Strip Club Reports

[QUOTE=Chaparrolo;3006341]So, first of all thanks to ozymandias for the info about the VIP at follies, now, I made my way there on Saturday night and after a few minutes of been inside I spotted the girl I wanted (tall slim brown skin girl probably about 5'9) gave me some weird name sounded kind of asian nickname who knows I don't remember clearly I was kind of tipsy, anyway, I got my two dances with her and I asked her About going to VIP, I acted like I didn't know the house fee, blah blah, long story short, we agreed to go to VIP for 52 for the house and I offered her 140 $ with full service, then when we finally went in there we sat down talked for about three good minutes then I had to asked her to get down to business and that's when my nightmare started, basically she declined to do what we had dealed to do, she had excuses like; its two other girls in here and they going see me, can I just take your number and meet you outside after I'm done working blah blah blah, Man! I was pissed and with a hard willie! Then she had the courage to offer me dances for the money I gave her I was like b*tch if that was the case I wouldn't have had to waste all this damn money just to get what I can get out there on the floor! So I asked her to just Go, so she basically played me, What did I do wrong guys?? Help! It was my first attempt to get full service in VIP and in a club period![/QUOTE]This is my opinion based on my experiences only. I was also there Saturday and Friday. There is now a large amount of ROB's at follies now. In order to score at follies successfully without worry about being suckered you need to get there early as Oz stated. If I get there after 2 pm I just enjoy my time and don't push it. Also, the dances never lie. If she ain't basically fucking you on the floor she ain't going to do it in the VIP. Do not think with he little head, getting dances from super bad bitches that gave good dances but not too freaky burned me both times. The chick I had was one of the better looking and gave me minimal stick play. I now see inset myself up. Find one who stick shifts like she wants you to nut on the floor, also it seems as though being direct about extras upfront doesn't work anymore. I have started letting the dances offer the play time and that works. All the ones I've banged recently openly asked if I want to film I. I have gotten got twice in the last four months and both times were early evening around 7 pm. I honestly don't know where to get extras on night shift in Atlanta.

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[QUOTE=NewDude;3006364]This is my opinion based on my experiences only. I was also there Saturday and Friday. There is now a large amount of ROB's at follies now. In order to score at follies successfully without worry about being suckered you need to get there early as Oz stated. If I get there after 2 pm I just enjoy my time and don't push it. Also, the dances never lie. If she ain't basically fucking you on the floor she ain't going to do it in the VIP. Do not think with he little head, getting dances from super bad bitches that gave good dances but not too freaky burned me both times. The chick I had was one of the better looking and gave me minimal stick play. I now see inset myself up. Find one who stick shifts like she wants you to nut on the floor, also it seems as though being direct about extras upfront doesn't work anymore. I have started letting the dances offer the play time and that works. All the ones I've banged recently openly asked if I want to film I. I have gotten got twice in the last four months and both times were early evening around 7 pm. I honestly don't know where to get extras on night shift in Atlanta.[/QUOTE]

[URL]http://www.atlnightspots.com/crazy-horse-saloon-and-pink-pony-south-lost-their-strip-club-licenses/[/URL]

[QUOTE=Chaparrolo;3006341]So, first of all thanks to ozymandias for the info about the VIP at follies, now, I made my way there on Saturday night and after a few minutes of been inside I spotted the girl I wanted (tall slim brown skin girl probably about 5'9) gave me some weird name sounded kind of asian nickname who knows I don't remember clearly I was kind of tipsy, anyway, I got my two dances with her and I asked her About going to VIP, I acted like I didn't know the house fee, blah blah, long story short, we agreed to go to VIP for 52 for the house and I offered her 140 $ with full service, then when we finally went in there we sat down talked for about three good minutes then I had to asked her to get down to business and that's when my nightmare started, basically she declined to do what we had dealed to do, she had excuses like; its two other girls in here and they going see me, can I just take your number and meet you outside after I'm done working blah blah blah, Man! I was pissed and with a hard willie! Then she had the courage to offer me dances for the money I gave her I was like b*tch if that was the case I wouldn't have had to waste all this damn money just to get what I can get out there on the floor! So I asked her to just Go, so she basically played me, What did I do wrong guys?? Help! It was my first attempt to get full service in VIP and in a club period![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Chaparrolo;3006341]So, first of all thanks to ozymandias for the info about the VIP at follies, now, I made my way there on Saturday night and after a few minutes of been inside I spotted the girl I wanted (tall slim brown skin girl probably about 5'9) gave me some weird name sounded kind of asian nickname who knows I don't remember clearly I was kind of tipsy, anyway, I got my two dances with her and I asked her About going to VIP, I acted like I didn't know the house fee, blah blah, long story short, we agreed to go to VIP for 52 for the house and I offered her 140 $ with full service, then when we finally went in there we sat down talked for about three good minutes then I had to asked her to get down to business and that's when my nightmare started, basically she declined to do what we had dealed to do, she had excuses like; its two other girls in here and they going see me, can I just take your number and meet you outside after I'm done working blah blah blah, Man! I was pissed and with a hard willie! Then she had the courage to offer me dances for the money I gave her I was like b*tch if that was the case I wouldn't have had to waste all this damn money just to get what I can get out there on the floor! So I asked her to just Go, so she basically played me, What did I do wrong guys?? Help! It was my first attempt to get full service in VIP and in a club period![/QUOTE]You got scammed in follies of all places?

Follies is WELL KNOWN on the board for extras and high mileage dances. How the hell did you manage to get scammed there??

You guys are waaay better than me, I would not go down without a fight. Over 150 bucks is a lot of money to throw down the drain. You should have went to the manager or something. Or just told her to give the money back.

I like to consider myself a non aggressive person, but There is NO WAY I would leave without getting at least 100 bucks back.

Think about how bad that is. The average man is make 7. 25 an hour in the state of GA.

That means it takes those guys around 20 he's, almost an ENTIRE DAY to make 150. Just for you to give it away for nothing??

No way bro, you are better than me. No way that is going to fly. I feel sorry for the Average guy breaking his back for 20 he's just to hand his money over to some lazy bird who KNEW EXACTLY WHAT SHE WAS DOING.

[QUOTE=BigMoney21;3006009]Just because she's a ho to a certain degree doesn't mean she do not have feelings and you're literally setting yourself for a world of problems inside a strip club sometime in the near future. And if I was you I'll try to change my method of thinking or addressing issues on how I treat women if I was you. And the same shit I'm telling you now can be applied to the SW scene also.[/QUOTE]LOL a lesson on how to treat women on a sex forum. I've seen it all now. I gives these dirty skank penis licking ho3's no love. Chicks have way too much leverage inside of a strip club. I couldn't imagine dropping 200+ on a stripper to leave rock hard. They are selling a service. I didn't make them get that job. Do you feel sorry for the cook at the restaurant when he facks up your steak or do you send that ish back? I just don't get it. You are BUYING SEX. That act alone is exploitative of these women.

Who the hell cares what stripper gets thrown out of somebody's lap because she's being lazy providing a service she is being paid for which she volunteered to provide. AAHHHHHHH! If somebody wants respect they don't go shoving cocks down their throat for money. Sorry I just had to get that off my chest.

One recent Sunday I ventured out to Follies to see why the place is always packed. It was early, and the parking lot was almost full. $5 to the valet. The woman that took the door fee asked for a tip. She didn't get one. It was so dark, I couldn't see a thing. After a few moments I could see women standing everywhere. Near naked women, all in fuck me shoes, and lots of them. I stumbled to an empty table and sat down. Bought a drink from a waitress who asked for a tip. 'I don't work for free' she says. I see a pattern here. If she worked for me I'd fire her. Got a few dances from a pretty brunette. No shifting. She offered VIP for $180. I moved her along. Got a couple dances from a pretty and petite Costa Rican spinner, who bounced happily in my lap while stroking junior through my tight jeans. I now had visions of her naked ass bouncing on my hard dick. When she offered VIP for $200, I declined. Quickly she dropped her price to $160. I asked her if she'd take good care of me and she said 'of course'. As it turned out, I should have asked for more specifics.

We slipped through the beaded curtains into the 'VIP room'. A few love seats packed in a small room. One couple sprawled across one. Not my idea of a good time, but I got to go with it. Spinner took my cash and disappeared for a couple minutes. She came back with a handful of baby wipes and wiped down the entire love seat, and both my hands. She then proceeds to stroke junior while talking dirty. How about some mouth action I asked. 'You have a condom?' No. 'No boca without condom' she says. That's great I'm thinking. I just paid $160 for a fucking handjob. Determined to make the most of it, I tried to slide a finger in. Repeatedly. She squirmed away. Everytime. I tried to kiss her. No dice. At this point, I really wish I had opted for a $40 quick visit off BP. I rarely come from a handjob. Good for getting me hard, that's about it. I cut my losses and left. In my younger days, I would have had a blast at Follies. But now I prefer an hour in a nice hotel room with a pretty young lady who wants nothing more than to fulfill my every desire. And with some research, such women can be found all over this great city of ours.

[QUOTE=BigMoney21;3006009]Just because she's a ho to a certain degree doesn't mean she do not have feelings and you're literally setting yourself for a world of problems inside a strip club sometime in the near future. And if I was you I'll try to change my method of thinking or addressing issues on how I treat women if I was you. And the same shit I'm telling you now can be applied to the SW scene also.[/QUOTE]BM, after reading that post I've seen it all. Your post is arguably the most fascinating thing on this message board that I've seen lately. +1 on what Sarge said. These women, like it or not, actually do 'not' have feelings. They are on the hustle and their main objective is to fck you over and get the money. If we want a good girl who's got feelings, then we should go to church instead of a strip club. I do not treat these women with respect and I go great lengths to make them aware of that. It's been working our very well for me so far. Perhaps you're too deep in the game, BM, and have lost touch with reality?

[QUOTE=Ted1340;3006722]One recent Sunday I ventured out to Follies to see why the place is always packed. It was early, and the parking lot was almost full. $5 to the valet. The woman that took the door fee asked for a tip. She didn't get one. It was so dark, I couldn't see a thing. After a few moments I could see women standing everywhere. Near naked women, all in fuck me shoes, and lots of them. I stumbled to an empty table and sat down. Bought a drink from a waitress who asked for a tip. 'I don't work for free' she says. I see a pattern here. If she worked for me I'd fire her. Got a few dances from a pretty brunette. No shifting. She offered VIP for $180. I moved her along. Got a couple dances from a pretty and petite Costa Rican spinner, who bounced happily in my lap while stroking junior through my tight jeans. I now had visions of her naked ass bouncing on my hard dick. When she offered VIP for $200, I declined. Quickly she dropped her price to $160. I asked her if she'd take good care of me and she said 'of course'. As it turned out, I should have asked for more specifics.

We slipped through the beaded curtains into the 'VIP room'. A few love seats packed in a small room. One couple sprawled across one. Not my idea of a good time, but I got to go with it. Spinner took my cash and disappeared for a couple minutes. She came back with a handful of baby wipes and wiped down the entire love seat, and both my hands. She then proceeds to stroke junior while talking dirty. How about some mouth action I asked. 'You have a condom?' No. 'No boca without condom' she says. That's great I'm thinking. I just paid $160 for a fucking handjob. Determined to make the most of it, I tried to slide a finger in. Repeatedly. She squirmed away. Everytime. I tried to kiss her. No dice. At this point, I really wish I had opted for a $40 quick visit off BP. I rarely come from a handjob. Good for getting me hard, that's about it. I cut my losses and left. In my younger days, I would have had a blast at Follies. But now I prefer an hour in a nice hotel room with a pretty young lady who wants nothing more than to fulfill my every desire. And with some research, such women can be found all over this great city of ours.[/QUOTE]You disrespected her. Strippers have feelings too. It's not her fault that she screwed you over from $160 hard-earned money. Show her some respect next time and you might get lucky. Tip the bartender and valet too. LOL.

[QUOTE=TheParrot;3006521]You got scammed in follies of all places?

Follies is WELL KNOWN on the board for extras and high mileage dances. How the hell did you manage to get scammed there??

You guys are waaay better than me, I would not go down without a fight. Over 150 bucks is a lot of money to throw down the drain. You should have went to the manager or something. Or just told her to give the money back.

I like to consider myself a non aggressive person, but There is NO WAY I would leave without getting at least 100 bucks back.

Think about how bad that is. The average man is make 7. 25 an hour in the state of GA.

That means it takes those guys around 20 he's, almost an ENTIRE DAY to make 150. Just for you to give it away for nothing??

No way bro, you are better than me. No way that is going to fly. I feel sorry for the Average guy breaking his back for 20 he's just to hand his money over to some lazy bird who KNEW EXACTLY WHAT SHE WAS DOING.[/QUOTE]The trick for a minimum wage guy to score stripper pussy is to either start a band (white) or to be a rapper (black)! .

My view is that the occasional losses are just opportunity costs; you can mitigate risk, but you can never eliminate it. Escalation of loss by getting mad about it is hardly mitigation of risk, and usually winds up just costing more (in opportunity at the very least).

I will say I'm very reliant on my ability to read people (I taught for many years, which hones that ability razor-sharp), and I make sure I have time to do that before sealing a deal, and while some narcissists and sociopaths can evade that ability (I have met one authentic sociopath at Follies. Morgan / Secret. Who, interestingly, is in prison now; she did rip manage to me off), I'd say I hit the mark 95% of the time.

I could write a whole book on "stripper relations", but a few key points I go by in dealing with them are:

1. Stay cool: If you're in the club, you're on their turf, and they have the advantage; "customer service" is a factor in many industries, but less so in adult entertainment.

2. Select, don't accept: I NEVER invite a girl who approaches me to sit at my table, even if she's blazingly hot; it gives her the advantage ("initiative", in the language of gaming). If I see a girl who interests me, I will invite her to my table; this will always be a girl I've seen on stage at least once, and / or who I've seen dance for others. That hot girl who approached me? If I like her, I'll check her out when she does her thing elsewhere, and then invite her if it looks promising.

3. Test: I never run to VIP; I always have the dancer do a sequence of four consecutive dances (that's important, because if the heat hasn't built by the fourth dance, it's not happening). I push further with each dance, until I'm wetting a finger in her vagina by Dance Four; that's a VIP girl. And I'm reading her too, getting her horny (this makes a better dance in my experience), and generally getting her wet and ready if I've decided she's worth a VIP room.

4. Never agree to anything! No matter how close you get to a stripper. You might be busting raw loads daily into her uterus, mouth, and ass. Don't EVER get financially entangled with her. Do not lend her money. Do not cosign. Do not bail out. Nothing. If you want to hand her $10,000 to go shopping at Christian Louboutin (shoes which open stripper legs like keys), by all means, enjoy, but never LEND her $10,000. See the difference?

I mean, I love a stripper; they usually have much hotter bodies than escorts, they're already shaved and ready to go, and often they have a ton of hot, slutty friends who are ready for a three way, but they are categorically MESSED UP. They WILL drag you down.

That said, I agree with the earlier remarks about respect. I think, generally, life is just easier if you treat people with respect. I realize some take issue with it, but for me, it's a basic life-management decision. It's like I never rip anyone off, even when I can; it's just easier to play it straight. I used to have a girl I would visit with a few minutes notice (like I just happen to be driving by her exit with a few minutes to spare); I would tell her to be naked and ready when I got there, and I would literally walk in, slide in, fuck and come raw in her, and then leave. A cum dump, literally (and free of charge, too), but I still treated her with respect when we were just chatting or hanging out, because why not?

Thoughts!

O.

[QUOTE=Ozymandias;3007297]The trick for a minimum wage guy to score stripper pussy is to either start a band (white) or to be a rapper (black)! .

My view is that the occasional losses are just opportunity costs; you can mitigate risk, but you can never eliminate it. Escalation of loss by getting mad about it is hardly mitigation of risk, and usually winds up just costing more (in opportunity at the very least).

I will say I'm very reliant on my ability to read people (I taught for many years, which hones that ability razor-sharp), and I make sure I have time to do that before sealing a deal, and while some narcissists and sociopaths can evade that ability (I have met one authentic sociopath at Follies. Morgan / Secret. Who, interestingly, is in prison now; she did rip manage to me off), I'd say I hit the mark 95% of the time.

I could write a whole book on "stripper relations", but a few key points I go by in dealing with them are:

1. Stay cool: If you're in the club, you're on their turf, and they have the advantage; "customer service" is a factor in many industries, but less so in adult entertainment.

2. Select, don't accept: I NEVER invite a girl who approaches me to sit at my table, even if she's blazingly hot; it gives her the advantage ("initiative", in the language of gaming). If I see a girl who interests me, I will invite her to my table; this will always be a girl I've seen on stage at least once, and / or who I've seen dance for others. That hot girl who approached me? If I like her, I'll check her out when she does her thing elsewhere, and then invite her if it looks promising.

3. Test: I never run to VIP; I always have the dancer do a sequence of four consecutive dances (that's important, because if the heat hasn't built by the fourth dance, it's not happening). I push further with each dance, until I'm wetting a finger in her vagina by Dance Four; that's a VIP girl. And I'm reading her too, getting her horny (this makes a better dance in my experience), and generally getting her wet and ready if I've decided she's worth a VIP room.

4. Never agree to anything! No matter how close you get to a stripper. You might be busting raw loads daily into her uterus, mouth, and ass. Don't EVER get financially entangled with her. Do not lend her money. Do not cosign. Do not bail out. Nothing. If you want to hand her $10,000 to go shopping at Christian Louboutin (shoes which open stripper legs like keys), by all means, enjoy, but never LEND her $10,000. See the difference?

I mean, I love a stripper; they usually have much hotter bodies than escorts, they're already shaved and ready to go, and often they have a ton of hot, slutty friends who are ready for a three way, but they are categorically MESSED UP. They WILL drag you down.

That said, I agree with the earlier remarks about respect. I think, generally, life is just easier if you treat people with respect. I realize some take issue with it, but for me, it's a basic life-management decision. It's like I never rip anyone off, even when I can; it's just easier to play it straight. I used to have a girl I would visit with a few minutes notice (like I just happen to be driving by her exit with a few minutes to spare); I would tell her to be naked and ready when I got there, and I would literally walk in, slide in, fuck and come raw in her, and then leave. A cum dump, literally (and free of charge, too), but I still treated her with respect when we were just chatting or hanging out, because why not?

Thoughts!

O.[/QUOTE]I've never gone through all of that. All I've ever done was get a dance or two and then say I'm looking for something in particular and ask if they know who I should talk to. Either they're going to ask how much, direct you towards or someone or say they don't know. I've had more of the first and second than the third. I said it a few posts back, but when that's what I wanted all I'd do is go to Blaze around noon on a Saturday before it gets crowded. Every time I tried it I found one willing, quite often with the first one I asked. Quite a few times in the VIP room and if the chick bartender was down there she'd cut the lights all the way off and give you a heads up when someone was coming. A few times outside of the club as well. Also a few times at what used to be platinum 21. I actually got one in there that wasn't even a dancer, just a chick that was there watching.

For starters, I never had any attention on getting a fight started and I went back and re-read what I quoted Parrot on like 6 times already. And from my point of view I was only just implying that he doesn't need to create a hostile situation inside a place where more than likely people have a whole lot going on outside of work and I suggest you don't too. I find it hard to believe that you'll go inside a strip club and act like a complete azz especially knowing you'll be outnumbered by Lord knows how many bouncers and armed security guards. I never commented on him nor anyone on how they should handle a substantial money loss due to a scam. I'll let that own individual make his call on how to deal with that bull sh*t. I only told Parrot that he need to think about the whole thought that these women have feelings and you'll never know how they'll react if he was at time I was thinking forcefully remove them from their lap. I see where you're coming from about a woman being a ho and she don't deserve respect then again, you need to see that I was only stating try avoiding confrontations when its not needed.

[QUOTE=BunnerySgt;3006543]LOL a lesson on how to treat women on a sex forum. I've seen it all now. I gives these dirty skank penis licking ho3's no love. Chicks have way too much leverage inside of a strip club. I couldn't imagine dropping 200+ on a stripper to leave rock hard. They are selling a service. I didn't make them get that job. Do you feel sorry for the cook at the restaurant when he facks up your steak or do you send that ish back? I just don't get it. You are BUYING SEX. That act alone is exploitative of these women.

Who the hell cares what stripper gets thrown out of somebody's lap because she's being lazy providing a service she is being paid for which she volunteered to provide. AAHHHHHHH! If somebody wants respect they don't go shoving cocks down their throat for money. Sorry I just had to get that off my chest.[/QUOTE]

For starters I never had any attention on getting a fight started on this thread, I was only implying that Parrot does not need to cause a confrontation inside a strip club and neither should you. These women do have feelings and I'm not about argue with you on that subject matter. I find it no surprise when I run into new SW'$ on the street and they have their guard up too the max due to the fact they have to deal with aggressive and mentally unstable clientele. And your post right along with sarges exhibits such behavior. I never once mentioned that the SW or strip club scene is a descent let alone good place too meet any women. Those women are only there for entertainment purposes only. I'll be lying too you if I told you that I never had any form of confrontation with a woman who works in the adult entertainment industry. I find it hard to believe you'll have the balls to go inside a strip club and disrespect plenty of strippers in their without the fear of retaliation.

Personally you can handle things your way, I always wondered why so many Johns used to get jumped or shot on FIB after reading this post I can see why. And this is only a plead for peace brother, please try your best from creating hostile environment in the sex game. Because you and other people who think like you is help contributing too black on black crime that is plaguing the black community.

[QUOTE=PizzlePro;3006927]BM, after reading that post I've seen it all. Your post is arguably the most fascinating thing on this message board that I've seen lately. +1 on what Sarge said. These women, like it or not, actually do 'not' have feelings. They are on the hustle and their main objective is to fck you over and get the money. If we want a good girl who's got feelings, then we should go to church instead of a strip club. I do not treat these women with respect and I go great lengths to make them aware of that. It's been working our very well for me so far. Perhaps you're too deep in the game, BM, and have lost touch with reality?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Ozymandias;3007297]The trick for a minimum wage guy to score stripper pussy is to either start a band (white) or to be a rapper (black)! .

O.[/QUOTE]Or. Bring marijuana into the club, and be willing to share or sell. The "weed man" usually gets lots of attention, whether or not he actually spends a dime.

Oh yea, one more thing! Look at Ray Rice, he had big bucks and was scammed by providers. He had big bucks but still went BESERK and fought back.

Its because ray rice didn't grow up privileged and knows the value of a dollar.

The man was rich, but still didn't want to take the "L" as "brothers" would call it.

[QUOTE=Soaky1;3007594]Or. Bring marijuana into the club, and be willing to share or sell. The "weed man" usually gets lots of attention, whether or not he actually spends a dime.[/QUOTE]Most these girls love the fucking weed guy. I almost started to smoke weed because of that fact. Some of the ugliest guys are fucking top notch chicks because he's the weed guy.

I see where you're coming from, some strippers are money hungry to be honest with you. And also here's a very useful advice, try getting to know the stripper before you decide to spend mad money on her. Most of the strip clubs I've been to the strippers that work inside their are very talkative especially at Strokers that has the most talkative strip club I've ever been too.

[QUOTE=TheParrot;3006326]I hear and somewhat agree with what you're saying. When I say "push her off" I basically mean end the dances, not physically push her. So I don't spend anymore cash on a whack dancer.

I push strippers off all the time at pinups, especially if they have a bad attitude.

For example: I'll ask for 5 dances which is $25 at pinups. So I place $25 on the table, one 20 dollar bill and a five dollar bill. If the first dance is whack, I will push her off and pick up the 20 dollar bill and leave the 5 dollar bill on the table for her.

Sometimes they ask "why?" I just tell them "I wasn't enjoying it, you are no fun. ".

We can't keep letting these strippers get over on us. That's the reason they don't try hard, because guys accept whatever crap they give them.

I work VERY HARD for my money, no point in wasting it when there are better strippers 2 feet away waiting to make money and provide GOOD SERVICE.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=PizzlePro;3007081]You disrespected her. Strippers have feelings too. It's not her fault that she screwed you over from $160 hard-earned money. Show her some respect next time and you might get lucky. Tip the bartender and valet too. LOL.[/QUOTE]I did not disrespect her. 'It's not her fault she screwed me over?' WTF? I didn't speak negatively to her or treat her poorly in any way. She provided the absolute minimum service possible, and I left after not getting what I expected. Where's the disrespect? And people shouldn't ask for a tip. It's bad etiquette. I retrieved my car when I left without the valet's help, and I still gave him a tip. Because he didn't ask for one.

[QUOTE=Ted1340;3007742]I did not disrespect her. 'It's not her fault she screwed me over?' WTF? I didn't speak negatively to her or treat her poorly in any way. She provided the absolute minimum service possible, and I left after not getting what I expected. Where's the disrespect? And people shouldn't ask for a tip. It's bad etiquette. I retrieved my car when I left without the valet's help, and I still gave him a tip. Because he didn't ask for one.[/QUOTE]He was being super sarcastic. He agrees with you.

[QUOTE=TheParrot;3007604]Oh yea, one more thing! Look at Ray Rice, he had big bucks and was scammed by providers. He had big bucks but still went BESERK and fought back.

Its because ray rice didn't grow up privileged and knows the value of a dollar.

The man was rich, but still didn't want to take the "L" as "brothers" would call it.[/QUOTE]What the hell are you talking about? What info on ray rice do you have other than his incident with his now wife?

I was so amused with this conversation I had to say something. I come to Atlanta once a month, I go to Follies every time, and I get full service at VIP.

Every time.

I don't have a mean bone in my body save for just one, and I have to say there's nothing wrong with being polite as long as you're firm too. I reject dances, I turn dancers away, I've negotiated terms and numbers. Once I got FS near the mirror wall for 50.

I'll find a girl I like, ask for four dances, and if she's not stick shifting by dance 2. I sit up and say thank you, and tell her I'm not feeling it.

I never ask about VIP. If she wants to fuck shell broach the subject. I ask her what's available and what her rules are. If I don't like what I hear I say no thank you. I then invite her to seek business elsewhere with a genuine smile on my fave. Shell either leave or compromise on her terms.

Easy. And no ones pissed off.

There's nothing wrong with smiling and saying please and thank you. For those of you who hate these girls, you're missing out on good opportunities just because of your demeanor. That 'fuck these hoes' vibe is nasty and you send a lot of good service my way. For you spineless ones that take what they can get, you're a con artist magnet. You want a good fuck? You'll get it, but you'll always be on the receiving end.

[QUOTE=Soaky1;3007594]Or. Bring marijuana into the club, and be willing to share or sell. The "weed man" usually gets lots of attention, whether or not he actually spends a dime.[/QUOTE]I went to the club with a severly broken leg. The girlswere all over me looking for pain pills, LOL.

[QUOTE=GetUrRollOnMan;3008565]What the hell are you talking about? What info on ray rice do you have other than his incident with his now wife?[/QUOTE]Good catch, I meant to say warren sapp. He spent over 300 bones and still scammed. That type of cash will make me fight in the dog pits with the ROUGHEST 6 ft tall handlers!!

I cannot take such large losses. I have to pay 1500 for my current case, I already have aggression building up inside. I guess that's why God made me a little guy, dammit man!!

And just to set the record straight that big bastard was literally stupid azz phuck on how he handled the shit. He literally lost an 800 K job, with 200 K per year in other additional income. He easily could've walked away from a $300 lost! There's always going to be scammers in the sex industry and it's up to you only to proceed how you want to handle the stuff. Keep in mind what you'll actually lose in life if you choose the wrong option.

[QUOTE=TheParrot;3008810]Good catch, I meant to say warren sapp. He spent over 300 bones and still scammed. That type of cash will make me fight in the dog pits with the ROUGHEST 6 ft tall handlers!!

I cannot take such large losses. I have to pay 1500 for my current case, I already have aggression building up inside. I guess that's why God made me a little guy, dammit man!![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BigMoney21;3009066]And just to set the record straight that big bastard was literally stupid azz phuck on how he handled the shit. He literally lost an 800 K job, with 200 K per year in other additional income. He easily could've walked away from a $300 lost! There's always going to be scammers in the sex industry and it's up to you only to proceed how you want to handle the stuff. Keep in mind what you'll actually lose in life if you choose the wrong option.[/QUOTE]I hear what you're saying, but we as men cannot keep bending over and taking the dildo.

At some point you have to stand up for yourself. I have respect for Warren Sapp, he refused to get scammed.

Yea, he had a lot to lose but he was stressed and disrespected. If they cheated me out of $300 I would lose my mind!

This case costs me 1500 plus any unknown fines and possibly jail time. I regret it, though I still stood up like a man. Unlike some other mongers who CONSTANTLY take losses and do nothing about.

Edmund Burke - "all that is necessary for the triumph of evil, is that good men do nothing".

Many of these scammers have hearts filled with evil.

I'm from and SC and found myself in Atlanta this past Saturday. I've only been to strip clubs in Columbia and figured that I should try it out in GA since I was there. I went to Follies and now I'll never go to another club in SC again.

I arrived at 7:00 or 8:00 pm and was surpised at how packed the parking lot was. I wasn't too pleased about paying to park but that was soon an afterthought after I went inside. The first thing that I noticed was that it's a nude club AND alcohol is served. In SC you can do one but not both. Everywhere chooses alcohol over nudity. The next thing that I noticed was that pretty much every girl was an 8+ and that there weren't any fat women. There were curvy women but no fatties.

There wasn't any sitting room and I think I was standing up looking like I was lost. A tall dark skinned girl with great tits gave me the rundown, $10 for a lap dance and $150 for 30 minutes in the VIP. At Platinum Plus in Columbia ugly women charge $20 and nice looking ones charge $40 a song. I was able to get 4 songs for the price of 1 Columbia dance! I got quite a few dances from her and several other dancers. All but 1 of the dancers did a fair amount of stick shifting.

The last dancer that I came across came too late. She was stick shifting and let me feel her jetty a few times on the couch in the back. She then offered FS for $250. Unfortunately I was out of cash and my credit card decided that it was a good idea to turn itself off due to "suspicious activity" (I was out of state not the country). She thought that I was negotiating and said that she'd go down to $180. Sadly I had no access to cash at the moment and had to leave without being fully satisfied.

I'm not sure if I'll be returning to Follies or if I'm going to try my luck at another club. I do know that I'll definitely be making the trip back to ATL in the near future.

You guys are crazy. You should treat everyone with respect, no matter what their station. You should take steps to avoid getting ripped off. You should never do anything to get yourself arrested, assaulted, or fined over a few hundred dollars.

This is too easy. Just be cool, buy a drink, get a dance from a girl you want to fuck, ask her if she does VIP. I she says yes, ask what that entails or tell her what you want. These girls know the score, they will say yes or know and if you say " I want sex" or " I want bare head" they will let you know whether or not they do it. They tell you the price you might try to haggle. If you agree on price and service, you wait for the next opening in the VIP and you get your rocks off. I used to try that beating around the Bush thing, but it costs too much money and isn't necessary. I got much better results when I started being more up front.

I've gone balls deep in two blondes, bent a curvy mexican over the VIP couch, and gotten bare deepthroated by another mexican in one week. I've turned down a number of other ladies of all races, shapes and sizes. This is too easy. And you guys are too old to be acting bashful or going all Ike Turner on women.

Met a small blond light skin spinner on Thursday day shift. She had a nice bubble booty and small bitties, I would say 100 pounds max. Name was princess and the dances got freaky instantly. Fingers were wet by song two so we take off to VIP for 200 including room. I got the usual menu covered with her doing a great job riding. Putty was super tight and got wet.

[QUOTE=Mstekh;3013389]You guys are crazy. You should treat everyone with respect, no matter what their station. You should take steps to avoid getting ripped off. You should never do anything to get yourself arrested, assaulted, or fined over a few hundred dollars.

This is too easy. Just be cool, buy a drink, get a dance from a girl you want to fuck, ask her if she does VIP. I she says yes, ask what that entails or tell her what you want. These girls know the score, they will say yes or know and if you say " I want sex" or " I want bare head" they will let you know whether or not they do it. They tell you the price you might try to haggle. If you agree on price and service, you wait for the next opening in the VIP and you get your rocks off. I used to try that beating around the Bush thing, but it costs too much money and isn't necessary. I got much better results when I started being more up front.

I've gone balls deep in two blondes, bent a curvy mexican over the VIP couch, and gotten bare deepthroated by another mexican in one week. I've turned down a number of other ladies of all races, shapes and sizes. This is too easy. And you guys are too old to be acting bashful or going all Ike Turner on women.[/QUOTE]And this is the real truth! Some of you guys no experience with women! LOL.

Have any of you guys actually been to that place before? If so how's it like inside of there? I know its shutdown now but hell I read plenty of reviews on that place off the world wide web and people rarely had something nice too say about it. I've met 7 girls at Strokers who used to dance at that strip club so far.

[QUOTE=BigMoney21;3016760]Have any of you guys actually been to that place before? If so how's it like inside of there? I know its shutdown now but hell I read plenty of reviews on that place off the world wide web and people rarely had something nice too say about it. I've met 7 girls at Strokers who used to dance at that strip club so far.[/QUOTE]And the current pages all say it's closed. Is it?

[QUOTE=BigMoney21;3016760]Have any of you guys actually been to that place before? If so how's it like inside of there? I know its shutdown now but hell I read plenty of reviews on that place off the world wide web and people rarely had something nice too say about it. I've met 7 girls at Strokers who used to dance at that strip club so far.[/QUOTE]I didn't know it had closed! It's been awhile.

I liked it, not for the club per se (I hated VIP there), but as a prospecting site for young black spinners.

Maybe it was just my experience, but I could hardly ever leave that place without a couple of numbers of 20 year old spinners who would be bobbing on my dick in a few days. It was a great take-out spot.

If anyone knows where Honey went (hard-body skinny black spinner, mid-20's, very pretty face), do tell!

O.

[QUOTE=NewDude;3013430]Met a small blond light skin spinner on Thursday day shift. She had a nice bubble booty and small bitties, I would say 100 pounds max. Name was princess and the dances got freaky instantly. Fingers were wet by song two so we take off to VIP for 200 including room. I got the usual menu covered with her doing a great job riding. Putty was super tight and got wet.[/QUOTE]Everyone here will say you overpaid by $48, but cool that you had fun and enjoyed yourself.

[QUOTE=MrPhantom;3018197]Everyone here will say you overpaid by $48, but cool that you had fun and enjoyed yourself.[/QUOTE]I could have stuck to my guns and probably lost out on this one but my angle was adding another to the regular roster. My choice was a good one cause she is tight with a nice ass and delivers better otc. I have been sticking to 150 for a while and some just won't go that low. I always pass if she isn't top notch.

[QUOTE=NewDude;3018548]I could have stuck to my guns and probably lost out on this one but my angle was adding another to the regular roster. My choice was a good one cause she is tight with a nice ass and delivers better otc. I have been sticking to 150 for a while and some just won't go that low. I always pass if she isn't top notch.[/QUOTE]You might try telling that you tip for good performance.

[QUOTE=MrPhantom;3018197]Everyone here will say you overpaid by $48, but cool that you had fun and enjoyed yourself.[/QUOTE]The main problem with overpaying is that if you find a keeper, and you want to see her again for VIP, you've already set your rate!

I had one 19 yo Follies girl I fucked probably 40-50 times in VIP (she was my sure thing when I was in the area and just wanted to run in for a nut; she was super tight, a barely even a one-finger girl); if I'd overpaid the first time, and didn't renegotiate, it would have cost me north of 2 grand over a year!

That said, your money, your price!

O.

Stopped by the Pink Pony recently to check it out after not being in there for a while. Went in at about 9:00 on a Friday night. The club is still quality for drinks and cleanliness, and lots of different spinners around to be had. I was not surprised to see that the lame air dances are still no touch at no time. The only value to be had there is with the shot girls, who actually give you a show for a lower price. I also decided to check out VIP when I was there as well. It was 60 for the room and 160 for the girl for 30 minutes. The VIP rooms are now half open air to the club as Brookhaven has instructed them to remove some of the privacy back there. So when the girl is dancing for you she can look out into the main floor over the half wall that separates you. Also there are conveniently placed mirrors on the ceiling to ensure people can look in if they notice. The extra "fun" to be had in VIP is simply the dancer being able to give you a quick lap dance if nobody is looking. I got maybe 3 lap dances in the 30 minutes, the rest were the same air dances you can get on the floor. Don't waste your money back there guys, it isn't worth it.

Also stopped by Follies recently on a Tuesday night. The place was surprisingly packed for a weekday. The night shift there is mostly ethnic girls, but some variety to be had. The club is still dirty and the bartenders are horrible. But the dances are full touch lap dances and a few of the girls have some pretty good skill. Also did VIP with a really hott slim thick white girl. I paid 60 for the room (tip for the manager) and 150 for the girl. Yea yea I know you guys all only pay bare minimum, but she was the stunner of the night for sure. The session wasn't the full 30 minutes, but I left happy and drained of any backup I may have had for the night.

I still haven't done any VIP in Maudi Gras club, anyone have any memories there?

If you would've read the article I posted, you'll understand that in a Gentleman's Club normally touching is not allowed as in male to female contact. The police will conduct undercover investigations in order to determine if the club is complying with the rules. Well I hope this information helps out buddy.

[QUOTE=Opera;3019918]Stopped by the Pink Pony recently to check it out after not being in there for a while. Went in at about 9:00 on a Friday night. The club is still quality for drinks and cleanliness, and lots of different spinners around to be had. I was not surprised to see that the lame air dances are still no touch at no time. The only value to be had there is with the shot girls, who actually give you a show for a lower price. I also decided to check out VIP when I was there as well. It was 60 for the room and 160 for the girl for 30 minutes. The VIP rooms are now half open air to the club as Brookhaven has instructed them to remove some of the privacy back there. So when the girl is dancing for you she can look out into the main floor over the half wall that separates you. Also there are conveniently placed mirrors on the ceiling to ensure people can look in if they notice. The extra "fun" to be had in VIP is simply the dancer being able to give you a quick lap dance if nobody is looking. I got maybe 3 lap dances in the 30 minutes, the rest were the same air dances you can get on the floor. Don't waste your money back there guys, it isn't worth it.

Also stopped by Follies recently on a Tuesday night. The place was surprisingly packed for a weekday. The night shift there is mostly ethnic girls, but some variety to be had. The club is still dirty and the bartenders are horrible. But the dances are full touch lap dances and a few of the girls have some pretty good skill. Also did VIP with a really hott slim thick white girl. I paid 60 for the room (tip for the manager) and 150 for the girl. Yea yea I know you guys all only pay bare minimum, but she was the stunner of the night for sure. The session wasn't the full 30 minutes, but I left happy and drained of any backup I may have had for the night.

I still haven't done any VIP in Maudi Gras club, anyone have any memories there?[/QUOTE]

After hanging out in the strip clubs I for one can say I've made tons of friends (strippers). And I noticed that almost every black strip I've been too the women keep blurting out I want to work at Follies but its so damn hard to get the job there. My gosh they go on and on with how the chicks be posting if there stacks on Facebook and the chicks they do know who works there have very high maintenance appeals to them. I'm try to visit that place and see if I can establish some connections like anywhere else I go to.

Ironically, this one young Blackaneese chick I know who can dance pretty good, told me that she messed up only once during her adution at Follies the manager stopped her and told her she's finished I was like whoa that's pretty harsh. However, I wonder if she really knew how the girls at Follies got there money well she had too especially if she used to work for Shooters.

Okay, most of my friends who went to that club say it sucked simply put but, I guess it depends on who you asked. I know plenty of girls who used to dance at Shooters Alley I'm pretty sure you ran into them at Strokers, Gold Rush and Peaches of Atlanta.

[QUOTE=Ozymandias;3017041]I didn't know it had closed! It's been awhile.

I liked it, not for the club per se (I hated VIP there), but as a prospecting site for young black spinners.

Maybe it was just my experience, but I could hardly ever leave that place without a couple of numbers of 20 year old spinners who would be bobbing on my dick in a few days. It was a great take-out spot.

If anyone knows where Honey went (hard-body skinny black spinner, mid-20's, very pretty face), do tell!

O.[/QUOTE]

Is officially out of business since November 2015.

[QUOTE=MRuwald;3016878]And the current pages all say it's closed. Is it?[/QUOTE]