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[QUOTE=DarkBlak;4541973]Which spot is that?[/QUOTE][QUOTE=DennyPas;4541970]You can also negotiate to 220/240 total for the spot on the same block (closer to 6th ave). The late night crew is kinda slow at the 6th ave spot, I've been able to get away with some ridiculous deals.[/QUOTE]Does anyone know where this spot is?
[QUOTE=Fenfen;4544251]It's one pop. As for the full hour, it may depend on the lady. I've had session where after the pop, they went back to massaging me for a while and others where they clean up and get me on my way.[/QUOTE]280 total for only one pop doesn't sound great IMO (especially since I couldn't care less about table showers and massages although others might). But it seems like it's the lowest cost option for the most part, unless you go to the other boros and want to take your chances with the ghetto or actually like BBWs. I guess it is what it is.
[QUOTE=Jjolly0;4544205]European from GC?[/QUOTE]Yeah she's gone solo, check the rest of the thread for her info.
[QUOTE=Fenfen;4541568]It was 280 total. 80 house and the rest is tip. I think it's universal among all the ladies. Though if you want msog, that'll cost more and I think the 2 girls special is double.[/QUOTE]Based on the recent posts yesterday I went to KKP around 8:30 last night. When I called, MMS said they were closed because of steps being redone but said Julie and Hana were still there. I had texted them earlier in the week but got no reply but she told me she had gotten it so I could come by to see Julie. I paid the $2.8 total after the table shower.
After a so / so massage and the flip the fun started (BBJ). There was no mention of a condom needed and I did end CIP. Got more massage after and multiple hot towel cleanup I left. I consider it time and money well spent and I will definitely return next month but want to try Hana and Amber (in that order). Photos were pretty on target representative for shape and attractiveness, hair style.
She insisted on dressing me and was blown away when I gave her $.4 tip. I didn't like that there was no DFK or her doing asian on me. I'll keep searching for missing talents.
MMS mentioned they were closing for the weekend because of the steps being redone so you should call today before going over.
Thanks to all who posted on this place before my post, it led me to having a good Sat night.
[QUOTE=RedSonata;4544380]Yeah she's gone solo, check the rest of the thread for her info.[/QUOTE]Then the answer to your question is yes, she still does.
Anyone know of anyone at Lear that does BBFS? I only get a chance to get into the city about once a month for work and usually go with someone from Lear so knowing who does and doesn't would be helpful. Also if CIP is available with anyone? Feel free to respond or PM me.
[QUOTE=RedSox1775;4545830]Anyone know of anyone at Lear that does BBFS? I only get a chance to get into the city about once a month for work and usually go with someone from Lear so knowing who does and doesn't would be helpful. Also if CIP is available with anyone? Feel free to respond or PM me.[/QUOTE]I only ever went to Lear once and saw Emma G. At the time she let me BBFS and CIP for no additional charge, but I've heard that is no longer the case since then. Either way, I decided not to return anyway because I did not find her to be as attractive in person as she appeared in her photos, and I've heard that's pretty much the same to be expected of the other Lear talent.
I also heard that Elle McR at one time allowed CIP, but when I contacted her she told me that she doesn't do anything unprotected.
I suspect that as word got out for both of these girls, they got more BBFS requests and weren't too happy about that.
Saw her tonight. BBFS CIP no mention of a condom and I didn't see 1 in sight.
[QUOTE=Jjolly0;4544205]European from GC?[/QUOTE]
I've been fairly new to using SA but OMG have I been getting lucky with 19-22 year olds on this site. Some girls want a ridiculous amount of money to meet but I've been coughing up between 200-400 per meet, multiple hours, BBFS, bb anal, everything you can imagine LOL it's insane. Anyone else have luck on the site? Willing to trade girls info.
[QUOTE=Danginfantry;4547256]I've been fairly new to using SA but OMG have I been getting lucky with 19-22 year olds on this site. Some girls want a ridiculous amount of money to meet but I've been coughing up between 200-400 per meet, multiple hours, BBFS, bb anal, everything you can imagine LOL it's insane. Anyone else have luck on the site? Willing to trade girls info.[/QUOTE]Yes I was active for over a year but I let my membership expire because it requires a lot of time but I have a lot of contacts I maintain to trade. I am very busy so I prefer established spots like massage place where I'm in and out without planning chitchat and booking rooms. Text back and forth requires a lot of time. However, SA is worth it if time is not an issue for you.
[QUOTE=Danginfantry;4547256]I've been fairly new to using SA but OMG have I been getting lucky with 19-22 year olds on this site. Some girls want a ridiculous amount of money to meet but I've been coughing up between 200-400 per meet, multiple hours, BBFS, bb anal, everything you can imagine LOL it's insane. Anyone else have luck on the site? Willing to trade girls info.[/QUOTE]A few issues I've found with SA.
1 - Some girls will try to scam / rob you. Online scams are common and easy to spot / avoid if you simply don't ever pay anything in advance, but sometimes if you let your guard down and aren't careful they'll literally take the money and run when you're not looking (especially if you're meeting them at a hotel first time). It's only happened to me twice when I was still a novice but it's something to look at for, especially if they insist on meeting you at a hotel.
2- Many of these girls live in the outer boros, and will expect you to Uber / lyft them to you.
3- Depending on how much you're paying l, especially of you're in the 2-4 range they're almost ALWAYS not as attractive as they are in their photos. Most often they typically use the same angling and positioning tricks women use in online dating pics to basically hide the fact that they're at least 20 or 30 lbs heavier than they appear.
4- Flakiness and general scheduling issues. Since these girls aren't pros, and many of them are still in school and / or living with their parents, you'll often times have a hard time getting them to commit to a date and time, and even then they're still very likely to flake or no show or try to reschedule at the last minute, which is problematic if you're not hosting at your place or you had to get a motel.
5-Price point. Ultimately, you get what you pay for. The top shelf girls are usually interested in a monthly or even weekly allowance, and the ones that are attractive and willing to do per meet are usually in the 400 and up range. Many of the more attractive girls even basically expect you to court them as if you're dating them regularly, while you're still paying for their time. My general experience has taught me time and again that almost anyone who's willing to accept less than 200 per meet on the first time is almost certainly not what they seem and not even worth that much. At best, they'll be very unattractive, hard to deal with or very far away. At worst, you're walking into a scam or robbery.
As someone said in a previous post it's quite a bit of work, almost as much as regular dating tbh. But if you enjoy "shopping" and "bargain hunting" then yes, SA in the 2-400 range is the way to go.
Oh yeah, and you're generally going to get far more No for BBFS or any extras in general, especially with the more attractive ones, before you hit a yes.
[QUOTE=ClarkDarkNYC;4545126]Based on the recent posts yesterday I went to KKP around 8:30 last night. When I called, MMS said they were closed because of steps being redone but said Julie and Hana were still there. I had texted them earlier in the week but got no reply but she told me she had gotten it so I could come by to see Julie. I paid the $2.8 total after the table shower.
After a so / so massage and the flip the fun started (BBJ). There was no mention of a condom needed and I did end CIP. Got more massage after and multiple hot towel cleanup I left. I consider it time and money well spent and I will definitely return next month but want to try Hana and Amber (in that order). Photos were pretty on target representative for shape and attractiveness, hair style.
She insisted on dressing me and was blown away when I gave her $.4 tip. I didn't like that there was no DFK or her doing asian on me. I'll keep searching for missing talents.
MMS mentioned they were closing for the weekend because of the steps being redone so you should call today before going over.
Thanks to all who posted on this place before my post, it led me to having a good Sat night.[/QUOTE]KKP is ok, but I have a new fave. That said, has anyone BBFS with Helen?
[QUOTE=ClarkDarkNYC;4545126]Based on the recent posts yesterday I went to KKP around 8:30 last night. When I called, MMS said they were closed because of steps being redone but said Julie and Hana were still there. I had texted them earlier in the week but got no reply but she told me she had gotten it so I could come by to see Julie. I paid the $2.8 total after the table shower.
After a so / so massage and the flip the fun started (BBJ). There was no mention of a condom needed and I did end CIP. Got more massage after and multiple hot towel cleanup I left. I consider it time and money well spent and I will definitely return next month but want to try Hana and Amber (in that order). Photos were pretty on target representative for shape and attractiveness, hair style.
She insisted on dressing me and was blown away when I gave her $.4 tip. I didn't like that there was no DFK or her doing asian on me. I'll keep searching for missing talents.
MMS mentioned they were closing for the weekend because of the steps being redone so you should call today before going over.
Thanks to all who posted on this place before my post, it led me to having a good Sat night.[/QUOTE]Julie does not do DFK at all or is it YMMV? I am planning to see Julie but if she does not have DFK on the table despite BBFS then it's a no for me.
[QUOTE=UncleThrax;4547613]A few issues I've found with SA.
1 - Some girls will try to scam / rob you. Online scams are common and easy to spot / avoid if you simply don't ever pay anything in advance, but sometimes if you let your guard down and aren't careful they'll literally take the money and run when you're not looking (especially if you're meeting them at a hotel first time). It's only happened to me twice when I was still a novice but it's something to look at for, especially if they insist on meeting you at a hotel.
2- Many of these girls live in the outer boros, and will expect you to Uber / lyft them to you.
3- Depending on how much you're paying l, especially of you're in the 2-4 range they're almost ALWAYS not as attractive as they are in their photos. Most often they typically use the same angling and positioning tricks women use in online dating pics to basically hide the fact that they're at least 20 or 30 lbs heavier than they appear.
4- Flakiness and general scheduling issues. Since these girls aren't pros, and many of them are still in school and / or living with their parents, you'll often times have a hard time getting them to commit to a date and time, and even then they're still very likely to flake or no show or try to reschedule at the last minute, which is problematic if you're not hosting at your place or you had to get a motel.
5-Price point. Ultimately, you get what you pay for. The top shelf girls are usually interested in a monthly or even weekly allowance, and the ones that are attractive and willing to do per meet are usually in the 400 and up range. Many of the more attractive girls even basically expect you to court them as if you're dating them regularly, while you're still paying for their time. My general experience has taught me time and again that almost anyone who's willing to accept less than 200 per meet on the first time is almost certainly not what they seem and not even worth that much. At best, they'll be very unattractive, hard to deal with or very far away. At worst, you're walking into a scam or robbery.
As someone said in a previous post it's quite a bit of work, almost as much as regular dating tbh. But if you enjoy "shopping" and "bargain hunting" then yes, SA in the 2-400 range is the way to go.
Oh yeah, and you're generally going to get far more No for BBFS or any extras in general, especially with the more attractive ones, before you hit a yes.[/QUOTE]Two more things I forgot to add:
1- You're always competing with other "bidders". Due to the nature of the site, you can successfully negotiate an arrangement and then have a girl ghost on you. Most likely because she got a better offer. You're going up against potential millionaires and actual Sugar Daddies so nothing is set until she's right in front of you.
2- Many of these girls expect something ongoing so if you don't put in the effort to see them at least bi weekly, you'll find yourself on the site repeatedly (at a cost because full membership requires at minimum a month by month payment) messaging new girls and starting the same cycle over and over.
This is where it's better IMO to pay a little more for an hour or two with a pro and not have to worry about all this instability and BS.
I saw Sofia this weekend in her safe new location on the east side. She is the same as always. Wild as ever. Cream pies and anal on the menu. One the last true freaks out there are good looking and get into it. Well worth the experience.