OK this is just one point
[QUOTE=TechSticles;4829267]I'm going to assume you aren't any sort of health professional (or scholar since you don't know what punctuation and paragraphs look like) but you speak with a certainty that's interesting. Then you devolve into who you voted for as if that matters about the corona virus.
You act as if the lives lost to the pandemic were simply inevitable when you make those comparisons. There's plenty of studies (none that you've read) that show that our failure to act early probably contributed and extra 30 K+ deaths.
I thought about spending time refuting your points individually, but it's tiresome. What I'd like you do is go start hugging everyone you know that thinks like you. I see this as an opportunity to Darwin our way out of some stupid fucking shit.[/QUOTE]Exactly how did it "save" lives? I agree that they didn't die then, but what miracle is going to prevent them from dying now? Has a vaccine or viable treatment been discovered? Did staying inside for 3 months confer on them some magical protection? How are the people who would have succumbed to covid in March somehow able to survive it in June, July, or August?
There was one and ONLY one kind of death that shelter in place was supposed to prevent and that was death due to inaccessibility of health care because the health care system was overwhelmed which has never even come close to happening and before you trot out the "unprecedented" cases of doctors practicing in tents in NYC they did exactly the same thing in 2018. There was never going to be two million deaths like Neil "always wrong" Ferguson predicted (same guy who said Sweden would have 75,000 dead by the end of March unless they locked down) ultimatly this was the largest over reaction and demonstration of privilege (just stay home for 3 months, don't be so selfish, you will kill grandma) that I can recall seeing in my life.
Let me put it simply, you, and those who thought like you reacted in fear and insisted on a course of action that has driving a half a billion people back into extreme poverty, and now you want to justify your hysteria with bullshit nonsensical studies. You should be ashamed.
What kind of fallacy are you going to use now? Ad hominum combined with argue from authority worked on the OP. What are you going to use on me? Just make sure you address the. 26% IFR and not 4 or 5 with whichever bullshit you go with.
Also before you assume I'm a Trumpeter, not, life long lefty here.
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[QUOTE=Admin2;4829880]Exactly how did it "save" lives? I agree that they didn't die then, but what miracle is going to prevent them from dying now? Has a vaccine or viable treatment been discovered? Did staying inside for 3 months confer on them some magical protection? How are the people who would have succumbed to covid in March somehow able to survive it in June, July, or August?
There was one and ONLY one kind of death that shelter in place was supposed to prevent and that was death due to inaccessibility of health care because the health care system was overwhelmed which has never even come close to happening and before you trot out the "unprecedented" cases of doctors practicing in tents in NYC they did exactly the same thing in 2018. There was never going to be two million deaths like Neil "always wrong" Ferguson predicted (same guy who said Sweden would have 75,000 dead by the end of March unless they locked down) ultimatly this was the largest over reaction and demonstration of privilege (just stay home for 3 months, don't be so selfish, you will kill grandma) that I can recall seeing in my life.
Let me put it simply, you, and those who thought like you reacted in fear and insisted on a course of action that has driving a half a billion people back into extreme poverty, and now you want to justify your hysteria with bullshit nonsensical studies. You should be ashamed.
What kind of fallacy are you going to use now? Ad hominum combined with argue from authority worked on the OP. What are you going to use on me? Just make sure you address the. 26% IFR and not 4 or 5 with whichever bullshit you go with.
Also before you assume I'm a Trumpeter, not, life long lefty here.[/QUOTE]Thank you for the clarity and explanation Mr. Admin2. Succinct and to the point using facts and data. I can think of nothing else that needs to be added to this topic that makes it any easier to understand.
What about the head doctor
Speaking of useless doctors, any prospects on good head doctors?
[QUOTE=Worf359;4828107]With all the conflicting information from Doctors from every side the only doctors that I trust are Dr. Seuss and Dr Pepper.[/QUOTE]