too. Email or text. That said, I can't say that any SP actually checks your references. Maybe she does, maybe she is just asking. But, no, I wouldn't ask a friend who I have dated to call a new girl up and say I am all right. I doubt she would do that.
I have learned that several of the ladies that frequent our little neighborhood are acquainted with each other. And they do share intel just like we do. I am OK with that, too. I like to think I treat them with respect and we have fun together.
C3.
[QUOTE=ProMonger1998;2168349]When a provider asks for references how do you get them to them, do you have the old provider call the new provider, do you type up names and phone number and send an email, I'm confused.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=ProMonger1998;2168349]When a provider asks for references how do you get them to them, do you have the old provider call the new provider, do you type up names and phone number and send an email, I'm confused.[/QUOTE]The majority of us ladies want the contact info for the providers you provide as reference. Anyone can call me and say there are Mary Sue and the whole time Mary Sue is sitting behind the Sgt. Desk with her feet propped up down town. I can't speak for anyone else but I personally require your references be of reputable providers that have reviews as well as a web site. Just my thing and I have my reasons.
Much love, Ashley.
Play Safe but Play HARD!
[QUOTE=ProMonger1998;2168349]When a provider asks for references how do you get them to them, do you have the old provider call the new provider, do you type up names and phone number and send an email, I'm confused.[/QUOTE]When you write a review on this site, you are establishing a reference, especially if you are reviewing a lady that advertises on this site. If the SP responds to your posted review with a post of her own saying that it was nice meeting you and hope to see you again, then you can't have a better reference than that. If you are reviewing a BP lady, then provide the link to her ad in the review.
[QUOTE=Mystical0945;2168758]The majority of us ladies want the contact info for the providers you provide as reference. Anyone can call me and say there are Mary Sue and the whole time Mary Sue is sitting behind the Sgt. Desk with her feet propped up down town. I can't speak for anyone else but I personally require your references be of reputable providers that have reviews as well as a web site. Just my thing and I have my reasons.
Much love, Ashley.
Play Safe but Play HARD![/QUOTE]Reviews from the oThER side are not good enough either?
To all the rumors no one would ever have FUN!
TJMHAPPY.
[QUOTE=Camera3;2168254]I don't even know where to start.
Love the middle eastern accent. Do I now need a passport to go to Atlanta? Atlanta, the newest banana republic. How do you spell "Smyrna"? S-M-why-are-something. So much more.
C3.[/QUOTE]
Don't be fooled or be a fool.
Owtist laid out very well how reviews on this site can help to keep everyone safe.
When you post a review on USA Sex Guide it is all or nothing. In some cities, USA is not very popular and there are local guides. I remember writing some reviews for those local guides and they were rejected because I refused to use graphic language. The same is true of the oThER site. Write reviews and get free memberships but be sure to include lots of graphic details. All this encourages is for guys to start making things up. We all know where that leads. Guys spending lots of money and not getting even close to the same results.
This site is not perfect, but it is by far the best available. As someone who has been around awhile, I also think it has gotten better under the administration of Admin2. He refuses to get sucked into a lot of the drama and allows us to present points of view which would not be accepted elsewhere.
Guys -- write your reviews honestly and objectively and always include whether you would return.
Gals -- ask new clients for their USA handle. When they post a review of you, post a follow-up acknowledgement. No details are required. Just acknowledge their visit.
But, remember, just as a jury is the trier of the facts, when reading reviews, be sure to look at previous posts. Reviews by themselves mean nothing. The reliability of the poster behind them means everything.
Be safe.
Exec.
Ladies also keep in mind when getting a call and someone claims to be a member here, to verify with the member via PM. Recently, someone called and gave the handle of a well known senior member, but claimed to have no references. Needless to say I asked for a PM and it never arrived. Confirmed with the senior member it was not him the next day. Some of these guys are harmless flakes, some are LEO and others psychos and address collectors. Always seek references. I've even asked for I'd or a business card at the door in the past. Most seasoned hobbyists know that a seasoned provider is not looking for personal information, but is looking to remain safe and at the same time discreet.
[QUOTE=Camera3;2168629]I have no problem with a SP asking for references. After all, I have checked her out already, Google the digits, Tineye the pics, try to find legitimate reviews.
If she asks I can throw two or three names of known providers on the phone or if she needs contact info I can do that, too. Email or text. That said, I can't say that any SP actually checks your references. Maybe she does, maybe she is just asking. But, no, I wouldn't ask a friend who I have dated to call a new girl up and say I am all right. I doubt she would do that.
I have learned that several of the ladies that frequent our little neighborhood are acquainted with each other. And they do share intel just like we do. I am OK with that, too. I like to think I treat them with respect and we have fun together.
C3.[/QUOTE]The one thing I find absolutely rude and disrespectful is when you give a reference to a provider for THEIR safety and the provider doesn't respond back or even thank you. I know if that gal asks me to verify someone in the future after that I will just ignore the request. You may call it petty or whatever but safety is the main concern. If I am looking out for another provider by giving them reference for a good monger the least they can do is give thanks. Understood the monger is the one with coin but we should be looking out for each other. Its only happened to me twice and both times by someone fairly new to the board. I am sure I am not the only provider that feels this way.
I have no idea what to do with your references. They don't write a book on that subject and my one experience confirming a reference was a fiasco.
[QUOTE=ProMonger1998;2168349]When a provider asks for references how do you get them to them, do you have the old provider call the new provider, do you type up names and phone number and send an email, I'm confused.[/QUOTE]
I had someone ask me for references one time. I understand the concept, but the lady wanted me to send my name, company and two references by email. I wrote back that I did not think it was that safe sending that info out, but left a contact number. She never called back, but we sent a few emails back and forth until I lost interest. It is not that I did not think she was legit, I just did not think it was fair to the SP's I had seen sending both of our information out via email without hearing at least a human voice on the other line. You can gauge a lot of information, although it is not always correct, by how someone talks.
[QUOTE=ProMonger1998;2168349]When a provider asks for references how do you get them to them, do you have the old provider call the new provider, do you type up names and phone number and send an email, I'm confused.[/QUOTE]
Had to post this, how these women lie so uncovincingly, she can't even spell her own supposed nationality.
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Just like snitching. LOL. Do not get me wrong, I do understand however, I have been placed in a situation where a girl did ask me for references. My reply was I wouldn't give your name and number to an unverified individual so you can not expect me to provide information from providers that trust me not to do the same to them.
The point is when a gentleman is looking for a new provider, that provider is as unverified to him as he is unverified to her. To bring in a verification process only involves more people that don't need to be. The simple solution is one that no girl likes, SPENT TIME OFF THE CLOCK! No, I am NOT saying to do anything more than just hang out and decide from there.
TEB.
[QUOTE=Mystical0945;2168758]The majority of us ladies want the contact info for the providers you provide as reference. Anyone can call me and say there are Mary Sue and the whole time Mary Sue is sitting behind the Sgt. Desk with her feet propped up down town. I can't speak for anyone else but I personally require your references be of reputable providers that have reviews as well as a web site. Just my thing and I have my reasons.
Much love, Ashley.
Play Safe but Play HARD![/QUOTE]
OK. I have no problem giving the name and even digits of some of the higher profile SP's I have dated as a reference. That is a badge of honor. I am pretty sure they will give me a good reference if asked, assuming they even remember me after a few days. I always treat a lady like a lady but I do not expect her to recognize my voice. I know one well respected SP that I see from time to time that has entered my phone number in her phone four times, each time with the same key word to help her remember me. I guess she looses a lot of phones.
If a SP asked for my full name, address, real phone number and / or place of employment I am afraid I would just move on down the list. I can't think of a single good reason she needs that much information on my private life.
So, yeah, I agree with you. There is a point where it is just too much info going out for two little reward.
My two cents.
C3.
[QUOTE=Ufo407;2170554]I had someone ask me for references one time. I understand the concept, but the lady wanted me to send my name, company and two references by email. I wrote back that I did not think it was that safe sending that info out, but left a contact number. She never called back, but we sent a few emails back and forth until I lost interest. It is not that I did not think she was legit, I just did not think it was fair to the SP's I had seen sending both of our information out via email without hearing at least a human voice on the other line. You can gauge a lot of information, although it is not always correct, by how someone talks.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=ProMonger1998;2168349]When a provider asks for references how do you get them to them, do you have the old provider call the new provider, do you type up names and phone number and send an email, I'm confused.[/QUOTE]As far as references go I know of one provider who actually called the names and numbers, even making me wait two days as one did not answer. She then stopped all contact with me after never being able to talk to the last provider on the list (this was way back when I started in Orlando, and the list only had three). One provider I know well says she will call another provider she knows well, and believe me if they are good, and have been in the business long enough, they do know each other. One that I called ATF said she did not care one way or another, taking references if offered (not my atf anymore). And finally the one constant is this site. If the provider knows of this site, and your are in good standing, safe bet the reference of your handle goes a long way.
One thing I do not do, no matter how hot a [provider is, is to give out too much info. I am looking for a dream, not a credit application. If my handle, and references are not enough, then it is not, period. Move on.
So it is safe to say that references should be of legit providers, based on an actual session, and not based on some fantasy had alone in the bathroom. The door swings both ways and the same way we expect honesty from our providers, so too should we mongers be honest.
Over the course of six years I've probably seen over 200 gals (I stopped counting after 100). In all these cases I probably had to come up with references less then a dozen times (for various reasons).
The last time I had to supply references was particularly frustrating. The SP in question basically kept requesting more references, saying she could not get in touch, verify, this or that. Finally she reached her magic number of "3" references that she verified to her satisfaction, said her "Oh, thank you, sweetie. You are good!" and we settled on a date. On the very day the date was supposed to happen, she canceled for some or other reason.
From now on, if a SP is not a member of RS2000 or P411 and wants references, I politely say "Thank you" and move on. Not worth the effort.
Another thought. While all SPs pay lip service to references and how it is important for everyone's safety, why would they help you see someone else? "If you can see her, why wouldn't you see me?" I cannot be certain, but I would suspect a lot of my references kept quite for that very reason.
Just my. 02.
JSP.
What should one do about references if you are just starting out?
So what now I am confused and I need help from the team. I get a text from Veronica wanting to see me. Unfortunately I was not available but I had text her back that I would like to see her but on another day. She says no problem. So I send her a text today that I would love to see her. She responds that she would like to see me as well. Happy days and I am so excited that I do the extra clean with shave. Time for session and no Veronica. Just ignores my text like I have never seen her before. I don't get it should I post in the negative reviews or is she just so in demand I should just get over it. Why in the hell would you initiate a date but then blow a monger off. Is it just me? Or am I just in Love.
Thanks,
RLP.
[QUOTE=RLP68;2170919]So what now I am confused and I need help from the team. I get a text from Veronica wanting to see me. Unfortunately I was not available but I had text her back that I would like to see her but on another day. She says no problem. So I send her a text today that I would love to see her. She responds that she would like to see me as well. Happy days and I am so excited that I do the extra clean with shave. Time for session and no Veronica. Just ignores my text like I have never seen her before. I don't get it should I post in the negative reviews or is she just so in demand I should just get over it. Why in the hell would you initiate a date but then blow a monger off. Is it just me? Or am I just in Love.
Thanks,
RLP.[/QUOTE]This girl is beyond help, while her former partner Melbaby is flourishing in the hobby, Veronica is on the highway to hell and burning every bridge { member } in her path. Bad reviews and no shows are a constant with her now. Also found out recently she is driving around in a stolen car which is why she is only doing in calls.
[QUOTE=RLP68;2170919]So what now I am confused and I need help from the team. I get a text from Veronica wanting to see me. Unfortunately I was not available but I had text her back that I would like to see her but on another day. She says no problem. So I send her a text today that I would love to see her. She responds that she would like to see me as well. Happy days and I am so excited that I do the extra clean with shave. Time for session and no Veronica. Just ignores my text like I have never seen her before. I don't get it should I post in the negative reviews or is she just so in demand I should just get over it. Why in the hell would you initiate a date but then blow a monger off. Is it just me? Or am I just in Love.
Thanks,
RLP.[/QUOTE]Stuff comes up. It's life. Give her a chance to explain. If she doesn't then proceed.
[QUOTE=Dtfbigd;2170848]What should one do about references if you are just starting out?[/QUOTE]See someone who is newbie friendly. That's all you can really do.
There are many well known SP's that will see a newb without a reference. Treat her well and then you will have a reference.
Here is another piece of advice. If I were picking a first time date I would pick a well known, well reviewed lady and tell her the truth, uou don't know what you are doing and hope she will teach you. I know a few SP's that would get off on that challenge.
While I am on this subject, one thing I have heard from many SP's is that there are some mongers and hobbiests that act like Jack Stud. I personally think that is stupid. Be yourself. Be nice.
Just my two cents.
C3.
[QUOTE=Dtfbigd;2170848]What should one do about references if you are just starting out?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Dtfbigd;2170848]What should one do about references if you are just starting out?[/QUOTE]The first provider I ever saw asked me for references. I told her I was new and didn't have any. She laughed and said that was fine. I guess if someone was messing with her, they would have had a better reply lined up. I think it also helped that I asked her a couple of stupid questions that no experienced monger would have ever asked.
[QUOTE=Camera3;2171063]There are many well known SP's that will see a newb without a reference. Treat her well and then you will have a reference.
Here is another piece of advice. If I were picking a first time date I would pick a well known, well reviewed lady and tell her the truth, uou don't know what you are doing and hope she will teach you. I know a few SP's that would get off on that challenge.
While I am on this subject, one thing I have heard from many SP's is that there are some mongers and hobbiests that act like Jack Stud. I personally think that is stupid. Be yourself. Be nice.
Just my two cents.
C3.[/QUOTE]Well. I did have a first time encounter a while ago. But it wasn't at all enjoyable so I stopped.
It was so bad that there was a baby in the room in a stroller. I didn't know this til after I laid the donation down and we started. That's when the baby stared crying. I felt so guilty I wanted to leave but I just paid and wasn't going to pay that much for only 15 minutes.
I should probably post a review of my experience for shits and giggles.
But yea, it should be common sense to treat the female with respect.
[QUOTE=Gh2007;2171042]See someone who is newbie friendly. That's all you can really do.[/QUOTE]If you do not have any references just use the name Benjamin Franklin and see if that works.
I have said it a million time, my best reference is to go with my gut. If it doesn't feel right don't do it.
Don't get me wrong I ask sometimes. It is all about how comfortable one make someone feel. Also even though references are something go on just because one person treated such and such way doesn't mean they will do the same for me or vice versa. Thats the YMMV.
Go with the gut instinct.
[QUOTE=Camera3;2171063]There are many well known SP's that will see a newb without a reference. Treat her well and then you will have a reference.
Here is another piece of advice. If I were picking a first time date I would pick a well known, well reviewed lady and tell her the truth, uou don't know what you are doing and hope she will teach you. I know a few SP's that would get off on that challenge.
While I am on this subject, one thing I have heard from many SP's is that there are some mongers and hobbiests that act like Jack Stud. I personally think that is stupid. Be yourself. Be nice.
Just my two cents.
C3.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Dtfbigd;2170848]What should one do about references if you are just starting out?[/QUOTE]Just look for a few of the well known, make a list, and if possible check their websites and reviews. Reading and doing the homework is a good way of getting to 'know' the provider and sheds light on her preferences towards newbies. Also be honest. If you are a newbie say so. She says no, thank her and go down the list. Believe it or not many who ask for references will clear you if you are honest, courteous, and maintain etiquette.
Be safe.
Anybody know any callgirls, BP,SW, or utr in Winter Garden?
Guys and Girls. We had a very nice discussion the other day about how we can use vetting by the girls to establish a member's credibility. Often times many of you indicate that you will only share information with Senior Members. Some girls might let their guards down if someone is a Senior Member.
All this has not been lost on LE. Lately it is obvious that some new members have arrived and are racking up posts by making me too comments or just asking for information.
Remember to always check posting histories before you give out information or ladies before you agree to a special or even to just see someone based upon their Senior Member status.
A2, I would like to ask this publicly since I know that it is not permitted to out someone as LE because how do you know for sure. But, is it permissible to point out someone's posting history?
[blue]Nope, because if they are LE, they will deny it, and 99.9999999% of the time they won't be. Doing what you suggest will just turn the flame throwers on high. This is a [b]FREE[/b] forum and that's cool from a value standpoint, but one of the things it means is that [b]ANYBODY[/b] can start posting.
The advise you post here is good advise. People that aren't already doing this I reckon deserve the Darwinian punishment they are going to get.
Trusted senior members are kind of like what the Supreme Court Justice said about pornography, if you will grant me some license to adapt his words;
"I shall not today attempt further to define the kinds of members I understand to be embraced within that shorthand description ["Trusted Senior Members"]; and perhaps I could never succeed in intelligibly doing so. But I know one when I see one..." -Supreme Court Justice Potter Stewart (mostly)
Everybody is individually responsible for how they evaluate and use, or not use, any information on this forum. I kind of like it like that.
A2[/blue]
I was in the mood to set up something a few days ago and Dallas really seemed to fit the bill. Texted her and she got back to me a short time later asking who I was. I replied (as I usually do when responding to a post from here) this is Eustisflman from usasg.
That was the end of the conversation. I sent another txt a few hours later and then again the next day. Dead Not sure what set her off, but damn. 3 words in my reply and it got as cold as Alaska in Jan. I know that I have been out of the game for a while. Did the rules change?
YMMV.
EFM out.