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[QUOTE=SunMoonStars11;5878592]Just curious, what is the most you gents have dished out for a beautiful baby? Mine has been 600. I'm considering one for 1 k. It's a lot but it may be worth it.[/QUOTE]The most sugar I have poured is when I used to do allowances. I can't say what it came out to per date exactly. But my budget was about 10k+ a month for a few years. Maybe more as I had maybe 6 girls on allowance at my peak. So anywhere from $$$ to 1k per date depending on the month. When Obama came in is when I dropped to my $ a date. But at the time I was averaging 25 dates a month. Still pricey. Just to veer a little. Even when the girls did live up to their agreed upon # of trips to the FC per monthly allowance, it was always on my mind and also stopped me from seeing other girls just so they could fill their quota.
Thinking about all this has triggered my first sugar experience. Thirty two years ago I started dating the x gf of a rock icon. She was down and out. He had kicked her to the curb and left her with nothing. Met her off a personal ad in the LA Weekly. Paid like $600 a month for 6 months. We fucked every day, never missed a day. I didn't even consider it sugaring. It ended when she called my wife and said she was stealing me away from her. Broke up with her the next day (the gf that is). Stayed married for 7 more years.
This girl I saw for a couple of months. We had great chemistry / interactions in all ways. Single mom, an esthetician, not too smart, model quality looks. Slender, tall, sexy, hot. Definitely had an older man kink. We got to the FC only once, I paid her 600 and she got a room at a coastal resort that cost another 600. The sex was great, she had the most gorgeous vag, with extremely edible labia, and puffy nipples on those small but firm boobs. She got into it when we f*d and definitely got off. Those who frequented the site for OC may recognize the photos. She had been a kept woman, but was being cut loose by her SD and was really looking for more than I could provide. I haven't seen her on there since before COVID, I guess she found her whale.
[QUOTE=FirstClass1;5881865]This is what I love about sugar dating. A high mileage drugged-up street walker or pot bellied HX pro would demand. Not ask for, demand - 200-300 for a 15 to 30 minute session with zero to little passion or chemistry. Meanwhile you can have a gorgeous girl who's into you for a whole week and fuck her however you want, for as much and as long as you want, with attraction, passion and desire.[/QUOTE]Totally agree that the best part of SB versus HX pros is the passion aspect you can have with a nice SB you vibe with.
Hi all. I've had pretty good luck finding SB's via Seeking in the LA area. Just wondering. Are there any other sites that are as good or even close? I tried [URL]sugardaddy.com[/URL] but seems like it was a lot of fake accounts / click bait to get you to use your paid credits to email those accounts.
Thanks in advance!
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[QUOTE=CaliFun84;5883718]Hi all. I've had pretty good luck finding SB's via Seeking in the LA area. Just wondering. Are there any other sites that are as good or even close? I tried [URL]sugardaddy.com[/URL] but seems like it was a lot of fake accounts / click bait to get you to use your paid credits to email those accounts.
Thanks in advance![/QUOTE]Seeking is head and shoulders above any other sugar dating site in terms of membership, selection, and results.
I concur with others who have mentioned secretbenefits and sugardaddymeet as being full of fake clickbait accounts and bots, with very little if any results. I had also met a few girls on [URL]sugarmodels.com[/URL] a while back, but it seems that site is now defunct.
I've also had some success with [URL]whatsyourprice.com[/URL], where I've met fresh, beautiful non pros and had amazing experiences. WYP also operates on a paid credits system for messaging, and while they have more real profiles than the aforementioned platforms, many of the girls are rinsers, that is, hustlers who expect you to pay them for showing up for dinner, with no intention of ever putting out. They'll rinse you for as much as they can, and repeat the same con with the next mark.
I'm also not a fan of whatsyourprice's search engine, as you can't screen on the basis of race or ethnicity, or hair color. It's harder to find the type of girls I like as a result.
[QUOTE=CaliFun84;5883718]Hi all. I've had pretty good luck finding SB's via Seeking in the LA area. Just wondering. Are there any other sites that are as good or even close? I tried [URL]sugardaddy.com[/URL] but seems like it was a lot of fake accounts / click bait to get you to use your paid credits to email those accounts.
Thanks in advance![/QUOTE]Haven't tried this but it looks like the girls are supposed to be verified when signing up.
[URL]https://sugarfetch.com/[/URL]
[QUOTE=CreamFire;5886982]Haven't tried this but it looks like the girls are supposed to be verified when signing up.
[URL]https://sugarfetch.com/[/URL][/QUOTE]I've posted about this earlier, in other threads. It does seem possible, some girls I recognize from SA, but I can't figure out a way to pay for the membership without giving a personal CC, which I won't / can't do.
Of course, there are some who have gotten freebies from SBs, and we usually hear about those here. HG has some good stories I recall. I don't think I have ever gotten a full FC for free, but I have definitely gotten pretty far at the M&G, where I am usually providing a modest benefit, like a gift card or Uber fare to a girl. I definitely have had a few where I got them into my car for a make out session and oral or finger-bang.
Sugar-wise, the cheapest I have gotten for a full FC was a girl who wanted a Barbi makeup set that costs about $160. I didn't get the set, I just gave her the cash for it. She also wanted me to bring magic mushrooms to future FCs, since I am not into drugs at all, I didn't see her again, even though she was very hot (latina spinner) and the first meet was great.
Recently, I saw a pudgy 19 YO white coed, I got her for 250. She did me a favor by getting a hotel room for us, I just showed up and banged her.
Some good information at the link below. A lot of messages sent out for so few successful meet ups.
[URL]https://www.reddit.com/r/sugarlifestyleforum/comments/ua69h1/30_days_on_seeking_com_data_is_beautiful/[/URL]
I have never gotten laid off WYP but I think I am getting close. The trick for me is this: if the girl does not respond or meet within a specific period of time, I report them as a cheat and request my credits back. That is working for me most of the time. I never report women on Seeking. I don't want the attention and I prefer they stay where I can watch them versus getting banned and making a new profile. I DGAF if I get banned on WYP.
BAM.
[QUOTE=FirstClass1;5885487]Seeking is head and shoulders above any other sugar dating site in terms of membership, selection, and results.
I concur with others who have mentioned secretbenefits and sugardaddymeet as being full of fake clickbait accounts and bots, with very little if any results. I had also met a few girls on [URL]sugarmodels.com[/URL] a while back, but it seems that site is now defunct.
I've also had some success with [URL]whatsyourprice.com[/URL], where I've met fresh, beautiful non pros and had amazing experiences. WYP also operates on a paid credits system for messaging, and while they have more real profiles than the aforementioned platforms, many of the girls are rinsers, that is, hustlers who expect you to pay them for showing up for dinner, with no intention of ever putting out. They'll rinse you for as much as they can, and repeat the same con with the next mark.
I'm also not a fan of whatsyourprice's search engine, as you can't screen on the basis of race or ethnicity, or hair color. It's harder to find the type of girls I like as a result.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=XJakeRobertsx;5887525]Some good information at the link below. A lot of messages sent out for so few successful meet ups.
[URL]https://www.reddit.com/r/sugarlifestyleforum/comments/ua69h1/30_days_on_seeking_com_data_is_beautiful/[/URL][/QUOTE]That's a helpful diagram, but in my opinion OP's unsuccessful M & G number is too high.
8 M& G mismatches, 5 no-shows to M & Gs and only 4 successful FC sessions suggests this guy is not securing a strong close with his POTs.
SBs are getting multiple offers every day, and they'll go for the one that piques their interest the most, whether its through looks, chemistry, or the size of the allowance. You want to reinforce your appointment with a personal touch, not have it be another text that gets forgotten shortly after it's received.
I like to do a phone and / or video call before scheduling the meet, to ensure there's enough mutual interest and compatibility. If someone won't make time for a call, they sure as hell won't make time to meet you, and aren't taking you seriously.
Once I have them on the phone, my charm and charisma will win them over, or I'll determine that they're not what I'm looking for. If I sense a mismatch, I don't waste my time and resources scheduling a M & G.
As a result my POTs will contact me if they're running late, or notify me beforehand if there's a need to reschedule the M & G, but I haven't been ghosted since implementing a personal touch to my vetting process.
[QUOTE=CreamFire;5886982]Haven't tried this but it looks like the girls are supposed to be verified when signing up.
[URL]https://sugarfetch.com/[/URL][/QUOTE]I checked out the site, its less than $50 to join, but it's a small membership pool to work with, only around 4000 total. Meanwhile you have tens of thousands of girls around the world on SA.
The search engine only filters by location: not only do you get very few hits, but you have to wade through porkers and goblins of all ages to find a few decent looking girls.
I just tried to activate paid subscription and my account gets suspended immediately.
Has anyone had this happen?
[QUOTE=CandleRock;5888257]I just tried to activate paid subscription and my account gets suspended immediately.
Has anyone had this happen?[/QUOTE]Happens to all sorts of people who have a track record of getting banned (usual reason. Too explicit a conversation on the site. Take it off the site to text to discuss specifics). If you have been banned, SA will use all sorts of tricks to figure out it is you trying to get another account. You must all *completely* new everything as if you are a different person to get back on. There are posts on the sugar threads here all about this.
I had an active subscription August 2020 November 2020 and March 2021. I deleted my accounts each time. Never been banned and girls always gave me explicit convo. HOWEVER, I create a new account on Friday and got banned immediately on Saturday night. Not even sure why as I never even messaged anyone yet. Never paid the sub yet so at least that is good. Something odd is happening maybe?
Created a new account today and did the following.
Changed my burner #.
Changed burner phone (mac address).
Created a new email.
Used one of my many fake fb accounts to "verify".
Only use public wireless (IP address).
Ill report back in a week to see if I get banned again.
[QUOTE=SeanKonnery;5889349]I had an active subscription August 2020 November 2020 and March 2021. I deleted my accounts each time. Never been banned and girls always gave me explicit convo. HOWEVER, I create a new account on Friday and got banned immediately on Saturday night. Not even sure why as I never even messaged anyone yet. Never paid the sub yet so at least that is good. Something odd is happening maybe?
Created a new account today and did the following.
Changed my burner #.
Changed burner phone (mac address).
Created a new email.
Used one of my many fake fb accounts to "verify".
Only use public wireless (IP address).
Ill report back in a week to see if I get banned again.[/QUOTE]Surprising. I would guess it was something in your profile that alerted them, like pictures that they could locate on the internet, therefore they weren't you.
I think it is a mistake to delete a perfectly good account. Just deactivate. You can always come back to it. I'd guess if a profile has been up there for a while and there haven't been any issues with it (and they've gotten membership fees from it), they are not going to ban it unless you really misbehave. They know my profile has been there 4 years, I don't allow that to be shown on the profile though. Makes me look like the horn-dog monger I am. .
Also, I mostly access the site on the web, not a phone app. I am no techie, IDK what might be going on w / breadcrumbs they put onto a phone to track you. I can guess they might not appreciate someone coming back all the time w / different profiles.
[QUOTE=FarFarAway;5888577]Happens to all sorts of people who have a track record of getting banned (usual reason. Too explicit a conversation on the site. Take it off the site to text to discuss specifics). If you have been banned, SA will use all sorts of tricks to figure out it is you trying to get another account. You must all *completely* new everything as if you are a different person to get back on. There are posts on the sugar threads here all about this.[/QUOTE]Had the account for a while but never dm anyone or got premium until couple of days ago. Instant suspension WTF.
[QUOTE=CandleRock;5889620]Had the account for a while but never dm anyone or got premium until couple of days ago. Instant suspension WTF.[/QUOTE]Why don't you cut and paste onto this site what you had on your profile in terms of what you are looking for. Perhaps that would reveal the problem. If you don't do anything to attract the scrutiny of the mods, your account will be OK. As soon as they have any reason to look at it, if there is anything remotely out of place, you can expect to get banned. They are really cracking down, and they are re-branding the site as a pure 'dating' site. Even though every one knows that it isn't so. That is likely the reason they are so stringent. They are trying to change the vibe and boot anyone (male or female) with the least hint of 'commercial' interest.
There's certain moments on SA where you just strike gold or hit the jackpot. Have a date set with a girl who only wants 600 a month to meet anywhere from 1-2 a week to start. We'll see the pics she sent me are cute. Little white spinner and only 20, hopefully she's not a cat fish because that'll be my first.
[QUOTE=Dsteezy;5891233]There's certain moments on SA where you just strike gold or hit the jackpot. Have a date set with a girl who only wants 600 a month to meet anywhere from 1-2 a week to start. We'll see the pics she sent me are cute. Little white spinner and only 20, hopefully she's not a cat fish because that'll be my first.[/QUOTE]Sounds too good to be true but if real, then you hit the jackpot unless she wants platonic only? It's not some girl in long beach with tats is it?
[QUOTE=CreamFire;5891715]Sounds too good to be true but if real, then you hit the jackpot unless she wants platonic only? It's not some girl in long beach with tats is it?[/QUOTE]It's not impossible, it all depends on the girl's wants and needs, as well as the level of chemistry and attraction. Is she's legit, then treat her right and make that connection last.
[QUOTE=Dsteezy;5891233]There's certain moments on SA where you just strike gold or hit the jackpot. Have a date set with a girl who only wants 600 a month to meet anywhere from 1-2 a week to start. We'll see the pics she sent me are cute. Little white spinner and only 20, hopefully she's not a cat fish because that'll be my first.[/QUOTE]Until you actually meet and she delivers you have some vague promises of something or other. Please report back once you have sealed the deal. At this point it's 50/50 you'll get hit with "daddy, can I have an advance on our first meet? I'll promise you the world if you can send me $$$ right now. ".
[QUOTE=Dsteezy;5891233]There's certain moments on SA where you just strike gold or hit the jackpot. Have a date set with a girl who only wants 600 a month to meet anywhere from 1-2 a week to start. We'll see the pics she sent me are cute. Little white spinner and only 20, hopefully she's not a cat fish because that'll be my first.[/QUOTE]Just make sure you pay per date and not the six upfront.
You've been seeing a SB for months. You come home from a date to find your SO murdered. LE begins an investigation. Is your opsec good enough with all of their powers (like we see on TV) that they can't find out that you've had a side piece? And maybe a motive?
Anyone seen her before?
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/e39e90e0-1485-4386-9458-81daaea53da4[/URL]
[QUOTE=FarFarAway;5897303]You've been seeing a SB for months. You come home from a date to find your SO murdered. LE begins an investigation. Is your opsec good enough with all of their powers (like we see on TV) that they can't find out that you've had a side piece? And maybe a motive?[/QUOTE]Not sure this is appropriate for this thread.
[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;5897838]Not sure this is appropriate for this thread.[/QUOTE]You're the mod, but there's plenty of info exchanged on other sugar threads about how to maintain your anonymity from a SB. This is a little higher level of operational security, to be sure. Want me to try this elsewhere?
[QUOTE=FarFarAway;5897303]You've been seeing a SB for months. You come home from a date to find your SO murdered. LE begins an investigation. Is your opsec good enough with all of their powers (like we see on TV) that they can't find out that you've had a side piece? And maybe a motive?[/QUOTE]As HG states, may be inappropriate but also stupid. No guy's Opsec can ever be that good. I have dummy business, multiple gmails, facebook, IG, Twtr, multiple numbers on a burner, etc. I drive multiple cars and never park where my license can be read. I didn't create this all at once but it just accumulated over almost a decade in the sugar bowl. (And multiple unsuccessful blackmail attempts.) All this is aimed at barring the predators and blackmailers from getting to me. Or, equally important, making them think they have me when they have nothing. However, any decent PI will penetrate all of that in a New York minute never mind the state. Don't do the crime if you can't do the time.
BAM.
[QUOTE=BamBam;5898474]As HG states, may be inappropriate but also stupid. No guy's Opsec can ever be that good. I have dummy business, multiple gmails, facebook, IG, Twtr, multiple numbers on a burner, etc. I drive multiple cars and never park where my license can be read. I didn't create this all at once but it just accumulated over almost a decade in the sugar bowl. (And multiple unsuccessful blackmail attempts.) All this is aimed at barring the predators and blackmailers from getting to me. Or, equally important, making them think they have me when they have nothing. However, any decent PI will penetrate all of that in a New York minute never mind the state. Don't do the crime if you can't do the time.
BAM.[/QUOTE]Well said. All this "Opsec" everyone goes on about is to keep the SB's from figuring out who YOU are. Not the government, cops or anyone else with any level of determination and access to real research tools or subpoenas. A SB can't call or write Apple, Google, or your car manufacturer to check on your whereabouts. It's just silly to think you can avoid that scrutiny from anyone conducting an investigation.
This one is not a sb and seems to be a pro if anyone wants. Requested six but will do four. Outs only. Have not seen her so don't ask me if there's details. Play at your own risk.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/d43e1d9f-f70f-4412-bcc7-6b400328a32e[/URL]
Signed up to SD4 M today. Had great success there years ago. Did the free trial. Canceled an hour later. Total joke.
Have never used SA. Created an account and got a number of messages / interests. Some girls seem very. Compelling. Open to any type of arrangement, so not too particular about specifics on that from my side.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/8b5117e2-1f00-4a9e-b417-01b8f24912a8[/URL]
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/1b60ce11-276a-449d-8e4c-3979b98eae13[/URL]
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/76e77931-9bcb-4eac-8d83-48e93b947d16[/URL]
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/e3467496-6d76-4cde-aed9-ff8941e9ae65[/URL]
Messaged back and three sent me phone number and one sent PPM amount. Any guidance from more experienced users? Worth trying to meet up with them?
Thank you!
I met a couple off of a fetish site, they seem real enough. I need to be discreet but they insist on a pic or facetime / snapchat. What do you guys think? It seems hard to do this semianonymously like I had hoped.
[QUOTE=NutritionFacts;5903724]I met a couple off of a fetish site, they seem real enough. I need to be discreet but they insist on a pic or facetime / snapchat. What do you guys think? It seems hard to do this semianonymously like I had hoped.[/QUOTE]I had an anonymous snap account at one time, that could be OK. I also have opened a Skype account using my sugar email. Using a fake background, that should also be OK. Use either your burner phone or a VPN on your computer.
[QUOTE=Falernum;5902766]Have never used SA. Created an account and got a number of messages / interests. Some girls seem very. Compelling. Open to any type of arrangement, so not too particular about specifics on that from my side.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/8b5117e2-1f00-4a9e-b417-01b8f24912a8[/URL]
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/1b60ce11-276a-449d-8e4c-3979b98eae13[/URL]
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/76e77931-9bcb-4eac-8d83-48e93b947d16[/URL]
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/e3467496-6d76-4cde-aed9-ff8941e9ae65[/URL]
Messaged back and three sent me phone number and one sent PPM amount. Any guidance from more experienced users? Worth trying to meet up with them?
Thank you![/QUOTE]Do not pay for meet and greets outside of drinks maybe dinner, and never pay for any part of the arrangement before completing it.
[QUOTE=Falernum;5902766]Have never used SA. Created an account and got a number of messages / interests. Some girls seem very. Compelling. Open to any type of arrangement, so not too particular about specifics on that from my side.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/8b5117e2-1f00-4a9e-b417-01b8f24912a8[/URL]
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/1b60ce11-276a-449d-8e4c-3979b98eae13[/URL]
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/76e77931-9bcb-4eac-8d83-48e93b947d16[/URL]
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/e3467496-6d76-4cde-aed9-ff8941e9ae65[/URL]
Messaged back and three sent me phone number and one sent PPM amount. Any guidance from more experienced users? Worth trying to meet up with them?
Thank you![/QUOTE]Girl #1 offer $$$$$ + dinner if you are into that
Girl #2 is off the market - check the dates
Girl #3 pass
Girl #4/5 - beware unless you got bands to burn
[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;5904456]Girl #4/5 - beware unless you got bands to burn[/QUOTE]They are not even attractive to me. Wouldn't date them vanilla.
[QUOTE=FarFarAway;5905127]They are not even attractive to me. Wouldn't date them vanilla.[/QUOTE]The one with the long hair, what's up with that thick trail of hair that goes up to her belly button?