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Can we add a code for free table shower Tsi table shower included or tsn table shower negotiable or ts20 for always costs 20.
Or can senior member post the AMPs with free or where you talked them into free shower.
Its been on here before but about half the AMPs were open then.
I apologize in advance, but I don't remember names or amounts for this story. Last winter I dreamed I went to VIP in Youngsville and got there at about 8:15 pm. An older, cute woman greeted me at the door, recognized me and let me to a room where another woman, slightly younger with longer hair, took over the massage. After a time, the woman who greeted me at the door asked if I wanted, for a pretty small fee an additional set of hands. She said it was closing time and I was their last customer. So the two of them worked me over, both cfs, CBJ (they changed the cover between turns).
About a month later I thought I had a great idea by arriving at the same time. But no, they were already closed!
This summer I went back in the middle of the day. FS was off the menu!
Do any AMPs stay open very late? 1 pm? I know the non-Asian places like Tomcats and Quality are open late.
[QUOTE=JohnBig93;2211735]Was going to head to lotus until I saw the reviews. Might still go but was wondering how much to tip. At a place like this, no touching, no HE, no nothing, you really are just paying for a massage. So should you even tip or maybe like. 1 or. 2 tip? I usually tip. 4 with a HE, never got FS before.[/QUOTE]When I am just going for a good massage and that is what I get and the attitude is good then I usually tip. 2. I know that the girls generally get less than half the massage fee, the house gets the rest. I was also told by one provider that they generally only get 2-3 customers per day on average. Of course the establishments that have a larger menu are busier and the girls get more customers than they can handle; as attested by all the posts of mongers complaining of interruptions from the door bell, etc. But for the legit places, 2-3 per day seems to be the norm.
I must admit that I am a bit of a soft touch. I generally tip 20% at restaurants if the service provided is good and the server's attitude is good. I know that waiters get sub-minimum wage and the tips are their primary source of income.
[QUOTE=JohnBig93;2211735]Was going to head to lotus until I saw the reviews. Might still go but was wondering how much to tip. At a place like this, no touching, no HE, no nothing, you really are just paying for a massage. So should you even tip or maybe like. 1 or. 2 tip? I usually tip. 4 with a HE, never got FS before.[/QUOTE]2 would be a good tip.
Keep in mind, she provided a full hour of dedicated service to you.
Most likely, she also receive outside of tips in either salary or a portion of the hourly fee.
But in regard to Lotus, at this point they don't even have a TS, which could differentiate it from a real MP.
It seems beyond legit at this point, so honestly if you want a really good massage, you are likely better at a real MP.
(They were just getting the doorbell working while I was there, so perhaps one will come later who knows.).
[QUOTE=LuvMassage;2212100]When I am just going for a good massage and that is what I get and the attitude is good then I usually tip. 2. I know that the girls generally get less than half the massage fee, the house gets the rest. I was also told by one provider that they generally only get 2-3 customers per day on average. Of course the establishments that have a larger menu are busier and the girls get more customers than they can handle; as attested by all the posts of mongers complaining of interruptions from the door bell, etc. But for the legit places, 2-3 per day seems to be the norm.
I must admit that I am a bit of a soft touch. I generally tip 20% at restaurants if the service provided is good and the server's attitude is good. I know that waiters get sub-minimum wage and the tips are their primary source of income.[/QUOTE]I went to Super Relax in Raleigh (the one below a gym where you feel weights are going to drop through the ceiling) a couple of years ago and didn't read any reviews ahead of time, not knowing about this site.
There was no HE at all, I don't remember if I didn't tip at all or just left very little. But what are me mad was that I only found out about the place because they advertised under Escort. And they had lots of pictures of sexy Chinese women in the ad.
[QUOTE=Jquillin;2212199]I went to Super Relax in Raleigh (the one below a gym where you feel weights are going to drop through the ceiling) a couple of years ago and didn't read any reviews ahead of time, not knowing about this site.
There was no HE at all, I don't remember if I didn't tip at all or just left very little. But what are me mad was that I only found out about the place because they advertised under Escort. And they had lots of pictures of sexy Chinese women in the ad.[/QUOTE]All of the AMPs advertise on both backpage and craigslist, many put the same ad under multiple categories, including body rubs and escorts. All of them include lots of pictures of very attractive, very young, asian women. None of them post any pictures of their actual providers. My guess is that over half the actual providers have sailed right on past their late 30's and are not nearly as attractive as the photos in the ads. That is just the way things are. No sense in getting angry about it. From the AMP owner's point of view, if they get more than a handful of extra clients per month as a result of the ads, then the ads have been worth the money.
[QUOTE=LuvMassage;2212310]All of the AMPs advertise on both backpage and craigslist, many put the same ad under multiple categories, including body rubs and escorts. All of them include lots of pictures of very attractive, very young, asian women. None of them post any pictures of their actual providers. My guess is that over half the actual providers have sailed right on past their late 30's and are not nearly as attractive as the photos in the ads. That is just the way things are. No sense in getting angry about it. From the AMP owner's point of view, if they get more than a handful of extra clients per month as a result of the ads, then the ads have been worth the money.[/QUOTE]I see your point, and I should have done more research ahead of time. It's true, I've seen those same ads a bunch of times since. But I do still say it is basically lying on their part. If it had been under Body Rubs not Escort I wouldn't have minded. Same with regular providers. -those in body Rubs are advertising something different than those in escort. So I think I was justified to be unhappy. Also, seemed like a good idea to mention it here.
[QUOTE=LuvMassage;2212310]All of the AMPs advertise on both backpage and craigslist, many put the same ad under multiple categories, including body rubs and escorts. All of them include lots of pictures of very attractive, very young, asian women. None of them post any pictures of their actual providers. [/QUOTE]This place has taken the use of stolen pics to a whole new level. The porn sites' URLs are still on the bottom of the pics!
[URL]http://raleigh.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/massage-therapy-and-bodywork/15883513[/URL]
Finally went to Lotus. As usual for me, on never request HE, or make strong signals for HE, on my first visit other than an erect member under the towel. If offered, that is another story. It is a formula that I am comfortable with. It lets the girls get to know me a bit, know how I tip, know my disposition, then on the third or so trip I make the requests. If I get rebuffed at that point I find somewhere else.
Back to Lotus. This being my first visit, I was pleased to see a young, slender, attractive provider. I'd agree with the 8/10 assessment some of the others have made. She started with hot towels, massaging my back through the towels. She then used oil and hot stones and worked my upper back until my muscles were pudding. She did a good hard massage from calf to neck. On the flip, as reported by others, she kept me covered and her eyes averted. She then did a good job massaging my chest, quads, arms, hands, and feet. Overall, I'd put the massage quality between a 7 and an 8 out of 10.
The ceilings appeared to be about 10'. The walls go all the way to the ceiling. There is a lock on the door in the room I was in. I presume the other rooms were similarly equipped. The light in the corner had a dimmer and she set the lighting low. The ceiling lights are very bright, I wouldn't want them to stay on while I'm trying to relax. There was no sign of any speakers. I don't think they have a music system. The lack of background noise to drown out other sounds might explain some of the provider's reluctance to give HE especially if there is someone else in the building; such as a husband if the other reports are accurate.
I never saw anyone else there other than the provider but I could hear some noises from a back room; I think it was someone on a phone but it was pretty muffled. So I don't know whether it was the "white guy" that others have reported or someone else.
I'll go back but I will wait until I am in need of a good massage. There are other AMPs where HE is readily available but for me they are a much longer drive to get to.
Was in need of a good massage so took my chances with one of the more legit looking places on the list. This spa (#19) is located in a higher rent shopping center than most places, and it has a lot of pedestrian traffic thanks to a grocery store and other busy shops nearby.
Inside, it differs from many AMPs in that it has a set of massage chairs in the large lobby. Also, an older Chinese guy was sitting at the register.
Massage was possibly the strongest I've ever experienced. Even the leg / butt part of the massage was done with maximum pressure. It was good (in a painful way) but wasn't sensual by any means. I found myself losing any interest in seeking more, as I feared what could happen with that kind of hand strength applied. Massage was given with a timer running. So full time was given to the second.
There was a steady flow of clients the coming in and out, both male and female, and the chatter sometimes got distracting. Still it was good for what it was. A strong therapeutic massage.
Stopped by the Super Relax #1 last night. Got there about an hour before they closed and drew a 40 ish thin masseuse.
Gave her the. 70 for the hour and enjoyed a great massage. My favorite part is always the tease before the flip, and she spent plenty of time getting me worked up.
On the flip she got on the table and finished me with the standard HE.
Massage- 7/10.
Attitude- 8/10.
Flip- 7/10.
70 + . 50 tip.
Stay Safe- BAX.
Dreamed I stopped by RR today. Had a great massage with Judy (or Julie? -- hard to tell with her accent). Got an hour massage. I'm not sure how old Judy is, but I would guess 40's. She had a nice figure and an even better attitude. She was good humored and sweet and gave a really nice massage. The table shower she cleaned me all over and smiled at my semi-hardness. She dried me off and then really gave a great massage. I must have been there for at least the full hour (which was. 6). At the end we negotiated another. 6 for HE. I don't think FS is available, but I would guess if it were you would have to bring your own cover.
My litttle friend tells the following tale.
Unhappy with decreasing level of service with Aunt Holly.
Hearing of Vivi retirement, go to Vivi place.
Jing a ling go the jingle bells.
Shrine to Vivi still evident-old glamour shots-no signs of ownership turnover.
Nobody comes to help. Can you hear me now? Turn up the hearing aids or.
More cow bell!
Friend goes somewhere else. Predictable great massage, nothing else.
Great rub.
Door left open.
Friend is open to air.
Hears voices in room-two ladies.
OMG the switcheroo.
New lady much more friendly, looks like ghost of Rose?
Getting close, rests hand over his man rosebud, you ok?
HELL YEAH!
It gets good.
Reach around.
Up on 4's.
Milking.
Flip oil slow down too late.
Eye contact+.
Friendly, enjoys the work+.
No money discussion+.
Patting afterwards+.
Hidden gem.
Why share location? Tired of interruptions.
They don't happen there.
I think I am a pretty smart guy, but too many codes in that "story" for me to follow.