[QUOTE=AKFourtySeven; 1605334]Well of course they suck. Weren't they raided last spring and summer?
Usually service goes down after a raid.[/QUOTE]Why? Why would a raid lower service quality?
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[QUOTE=AKFourtySeven; 1605334]Well of course they suck. Weren't they raided last spring and summer?
Usually service goes down after a raid.[/QUOTE]Why? Why would a raid lower service quality?
[QUOTE=Serpico99; 1607386]You may be declined extras based on a variety of reasons but I would think these are the top three reasons for a provider to not give additional services:
1.) you look like LE (e. G. Buzz cut or short cropped hair)
2.) they just don't find you attractive (e. G. Bad breath, bad body odor, etc.)
3.) you are of a ethnicity that they don't like and thus would probably don't think it's worth the effort to service you[/QUOTE]All true. Especially number 2. Many of you have it and don't know it.
Also, add to that 4) bad attitude
[QUOTE=Cabsauv1997; 1606732.] I've gone to multiple therapists too and each one of them has said something to the effect of "not allowed." YMMV, but this kind of sucks because on the one hand, I don't want them to get busted due to the excellent legit service. On the other hand if they are more accomodating, I'd like to know what the hell I'm doing wrong.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Serpico99; 1607386]You may be declined extras based on a variety of reasons but I would think these are the top three reasons for a provider to not give additional services:
1.) you look like LE (e. G. Buzz cut or short cropped hair)
2.) they just don't find you attractive (e. G. Bad breath, bad body odor, etc.)
3.) you are of a ethnicity that they don't like and thus would probably don't think it's worth the effort to service you[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Hollywood2; 1608661]All true. Especially number 2. Many of you have it and don't know it.
Also, add to that 4) bad attitude[/QUOTE]Welcome to the board, Cabsauv. If none of the above attributes are appropriate in your case, I suggest you try a full service provider from Backpage. A professional provider will generally be more candid about pointing out any significant personal flaws that might be a problem.
[QUOTE=Hollywood2;1608656]Why? Why would a raid lower service quality?[/QUOTE]Well they are going to be more cautious about which services to offer you. They might just do massages only. No extras. I've noticed this in the past.
[QUOTE=Cabsauv1997; 1606732]Not to be too difficult, and I know this is my first post, but I find this hard to believe. I've been to this place a bunch of times (more than 20) for, believe it or not, just a damn good massage, and despite more than a few not-so-subtle hints, there is nothing to be had. I've gone to multiple therapists too and each one of them has said something to the effect of "not allowed."
YMMV, but this kind of sucks because on the one hand, I don't want them to get busted due to the excellent legit service. On the other hand if they are more accomodating, I'd like to know what the hell I'm doing wrong.[/QUOTE]You just did not draw the right therapist. That's all it is at this place.
If you have been in a place 20 times and are not getting what you want, go elsewhere. That is what I do. Kinda frustrating to read about someone scoring and then not getting anywhere yourself. Been there, done that.
As an aside I've cleared my pm box.
[QUOTE=Serpico99; 1607376]I checked out a spot in Loudoun, in the same complex where mongers use to go to be treated like a "king". Those who have been around will know the meaning of that. Anyway, lower level spot, advertising 60 / hr. The ad says there is a shower but I was not offered one. No biggie, I took one before visiting and it was nice to save the extra 20 for something else. Provider was fairly young, maybe in her 30s, I think Chinese, average looking, nothing to get all excited about. No one else was around to choose from. Started off with light massage and excellent long lasting std. Nova with some liberal roaming. Very good massage afterwards. I was allotted the 1 hr. I will make this my main place to go just because of the rate and for a quick AMP fix. Because it's getting cold outside, I think visiting this place at night is fine, the wannabe gangbanger illegals that sometimes hang around in the area don't come out when it gets below 60 degrees anyway. I gave her 50 for tip.
Vetted members can PM for details. I did not get the provider's name as that she was the only one in there.[/QUOTE]Did she have a lot of pimples? It so, I agree, this is a great place.
I came across another review site and I saw a couple of reviews (3 out of 5 stars) for a nail / spa salon in Falls Church. I am not talking about the "450" place, for those familiar with that spot, but rather it's on a street running parallel to Broad.
Anyone have info on it? Feel free to backchannel. I am in the mood to try the nail and spa joints out.
[QUOTE=Kijimuna;1611324]Did she have a lot of pimples? It so, I agree, this is a great place.[/QUOTE]No, she did not.
Reports have it that our Uncle is feeling a bit Frisky. Last Thursday, hit a Springfield place, and even searched a Monger's Car. Today, another spot (not sure, but close to S'field) was hit. Typical hits, Full complement of Police cars, Health guys, and Building / Zoning inspectors. Just PF Harassment! IMHO.
Safe!
Am
Which Springfield place?
[QUOTE=Any Mouse; 1613080]Reports have it that our Uncle is feeling a bit Frisky. Last Thursday, hit a Springfield place, and even searched a Monger's Car. Today, another spot (not sure, but close to S'field) was hit. Typical hits, Full complement of Police cars, Health guys, and Building / Zoning inspectors. Just PF Harassment! IMHO.
Safe! Am[/QUOTE]I imagine a number of us could offer a suggestions where to make some budget cut-backs.
A number of Springfield places received a visit last Thursday; they are receiving visits at least a half dozen times a year vs. 1-2 times a few years ago (without a dozen agencies). Be careful; personally I skip table showers because it seems to be the first place they go.
Haven't posted in long time, but also haven't frequented the k-AMPs either, I gave up based on what Propilot writes to. I went Chinese. I decided to get a f-ing great massage that makes my toes curl. And, I go to the same girls each week (s). They are my friends, we talk and laugh the whole time (90 min) and they will get teasy, flirting the boys, subtle brushes, but I always know what I'm getting. I havn't wasted any $$ for a year. I also stay clean, brush my teeth and have good muscle tone.
Recently though (ok I did) stopped over to the old haunt that used to be the Best place. Nice k-woman, prolly 40'ish, rough edges, nice t-shower, made me ask her to wash the jewels, I told her I wanted a nice hard massage back in the room and she proceeded. She was trying hard, I could tell, but then right before the flip, the feathery touch started and I knew what was coming. But then she sort of stuffed a towel under the package area, started a nice motion, but then I swear she pressed her tongue against my bum. Bam, gone. Might be a cool k-trick, don't know since I couldn't see. Flipped and finished with nice foot massage. I don't even try to grope these older ladies, not my bag. So this trip worked out. .8+.4.
Don't rule out Chinese as only good masseuse. New place in Sterling left me leaving with a Spring in my step. Just a great massage, nice attitude, hard, then swedish with oil, did 90 min, cutish C-girl, straight lighter hair kinda of quiet. Kick ass massage, working all the muscle groups, the flip comes and she work abs and legs, then brushes the privs a little, a little more oil, and then starts in on the king. My lucky day, really. I was in shock. Anyway, .9+.4 for 90 minutes. Worth every penny.
Finally, If you just want the best hard massage in VA, no frills, HPM in Vienna is the ticket.
Stay safe.
[QUOTE=Propilot; 1603298]Buddy you have spoken the truth. In my opinion, most of the AMP girls that work at these places act like they are doing you a big favor by doing their job. Most have a so-so attitude, the massage is lackluster and they barely want to touch you. Then they give you a very mechanical finish. After they finish they want a big tip and most will get upset if the tip is not big enough. As you stated the service provided is so not worth the money, so I have cut down my patronage to the Virginia AMPs by 90 percent.
Every once in a while, you will get a girl that is personable and is has not yet been tainted or jaded. These girls are few and far between. For me it is not cost effective to go to an AMP ten times and only once get a beautiful girl with a very nice attitude and quality service. I can save the money from the other nine times and take a weekend trip once a month or every other month to the Philadelphia AMPs. I will have a better service and attitude from the girls and return with money in my pocket.
Propilot-Always check your six.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Volvos40; 1615572]Haven't posted in long time, but also haven't frequented the k-AMPs either, I gave up based on what Propilot writes to. I went Chinese. I decided to get a f-ing great massage that makes my toes curl. And, I go to the same girls each week (s). They are my friends, we talk and laugh the whole time (90 min) and they will get teasy, flirting the boys, subtle brushes, but I always know what I'm getting. I havn't wasted any $$ for a year. I also stay clean, brush my teeth and have good muscle tone.
Recently though (ok I did) stopped over to the old haunt that used to be the Best place. Nice k-woman, prolly 40'ish, rough edges, nice t-shower, made me ask her to wash the jewels, I told her I wanted a nice hard massage back in the room and she proceeded. She was trying hard, I could tell, but then right before the flip, the feathery touch started and I knew what was coming. But then she sort of stuffed a towel under the package area, started a nice motion, but then I swear she pressed her tongue against my bum. Bam, gone. Might be a cool k-trick, don't know since I couldn't see. Flipped and finished with nice foot massage. I don't even try to grope these older ladies, not my bag. So this trip worked out. .8+.4.
Don't rule out Chinese as only good masseuse. New place in Sterling left me leaving with a Spring in my step. Just a great massage, nice attitude, hard, then swedish with oil, did 90 min, cutish C-girl, straight lighter hair kinda of quiet. Kick ass massage, working all the muscle groups, the flip comes and she work abs and legs, then brushes the privs a little, a little more oil, and then starts in on the king. My lucky day, really. I was in shock. Anyway, .9+.4 for 90 minutes. Worth every penny.
Finally, If you just want the best hard massage in VA, no frills, HPM in Vienna is the ticket.
Stay safe.[/QUOTE]Still so sad that a HJ still costs $.3 to $.6 in NOVA with no real extras. We keep paying, they keep doing HJs only.
PC out
[QUOTE=Serpico99; 1607376]I checked out a spot in Loudoun, in the same complex where mongers use to go to be treated like a "king". Those who have been around will know the meaning of that. Anyway, lower level spot, advertising 60 / hr. The ad says there is a shower but I was not offered one. No biggie, I took one before visiting and it was nice to save the extra 20 for something else. Provider was fairly young, maybe in her 30s, I think Chinese, average looking, nothing to get all excited about. No one else was around to choose from. Started off with light massage and excellent long lasting std. Nova with some liberal roaming. Very good massage afterwards. I was allotted the 1 hr. I will make this my main place to go just because of the rate and for a quick AMP fix. Because it's getting cold outside, I think visiting this place at night is fine, the wannabe gangbanger illegals that sometimes hang around in the area don't come out when it gets below 60 degrees anyway. I gave her 50 for tip.
Vetted members can PM for details. I did not get the provider's name as that she was the only one in there.[/QUOTE]Went back, got Judy as my therapist, straight light brown hair, average body, cute face. One thing that was different was that she put Dial soap on me. I thought she was doing a Nuru thing but when I looked over, I saw the bottle of Dial soap. She spread it over me up then took a wash cloth and a bucket and wiped me down (I was face down). That's weird. She allowed roaming but not as liberal as the previous provider I had. Went through the same motions as before so I left satisfied. Excellent massage.
Anybody know why Peach has quit advertizing on both CL and BP? They have been consistent in making both sites every day until this past Wed, then nothing? Just wondering if this is the final result of their earlier problem.
I saw an ad for Peach on CL last week? I haven't looked lately.
I will be in the NoVa area later this week and am in need of a recommendation for a massage provider. I have been debating on:
[url]http://nova.backpage.com/BodyRubs/warm-sweet-massage-seduction-by-samantha-29/4525302[/url]
Any intel? A friendly PM would be appreciated.
[QUOTE=Roger1286; 1620156]I will be in the NoVa area later this week and am in need of a recommendation for a massage provider. I have been debating on:
[url]http://nova.backpage.com/BodyRubs/warm-sweet-massage-seduction-by-samantha-29/4525302[/url]
Any intel? A friendly PM would be appreciated[/QUOTE]Where in NOVA? There are lots of reliable Thai providers closer to Fairfax than DC.
[QUOTE=Roger1286; 1620156]I will be in the NoVa area later this week and am in need of a recommendation for a massage provider. I have been debating on:
[url]http://nova.backpage.com/BodyRubs/warm-sweet-massage-seduction-by-samantha-29/4525302[/url]
Any intel? A friendly PM would be appreciated[/QUOTE]I tried to connect with her a couple years back but the logistics didn't work out. She's been advertising on and off for a while. And based on reviews elsewhere she is legit. Probably in her 30's. That's not her pic. I'd ask if she'll send you a real one.
My ATF for serious massage with service is not in town right now or I'd recommend her.
[QUOTE=Roger1286; 1620156]I will be in the NoVa area later this week and am in need of a recommendation for a massage provider. I have been debating on:
[url]http://nova.backpage.com/BodyRubs/warm-sweet-massage-seduction-by-samantha-29/4525302[/url]
Any intel? A friendly PM would be appreciated[/QUOTE]Saw her a couple years ago. Nothing like the photo, but attractive (dancer's body) Eastern European woman. I asked for 1 hour, she gave me a 35 minute rubdown with baby oil, then asked me to massage her, then she was rather eager to make it all end. 45 minutes and I was out the door.
The massage itself was too light and did nothing for me.
[QUOTE=Ready; 1614826]I imagine a number of us could offer a suggestions where to make some budget cut-backs.
A number of Springfield places received a visit last Thursday; they are receiving visits at least a half dozen times a year vs. 1-2 times a few years ago (without a dozen agencies). Be careful; personally I skip table showers because it seems to be the first place they go.[/QUOTE]I used to be a monger from NoVA and moved to Miami a half year ago (dropped my old handle for new stomping grounds). I'm back in town for the weekend and thought I'd get a massage for my sore muscles. I used to frequent a couple in the mixing bowl area; a place a little south where the rain flowed and one just NW (can't for the life of me remember the name but it's in the basement of a little office building right near Beauregard and Duke St). Wondering if either or both might have been one of the number? Or if anyone knows which might be more enjoyable right now?
Other suggestions in the mixing bowl area or backchannel always appreciated.
[QUOTE=PHB3512; 1623059]I used to be a monger from NoVA and moved to Miami a half year ago (dropped my old handle for new stomping grounds). I'm back in town for the weekend and thought I'd get a massage for my sore muscles. I used to frequent a couple in the mixing bowl area; a place a little south where the rain flowed and one just NW (can't for the life of me remember the name but it's in the basement of a little office building right near Beauregard and Duke St). Wondering if either or both might have been one of the number? Or if anyone knows which might be more enjoyable right now?
Other suggestions in the mixing bowl area or backchannel always appreciated.[/QUOTE]So I didn't hear any feedback and my muscles were really sore so I decided to check out rain flow. I figured worst case mms or the girl I used to see would at least recognize me and they did just have a BP ad today. Well the first bad sign should have been that no one answered the phone but little brain was too much of an optimist for that to phase him. When I got there, downstairs door was locked, no sign and no hint of life. Guess either rain flow was hit by uncle, they're laying low for a bit with all the uncle activity or I am really unlucky and picked the one day / time they all decide to leave work and get manny / peddys.
[QUOTE=PHB3512; 1623059]I used to be a monger from NoVA and moved to Miami a half year ago (dropped my old handle for new stomping grounds). I'm back in town for the weekend and thought I'd get a massage for my sore muscles. I used to frequent a couple in the mixing bowl area; a place a little south where the rain flowed and one just NW (can't for the life of me remember the name but it's in the basement of a little office building right near Beauregard and Duke St). Wondering if either or both might have been one of the number? Or if anyone knows which might be more enjoyable right now?
Other suggestions in the mixing bowl area or backchannel always appreciated.[/QUOTE]Why would you drop your "old handle" just because you moved 6 months ago to a new location? You should log in with your old handle otherwise statements like yours send up an immediate red flag.
[QUOTE=Serpico99;1623577]Why would you drop your "old handle" just because you moved 6 months ago to a new location? You should log in with your old handle otherwise statements like yours send up an immediate red flag.[/QUOTE]I mainly dropped it because it was associated with an email address I ended up using with some non-hobby situations and it was unique enough that googling it could conceivably find hobbying mentions (USERNAME@gmail = USERNAME here). Basically as I was going through divorce I used my discrete email for online dating while I was separated and once the divorce went thru, some of those contacts became more than just ************* type one night stands I'd never talk to again. It wasn't really memorable enough to garner any board trust anyway so I guess I should have not even mentioned it at all.
Doesn't matter now anyway, I went for rain flow in the good time window I had and they're shut down or closed.
Strange running into a therapist after a decade or more. As many of you know I could often be found at any of the numerous Korean night clubs in the area years ago. They are almost extinct as the real estate and construction busts have killed off their client base. I wandered into Mickey place seeking some relief for my aging bones. I knew Mickey as another name when she used to own a huge Korean night club in Falls Church. She didn't seem to recognize me, as I was dressed very differently as I would at the night clubs. Anyway "Mickey" is still a stunning lady. She has an incredible body and a very sexy smirk. During the small talked she spoke of her diet and exercise regiment being quite extreme. She makes her employees follow the same regiment. I saw two other ladies in passing and it is obvious it works. They were stunning. I did not wish to remind her as to I am as I did not want to make her feel bad about her tumble from the near top of the Korean social ladder to her present situation. I also thought she would pressure me for more green Jacksons as she knew the funds were available. It would appear that Mickey's gimmick will be to have very fit, sexy, and engaging ladies working there. She knows that other places have the older ladies that we settle for or younger ones that are chubby, skinny, or generally not very attractive. My
Hope is that she maintains a group of very desirable ladies in a low profile "legit business."
My session was that of a new client and ended quickly, but happily. (Quickly was my fault. I am getting old) The place appears to be a very legit and the session finale is a last minute call depending on how comfortable she is with you. I will let you know if if being a regular increases services. I will also try to draw one of Mickey's protégés without drawing ire. I am sure Mickey is not always there. Tip was. 40 on top off the house. 80.
Wishing everyone Piece on Earth, or wherever you can get it.
I was in my old haunts in Herndon late last night and decided to visit Honto and was surprised to see it closed. Swung by old Herndon Therapy."Chloe" was in attendance.
Chloe is slim. 40-50 in age, with plumpy lips (collagen?) , hides her face with her hair.
8 for 1 hour house fee. Very good table shower. Light massage, good scrub with attention paid to feet (?) and backside. 2 mins in the sauna to dry up. And then a good old fashioned AMP massage. Hard, punishing and very welcome for my tired muscles. Roaming allowed all over. Good teasing before the flip. The finish was standard NOVA using cream instead of the oil that I usually prefer, but this was nice too.
Gave. 4 tips and heard some grumbling which quietened down when I pointed out that I had been there only for 50 mins instead of the promised 1 hour.
Will I repeat? I think I went there only because it was almost closing time at most AMPs and I didn't have enough time to research other places.
[QUOTE=PHB3512; 1623059]I used to be a monger from NoVA and moved to Miami a half year ago (dropped my old handle for new stomping grounds). I'm back in town for the weekend and thought I'd get a massage for my sore muscles. I used to frequent a couple in the mixing bowl area; a place a little south where the rain flowed and one just NW (can't for the life of me remember the name but it's in the basement of a little office building right near Beauregard and Duke St). Wondering if either or both might have been one of the number? Or if anyone knows which might be more enjoyable right now?
Other suggestions in the mixing bowl area or backchannel always appreciated.[/QUOTE]What was your old handle then?
PC out
Decided to do a western trip to Loco. I'll make it brief.
Tried to put Spring in my step where King was before, met Judy, but she was busy come back later. So, no luck and no door bell really dark inside dingy and uncle was watching
Visited Capital near where Aroma was and drew pimples I don't know her name. Massage was ok, finish perfunctory, roaming not encouraged and no extras to be noted and one girl was wearing jeans and a winter jacket offering to do massage.
Lastly, went for a Swan dive, greeted by Jun or Jin and similar results with massage, finish was happy, roaming was beter, nice headlights particulary those nipples are so suckable.
Overall, just some handshakes with a desire for the memories of the King treatment.
Good day
Sorry, one quick follow up to note from my previous post. Rates down by. 2 at all locations for hourat.6, economy / market / grand open special?
Does anyone know why Honto shut down? Tina was my ATF. Liked them much better than the place across the street.
[QUOTE=Ted Williams; 1626667]Decided to do a western trip to Loco. I'll make it brief.
Tried to put Spring in my step where King was before, met Judy, but she was busy come back later. So, no luck and no door bell really dark inside dingy and uncle was watching
Visited Capital near where Aroma was and drew pimples I don't know her name. Massage was ok, finish perfunctory, roaming not encouraged and no extras to be noted and one girl was wearing jeans and a winter jacket offering to do massage.
Lastly, went for a Swan dive, greeted by Jun or Jin and similar results with massage, finish was happy, roaming was beter, nice headlights particulary those nipples are so suckable.
Overall, just some handshakes with a desire for the memories of the King treatment.
Good day[/QUOTE]So Swan across the street from Capital use to just tease. Are they offering more now?
Hello All,
It has been a while since I posted, I had to change screen names due to a security concern. But I wanted to give a warning, I have been out of the game for a while and decided to give Jin a call for a massage, she was a thin asian lady who gave a great massage and left you with a smile. Well there was no answer, but a couple mins later I received a text asking if I wanted an appointment. I figured she was busy now but could squeze me in later. I replied yes and was told she was now out in Herndon. So, off I went to the address that was given. I arrived and parked and called back but no response, so I sent a text say I had arrived. A few mins later I get a text saying just a min. So I wait and I ask where am I Headed as it is a large apt complex. I get told to look down the street and walk to a hotel. RED FLAG, But alas, I was stupid and I did, I went up to the room and a short white girl answers the door, I turn and walk away saying I am sorry wrong room. Get back to my car and I see I received another txt but it was sent by her saying "Stupid ass thought he was going to a spa". I never said that to her, so I do not know what the deal is, police? Phone theft? Ect. But be careful.
Keep Safe
[QUOTE=Ted Williams;1626673]Sorry, one quick follow up to note from my previous post. Rates down by. 2 at all locations for hourat.6, economy / market / grand open special?[/QUOTE]I think all the KAMPs are still $80 for the hr. Some AMPs have gone down to $60 again but not that many as far as I see.
PC out
The business across the street now has a security camera aimed at the front door to the AMP. It was not there two weeks ago, I looked.
Was in the mood for something quick and close so I stopped by Miko's. MMS & provider are both middle age Chinese women. Handsome, but that's about it. Paid for half hour but got full hour. No extras offered (or desired, for that matter). Damn fine massage, though.
From what I was told by a friend Asian Jin of Fair Oaks left the business awhile ago, back about the time all the spas and providers got busted in Vienna. She was not one of the ladies arrested but it apparently sufficiently frightened her for her to stop. Sad day as she gave a high quality massage.
[QUOTE=DivingFool; 1629376]Hello All,
It has been a while since I posted, I had to change screen names due to a security concern. But I wanted to give a warning, I have been out of the game for a while and decided to give Jin a call for a massage, she was a thin asian lady who gave a great massage and left you with a smile. Well there was no answer, but a couple mins later I received a text asking if I wanted an appointment. I figured she was busy now but could squeze me in later. I replied yes and was told she was now out in Herndon. So, off I went to the address that was given. I arrived and parked and called back but no response, so I sent a text say I had arrived. A few mins later I get a text saying just a min. So I wait and I ask where am I Headed as it is a large apt complex. I get told to look down the street and walk to a hotel. RED FLAG, But alas, I was stupid and I did, I went up to the room and a short white girl answers the door, I turn and walk away saying I am sorry wrong room. Get back to my car and I see I received another txt but it was sent by her saying "Stupid ass thought he was going to a spa". I never said that to her, so I do not know what the deal is, police? Phone theft? Ect. But be careful.
Keep Safe[/QUOTE]
Hey guys. Took at trip to G&G last week. The spot is in a great location away from traffic. It was my first time there so I went for 30min. My provider was young and cute, but massage was subpar. Standard nova ending and rates. I may repeat with another provider.
Stay safe!
So, these girls come and go, and as I no longer go the K-route, I went back to Swan to try a new Chinese girl, Mary. Petite girl that speaks zero English (that can be challenging). She does a firm, probably deep-tissue massage that is just awesome. Concluded the back part with some lovely teasing, then on the flip got a little giggly. But she got the job done and it was a great massage. It was. 9 for 90 minutes and. 4 tip, and she seemed pleased. It was a good time for sure.
[QUOTE=Volvos40;1636201]So, these girls come and go, and as I no longer go the K-route, I went back to Swan to try a new Chinese girl, Mary. Petite girl that speaks zero English (that can be challenging). She does a firm, probably deep-tissue massage that is just awesome. Concluded the back part with some lovely teasing, then on the flip got a little giggly. But she got the job done and it was a great massage. It was. 9 for 90 minutes and. 4 tip, and she seemed pleased. It was a good time for sure.[/QUOTE]Swan Sterling or Swan Alexandria?