Massage Parlor Reports

[QUOTE=Gentleman100;3910246]I am also beginning to think that the Big 3 AMPs (BO, GG, WB) are like carpet baggers. Moving into an area, get quick cash no matter what, then move on when their scheme is discovered. My visit to BO was like others: it felt like I was a box at an Amazon distribution center being pushed through the process and out the door.

I prefer independents (especially those on the sister site). I know that they can be transients as well, but at least you have someone like your favorite bartender: when you return, they know what you like. They don't give you a drink that they are trying to push.

One way to reduce or stabilize the cost of the Big 3 is to visit independents more, and stay away from the over-priced shops. Even the services provided by reliable AMPs (like Magic) are better than what is happening at the Big 3. Since Tampa has signed an ordinance about bath houses, something like that might happen here. We need to be prepared with backups in case (or when) our Big 3 pack up the carnival and leave town.

Be safe everyone.[/QUOTE]I agree, if you want an awesome experience from a independent provider, check out Mya in Kissimmee. She's about 10 minutes from the now popular Kissimmee AMP. Better massage and FS for $160.

Do all girls at GG vacation in the islands, or just Pandora.

[QUOTE=RyanNickels;3910051]Been in the hobby for a while. First experience was at a great little shop by Fl Mall that is now closed. Back then, $160 (80+80) got the full experience from my girl lucy or I'd visit magic in Alt. Or essence (deziah's place) where $120-$140 got my headache relieved (though no FS there). I've sat back and watched CB and BB raise the $$ stakes, followed by BO and GG. In 8 years, prices have jumped up by 50%. Now, I'm watching WB and Yuki push that $$. 40 price to $$. 60 and some of you are paying it. Just an observation, but when one market rises- others will follow. Beware of the bar you are setting by letting the little head win in the heat of negotiation. Finally, when does the value of AMPs outweigh full providers? I love table showers and a quick massage as much as the next guy- but for $$. 60. Hell I can go get a full hour of fun with a massage from the sister site and pocket $ for another day. I'd kind of like to see this AMP bubble pop, but that would take a unified front of customers unwilling to partake if AMP providers ask for more- and that isn't going to happen. Best way to cook a frog is by heating the water slowly and Orlando is incrementally getting cooked. Just my. 02- we need to find a way to manipulate this market.[/QUOTE]The prices are just nuts, for years full service has been available for half. Sure the girls are hotter there so that matters. I too miss the little place by FLorida mall. Had tons of fun there even in ththe room with the bed.

[QUOTE=LevelUp34;3910341]Do all girls at GG vacation in the islands, or just Pandora.[/QUOTE]I remember one in Maryland who spent every vacation (and some long weekends) at West Virginia's Charles Town races and casino. This was before Maryland legalized casinos. Her co-workers said they could always tell if she won or lost. If she won (a minority of the time), she came back to work directly from the casino hotel, usually a couple of hours late, in a hired limo. If, as most often, she lost, she'd call the mamasan from the Baltimore bus station for a ride.

[QUOTE=MisterTwinkies;3908000]...Is this the Massage Star on international or that other "Assa" place?[/QUOTE]International in Maitland.

[QUOTE=RyanNickels;3910051]Been in the hobby for a while. First experience was at a great little shop by Fl Mall that is now closed. Back then, $160 (80+80) got the full experience from my girl lucy or I'd visit magic in Alt. Or essence (deziah's place) where $120-$140 got my headache relieved (though no FS there). I've sat back and watched CB and BB raise the $$ stakes, followed by BO and GG. In 8 years, prices have jumped up by 50%. Now, I'm watching WB and Yuki push that $$. 40 price to $$. 60 and some of you are paying it. Just an observation, but when one market rises- others will follow. Beware of the bar you are setting by letting the little head win in the heat of negotiation. Finally, when does the value of AMPs outweigh full providers? I love table showers and a quick massage as much as the next guy- but for $$. 60. Hell I can go get a full hour of fun with a massage from the sister site and pocket $ for another day. I'd kind of like to see this AMP bubble pop, but that would take a unified front of customers unwilling to partake if AMP providers ask for more- and that isn't going to happen. Best way to cook a frog is by heating the water slowly and Orlando is incrementally getting cooked. Just my. 02- we need to find a way to manipulate this market.[/QUOTE]This is of course a byproduct of our economy, unfortunately. We have more work and making a little more money. Another byproduct is we're dumber as well and not protecting our money as we should.

We have to be smarter overall and not let them run the show. I know the have something we want but I think and hope that they want what we have even more!

Be stronger and smarter, guys! It will be to our benefit eventually.

[QUOTE=Jokester1;3909190]Actually, human trafficking is rare in these public AMPs. Human trafficking usually is more undercover, frequently involving moving around using hotels and other temporary lodgings. Assuming you do know the definition of human trafficking.[/QUOTE]Yes, you're right apparently he doesn't know the definition of human trafficking. Every AMP that I've been to and the ladies there are usually in their 30's or so and are free to come and go as they please and do. Taking vacations, going back forth to NY, CA, etc. Or going to work other places or opening their own place. They have choices to take days off depending how much they want to make and choice on where they work knowing what services are where and how much they can earn at different spas. A lot I talk to are actually pretty intelligent and well traveled and some pretty good with business and know how to count their $$. Human trafficking is not involved and is a completely different world & animal. Which I don't think anybody here would ever be for. It is far removed from massage parlors. Like you said HT usually happens in hotels, private homes, porn industry, etc. With shady characters sometimes luring them with the premise they are going to be models with a lot of times underage females (or sometimes even males) being held against their will. A industry I would hope most of us would find disgusting and far removed from massage parlors.

[blue]Not in the USA, human trafficking in some states is defined as "transporting a person for the purpose of commercial sex." So guys picking up SW's and taking them to their spots are technically human traffickers.

There were two girls that crossed a state line in their private auto to work for an escort agency. They got busted, the owner of the car was charged with trafficking because she "took" a person across a state line to do sex work.

Fucking people up there are fucking crazy.

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[QUOTE=RyanNickels;3910051]Been in the hobby for a while. First experience was at a great little shop by Fl Mall that is now closed. Back then, $160 (80+80) got the full experience from my girl lucy or I'd visit magic in Alt. Or essence (deziah's place) where $120-$140 got my headache relieved (though no FS there). I've sat back and watched CB and BB raise the $$ stakes, followed by BO and GG. In 8 years, prices have jumped up by 50%. Now, I'm watching WB and Yuki push that $$. 40 price to $$. 60 and some of you are paying it. Just an observation, but when one market rises- others will follow. Beware of the bar you are setting by letting the little head win in the heat of negotiation. Finally, when does the value of AMPs outweigh full providers? I love table showers and a quick massage as much as the next guy- but for $$. 60. Hell I can go get a full hour of fun with a massage from the sister site and pocket $ for another day. I'd kind of like to see this AMP bubble pop, but that would take a unified front of customers unwilling to partake if AMP providers ask for more- and that isn't going to happen. Best way to cook a frog is by heating the water slowly and Orlando is incrementally getting cooked. Just my. 02- we need to find a way to manipulate this market.[/QUOTE]This is a by product of idiots that are afraid to go to other AMP. Keep going to same AMPs that are way overpriced. Then post how there experience was at these over priced locations. Post about the same location over and over. If they keep jacking the price then stop going. There are plenty that still are reasonable priced. There's a location I go to when I can't get a hold of UTR's. TS, FS covered action with a rub down 120 out the door. Been going to this location for years and its the same Asian chick. Late 30's smoking bod with decent face, silky soft Asian skin. Don't ask cause its my fall back location and knowing some of you horny bastard you will ruin the honey hole. Again if you do not like the price don't go. First time I went to BO when they first opened, it was 40 HH door fee then 100 for action, negotiated. I went back about a week ago. They straight ask for 200 at the door with no negotiation. So can't image what the tip was. I declined and went to another location. That simple. BTW most of you would have never known U-Massage and Rainbow Spa existed till I brought them up.

[QUOTE=BuckNastee;3910585]This is a by product of idiots that are afraid to go to other AMP. Keep going to same AMPs that are way overpriced. Then post how there experience was at these over priced locations. Post about the same location over and over. If they keep jacking the price then stop going. There are plenty that still are reasonable priced. There's a location I go to when I can't get a hold of UTR's. TS, FS covered action with a rub down 120 out the door. Been going to this location for years and its the same Asian chick. Late 30's smoking bod with decent face, silky soft Asian skin. Don't ask cause its my fall back location and knowing some of you horny bastard you will ruin the honey hole. Again if you do not like the price don't go. First time I went to BO when they first opened, it was 40 HH door fee then 100 for action, negotiated. I went back about a week ago. They straight ask for 200 at the door with no negotiation. So can't image what the tip was. I declined and went to another location. That simple. BTW most of you would have never known U-Massage and Rainbow Spa existed till I brought them up.[/QUOTE]This is exactly why I've stopped visiting AMPs on the regular. I try to get creative now and avoid the popular ones that everyone posts about. Sure, it's everyones own money and if they want to spend that much. Go for it. But it does indeed make it harder for others who don't see enough value in frequently dropping that dough for an hour. To each is own. But damn them. Ha.

I've been in the scene for almost 10 years and you guys are absolutely right. Prices just keep getting higher. Its not like gas prices where it fluctuates on a day basis. These parlors prices are just rising by the day and in the end we are the ones sucking out. And what exactly what would happen if the service is not up to par? Do you get your money back because the last time I complained at a restaurant, I got my full money back and more.

I remember when massages where 40 hh and 60 fh and now there about 50 hh and 80 hh. Especially the big 3 or 4 now. GG, BO, YOU, WB or KSM. There needs to be a revolt today, if we don't hh prices will soon be 70 and full hour will be nearly 100 plus tips. I may have to leave the massage parlor scene and travel back to Asia back and fourth since I can get 10 x the action there.

What do you guys say? Should we start and leave them if they haggle same price or do we keep fishing in hoping to get the same mechanical service. I remember back in Miami, they atleast had promotion cards, buy 9 massages and get the 10th one free. Anyways. I just think prices should not be high or low. But fair, In my opinion.

Massage 30 min- $40.

Massage 45 min -$50.

Massage 1 Hour- $60.

Tips for great service of HH- $100.

Tips for great service of Full Hour - $120.

Think about it, the lower the prices, the more customer it will attract for them and the better for business in them. Why do you think so many people are at Mcdonalds and Walmart vs Chipotle and Publix. Simple economics. Of coarse we need to start doing this now, the only ones not able are the ones that are members, but in any case spread the word and let me know what you guys think.

I think this place is second to Blue Ocean, pretty nice line up of girls there.

Everything is on the menu, seems they stepped up their game.

Has anyone been here?

[QUOTE=LevelUp34;3910341]Do all girls at GG vacation in the islands, or just Pandora.[/QUOTE]I've personally had a dream of pandora, but others have mentioned various other providers at GG enjoying Greek. Can't recall names, but I've seen enough reports that it stood out.

2nd time trying it and same result. Great massage but no HJ. Said I can do it myself because she doesn't want to get into trouble but is willing to pull her tits out and let me run her pussy. So yeah she was sexy and had nice tits so I jerked myself off, don't judge. $70 for the massage and $20 tip. As I type this I realize what a dumb ass I was but aren't we all when the little head takes over.

I guess she was not getting any requests for Tantra at $400 per hour or escorting at $800 per hour. According to her updated ad on Eros. She is back doing massage at $180 for 90 mins. Still doing Tantra 300 for 90 mins. Still run Forest run, fast, away!

[QUOTE=Bearing100;3910533]Yes, you're right apparently he doesn't know the definition of human trafficking. Every AMP that I've been to and the ladies there are usually in their 30's or so and are free to come and go as they please and do. Taking vacations, going back forth to NY, CA, etc. Or going to work other places or opening their own place. They have choices to take days off depending how much they want to make and choice on where they work knowing what services are where and how much they can earn at different spas. A lot I talk to are actually pretty intelligent and well traveled and some pretty good with business and know how to count their $$. Human trafficking is not involved and is a completely different world & animal. Which I don't think anybody here would ever be for. It is far removed from massage parlors. Like you said HT usually happens in hotels, private homes, porn industry, etc. With shady characters sometimes luring them with the premise they are going to be models with a lot of times underage females (or sometimes even males) being held against their will. A industry I would hope most of us would find disgusting and far removed from massage parlors.

[blue]Not in the USA, human trafficking in some states is defined as "transporting a person for the purpose of commercial sex." So guys picking up SW's and taking them to their spots are technically human traffickers.

There were two girls that crossed a state line in their private auto to work for an escort agency. They got busted, the owner of the car was charged with trafficking because she "took" a person across a state line to do sex work.

Fucking people up there are fucking crazy.

A2[/blue][/QUOTE]Definition of human trafficking in the USA per Homeland Security: "Human trafficking is modern-day slavery and involves the use of force, fraud, or coercion to obtain some type of labor or commercial sex act. " In most States it is illegal to aid, abet, or participate in prostitution (include transporting), but that is not the same as human trafficking.