Provider's concession fund
[QUOTE=EaglesSb;4142947]I always ask this question when it comes to helping people. "If I were the one that needed help, can I honestly say that I have no doubt this person would help me the same way I wish to help them", or in your case "If I were the one in jail, would this girl do the same thing I'm doing for her with the same earnestness? Can I honestly say she would?
When you seen her for your sessions you still had to pay. If you showed up without money, you already know what would happen. Again if you were the one behind bars, you think this girl would visit you and put money on your books so you can have small comforts because it was nice and humane? Hell no, but some dudes tend to learn this lesson the hard way, then when the girl gets distant you get mad because of "All the things I did for her and she just left, ungrateful *****! How many dudes on here posted about girls that they had "wonderful, deep, or special" relationships with, only to hear a few weeks / months later she cash and dashed him.
You sound like a good person, you'd be better of donating that to pet shelters or something because the time will come when that girl won't even return your text.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Quebec99;4143740]I guess, with me, I typically don't have the attitude that I will only do something for you if you do the same for me. It's likely she won't do anything for me, but who knows. I do know I logged a lot of hours with her and only donated a fraction of what most girls would get, so if anything, I owe her, I guess. Believe me, whatever I give her, it won't make her rich by any means. It will only provide her with a few comforts. It won't break the bank I assure you. If I can help without compromising my identity, then I don't mind; otherwise, I might not be able to help as anonymity to me is everything.[/QUOTE]It doesn't matter if you are giving money directly to a provider or putting in her commissary fund at the jail, buying her lunch or what, the result will be the same. Are they ever going to give you a freebie or pay you back in any way, highly unlikely unless there is something in it for them. Most, if not all of them will steal you blind given the chance and come back asking for more. However, the same can be said for legitimate charities. When I give donations to my church and other charities of choice, they don't give a rat's ass about me either, other than the fact that they want me to be alive and well so that I can continue to donate to them in the future. So, all charities, be it your church, any one of thousands of "legitimate" charities or your favorite hooker, the bottom line is, that if it makes you feel good to give a few bucks to them, knowing that you won't get anything in return, then by all means do it. It's a highly personal decision, so just do what makes you feel good and hopefully you won't regret your decision.
The simple answer is, they are women and.
[QUOTE=JimmyDeen;4144295]Why don't they want to help us, as we help them? I assume your answer is going to be, because they want drugs, or they want to feel good, because drugs make you feel good. But everybody wants to feel good, so again my question is, why do women fuck men over with no consequences. That goes for women in and out of the game.[/QUOTE]Guys are saps! We, guys, have created the current state of affairs in this hobby. People go see them regardless of how terrible they are. We're (not me) giving them $150 for 30 minutes and the sessions are terrible, to say the least. This is why I stick to 60 so no matter how awful they are, I haven't loss much. And yes, they not only phuck over clients in this hobby, but they do the same to their moms, dads, sisters, brothers, friends; you get the pic. If they will phuck them over, who are we. Most of these girls give a rats ass about clients. This doesn't hurt so much if you already expect this from them, which I do-I'm not delusional like that. I expect no different.
Something I didn't mention before about the girl I am talking about. I actually stopped seeing her a few months ago, before she went away, because I saw her spiraling and it wasn't a good look. I know when to pull back and I never really get too involved in their craziness or drama as I am too busy for that. Also, I never tried to stay with her for those 2-3 hours. She was the one who allowed this. I guess you can say she was a bit of a slow mover. Honestly, I didn't even want to stay that long because I always have stuff to do, but hey, it was nice while it lasted.
Ole Martin Mar is actually another girl you wouldn't mind doing more for
[QUOTE=AMnnos;4145913]Had my 2nd visit with this Irish lass and it was nothing short of fun & thrills. I actually had to pick her up and bring her back to my place due to her current living situation. Because of this she's trying to get back to how her biz was before her lengthy departure. Hopefully it will be soon so she's able to accommodate those wishing an IC visit.
On both visits to my place we got a chance to loosen up and get reacquainted conversing like we were old partners. Her with a glass a wine and me with my brew. After the warm and fuzzy of our drinks set in enough where we felt that time was right to scoot on over to the play room, it was nothing but bliss allowing for 1st hand feel of her bod and the firm bolt-ons that were attached. Suckling and groping on body parts that protruded out from us. All positions to be had and no hint of hurry. Her body on mine, my body on hers, and the taking her from behind (K9) for the finish.
I allowed her to freshen up while I cleaned things up. The drive back to her place was more chit-chat and plans for future visits. Good times that went without a hitch. Thanks Marti.[/QUOTE]Very nice girl, patient, and never really rushes. Her donations are always great to boot! Like me some Marti Mar!
I have heard picking them up fresh from the joint can be a winning situation
[QUOTE=CantB1;4145075]I have put money on a girls books a few years ago. Shit I have even done it over the past few weeks for one. I have driven a few hours away to see a couple of them. I have dropped off and picked up one from rehab. I used to have to resue one from her bf / pimp every few weeks. And sure a lot of times things don't turn out the way I would hope but for the most part I realized that my relationship with each of them is temporary.
My first repeat BP girl on the third date told me I would never have to pay her for pussy again. We just got along that well. Had a crazy summer I was with her seems like every other day.
There is a current provider I put money on her books for two months and did visitations. When she got out she stood me up. Told her I would never do that shit for her again. I'm still somewhat friends with her these four years later. There has been a few freebies back in the day. Even when she was off the market. I have met over a dozen UTRs and providers thru her. I passed on many more than that. She calls me when she has a girl she thinks I might like.
A past forum favorite invited me to meet her as friends. I soon found myself spending hours even overnights with her weekly never charged anything. She would even insist on paying if we went out to eat. That lasted a few months and eventually she disappeared.
I have a FWB I met on BP over two years ago. She had a BP ad up just one day. I contacted her no reply. A few days later she called asked if I still wanted to see her and if I could give her a ride. Lost contact with her for a month but reconnected for the same type deal. Since then we get together almost weekly and hang out.
That's just a few of the "relationships" I have had with girls being a monger. I have monger friends that have the same type of thing with other girls at times.
There is no rule book to being a monger. We all are playing at our own risk. There are SD type mongers paying for apts and cars. Smdh. Rich mongers who take providers off the market. Atleast for a while. Candy mongers that get high with the girls. And most of these dopeboys are the mongers too.[/QUOTE]I mean, this is a time you can probably get some fantastic deals. This is also a time they really need some money and willing to work with you, in my opinion.
Get out of jail free card.
That was my first thought; leverage for getting out of trouble. Otherwise, why save information without first establishing an ongoing relationship and the permission to do so. I had only seen her once.
I have had times in the past where a provider and I had a regular occuring thing, and they had my "information". But I was always asked. That was South Florida though, and the rules, pricing, and quality are much different down there.
My advice is for everyone to switch lines regularly, use a psudonym, and don't give out any other information that could identify you.
-F904.
[QUOTE=Jactionville;4146931]I saw that happen when I lived in Atlanta and Houston. The girls almost always eventually get busted (because, no one can keep secrets, EVER), then they turn over all the information at some point.[/QUOTE]
Privacy and phones, BWAHAHAHAHA
[QUOTE=MFever;4146892]Humm. Reminds me a few years ago in Tampa that collected info and also collected mongers license plat numbers and paired them up in her contact list.
Yeah this isn't cool. Freaks me out on what you are reporting. Red flag!![/QUOTE]If you think your info is confidential, you're, um, naive at best.
Any phone bought in the last decade will keep a list of every number that's called it, and they all have pretty much unlimited phone book space, too. I dunno about you guys, but if I had 1000 girls calling me, I couldn't remember who they were by just their numbers, so I'm pretty sure I'd put their names (or, rather, their working names) in there to keep track. If she's not the crackhead type who loses or gets her phone stolen every 4 days, she'll probably just keep call history in there. When I've switched phones / SIM cards / numbers and I reach out to a girl that I've seen before and want to let them know roughly who I am so my previous good behavior is rewarded, I let them know.
Then again, when I tried that with this one girl, she had no idea who I was, but set up the dream anyways. She didn't recognize me when I got there until I took off my pants, she saw my dick and said "oh yeah, NOW I remember you!" Felt good, man.
Anyways, I've posted before about this: If you have a monger phone that's been turned on near your home, your place of business, your non-monger phone, your vehicle with OnStar or other built-in GPS, or anything else like that, you have done something that's suspicious enough to be looked into if someone cares. Usually, nobody gives a shit. Of course, divorce lawyers and the like usually care more than LEO, but sometimes LEO likes to look like they're doing something "about the problem" (or they're already looking at you for other reasons) and they give a shit.
Any text you send, unless you're one of the very very few who actually know what they're doing, is going to be as private as a postcard, readable by every cell tower, nosy snooping person at the phone company, bozo with electronics in his house and a little too much free time, cop with fake cell tower that they periodically deploy (and get pissy about admitting to it, even when the courts try to make them admit it), etc.
Same goes for email, although it takes a little more effort for someone else to read than texts.
There are some people who've been in the national news recently who thought that WhatsApp was private enough to cover their crimes. They're in prison now.
I agree that writing down license plate numbers and storing them with a monger's name / phone number isn't cool, but it doesn't take much money these days to set up a camera that's small enough to be effectively invisible, and there are some mongers out there that dangerous for the girls (including guys who rip off, rob, and beat them up), so I could understand why they're worried about their safety.
Use your spidey sense, minimize your exposure, prefer to visit ladies with good reputations, actually burn your burner phones periodically, and you'll be less likely to have a problem. But you're still exposing yourself to risk until the puritans (or hypocritical pretend puritans) lose at the ballot box and adults are allowed to have adult fun legally in this country.
