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[QUOTE=Benz1;3939445]You can find this cougar on 199 best mature women Dresses Sexy Images on Pinterest and Ohiowa cougar women.
Looks like the Grand opening of Serenity on 72nd street is making its grand entrance with fake pics.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the heads up. I guess I don't have an appointment tomorrow afterall.
Saw Leslie at Panacea on a Monday. As with the first time, the massage was ok and the HE was outstanding. I got an hour and tipped $ for a total of $. 60. The first time was not a fluke. She's not a 20 y / o spinner to be sure but she goes the extra mile.
[QUOTE=Monger01;3939552]150 hh in your 2nd link. 150? Are you fking kidding me?
That better be Mikki and her pornstar level service for 150 hh.
I hope no one is paying that![/QUOTE]I agree, that price for a half hr massage is way too much. That probably at best only includes a BBBJ. Not paying that for a BBBJ. Happy hunting all.
[URL]http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_e/blonde-bubbly/795098293897[/URL]
Anything on this one? No name that I could see.
[QUOTE=Mongerlian;3939895][URL]http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_e/blonde-bubbly/795098293897[/URL]
Anything on this one? No name that I could see.[/QUOTE]No but. She intrigues me. Has the looks I favor. I have a pending thing going on but. Comms will be established.
BTW this will be my first MP visit EVER. I have always been kind of meh about them because I am a FS type of guy but lately with these girls barely being there or being unreliable at best, fuck it (with exception for Kamilia and MaryJane of course! They are awesome! I will bite on this.
That being said. Any tips for a newbie scrub?
[QUOTE=Mongerlian;3939895][URL]http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_e/blonde-bubbly/795098293897[/URL]
Anything on this one? No name that I could see.[/QUOTE]I saw her not too long ago. She's cute, looks reasonably like her pictures. Massage was okay. For the hhr, I threw down $60 as the "preemptive tip" by request, to give a little push for more than an unenthusiastic carrot waxing. Pretty much a standard massage for 15 m, then on the flip asking her to get comfortable, she held to topless only, and suggesting anything more she said she never does anything more than what she did. Which was an unenthusiastic milking of the carrot. I could maybe understand that at $40 left on the table, but $60 for a hhr, noting that I have been there several times before? Got the job done, but expected a little more. But to be fair, she doesn't have the chest to give a good Russian, tho.
So I'm in a particular mood, anyone got any recommendations on some providers with a set of bolt ons?
[QUOTE=LowKeyg;3939917]No but. She intrigues me. Has the looks I favor. I have a pending thing going on but. Comms will be established.
BTW this will be my first MP visit EVER. I have always been kind of meh about them because I am a FS type of guy but lately with these girls barely being there or being unreliable at best, fuck it (with exception for Kamilia and MaryJane of course! They are awesome! I will bite on this.
That being said. Any tips for a newbie scrub?[/QUOTE]Go in with reasonable expectations. You almost certainly won't get more than a handy and she'll want too much for that. There are a handful of women who will offer a BJ (most covered) and one or two who offer FS. The cost is usually enormous. Decide what you will pay for the experience no matter what she looks like and hold to your decision. This may cause an awkward moment but it will make for a better experience on whole.
For reference, I generally tip as follows (though I do occasionally lose my mind over a REALLY good pair of natural tits):
- 40 hh, 60 hr: A decent massage, a handy, and permitted roaming over clothes is worth doubling the room rate for tip.
- +10 (50,70): topless plus above with roaming (if all I get to do is see tits, it's not going to induce me to tip).
- +20 (60,80): full nude and / or good roaming (nipple licking, FIV, etc.).
- +40 (80,100): BBBJ plus above.
- +100 (140,160): FS plus above (rare and massage tables are not so stable).
So, for me, a standard HE for an hour runs 120 total (room + tip). If she gives me a good BJ, it would be 160 total (room + tip). That's about the highest expectation I have going in.
Some go lower and some go higher. I've had a few women left unhappy when she thought an over-the-clothes grope was worth a lot more than I do. For the most part, however, this gets me what I want. I don't go in wanting more than this will get me (if that makes sense). If the top comes off and the tits are incredible, I'll sometimes push the tip 10 or 20 and drive away kicking myself. If the overall performance is outstanding even if some of the elements are not there, I'll tip up some (Natasha at Panacea for example).
[QUOTE=Bismark;3939837]Saw Leslie at Panacea on a Monday. As with the first time, the massage was ok and the HE was outstanding. I got an hour and tipped $ for a total of $. 60. The first time was not a fluke. She's not a 20 y / o spinner to be sure but she goes the extra mile.[/QUOTE]Was the BJ a BBBJ?
Looks - 6. 5.
Body - 4. 5.
Attitude 8. 5.
She gives a decent massage and is very accommodating. She is a smaller BBW and has a very large belly. Her breast are large and she really enjoys using them. The flip is well above average and the BBBJ is very good. If body does not concern you she could be great for you. I will likely not return as I have to have some attraction to spend any money, easily pull better out of a bar 9 days a week so I like the hobby to get quality and not have to work for it.
Won't be going back there again.
Stopped in for a massage. Door was $. 40 for HH, as usual. Brought to the room and told to leave a tip on the table for my MT. That's a little weird right there. I don't tip my waitress until after the service is done. Why tip before this is done?
I put down another $. 60. (I always take $1. 00 with me and split it the same way, never had an issue). The girl that came in was not real attractive. Not a bbw, but did have a big gut. She took off her top before starting on my back massage. She asked if I like soft or medium pressure. I told her it was up to her, I'm good with either. She liked that, it makes it easier. Lame Massage! Almost no movement. Her hands were seriously almost standing still. Only 5 minutes in she said to go ahead and flip. I'd kind of like a 'massage' with my massage too. She immediately went to work on Big Jim & the twins. Now we're 6 minutes in. She asked for a larger tip already. I jokingly said something about slowing down a little bit or my massage will be over way before my 30 minutes are up. She gave me a pissed off look and told me to flip back over and she'd massage my back. Now she wanted more tip to do both a massage and a HE. It was one or the other, Not Both! I flipped back over, she went back to work on the boys. Now I'm annoyed and nothing is happening. She wouldn't allow me to touch her, even though she had her top removed. We finally decided that this wasn't working and I got up. Terrible Personality! I would NEVER go to see her again and probably won't go back there. She called me a clock watcher, LOL. I'd like my 30 minutes to last 30 minutes. I always bring $1. 00 with me, everywhere I go, I've NEVER had an issue like this greedy woman. If we click, I'll bring more next time.
I know this was not Anna, Chloe or Meghan. I'm not sure what this girls name is. Heavier girl, kind of ratty, dirty blonde, not a very attractive face either.
[QUOTE=DaddyD;3943457]Won't be going back there again.
Stopped in for a massage. Door was $. 40 for HH, as usual. Brought to the room and told to leave a tip on the table for my MT. That's a little weird right there. I don't tip my waitress until after the service is done. Why tip before this is done?
I put down another $. 60. (I always take $1. 00 with me and split it the same way, never had an issue). The girl that came in was not real attractive. Not a bbw, but did have a big gut. She took off her top before starting on my back massage. She asked if I like soft or medium pressure. I told her it was up to her, I'm good with either. She liked that, it makes it easier. Lame Massage! Almost no movement. Her hands were seriously almost standing still. Only 5 minutes in she said to go ahead and flip. I'd kind of like a 'massage' with my massage too. She immediately went to work on Big Jim & the twins. Now we're 6 minutes in. She asked for a larger tip already. I jokingly said something about slowing down a little bit or my massage will be over way before my 30 minutes are up. She gave me a pissed off look and told me to flip back over and she'd massage my back. Now she wanted more tip to do both a massage and a HE. It was one or the other, Not Both! I flipped back over, she went back to work on the boys. Now I'm annoyed and nothing is happening. She wouldn't allow me to touch her, even though she had her top removed. We finally decided that this wasn't working and I got up. Terrible Personality! I would NEVER go to see her again and probably won't go back there. She called me a clock watcher, LOL. I'd like my 30 minutes to last 30 minutes. I always bring $1. 00 with me, everywhere I go, I've NEVER had an issue like this greedy woman. If we click, I'll bring more next time.
I know this was not Anna, Chloe or Meghan. I'm not sure what this girls name is. Heavier girl, kind of ratty, dirty blonde, not a very attractive face either.[/QUOTE]I went there once got a half assed massage and lame ending from Lexi. I said I'd never go back and haven't.
[QUOTE=EdBlanston;3934241]My job has just brought me back to Grand Rapids for at least a couple years, and I'm glad I could celebrate that with a session with Layla late last week. She was easy to contact, and communication was very professional. The logistics of my 60-minute visit were the same as others already posted here. She didn't make this feel like it was a standard session though! She put me at ease right away. She has a great sense of humor and she's even better looking in person than in her impressive pictures. She listened to what I wanted, and she exceeded every high expectation I had going in. Her massage skills were better than many LMTs I've seen, but after the flip is where Layla stands out. Like I said, it was a fantastic session even though it was the first time I have seen her. It definitely won't be the last.[/QUOTE]I totally agree with Blanston's review.
I'm guessing DaddyD wishes he followed the reviews closer instead of walking into Royal. (I think DaddyD saw Angel / Royal)
If you're a senior or Frenz with Benz you can PM me to get a password for extras on round one with Layla or Wynter and not get the usual line of maybe next time.
[URL]http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/need-to-relax-i-got-your-backc/348928812242[/URL]
I don't post often, but had another fabulous appointment with Amy this week! Not much more that can be said that hasn't already, she was a TINY bit late getting there but more than made it up, very hot, just the build that makes me almost drool! Half hour, payed door plus tip and a little extra, she went way over on time. Great massage and awesome flip, topless, and topshelf.
I tried Royal years ago. Similar experience. Lousy massage from not so hot girl who then expected BP full service rates for a topless no touch HE. I never returned and never will.
I sometimes wonder how many morons go there and pay theses rates for lousy service.
[QUOTE=Stonecoldstan;3943548]I went there once got a half assed massage and lame ending from Lexi. I said I'd never go back and haven't.[/QUOTE]
Hey guys,
Hungry here, long time monger-- only been posting for a while.
I have a few UTR's that I like to see, and I've gone to MBD quite a bit over the past year or two. Aside from that though, I like to be pretty spontaneous-- get on the road, pick a place at random and see what kind of girls / menu they have. That being said, where do you think I'll have the best luck of finding good HE's at MP's in the area? I feel like all I hear about are HH, Panacea, Relaxation Station and Wonder. Which would you say you can just walk into and pretty much have the same expereince every time? I like to be spontaneous and just walk into places without worrying about an appointment.
Let me know what you think-- or if there really aren't any places that match my description LOL.
Thanks!
[QUOTE=DaddyD;3943457]She took off her top before starting on my back massage. She asked if I like soft or medium pressure. I told her it was up to her, I'm good with either. She liked that, it makes it easier. Lame Massage! Almost no movement. Her hands were seriously almost standing still. Only 5 minutes in she said to go ahead and flip. I'd kind of like a 'massage' with my massage too. She immediately went to work on Big Jim & the twins. Now we're 6 minutes in. She asked for a larger tip already. I jokingly said something about slowing down a little bit or my massage will be over way before my 30 minutes are up. She gave me a pissed off look and told me to flip back over and she'd massage my back. Now she wanted more tip to do both a massage and a HE. It was one or the other, Not Both! I flipped back over, she went back to work on the boys. Now I'm annoyed and nothing is happening. She wouldn't allow me to touch her, even though she had her top removed. We finally decided that this wasn't working and I got up. Terrible Personality! I would NEVER go to see her again and probably won't go back there. She called me a clock watcher, LOL. I'd like my 30 minutes to last 30 minutes. I always bring $1. 00 with me, everywhere I go, I've NEVER had an issue like this greedy woman. If we click, I'll bring more next time.[/QUOTE]It was good she took her top off to start it. Good, but unfortunately false impression there. If she's going to flip ya 5 minutes in, they need to understand that you can't get a 9-10 minute massage out of it. And pointing that out, no, you're not a clock watcher, FFS. THEY are for trying to get-in-get-out ASAP. Especially when they don't want you even touching them at all when doing that. Yikes.
I think they Can get spoiled by giving a robotic HJ to a guy and sweeping him out in well under 15 m, and get Entitlement Syndrome that that's what's supposed to happen, and you're supposed to be happy, dammit! LOL. Crazy. I've had mostly Very sub-par experiences at Royal.
[QUOTE]I went there once got a half assed massage and lame ending from Lexi. I said I'd never go back and haven't.[/QUOTE]I saw Lexi about a year ago. Is she still working there? My experience with her was good then.
[QUOTE=White300;3937855][URL]http://usaadultclassifieds.nl/classifieds/index.php?view=showad&adid=59642&cityid=222[/URL]
Has anyone tried their "gentlemen services"? The blonde MILF looks tempting.[/QUOTE]I stopped in to check it out, but it looked like a gangster meeting outside. The guys were scary and the women were huge. Sorry, but I left.
[URL]https://cityxguide.com/escorts/your-private-body-connoisseur-12356742[/URL]
Looking for a recommendation here. PM if you like.
[QUOTE=White300;3945184][URL]https://cityxguide.com/escorts/your-private-body-connoisseur-12356742[/URL]
Looking for a recommendation here. PM if you like.[/QUOTE]You will find my brief review of her on post 6524 - then there are a few follow ups.
This ad keeps catching my eye. I asked about it previously but thought I'd ask again.
[URL]http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/specials-with-mya/626832370614[/URL]
[QUOTE=GingerBeard;3946046]This ad keeps catching my eye. I asked about it previously but thought I'd ask again.
[URL]http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/specials-with-mya/626832370614[/URL][/QUOTE]I posted a while back, COMPLETELY fake and not even a remote resemblance!! Flag her fake pics and avoid!
I went to see Anna for a 1 hr massage. . 6 she massage me and then I massage her and then back to me. She said ok flip so the HE was alright and we were done. Should have mentioned before we started she wanted the tip placed on the desk before hand. Tip. 5 she said if I wanted more I would have to bring more. 20's when I left my appointment was only 35 minutes and I paid an hr. Will not repeat.
[QUOTE=Soupy3838;3946483]I posted a while back, COMPLETELY fake and not even a remote resemblance!! Flag her fake pics and avoid![/QUOTE]Ahh ok, that makes sense. I thought you were talking about Mia not Mya.
Thanks for saving me from that decision.
[QUOTE=Toes63;3946616]I went to see Anna for a 1 hr massage. . 6 she massage me and then I massage her and then back to me. She said ok flip so the HE was alright and we were done. Should have mentioned before we started she wanted the tip placed on the desk before hand. Tip. 5 she said if I wanted more I would have to bring more. 20's when I left my appointment was only 35 minutes and I paid an hr. Will not repeat.[/QUOTE]Gone are the days of Amber at Royal, with a CMT quality massage and her Long boney fingers creating an excellent Prostrate massage. Amber always gave the full hour and then some.
I did find a good replacement with a long boney finger, coached her on the right moves and BAM.
[URL]http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/need-to-relax-i-got-your-backc/789614889354[/URL]
[QUOTE=GingerBeard;3947175]Ahh ok, that makes sense. I thought you were talking about Mia not Mya.
Thanks for saving me from that decision.[/QUOTE]Anyone seen this Mya? I have seen Mia at HRH, fun time.
If these are real pics of Mya, would be interested, just wondered if anyone has actually seen her.
[QUOTE=Bismark;3940407]Go in with reasonable expectations. You almost certainly won't get more than a handy and she'll want too much for that. There are a handful of women who will offer a BJ (most covered) and one or two who offer FS. The cost is usually enormous. Decide what you will pay for the experience no matter what she looks like and hold to your decision. This may cause an awkward moment but it will make for a better experience on whole.
For reference, I generally tip as follows (though I do occasionally lose my mind over a REALLY good pair of natural tits):
- 40 hh, 60 hr: A decent massage, a handy, and permitted roaming over clothes is worth doubling the room rate for tip.
- +10 (50,70): topless plus above with roaming (if all I get to do is see tits, it's not going to induce me to tip).
- +20 (60,80): full nude and / or good roaming (nipple licking, FIV, etc.).
- +40 (80,100): BBBJ plus above.
- +100 (140,160): FS plus above (rare and massage tables are not so stable).
So, for me, a standard HE for an hour runs 120 total (room + tip). If she gives me a good BJ, it would be 160 total (room + tip). That's about the highest expectation I have going in.
Some go lower and some go higher. I've had a few women left unhappy when she thought an over-the-clothes grope was worth a lot more than I do. For the most part, however, this gets me what I want. I don't go in wanting more than this will get me (if that makes sense). If the top comes off and the tits are incredible, I'll sometimes push the tip 10 or 20 and drive away kicking myself. If the overall performance is outstanding even if some of the elements are not there, I'll tip up some (Natasha at Panacea for example).[/QUOTE]Beautiful. Thank you dude. Invaluable feedback. Ill try ti deviate to your scale as it seems logical.
FYI no go on the toftt. Every text / call went unanswered. From other reviews I'm ok with this.
Just curious, I've only had one girl here who I did not care for (Leslie) but does anyone know if there are any girls at panaceas that offer more than a topless HJ? I'm changing jobs so my schedule will be changing and will be able to see some of the day shift girls. Any help would be useful. Thanks.
Thanks for the feedback.
[QUOTE=Soupy3838;3946483]I posted a while back, COMPLETELY fake and not even a remote resemblance!! Flag her fake pics and avoid![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=GingerBeard;3946046]This ad keeps catching my eye. I asked about it previously but thought I'd ask again.
[URL]http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/specials-with-mya/626832370614[/URL][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=DerickSaunders;3949439]Just curious, I've only had one girl here who I did not care for (Leslie) but does anyone know if there are any girls at panaceas that offer more than a topless HJ? I'm changing jobs so my schedule will be changing and will be able to see some of the day shift girls. Any help would be useful. Thanks.[/QUOTE]You can't go wrong with Natasha. What don't you like about Leslie, I heard she might be one of the more 'liberal" ladies there?
Yeah not her. Not even close unless she gets major surgery. I'm so baffled as to why I even paid for what I did.
Just stay away from royal.
[QUOTE=Wolverines;3949544]Thanks for the feedback.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Blackfire;3950108]You can't go wrong with Natasha. What don't you like about Leslie, I heard she might be one of the more 'liberal" ladies there?[/QUOTE]Check out my review #6545. She's very rushed when I've seen her, opens her shirt just enough to show her nipples. And when your done she takes the hot towels straight from the heater and right on to your sensitive skin, I'm surprised I didn't get 1st degree burns. This was both times I saw her.
[QUOTE=DerickSaunders;3950566]Check out my review #6545. She's very rushed when I've seen her, opens her shirt just enough to show her nipples. And when your done she takes the hot towels straight from the heater and right on to your sensitive skin, I'm surprised I didn't get 1st degree burns. This was both times I saw her.[/QUOTE]Natasha, while she does put on a very hot show, doesn't do much more than a topless HJ when all is said and done (unless she's been fibbing to me for years). It's the way she teases and acts that makes her so good I think.
Alternatively, I've had a far better time with Leslie than Derick describes. I suspect we are seeing the effects of YMMV here.
[QUOTE=DerickSaunders;3949439]Just curious, I've only had one girl here who I did not care for (Leslie) but does anyone know if there are any girls at panaceas that offer more than a topless HJ? I'm changing jobs so my schedule will be changing and will be able to see some of the day shift girls. Any help would be useful. Thanks.[/QUOTE]I haven't been there in about 6 months but I used to go there a lot before. I always got the vibe the owner kinda set the rule not to do more than HJ. I've probably had 20 to 30 sessions there. Again it was about 6 months ago so maybe it is different now.
Saw Nina at pacific for a hh. Beautiful skinny AA.
Slow and sensual massage that I really enjoyed. Took her time on the massage which was a refreshing experience. Minimal teasing before the flip but that's just me being nit picky.
Lots of teasing on the flip. Followed by a great HE. Non rushed, took her time building. Overall good experience.
Would recommend and will repeat. . 4 +. 6.
[URL]http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/black_caribbean/come-in-and-relax/643465251925[/URL]
Does anyone have any recommendations (other than Mia at HH) for some big naturals?
Nina is one of my favorites. She also looks way hotter than those ad pics.
She will get naked and allows full roaming.
You tip more than I do. I tip 40 for half hour + door fee with he. If I'm paying 80 I'll see an escort for a BBBJ. I guess I'm cheap.
[QUOTE=GingerBeard;3952529]Saw Nina at pacific for a hh. Beautiful skinny AA.
Slow and sensual massage that I really enjoyed. Took her time on the massage which was a refreshing experience. Minimal teasing before the flip but that's just me being nit picky.
Lots of teasing on the flip. Followed by a great HE. Non rushed, took her time building. Overall good experience.
Would recommend and will repeat. . 4 +. 6.
[URL]http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/black_caribbean/come-in-and-relax/643465251925[/URL]
Does anyone have any recommendations (other than Mia at HH) for some big naturals?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Monger01;3952674]Nina is one of my favorites. She also looks way hotter than those ad pics.
She will get naked and allows full roaming.
You tip more than I do. I tip 40 for half hour + door fee with he. If I'm paying 80 I'll see an escort for a BBBJ. I guess I'm cheap.[/QUOTE]01 - I'm with you; I read many of these posts with tipping more than the door fee for HE. I rarely tip more than 40 for massage w / HE even if it's an hr massage - 40 + 40 is a nice deal if she gets naked and allows full roaming. I need to visit her next time I'm in GR.
I meant if I'm paying OVER 80. Obviously door plus 40 is 80 LOL.
[QUOTE=Monger01;3952674]
You tip more than I do. I tip 40 for half hour + door fee with he. If I'm paying 80 I'll see an escort for a BBBJ. I guess I'm cheap.[/QUOTE].
[URL]http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/professional-therapeutic-massa/820223038238[/URL]
This one looks familiar. Now working in a new place. Can somebody remind me what she is all about?
[QUOTE=White300;3955501][URL]http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/professional-therapeutic-massa/820223038238[/URL]
This one looks familiar. Now working in a new place. Can somebody remind me what she is all about?[/QUOTE]Used to go by Beth, off of Plainfield near E Beltline, not far from Wonder. Never saw her (was tempted) but very bad reviews. Lots of promises, lots of rules, etc.