Found this one on SA. But the photo suggest one of our friendly Philly Walkers. Can anyone confirm one way or the other if she is or is not a streetwalker?
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Found this one on SA. But the photo suggest one of our friendly Philly Walkers. Can anyone confirm one way or the other if she is or is not a streetwalker?
I meet Anna on Torresdale and Orthodox. Tall with a nice figure.
I take her to a spot I know and she asks me what is the going rate. I am thinking wow someone brand new to the streets. Then she explains that she normally does backpage and is waiting for her ad to go online. I tell her 20 for a simple car date. She looked sad but agreed. She whips out a cover and says "protection. " I shake my head and she say ok but don't CIM.
Her skills are ok, A little to fast, a little too rough. Not the way I like to start off. About 5 minutes into it she says you know there is a time limit to this.
A few seconds later and I lost interest. I cleaned myself off and dropped her off nearby.
She told me that she does not host, but is familiar with Carlyle and Neshaminy.
I searched her number and it brought up a few ads with her picture but not on BP. Next time I will try her out for FS if her rates are not too crazy.
[QUOTE=Grepel;3033329]Yeah, I'm a nightowl as well. I've done the drive only a couple of times and late (after 11 pm and once at like 2 am) and saw nothing. Is it not worth going at that late a time?[/QUOTE]Those few hours, between 11 pm and 2 am, are most definitely hit or miss. Generally a pretty hot time as far as police patrols. However, there is action to be had. Many times I'd hook up with Kayla near Ontario around then and there's also a decent amount of action by Tioga although it varies. More likely to find someone down the other end, where Kensington turns into Front Street. However, after 2 am, it's an entirely different story, with much talent out. Caveat: My girlfriend moved in with me a few months ago, so any observations are from before then, but I've found this generally to be true over many many years of mongering out there on the K.
[QUOTE=JackKilgore124;3046539]Found this one on SA. But the photo suggest one of our friendly Philly Walkers. Can anyone confirm one way or the other if she is or is not a streetwalker?[/QUOTE]Seen her at the DD on Kensington. That's all I have.
Was driving down torresdale around 4:30 am wasn't expecting to see anything since that area is hit or miss so I see a white woman about 30-40 cute a little chubby but busty at the corner of comly and torresdale, she didn't look like she was waiting for the bus and she looks at me as I pass by so I do a you turn and come by the street she's on and cross slowly and she crossed the street coming to the car, she gets in but paronoid that I'm LEO so I calm her down and pull over on a dark street so I can tell she doesn't do this often as she's very nervous, gives the background story she's on disability and her old man works overnight but pays her no attention and gives her no money so I ask for FS and she asks for 30 but I just decided to get head since I was in a little rush, she asked for a cover so she starts and it's ok I would've bust eventually but she stops saying she broke her jaw before and it hurts after a while sucking says can we just fuck in the back seat but it ain't comfortable and I'm a big guy so I ride around a little but didn't find a good dark spot to do it outside so she suggested doing it in her backyard since her kid is sleep and there's no one in the house next to her so we proceed doing doggy in the backyard nice shot played with her big tits so not long I let loose and she's at ease now she asked for a ride to the gas station at Harbison and torresdale but wanted me to bring her back but didn't have that much time so she hoped out at the corner I'd definitely repeat if I run into her again she's clean smelled good and again not out there much so if anyone is in that area early morning hours she may be out there didn't get a chance to ask for a number.
[QUOTE=JackKilgore124;3046539]Found this one on SA. But the photo suggest one of our friendly Philly Walkers. Can anyone confirm one way or the other if she is or is not a streetwalker?[/QUOTE]Good eye! She definitely has "the look" of a SW. So if you proceed, I'd do it with caution and follow the BP rules to a T.
That is part of the "fun" of SA. Weeding out the pros and UTR girls.
[QUOTE=TripTimes;3046875] About 5 minutes into it she says you know there is a time limit to this.
A few seconds later and I lost interest. [/QUOTE]I agree that there should be a time limit but it works both ways. For. 20 how long should a girl have to go? Of course girls love when a guy busts his nut in half a minute but don't like it if the guy makes her pause or slow down when he is about to cum to prolong the act or flat out just can't cum from doing D or whatever. So what is too long? Should she be expected to go more than 15 minutes if the dude can't finish? I guess this should be negotiated before you start. Like work it out that for. 20 I get head for a minimum of 10 minutes. If I am gong to cum sooner I will slow you down. After the 10 minutes is up I won't slow you down anymore. The date is over as soon as you get me off and if I don't cum in the next 10 minutes the date is over regardless unless you pay more.
Anybody know any hotels with porn I haven't found one yet are there in the Kensington or Northeast area or not too far within 15-20 minutes I'm tired of going to Jersey feel free to pm Me.
[QUOTE=ThaCTJohn;3053710]Anybody know any hotels with porn I haven't found one yet are there in the Kensington or Northeast area or not too far within 15-20 minutes I'm tired of going to Jersey feel free to pm Me.[/QUOTE]Its not that far from the strip. The Hallmark in Cinnaminson is quite close by. It's clean and only about fifteen minutes off the strip. Right across the Betsy. Not at all expensive there either. Get a four hour stay for around forty. Me, I'm just an 'OL Gator.
This is just a heads up to all concerned.
Yesterday 8/30/2016 there was a large vice operation on and around the strip. Now I personally know of at least 16 girls that was taken in and most held till this morning. I have had report totals of 38 - 70.
Now as a man that likes to be as logical as I can, I tend to lean toward the 38 figure. Now, without a doubt that is still a large number. If I'm wrong please correct me as I do have the curiosity of a horny cat.
Just being realistic, I know I have no problem finding ready willing and able women that want to hit the most exciting playground in Philly. I just can't imagine there being 70 blowjobs available on the strip within a normal summer night. Why wasn't I notified? I would have been out there for weeks at a time.
I know there has to be other inquiring minds here also. Crazy thing, I always tell the participants here there are plenty of girls available. Yet this is one of those mysteries I'm unable to figure. Does anybody here have any further information regarding this bust? No matter, and all kidding aside, there is a law presence out there. So we need to be careful. Stay alert. All LEO do not drive the obvious cars you may be used to seeing. Hell some are walking right beside you and you have no idea. I'm serious. So those that enjoy the hunt on foot. Look around you could be strolling with the dream breaker. This is especially directed to all the non locals. The Delaware, Maryland, Jersey, New York visitors must all stay alert to what's going on around you. From past experience I know this began yesterday after 12:00 noon and continued into the evening hours. This will not come to a sudden stop any time soon.
The objective is to reduce the amount of working girls and shake up those that support the activity. Getting rid of the girls is never going to happen. They have been there 50 years and they are getting stronger in numbers not a bit weaker. Ao they will be here another 50 years. I do know there is an element that gets easily shaken up. I believe LEO knows and understands this. I think they thrive on this. It gives them something to show the neighborhood that they are doing something. They place police cars at strategic corners for months at a time while the locals walk right by them and buy whatever they like. Hmmmmmmm. What's wrong with that picture?
Sadly they fail to attack the real source of the prostitution, that being the drug dealing market. As long as the girls can get a fix they will always be there. That is how they survive. That's why the girls go to jail for six months and come out and head right back to doing the only thing they know and what they do best. The girls know they can return to the area and nothing has changed. The same places to cop are still available some with a stronger product.
It has been the history of those sworn to serve and protect to be leery and downright fearful of the drug trade in the Kensington area. So they tend to attack the weaker part of that market being the girls. They walk softly and go home at the shifts end letting someone else handle the problem. It really is what it is.
So knowing all this it is to your advantage to always be alert. Ask questions. Sit back and watch the show. You will be very surprised at the ending. Me, I'm just an 'OL Gator.
Was driving around the stroll around 1:30 am near the old bull dealership and saw a WSW with a little shape (thick is a most for me) so I go around the block and come up buckius she starts walking down towards me hops in introduced herself as Atm (we hooked up once before in the winter but haven't seen her since) I explained we hooked up before and told her her government first name and she calmed down a bit but didn't remember me, I asked for a BJ and offer $25 but she says she usually gets 40 but accepted it because I told her I'd take her back if it isn't enough for her we find a spot near the cemetery near Aramingo but she was high out her mind singing to songs on the radio and laughing uncontrollably then sounding like a kid making noises, I was wondering if she's in any shape to perform but she took care of business good technique deep throating at times playing with the balls I was covered since I'm a little safer these days but wish I wasn't the way it felt with a rubber on I'd have unloaded quicker. On the way back to drop her off same thing singing funny noises etc she says she's better than that obviously what I gave her and wants to become an escort and go to school. I felt bad for her because even though I only seen her once before she had more weight and even though she's a little thick she lost weight since the last time I saw her in the winter.
[QUOTE=Gator145;3056665]
The objective is to reduce the amount of working girls and shake up those that support the activity. Getting rid of the girls is never going to happen. They have been there 50 years and they are getting stronger in numbers not a bit weaker. Ao they will be here another 50 years. I do know there is an element that gets easily shaken up. I believe LEO knows and understands this. I think they thrive on this. It gives them something to show the neighborhood that they are doing something. They place police cars at strategic corners for months at a time while the locals walk right by them and buy whatever they like. Hmmmmmmm. What's wrong with that picture?
Sadly they fail to attack the real source of the prostitution, that being the drug dealing market. As long as the girls can get a fix they will always be there. That is how they survive. That's why the girls go to jail for six months and come out and head right back to doing the only thing they know and what they do best. The girls know they can return to the area and nothing has changed. The same places to cop are still available some with a stronger product.
[/QUOTE]You hit the nail on the head! And wandered into a pet peeve area for me. [I][color=gray]{stepping up on a soapbox}[/color][/I].
You want to stop the girls, then stop the CAUSE = the disease. Point is that dope is such a strong foe that once it gets a hold of a person, it doesn't let go, or not so easily. It's NOT a daily choice, but a disease that gets hold of you and doesn't let go! But we have a terrible rate of true treatment. Only about 10% of those that go into traditional "12-step" treatment" come out fully treated. Treatment that sticks! Why are we wasting our tax dollars and insurance premiums on what is essentially a 90% failure rate?? Seems like the prevailing "attitude" is to blame the victim. "Oh, if they really wanted to 'clean up" they could do it! They just don't try hard enough!" Makes it safe to write "those people" off as dirty, wh*res, or less than human so not worthy of attention or compassion. But a 90% failure rate by the standard treatment? When is it time to say the treatment is a failure and do something else?
But what many fail to understand is that dope alters the brain. Yep, studies show actual physical and chemical changes to the brains of addicts. So you take someone with altered wiring and expect what happened over years of addiction will be cured in a 30-day rehab stint? Yeah, sure, by then the physical "addiction" is over [U]but the brain hasn't had time to rewire or heal.[/U] Who knows how long that takes? 6-months? 12-months? Longer? Some studies suggest 18-mo minimum. Then on top of that you have to overcome a bunch of problems that likely lead the person into addition if the first place, Oh WAIT! Let's blame the victim again - "They didn't need to put that stuff in their body! It's their fault!" Well maybe they did take dope and set out to become an addict? Perhaps they got pressured into it by a friend? Maybe they were too young to truly understand the consequences? Maybe that is a way someone uses to keep a girl dependent? Maybe it was a way to escape a hard life, poverty or abuse?
But you run a person through a "treatment program" and then toss them back out into the environment where they came from. A lot of addicts no longer have supportive families because they have lied, stolen, cheated and done everything to their family and the family has take the "tough love" approach. So where is a newly "treated" girl going to go when she gets out? Right back into the environment or new "family" that supported her drug use! So she wanders into the environment where there are many of the "triggers" for her to reuse and any wonder that she relapses? Oh WAIT! "Again that's her fault! She was clean and if she really wanted to stay clean. ".
So yeah, its her fault. An altered brain that hasn't healed, perhaps emotional issues that haven't been resolved and dumped back into the same environment with the same "support" system that encouraged and enabled her drug use! Yep! Is she really wanted to be clean she would over come all of THAT on her own! After all 10% of the people that get treatment overcome all of that, why can't she?
So yeah, there is no solution to the drug problem because the problem is we see addicts as less than human and we toss a failed treatment "system" at them and then expect miracles. Dope is a terrible disease and until we see it as such, have compassion for its victims and offer adequate treatment that works, drug use will persist.
Can you do you part and adjust your views?
[QUOTE=CephlapodLove;3057549]You hit the nail on the head! And wandered into a pet peeve area for me. [I]{stepping up on a soapbox}[/I].
You want to stop the girls, then stop the CAUSE = the disease. Point is that dope is such a strong foe that once it gets a hold of a person, it doesn't let go, or not so easily. It's NOT a daily choice, but a disease that gets hold of you and doesn't let go! But we have a terrible rate of true treatment. Only about 10% of those that go into traditional "12-step" treatment" come out fully treated. Treatment that sticks! Why are we wasting our tax dollars and insurance premiums on what is essentially a 90% failure rate?? Seems like the prevailing "attitude" is to blame the victim. "Oh, if they really wanted to 'clean up" they could do it! They just don't try hard enough!" Makes it safe to write "those people" off as dirty, wh*res, or less than human so not worthy of attention or compassion. But a 90% failure rate by the standard treatment? When is it time to say the treatment is a failure and do something else?
Can you do you part and adjust your views?[/QUOTE]I agree 100% with your logic CL. It's exactly what I have been saying for years. As long as there is a source for scoring some type of drug there will be a source for scoring the working girl. Our local government has the neighborhoods so duped telling them they are doing something and in reality they are doing nothing to resolve the issue. They pick and choose the problems they attack in drug riddle neighborhoods. To verify that, look at all of the drug related murders and shooting in the areas they patrol. Happens within blocks of where they are supposed to be.
Much of that has to do with the people that run the "recovery / Halfway houses". There is a definite financial interest to do nothing. Check out how many of these houses are right in the heart of Kensington. Duhhhhh! Right at Kensington and Cambria for instance. The addicts and working girls love these places. Not to mention Levittown has more of the subsidized houses available to anyone that wants to go.
It's dollars and cents.
The government does not want the problem to go away. If they did, the resources are available to make that happen. So they snow ball the area residents into thinking they actually are doing something.
Case in point. How long has it been since the tranny cops have been stationed at Somerset? A good while. At any given time I guarantee anybody can go ten feet from them and buy pussy and drugs. They just go hand in hand.
I once read an article that stated a 98% relapse rate with "program treated" addicts. Well it only stands to reason with that type of relapse rate that is also the programs failure rate.
I once had an interesting conversation with a girl and she was explaining to me about all the do gooders that want to "help" her get clean. She came right out and said she has no interest in getting clean. Said she loves getting high. Loves the feeling. Likes not having any responsibility.
Now, that's not to say all the working girls feel that way. But that sentiment does exist.
So until the real government steps in and resolves the true reason the prostitutes are on the Ave they will always be there. The enforcers that patrol these areas are pretty much about as useless as tits on a bull.
Our favorite girls will continue to stroll the Ave. They may not be exactly where we are accustomed to seeing them. But they are very close by. These same girls will continue to date the same cops that locked them up last night. It's all interconnected. The drugs, the cops, the girls, the councilmen, town watch all of it. There is a connection of responsibility.
The drug and streetwalker issue crept up on this city so fast the government had no idea what happened. While they was waiting to get out of office so the next guy could deal with it, it got bigger.
Now we are faced with a bunch of vice running around trying to round up working girls so it appears on the outside they are attacking the problem. The reality is they are part of the problem for not doing their job in the first place.
So tonight Thursday is another vice night. Lets see how much of the real problem they solve. Me, I'm just an 'OL Gator.
[QUOTE=Gator145;3056665]This is just a heads up to all concerned.
Yesterday 8/30/2016 there was a large vice operation on and around the strip. Now I personally know of at least 16 girls that was taken in and most held till this morning. I have had report totals of 38 - 70.
Now as a man that likes to be as logical as I can, I tend to lean toward the 38 figure. Now, without a doubt that is still a large number. If I'm wrong please correct me as I do have the curiosity of a horny cat.
Just being realistic, I know I have no problem finding ready willing and able women that want to hit the most exciting playground in Philly. I just can't imagine there being 70 blowjobs available on the strip within a normal summer night. Why wasn't I notified? I would have been out there for weeks at a time.
I know there has to be other inquiring minds here also. Crazy thing, I always tell the participants here there are plenty of girls available. Yet this is one of those mysteries I'm unable to figure. Does anybody here have any further information regarding this bust? No matter, and all kidding aside, there is a law presence out there. So we need to be careful. Stay alert. All LEO do not drive the obvious cars you may be used to seeing. Hell some are walking right beside you and you have no idea. I'm serious. So those that enjoy the hunt on foot. Look around you could be strolling with the dream breaker. This is especially directed to all the non locals. The Delaware, Maryland, Jersey, New York visitors must all stay alert to what's going on around you. From past experience I know this began yesterday after 12:00 noon and continued into the evening hours. This will not come to a sudden stop any time soon.
The objective is to reduce the amount of working girls and shake up those that support the activity. Getting rid of the girls is never going to happen. They have been there 50 years and they are getting stronger in numbers not a bit weaker. Ao they will be here another 50 years. I do know there is an element that gets easily shaken up. I believe LEO knows and understands this. I think they thrive on this. It gives them something to show the neighborhood that they are doing something. They place police cars at strategic corners for months at a time while the locals walk right by them and buy whatever they like. Hmmmmmmm. What's wrong with that picture?
Sadly they fail to attack the real source of the prostitution, that being the drug dealing market. As long as the girls can get a fix they will always be there. That is how they survive. That's why the girls go to jail for six months and come out and head right back to doing the only thing they know and what they do best. The girls know they can return to the area and nothing has changed. The same places to cop are still available some with a stronger product.
It has been the history of those sworn to serve and protect to be leery and downright fearful of the drug trade in the Kensington area. So they tend to attack the weaker part of that market being the girls. They walk softly and go home at the shifts end letting someone else handle the problem. It really is what it is.
So knowing all this it is to your advantage to always be alert. Ask questions. Sit back and watch the show. You will be very surprised at the ending. Me, I'm just an 'OL Gator.[/QUOTE]Depending how wide of an area they were sweeping and for how long, that number could be close to the 70 range. I've seen and counted over 30 numerous times just doing one round trip down the strip. Grant it, only a third of that (if that) I would try to pick up, but the numbers are out there.
[QUOTE=LittleConner;3057925]Depending how wide of an area they were sweeping and for how long, that number could be close to the 70 range. I've seen and counted over 30 numerous times just doing one round trip down the strip. Grant it, only a third of that (if that) I would try to pick up, but the numbers are out there.[/QUOTE]I haven't done the count in quite some time. So if you say that then Ill kind of go with your knowledge. With a lot of skepticism. I've seen numerous girls myself. I would tend to lean toward the 30 number on almost any given day or night. But 70? Hell they would be bumping into each other. I have noticed when these fetes are pulled off LEO tends to stick to the hotspots on the Ave. They are looking for Brownie points with the neighbors. Not something they can get city wide. I could be wrong but I doubt they get over to the Aramingo area or Rhawn street, Torresdale. I would think that would be spreading their resources a bit thin to accomplish their goal. Now, this is not at all fact just my observation. Me, I'm just an 'OL Gator.
Hey all,
I am fairly new to the hobby ( 1 year), and I have had no experiences with street girls. I am up near Allentown but the action up here is minimal (except Platinum Plus, but that place is hot). And I'm a total pervert who likes younger girls, around 18-24 years old. Are any of the street girls in Philly around that age? Also, how do you pick them out from random pedestrians? Just from clothing?
Hey all,
I am new to the hobby ( 1 year) but I have not had any experiences with street girls. I am also a bit of a perv who likes 'them young, 18-22 range, nothing under 18 obviously. Are there any street girls that age in Philly? I'm up in Allentown but there's nothing up here except Platinum Plus, which is kinda hot right now.
Also, how do you recognize them? Just by their clothing?
Also, any etiquette guide on this forum? I know the etiquette for escorts. But I don't know squat when it comes to street girls.
[QUOTE] =Gator145;3056665]This is just a heads up to all concerned. [/QUOTE]- Gator- Thanks fior taking the time for such a comprehensive and informative post. Be safe.
So I too first thought the number 70 was alot. Then I thought about it like this. What if the girls were in pockets of 10 per group. Yeah, I could see there being 7 pockets or areas along the K stroll where there could be 10 girls around each = 70. More realistically, I wouldn't be surprised if 40-50 got picked up. In any case, I was out yesterday, and again this afternoon. I haven't seen it this dead. Ever! Literally there was not even one SW south of Allegheny for 2 passes yesterday and today wasnt any better. I hung around Huntington station for a solid hour yesterday and did not see one! Be safe out there guys.
[QUOTE=XcRunner2414;3059106]Hey all,
I am new to the hobby ( 1 year) but I have not had any experiences with street girls. I am also a bit of a perv who likes 'them young, 18-22 range, nothing under 18 obviously. Are there any street girls that age in Philly? I'm up in Allentown but there's nothing up here except Platinum Plus, which is kinda hot right now.
Also, how do you recognize them? Just by their clothing?
Also, any etiquette guide on this forum? I know the etiquette for escorts. But I don't know squat when it comes to street girls.[/QUOTE]There are plenty of resources around here (USASG) to help you get an education as an education is what you need (stroll maps, rules 2 keep you safe, posts with intel on girls, locations, prices etc.) . You are smart to come here and ask questions because you can learn here. The other option is that IF you wander on to the stroll uneducated, the street will do the education for you! That is known as learning by the School of Hard Knocks!
So find on the home page, the link in the left column, called "22 Rules... " There are actually more of them, two or three posts worth. In those rules, most of your questions will be answered. And to give you a teaser in answering your question: Clothing could be a factor, but not always, what IS the determinant is "the look. "
Now don't be afraid to read the rules and MEMORIZE THEM! When you get out there the street does not wait for you to remember, it just jumps up & bites you! Once you have the rules down cold then do what I did as a newbie: drive the strolls for several months to get a lay of the land. You MUST know where the girls are, when the speed limits change, where you can turn, where you can pull over, where NOT to pull over, where LE hides, how to identify a "working girl," what constitutes 'the look,' How to ID a decoy, what to do when one has an LE encounter, etc. [b]Mongering looks easy, successful, long-term SAFE mongering is anything but easy![/b]
Oh and you mentioned you already knew the score for escorts, really? Read the "Rules for BP Mongering" and I bet you learn a thing or two.
Once you have read, memorized and done some dry runs, come back here with any specific observations and questions. I'm sure someone here will be glad to help.
Good luck & Stay safe!
[QUOTE=Mackeral1;3060232]So I too first thought the number 70 was alot. Then I thought about it like this. What if the girls were in pockets of 10 per group. Yeah, I could see there being 7 pockets or areas along the K stroll where there could be 10 girls around each = 70. More realistically, I wouldn't be surprised if 40-50 got picked up. In any case, I was out yesterday, and again this afternoon. I haven't seen it this dead. Ever! Literally there was not even one SW south of Allegheny for 2 passes yesterday and today wasnt any better. I hung around Huntington station for a solid hour yesterday and did not see one! Be safe out there guys.[/QUOTE]I went through this morning. Last Sunday there were 30+ girls. Today, there were about 20 girls, but the quality was really bad.
Today, I was circling around K and Somerset to K and Huntingdon. If one is into women of color, there's action on K itself. Not a fan of carplay.
[QUOTE=LittleConner;3061397]I went through this morning. Last Sunday there were 30+ girls. Today, there were about 20 girls, but the quality was really bad.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=LittleConner;3057925]Depending how wide of an area they were sweeping and for how long, that number could be close to the 70 range. I've seen and counted over 30 numerous times just doing one round trip down the strip. Grant it, only a third of that (if that) I would try to pick up, but the numbers are out there.[/QUOTE]You can see every arrest made in Philadelphia. [URL]http://www.philadelinquency.com//courtwatch/allarrests[/URL] - If you are only interested in Prostitution, put "prom" (w / out the quotes) and the it will resolve to Prom Pros. Promoting prostitution, most hookers (inmates in house.) sometimes you'll get a pimp or manager.
[QUOTE=Mackeral1;3060232]So I too first thought the number 70 was alot. Then I thought about it like this. What if the girls were in pockets of 10 per group. Yeah, I could see there being 7 pockets or areas along the K stroll where there could be 10 girls around each = 70. More realistically, I wouldn't be surprised if 40-50 got picked up. In any case, I was out yesterday, and again this afternoon. I haven't seen it this dead. Ever! Literally there was not even one SW south of Allegheny for 2 passes yesterday and today wasnt any better. I hung around Huntington station for a solid hour yesterday and did not see one! Be safe out there guys.[/QUOTE]Down there snooping around on Friday morn to the afternoon. It did look uncharacteristically like a ghost town. The ones that were out I aint touchin. I made several passes since I was already there. Went up Torresdale. There was a nice one standin by the church. Her bp name is rachel. says she is on bp but lost her phone. dang girl wanted bp prices in the streets. politely asked her to vacate my vehicle.
[QUOTE=Ethol;3062054]Down there snooping around on Friday morn to the afternoon. It did look uncharacteristically like a ghost town. The ones that were out I aint touchin. I made several passes since I was already there. Went up Torresdale. There was a nice one standin by the church. Her bp name is rachel. says she is on bp but lost her phone. dang girl wanted bp prices in the streets. politely asked her to vacate my vehicle.[/QUOTE]This [POST=2713889][b]Rachel[/b][/POST]? (link).
[QUOTE=Kenbenz;3062112]This [POST=2713889][b]Rachel[/b][/POST]? (link).[/QUOTE]Rachel had black hair. About 5'6 or 7, petitish. Standing at the first church on Torresdale after K Ave. Not the one in ur Rachel link.
JCM2767 Clear your mail box. Can't send a message.
Me, I'm just an 'OL Gator.
[QUOTE=XcRunner2414;3059106]
Also, how do you recognize them? Just by their clothing?
[/QUOTE]I was out cruising around over the holiday weekend and as I was doing my own personal "mental gymnastics" remembered this question.
Let me say this. As I was looking I was keenly aware of how much my "experience" fit into looking at who was available and who to pass by.
Bottom Line: If you see a girl dressed the way Hollywood portrays hookers, then that is most likely a decoy and I would NEVER approach her! If she stands out as compared to the rest of the girls out there or is TGTBT, then proceed with extreme caution! Now I know some dudes like the thrill of tempting fate and playing with fire. Talking to a likely decoy and seeing if they can "out" her as a cop or just talk and get away without doing anything illegal. I figure LE is gunna arrest ya whether guilty or not and let the lawyers work it out, so Ill not play that game.
But dress as a way to spot them? Hmmm, I guess that is part of it. I saw girls and instantly recognized the body type and clothes as a girl chasing meds. Then there was the way they were walking, what they were doing and finally the look. Was able to do that assessment from 1/4-mile away too. But that just goes to show what the numbers of hours I have put in on the streets has done to sharpen my eye.
So glean what one can from the the posts here, but give yourself time to observe and learn on the streets!
[I]Mongering looks easy, good, consistently safe mongering is anything but easy![/I]
CL.
Good advice, from my experience street walkers will give you eye contact back if you are looking at them from your car. A normal lady will definitely not. Also, SW is considered the lowest form of making money because they are taking the highest risk of catching a STD, getting hurt by a John or robbed by a John. These are very desperate addicts who will do something for. 20 Their rates will be at least 60% less than an incall. If the lady looks like a million bucks, trust me she is a plant and there will be a Philly cop within a 2 block radius ready to catch the John. One has to consider if a lady looks like a million bucks what is she doing there, which leads to a setup. Also, another thing for me is that a SW verbally articulates like a street person. Keep in mind that the odds are the SW has already been arrested.
[QUOTE=CephlapodLove;3063654]I was out cruising around over the holiday weekend and as I was doing my own personal "mental gymnastics" remembered this question.
Let me say this. As I was looking I was keenly aware of how much my "experience" fit into looking at who was available and who to pass by.
Bottom Line: If you see a girl dressed the way Hollywood portrays hookers, then that is most likely a decoy and I would NEVER approach her! If she stands out as compared to the rest of the girls out there or is TGTBT, then proceed with extreme caution! Now I know some dudes like the thrill of tempting fate and playing with fire. Talking to a likely decoy and seeing if they can "out" her as a cop or just talk and get away without doing anything illegal. I figure LE is gunna arrest ya whether guilty or not and let the lawyers work it out, so Ill not play that game.
But dress as a way to spot them? Hmmm, I guess that is part of it. I saw girls and instantly recognized the body type and clothes as a girl chasing meds. Then there was the way they were walking, what they were doing and finally the look. Was able to do that assessment from 1/4-mile away too. But that just goes to show what the numbers of hours I have put in on the streets has done to sharpen my eye.
So glean what one can from the the posts here, but give yourself time to observe and learn on the streets!
[I]Mongering looks easy, good, consistently safe mongering is anything but easy![/I]
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[QUOTE=CephlapodLove;3063654]I was out cruising around over the holiday weekend and as I was doing my own personal "mental gymnastics" remembered this question.
Let me say this. As I was looking I was keenly aware of how much my "experience" fit into looking at who was available and who to pass by.
Bottom Line: If you see a girl dressed the way Hollywood portrays hookers, then that is most likely a decoy and I would NEVER approach her! If she stands out as compared to the rest of the girls out there or is TGTBT, then proceed with extreme caution! Now I know some dudes like the thrill of tempting fate and playing with fire. Talking to a likely decoy and seeing if they can "out" her as a cop or just talk and get away without doing anything illegal. I figure LE is gunna arrest ya whether guilty or not and let the lawyers work it out, so Ill not play that game.
But dress as a way to spot them? Hmmm, I guess that is part of it. I saw girls and instantly recognized the body type and clothes as a girl chasing meds. Then there was the way they were walking, what they were doing and finally the look. Was able to do that assessment from 1/4-mile away too. But that just goes to show what the numbers of hours I have put in on the streets has done to sharpen my eye.
So glean what one can from the the posts here, but give yourself time to observe and learn on the streets!
[I]Mongering looks easy, good, consistently safe mongering is anything but easy![/I]
CL.[/QUOTE]For me the joy also includes actually spotting them and not letting them know you have done so. Sooner or later if you make the loops they will make some aggressive move for you to see them LOL.
The stroll seemed back to normal Wednesday night after 11:30.
Saw action from the bull dealer to Allegheny Ave. There were some at the other end on Jasper by Sargent but that area seems hot right now.
Met Kelly with short black hair at the corner of Little Lou's around 1:30. Never saw here before.
Medium height & built, nice booty.
The TS were also out in full force from Little Lou's to the bull dealer.
Also a couple zombies, one who was standing, eyes wide shut, with a cig. In her mouth.
There were bike patrols at the 7-11 and a couple of cars before 11:30.
After 12 I saw 0 LE.
Great link for info. Welcome to the board. TT.
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Hey guys pretty new to this.
Went out for a stroll Thurs for the first time unforantely on foot. I'm assuming it's easier to get in the mix if you were driving. Anyway it was pretty late seemed like most of were sleep or way too zombied. Any advice? And is there a rules for SW.
[QUOTE=DarkSoulo;3069054]Hey guys pretty new to this.
Went out for a stroll Thurs for the first time unforantely on foot. I'm assuming it's easier to get in the mix if you were driving. Anyway it was pretty late seemed like most of were sleep or way too zombied. Any advice? And is there a rules for SW.[/QUOTE]Welcome to the threads! Glad you could join us and thanks for the post! Hope it is the first of many.
Also kudos for asking questions and asking about rules and resources! It is smart to get an education from those that have gone before as the street is always willing to "teach" and those lessons can be harsh.
There ARE rules for SW's and any other kind of mongering one wishes to do. If you look on the front / main page of this site, look in the left hand column for a link to the "22 Rules for Street Walkers" That is kind of a mis-statemet as there are three posts in that link: the first AND the THIRD post have valuable "rules" for street pick ups. I think many miss the third post, which is a shame as good advice there too!
Also the point of posting here for most is to leave a record for others to find and use to get educated. Otherwise the threads are nothing more than testosterone: "Oh, look at what I banged!" So the history here is important and valuable. So I suggest going back on this SW thread and reading the last 6 months of posts. Yeah, sure, it will take some time and might take several sessions. But you want safety or you want easy?
My Advice? At the very minimum read those Rules until you have them internalized. When Sh*T goes down on the street, one doesn't have time to think back, now what was rule 13. So read them AT LEAST 3-times, maybe 3 times over three days. Second, recon, Recon, RECON! When I started I did recon for 3-months before making my fist scoop. One needs to know not only where the girls are likely to be found, who is likely out and when BUT where does LE hang out? When? Where do they hide? Where are they RIGHT NOW when you are going to make your scoop? What does a decoy look like? Where are places one can turn to make a scoop? What are the escape routes? Where might one take the girl for a date? And much more.
The point is that this is a very risky game. How you choose to manage risk is up to you. I prefer to manage risk through knowledge rather than avoid it through ignorance (lack of education).
Another point which you have a good start on. WHEN IN DOUBT: ASK QUESTIONS! When I started I asked a bunch of rookie questions. But because it was clear I had read the forums and wasn't asking a question that had been answered 4 posts prior, I found many helped! So read and ASK! Lots of experienced gents here willing to help those who give back and aren't just one-ways.
So Good luck! Happy Hunting!
CL
[I]Mongering looks easy, good, consistently safe mongering is anything but easy![/I]
I saw this white chick with a big booty. Short hair. Very stylish hair style. Like combed to one side. Probably early 30's. Had few tattoos. On her neck as well. Was around tioga. Went in and out around this shady looking house on k and Atlantic. She then went on Ontario and literally like vanished LOL couldn't find her.
If anyone got any info or something let me know guys.
[QUOTE=CephlapodLove;3069891]...Another point which you have a good start on. WHEN IN DOUBT: ASK QUESTIONS! When I started I asked a bunch of rookie questions. But because it was clear I had read the forums and wasn't asking a question that had been answered 4 posts prior, I found many helped! So read and ASK! Lots of experienced gents here willing to help those who give back and aren't just one-ways. So Good luck! Happy Hunting![/QUOTE]Thanks. I'd like to ask a follow-up question about something the Original Poster stated. He said that he was / is on foot.
My question is, what [I]are[/I] you supposed say to the SW when you are on foot? When in a car, you could ask "Do you want a ride?" and be safe, because you are asking a perfectly legitimate, legal question: if someone wants a ride, or not.
But if you are on foot, you can't ask "Do you want a ride?" So what would you ask / say, to initiate contact, in the on-foot situation?
[QUOTE=HeJova;3072047]Thanks. I'd like to ask a follow-up question about something the Original Poster stated. He said that he was / is on foot.
My question is, what [I]are[/I] you supposed say to the SW when you are on foot? When in a car, you could ask "Do you want a ride?" and be safe, because you are asking a perfectly legitimate, legal question: if someone wants a ride, or not.
But if you are on foot, you can't ask "Do you want a ride?" So what would you ask / say, to initiate contact, in the on-foot situation?[/QUOTE]Ask her if she would like to give you a piggyback ride.
DarkSoulo. I would try to be more informative than critical. Let's be realistic with your plight. You are on foot, you see a girl you would like to approach. You are not sure how to handle the situation to accomplish your goals.
The stroll is no place for a novice to be alone for any reason. Anything can and will happen. Especially to someone that has no idea how to handle a simple encounter let alone a hostile one. Rest assured my friend, people you don't even see out there are sizing you up for some type encounter. Just to set you up. One may ask for a cigarette, a light, change, directions or any of a dozen other things to put themselves in your space. What seems innocent to most can be a well thought out plan to separate an unsuspecting transients from their cash or any valuable they may possess. Walking in a high crime area with no other motive than to get a BJ is not a well thought out plan at all. This goes for the seasoned monger as well as the novice. Do you think before you attempted this venture you should have figured out your game plan? Maybe what to say or how to handle rejection if you have made an error in judgement, as we all have. Always keep in the front of your mind this one thought. If you don't have or lose control of any situation, then you are in danger. If you don't remember anything else I tell you, remember that. It is up to you to take care of you out there. Going to LEO for any bad encounter out there is not an option. The locals know that and use it to their advantage. First thing LEO will ask is what you are doing there. Which you don't legally have to answer. They will still ask. Again please don't take this as criticism. Not meant to be that. More informative than critical.
Now lets get past the many dangers one may face when on. Foot. If you are still intent on being on foot then you need a plan that will work.
You can always approach a girl with the same methods the locals use to approach you and share your space. That is ask for a light, offer a smoke which most will accept with great pleasure etc. Can always ask if she would like to get a soda and a burger as most girls are also hungry. Ask if she would like to hang out. Just a simple hello can also put you within their space. Everything I mention here is perfectly legal and acceptable public behavior. Once you have their attention they will get into your space. They will want to see what else you have to say. Watch body language. See if they smile. Do they move toward or away from you. Are they social or anti social. The main thing is never ever approach them as if they are a working girl. If you are wrong it could get you in a lot of trouble. Never offer money for anything but to buy them food or drink. If they are working they will come right out and tell you most of the time. They will more than likely say they are trying to make money. Build your own confidence. A confident monger is a secure monger. With out confidence you will never get what you are after out there. You can PM me anytime and I will respond within a short period. There are a bunch of members here with a boatload of knowledge. Most will share if you contribute to the board also. Take your time. Get to know a few of the members. Many are great guys once you get to know them. Last and easiest is this. If you have a phone with video capabilities. Figure out your approach to a girl you may never have met. Record yourself using that approach. Then review the video and see if you find yourself believable or laughable. If not tweak it as necessary. Once you approve your own approach then you will be more confident and secure. I hope this helps you somewhat sir. Keep asking questions. Me, I'm just an 'OL Gator.