Can't believe I missed the sign on jhh. Any help on the new locale via pm would be appreciated.
I went to ML and met BeBe looks 7 massage 8 service 9. Nice time. Table shower, aimed to please, very playful. 1.7
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Can't believe I missed the sign on jhh. Any help on the new locale via pm would be appreciated.
I went to ML and met BeBe looks 7 massage 8 service 9. Nice time. Table shower, aimed to please, very playful. 1.7
[QUOTE=Butter Dog; 1709334]You have to be sh*tting me. That's practically across the street from a school. Yeah, I'd say it's real temporary.
BD[/QUOTE]Each corner, finger licking good?
GTR
[QUOTE=Cream; 1709481]Can't believe I missed the sign on jhh. Any help on the new locale via pm would be appreciated.
I went to ML and met BeBe looks 7 massage 8 service 9. Nice time. Table shower, aimed to please, very playful. 1.7[/QUOTE]Thjanks for the info on ML. It's a lot closer for me than the Hospital's location. It would be nice if ML has returned to its old service standards.
Anyone have any experience at the new place in Columbia? Seen it on CL, seems direct competition to another location. If anyone has any feedback and if its legit let me know. PM me if you don't want it out there. I will return the favor.
I have a report on this place for interested seniors. Send a PM. I'd be interested in reports on this place and other places in Columbia that others have been to.
RnR
Hold up. ML is not like it used to be! Say it aint so!
Was planning an AMP run this weekend and was definitely looking forward to ML!
[QUOTE=PaulHahn3;1709689]Thjanks for the info on ML. It's a lot closer for me than the Hospital's location. It would be nice if ML has returned to its old service standards.[/QUOTE]
Has anyone been to VR lately? Any reviews or suggestions? I was surprised to see them advertise on the daily deal sites like groupon, sweetjack and etc. [url]http://www.sweetjack.com/local/deal/baltimore/vitareviveorganicwellness[/url]
[QUOTE=MrWilliams; 1711332]Hold up. ML is not like it used to be! Say it aint so!
Was planning an AMP run this weekend and was definitely looking forward to ML![/QUOTE]ML went through a rough patch recently. I am going to give it a try again as I've seen a couple of postive reviews recently here and on another site. I'll let everyone know how it goes.
VR is a legit spa with extras if you negotiate well. I would avoid Julia, weak massage and generally has an attitude. The other ladies are more voluptuous (if that's your taste) and more open. Just be prepared to overpay for services. Up to $$$ for house and tips.
Their is a story in the Towson Patch.
[QUOTE=PurePressure;1711854]VR is a legit spa with extras if you negotiate well. I would avoid Julia, weak massage and generally has an attitude. The other ladies are more voluptuous (if that's your taste) and more open. Just be prepared to overpay for services. Up to $$$ for house and tips.[/QUOTE]Thank you for the intel. Much appreciated.
VR is top $$ for limited service.
[QUOTE=DCHung; 1711367]Has anyone been to VR lately? Any reviews or suggestions? I was surprised to see them advertise on the daily deal sites like groupon, sweetjack and etc.
[url]http://www.sweetjack.com/local/deal/baltimore/vitareviveorganicwellness[/url][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Satya;1711886]Their is a story in the Towson Patch.[/QUOTE]Yup. They actually updated the article again this afternoon:
[url]http://towson.patch.com/articles/towson-woman-charged-with-human-trafficking-prostitution[/url]
[QUOTE=Firefly2010;1712037]VR is top $$ for limited service.[/QUOTE]Yes limited but it is also YMMV since if you know some of the TBC girls from the past there and you have a history with them.
What I find really interesting are the comments after the article. The human trafficking crowd is getting its groove on pushing their strawman on the public. Thanks to the one guy who tried to present some truth to their comments section. A call out to the more eloquent amongst us (Lexluther and Bench). I call on you to keep their strawman in check.
[QUOTE=The NewGuy; 1712205]Yup. They actually updated the article again this afternoon:
[url]http://towson.patch.com/articles/towson-woman-charged-with-human-trafficking-prostitution[/url][/QUOTE]
Rather long (and ugly) article on JHH.
[url]http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/baltimore-county/towson/bs-md-co-prostitution-bust-20130320[/url].0, 3023470. Story.
I have to admit. As much as I liked the place. They were really throwing it in the face of LE. I feel bad for all involved.
I certainly never got the impression anyone working there was forced into it.
No surprise. But the article mentions the police are aware of other AMP's in the same area.
[QUOTE=Zappa3;1712336]What I find really interesting are the comments after the article. The human trafficking crowd is getting its groove on pushing their strawman on the public. Thanks to the one guy who tried to present some truth to their comments section. A call out to the more eloquent amongst us (Lexluther and Bench). I call on you to keep their strawman in check.[/QUOTE]The Baltimore Sun had an article about it too tonight:
[url]http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/baltimore-county/towson/bs-md-co-prostitution-bust-20130320[/url].0, 3023470. Story
We basically lost another establishment for someone not remember the rules of Fight Club... check the article above for some details...
[QUOTE=The NewGuy; 1712435]The Baltimore Sun had an article about it too tonight:
[url]http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/baltimore-county/towson/bs-md-co-prostitution-bust-20130320[/url]
0, 3023470. Story.
We basically lost another establishment for someone not remember the rules of Fight Club. Check the article above for some details.[/QUOTE]It is amazing they were raided 5 times in the past and reopened in the same spot. Using human trafficking laws brings it up into a whole new level of risk for owners.
Who gets the stupid award?
The guy who told cops he got a blowjob?
The ugly assed neighbor that called and complained? Or zgang who didn't have a License and basically invited cops to bust her? I will miss this place, especially Victoria and Anna! Victoria mainly!
Really, who would call the police because guys are going in and out of a house? People need to mind there own business. It's sex! Towson police need to find something else to do besides bother these people! For gods sake, please legalize weed and prostitution! The government could get out of debt within a yr.
The link did not work.
[QUOTE=The NewGuy; 1712435]The Baltimore Sun had an article about it too tonight:
[url]http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/baltimore-county/towson/bs-md-co-prostitution-bust-20130320[/url]
0, 3023470. Story.
We basically lost another establishment for someone not remember the rules of Fight Club. Check the article above for some details.[/QUOTE]
I fixed the url link below.
[QUOTE=ApthyCat;1712382]certainly never got the impression anyone working there was forced into it.[/QUOTE]I agree about JHH. But if you read the article, it sounds like Zhang had another operation going on at a hotel nearby, and maybe that is what resulted in the more serious charges.
[QUOTE=ApthyCat; 1712382]Rather long (and ugly) article on JHH.
[url]http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/baltimore-county/towson/bs-md-co-prostitution-bust-20130320,0,2412868,full.story[/url]
I have to admit. As much as I liked the place. They were really throwing it in the face of LE. I feel bad for all involved.
I certainly never got the impression anyone working there was forced into it.[/QUOTE]
From the [I]Sun [/I]Article:
"On March 4, detectives with the Baltimore County vice unit kept watch on the house. They observed a man entering the back door, they said in charging documents, and watched as he left less than an h our later. An officer in a marked patrol car stopped the man, who said he had been greeted by a woman who called herself "Sylvia." He said he told her he wanted an hourlong massage, which she said would cost $70. The man said he was taken to a room on the second floor of the house, where he was given a back massage. The woman also performed oral sex on the man, police say, and he gave her a $60 tip."
I know this may have gone down some other way, but, 'nothing like handing it to them on a silver platter. I wonder what probable cause the cop had to stop the guy. Burned out tail light?
[QUOTE=Max #01; 1713098]From the [I]Sun [/I]Article:
"On March 4, detectives with the Baltimore County vice unit kept watch on the house. They observed a man entering the back door, they said in charging documents, and watched as he left less than an h our later. An officer in a marked patrol car stopped the man, who said he had been greeted by a woman who called herself "Sylvia." He said he told her he wanted an hourlong massage, which she said would cost $70. The man said he was taken to a room on the second floor of the house, where he was given a back massage. The woman also performed oral sex on the man, police say, and he gave her a $60 tip."
I know this may have gone down some other way, but, 'nothing like handing it to them on a silver platter. I wonder what probable cause the cop had to stop the guy. Burned out tail light?[/QUOTE]Best to say nothing but if you want to say something say you were just looking for a massage and it was so bad you couldn't wait to get out of there.
Or you could say you thought it was a Jjimjilbang.
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jjimjilbang[/url]
[QUOTE=Max #01; 1713098]From the [I]Sun [/I]Article:
"On March 4, detectives with the Baltimore County vice unit kept watch on the house. They observed a man entering the back door, they said in charging documents, and watched as he left less than an h our later. An officer in a marked patrol car stopped the man, who said he had been greeted by a woman who called herself "Sylvia." He said he told her he wanted an hourlong massage, which she said would cost $70. The man said he was taken to a room on the second floor of the house, where he was given a back massage. The woman also performed oral sex on the man, police say, and he gave her a $60 tip."
I know this may have gone down some other way, but, 'nothing like handing it to them on a silver platter. I wonder what probable cause the cop had to stop the guy. Burned out tail light?[/QUOTE]I just don't understand why he would say anything. All you have to say is that you received a massage and left. Nothing else. That is crazy. No proof of anything and they only would be able to get them on that BS license violation charge or something like that. He provided them with probable cause to go in to the place. That is just crazy. If it is a business, it is expected that people will be going in and out so that is all they would have.
[QUOTE=Blkninj01;1713128]I just don't understand why he would say anything. All you have to say is that you received a massage and left. Nothing else. That is crazy. No proof of anything and they only would be able to get them on that BS license violation charge or something like that. He provided them with probable cause to go in to the place. That is just crazy. If it is a business, it is expected that people will be going in and out so that is all they would have.[/QUOTE]Because people panic and / or are stupid.
[QUOTE=Blkninj01;1713128]I just don't understand why he would say anything.[/QUOTE]Who is to say that this was the first guy they stopped? Enough of us know sense not to talk. But not everyone. All Uncle Leo had to do was just keep casting his net again and again until ultimately he reeled in the big one.
BD
Amen. No matter what they say don't trust them. Keep your mouth shut and make the po po work for it.
[QUOTE=Butter Dog; 1713161]Who is to say that this was the first guy they stopped? Enough of us know sense not to talk. But not everyone. All Uncle Leo had to do was just keep casting his net again and again until ultimately he reeled in the big one.
BD[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Zappa3;1712336]What I find really interesting are the comments after the article. The human trafficking crowd is getting its groove on pushing their strawman on the public. Thanks to the one guy who tried to present some truth to their comments section. A call out to the more eloquent amongst us (Lexluther and Bench). I call on you to keep their strawman in check.[/QUOTE]I do not doubt that human trafficing exists and happens within the massage community. Before I really got to know a dozen or so of these women, I used to wonder and worry if that was going on.
The vast majority of these women are in their 40's. Have families, have boy friends, or husbands (many have ex-husbands). They have a large circle of friends that all do the same thing. Many of them own homes in LA suburbs, Las Vegas, or Long Island. Or have fairly nice apartments in Flushing, Queens. They come and go from their base of operations as the please. No one is trafficing them.
JHH is done and there is more to it behind the scenes as there always is. I am not going to add to the story but I know some things, which I will keep to myself, which has turned me away from Lilly and her establishments. Also I don't think many of the women who were in her sphere will come back either. The only provider who I will visit that is in any way connected to her is Anna and that is because she is special to me and really needs support on a personal basis. I am very pissed off by something Lilly has done.
I visited one of the newest places today but will post no details on this forum. I know this is no help to anyone but I will repeat and the 2 providers I saw there are spinners and one of them had the biggest Bush I have seen in a long time, that may be a clue to some of you who has been to Blue Sky now closed. I'll take PMs from those seniors I know.
Satya
[QUOTE=Jmswozniak;1713166]Amen. No matter what they say don't trust them. Keep your mouth shut and make the po po work for it.[/QUOTE]I always say that if they are asking you if something happened then there is a good chance that they do not know everything. It is almost like LE knocking on doors with his ticket book in his hand and asking if you ran any red lights today. And me saying "Yes I did but I was also speeding earlier too" so he can give me a ticket.
[QUOTE=Blkninj01;1713573]I always say that if they are asking you if something happened then there is a good chance that they do not know everything.[/QUOTE]I essentially agree with this, but not exactly. I believe they are looking for a statement that can be used in a court of law.
I usually don't report on my escapades in the open forum, but I'm 100% certain that I will remain silent if I'm ever questioned by anyone when I walk out of an AMP.
Years ago ULE found a SW with me in my parked car, they followed me after the scoop. I spotted them driving toward me and I got adequately covered up very quickly. They didn't actually see anything, but they knew what was happening. They separated me from the SW and questioned both of us separately. I insisted we were just talking. She insisted we were just talking. No charges. No subsequent problems. Nothing on my record.
I might have been living under a rock lately, but reading the online article from the Sunpapers has me wondering. First of all, the cheap-ass monger snitch who only dropped a sixty dollar tip for a blow job (bad form my man). Second, I have never known JHH to place any ads in any medium, let alone outcall ads. Third, JHH sending an outcall to a local motel, they would have just said "not busy, come now".
The one thing in the article I do believe, is that probably more than once, a young drunk monger made his way to Joppa Road, and knocked on the wrong door. Once again proving the need to RTFF. Come on guys, even the dumbest of us should know better than to go somewhere, we are not familiar with, and blindly go knocking on doors.
I, think the lesson learned, is to be frugal with specifics, and only share true treasures with trusted members. Specifically by PM. Nuff said. Satty, I'm waiting for you to find fault with any of my rantings, apparently you have the inside track on all things JHH.
Stay sexy Balto. County!
GTR
[QUOTE=Blkninj01;1713573]I always say that if they are asking you if something happened then there is a good chance that they do not know everything. It is almost like LE knocking on doors with his ticket book in his hand and asking if you ran any red lights today. And me saying "Yes I did but I was also speeding earlier too" so he can give me a ticket.[/QUOTE]No one here knows who the guy was who made the incriminating remarks to LE. Why, then, does everyone automatically belief he was casually stupid? What if he weren't. It's entirely possible he was a snitch deliberately sent in to get probable cause. Why would he do such a thing? Perhaps LE had something on him far more serious than a prostitution beef, which they likely won't prosecute anyway. If LE is really bound and determined to get someone, they will. They might, in the end, not get a conviction, but the cost and inconvenience to the person charged is often devastating nevertheless.
[QUOTE=Steverino1968;1713849]No one here knows who the guy was who made the incriminating remarks to LE. Why, then, does everyone automatically belief he was casually stupid? What if he weren't. It's entirely possible he was a snitch deliberately sent in to get probable cause. Why would he do such a thing? Perhaps LE had something on him far more serious than a prostitution beef, which they likely won't prosecute anyway. If LE is really bound and determined to get someone, they will. They might, in the end, not get a conviction, but the cost and inconvenience to the person charged is often devastating nevertheless.[/QUOTE]I've often wondered about this myself. I've never heard anyone on here report being questioned by LE, and the closest I've come, is being warned by the girls not to talk to anyone if questioned. I have a hard time imagining that someone would just spill their guts unless they, in their minds, had good reason to. I'd love to know what that reason might be.
Stopped by here becuase it's close. Got BBBJ for under $ on top of house fee.
There is a massuese in Laurel advertising on BP anyone know of her who can PM me?
Me think you doth protest too much. Just kidding.
I thought that they most likely stopped a lot of people leaving here and more than likely some snitched and some did not. Has anyone ever seen the advertisement reported in the paper? I am skeptical. As far as neighborhood complaints, who wouldn't complain after Johnny law makes so many visits to your business. I thought it only a matter of time after the first recent problem a few months ago. ML is likely next to go.
[QUOTE=Steverino1968;1713849]No one here knows who the guy was who made the incriminating remarks to LE. Why, then, does everyone automatically belief he was casually stupid? What if he weren't. It's entirely possible he was a snitch deliberately sent in to get probable cause. Why would he do such a thing? Perhaps LE had something on him far more serious than a prostitution beef, which they likely won't prosecute anyway. If LE is really bound and determined to get someone, they will. They might, in the end, not get a conviction, but the cost and inconvenience to the person charged is often devastating nevertheless.[/QUOTE]Me
[QUOTE=Zappa3;1713005]The link did not work.[/QUOTE][url]Http://articles.baltimoresun.com/2013-03-21/news/bs-md-co-prostitution-bust-20130320_1_federal-agents-brothel-prostitution[/url]
A little nervous about AMP since fate of JHH. Decided to try old favorite. Saw young lady "Sylbia". Great visit. Lots of attention throughout appointment.
Massage: 6-7.
Attentive attitude:9.
Special treats: 9.
Looks: 7-8.
Felt safe, yet she was very cautious at first.
Be safe
I was in the Columbia area during yesterday's messy weather. Meeting cancelled. But I had it in mind already to try DS sometime. I won't bother again. Pretty much standard rates for massage, but very ordinary service. Actually, a bit worse than ordinary. Not terrible-just blah all around.