Everyone is different but.
[QUOTE=Jy2019;6214176]Anyone willing to share tips for those inexperienced in this hobby? How do you normally initiate or negotiate? Does it start with a brunch or dinner and then go to a room after? Which timing the conversation does negotiation happen? I take it being straight and blunt helps.
I'm curious about anyones proven method of pooning if you are willing to share some tips and tricks.[/QUOTE]I start with a lunch / brunch / dinner date. I talk to her about whatever, treat it like a normal date and I don't mention sex at all in the first meeting. I make sure it's an upscale or trendy / hipster restaurant and make it seem as friendly and non-creepy as possible. I pay for the meal, however I don't pay for meet and greets. I know that a lot of people do and it doesn't seem to be a problem, but I just personally don't like setting that type of expectation.
If I'm feeling a strong positive vibe from her, on our parting walk out to her car, I'll ask politely if she wants to see my place which will always lead to fucking if she says yes. If I don't feel a strong vibe, I'll let it be a normal goodbye and then tell her that I'd really love to see her again over text / messaging. That way there's nothing awkward for her if she wants to say no. I would say that if we do a date like this, it's been greater than 90% that we end up having sex shortly after. In my opinion, a lot of these women have some REALLY bad experiences with these guys so if you treat them like a human being, they'll not only fuck you, but you'll end up fucking them for really cheap (I. E. "Could you help me with my cell phone bill? Or even free later on.
Just another example, I went out with this girl Kristin last weekend in Kansas City. She couldn't find a babysitter so it was me, her and her 9 year old daughter at a kid-friendly restaurant (Cracker Barrel! Her daughter talked to me as much as Kristin did and wanted to do things like play these games where I guess how to spell her name etc. After we said goodbye, Kristin started texting me saying how her daughter won't stop asking about me and she's never been around a guy who was nice to her daughter. I ended up fucking Kristin Sunday, Monday, and Tuesday and didn't pay her a thing other than taking them out to one more dinner.
I'm not saying that free sex is the norm, but I'm a 5'4" Asian tech guy, not some 6'2" chad. I understand being impatient and wanting to get to the point as soon as possible, but I feel that the SA / SB thing works best when you pretend like that's NOT the most important thing on your mind (even if it is).
Website that reviews daddies / johns?
Some previous date on Seeking is claiming that I have reviews on some site with my phone number and screenshots of conversations between me and sb's. Anyone heard of such a site? Thanks.
Secret Benefits has a new grift going
Well, now on SB you can use your credits to get yourself listed as a top admirer.
I really don't understand the value add for anybody here but SB. Any normal girl would prefer that money be spent on her directly rather than SB. And spending credits this way is no guarantee that you'll get replies back from the lady in question.
So it looks like this is a good deal for SB and nobody else.
I've found the hunting and the cunting on SB to be just about as good and as bad as SA otherwise, and the cost of credits spends about the same (or even a little less) than an SA subscription. But this new thing looks like a way to make it all less valuable.
Be careful with those scammers and Google Voice
HEY! IT'S MY 100th post! Woo hoo!
It's not that difficult to sniff those troublemakers out, but sometimes you get led down a path before you realize, after 20 messages, they're not legit.
I had a pretty devastating experience lately I thought I'd share to help my bros out. Here's what happened:
I have a thing for big hair, saw a really hot girl and started messaging about things, letting her know her hair was amazing, etc. She claimed to have 1 kid in her profile, but she looked too hot. The conversation quickly moved to text, my Google Voice account. She immediately wanted to send me "spicy" photos to make things interesting on Telegram. I met her there, and of course, I immediately refused to pay for any images. She made it seem like a way to help her, as she's between jobs and has a daughter to support. So I told her to meet me instead, sensing she wasn't local anyway, but probably in Nigeria or Philadelphia, watching the Eagles. She then wanted $200 up front to hire a full-day babysitter. I'd seen that one before as well. Again, I refused, fully convinced I was talking to a sweaty overweight Canadian teenager. This is where things began to get tricky. They (no longer "SHE") persisted in wanting something from me. I challenged her authenticity and asked her to hold up a card with "I (heart emoji) (my user name)" next to her face. She got really upset, asking why I would ask her to tell me she loves me, which in hindsight, I won't do again, but just ask for the date. Point was, she wouldn't do that, either. I explained why they were a scammer, a waste of my time, etc. And blocked her. On both the site and in Telegram. Note to self, never move to more than one platform. They're data harvesting anyway.
Deep breath.
Within minutes, my beloved Google Voice account was deactivated. I got an email explaining I violated their terms and use policy. A link was provided to appeal, along with details about what all that meant. I of course appealed, but it didn't matter. They immediately denied. My first thought was, "OH SHIT! All of the other messages to girls I've arranged PPMs with, etc. Were visible to them. They probably got a complaint initially from this scammer that I was bullying them, which is one of the usage violations. But on appeal, if they looked at my other 60-70 contacts, they'd have seen all kinds of stuff involving you know what.
I was able to keep all my contacts, as they only disabled GV in my Firefox browser (don't ask. It's easy to discard the profile with minimal efforts), but I couldn't create a new GV account with that email, nor could I create one in Firefox with any other Google username. The more I investigated it, the scarier it became to me. I was playing with fire, trying to create a new account in Chrome as well. Was it my MAC address, IP address? Who knows. Google search didn't help.
HERE'S THE CONSEQUENCES YOU NEED TO KNOW: if you get pissed at a scammer, and this happens to you, you could lose access to all Google services across their entire platform. Think about how difficult that might make your life if you use it for civilized behavior. I was fortunate I didn't lose everything. I use VPN, but it didn't matter.
Stay safe, gents. This is an amazing hobby, and I've reaped so much gold from it, but losing all of the conversations I had going on was incredibly challenging to recover from. Most of the ladies in progress abandoned me when I attempted to reach back out from a new number, assuming I was a scammer. The loss was huge at the time (about a month ago), but I have 35 POTs going on again, so I'm good.
I switched to TextNow, which is adequate, but I'm waiting for a good eSIM to use with them, once they release them. The ads are annoying. There's probably some obvious reactions to have, but I would just say "Be careful with those scammers. Just dump them and move on, don't get into it, and don't make it something for them to become vengeful about. ".
Google Voice versus Burner Phones
One more vote for right there for a burner phone.
I conduct a lot of business over Google services and the loss of my Google accounts would cause serious mayhem for me. That's why I buy a new prepaid phone at Wal-mart or Target every year or so.
