Massage Parlor Reports

[QUOTE=Stressed Out]I agree that discussion of the tip is a downer. I do have one question about your method however. if she is steadfast as you said and you tell her you just want a HE then how do you get the money back without causing a fuss. She has already picked it up and counted it. All she has to do is put it someplace and your out of luck. My guess would be that she wouldn't give it back without a fuss and I don't know of a 'safe' way to get it back. But I could be wrong. SO[/QUOTE]

The answer to that is simple, never give them money until the session is over.

[QUOTE=Stressed Out]I agree that discussion of the tip is a downer. I do have one question about your method however. If she is steadfast as you said and you tell her you just want a HE then how do you get the money back without causing a fuss. She has already picked it up and counted it. All she has to do is put it someplace and your out of luck. My guess would be that she wouldn't give it back without a fuss and I don't know of a 'safe' way to get it back. But I could be wrong. SO[/QUOTE]While I like the idea of placing the cash in plain sight, I usually don't do that. I pay the house fee of $60 upfront (as do we all, except for the sap's who pay $70 for the whole 60 mins (LOL. It would be my last visit there as the fee, presently ranges from 50 to 60 for an hour, a whole hour, period). Sadly, the reality of the fact, especially with a girl who does not know you, is there is some degree of discussion ranging from specific numbers for specific deeds down to the proverbial "you take care of me, right? "

As I have stated, I am usually there for a f/s visit and if my available cash of $150 to $160 is not enough to achieve that, I pass all service and she can rub for an hour for the house money of $60.

I had a bad experience at Sundance a long time ago, and since the session was not going well at all, I passed all service and continued the massage. She tried to get rid of me in 45 as there was no cash in it for her for an extra. I refused to leave the table until the hour was over and insisted that she continue to rub, which she did.

There are many ways to pay for educational experiences, this chic just made a tuition payment for her refusal to discuss or accept less. I have had to repeat this experience only twice more, but, I do not exceed my allotment for the experience. So, the chic either accepts what I have to offer, makes a little less, and then moves on, or gets to rub for a WHOLE hour for nada.

Each monger has to get his own MO down pretty pat and yes, it does make a difference if you repeat at a place or not. They do both treat you better and if the same girl, will be more relaxed with you the second and succeeding visits. But, there is no reason for anyone to be taken advantage of and above all, you have to be prepared to walk without any extras. Always remember WHO is in the driver's seat, and its the one holding the cash.

Ok 60 goes to the house right off the bat. Anyone know what the split from the "tip" is between the house and the ma-souse?

I heard from one girl who worked for a escort service that the service took up to 75% of the fees charged.

Just wondering, that's all.

[QUOTE=Gansett]Ok 60 goes to the house right off the bat. Anyone know what the split from the "tip" is between the house and the ma-souse?

I heard from one girl who worked for a escort service that the service took up to 75% of the fees charged.

Just wondering, that's all.[/QUOTE]


I would venture a guess that 100% of the house money goes to the house and probably 50-60% of the tip as well.

I enjoyed all the commentary on "freedom" and slave trade. It's worth noting that Korea and many other countries don't have the same Puritan/Christian hang-ups about sex and providing services. Remember old Japan where Geisha's were upper end in the social hierarchy. I've been to Korea, and workers there have it a million times worse than the SW's at the US AMPs. I imagine, without knowing for sure, it's a much better gig getting $140+ per pop here in the US. I see a couple of regulars and they have no hangups about this line of work.

The kill-joys in the US should consider the cultural differences.- they worry about cultural differences in everything else, right?

And Tipping,

BTW, I'm a good tipper at restaurants, but seldom at the AMP. The standard fees are a pretty good chunk of change for 30 minutes of bumping around. Just MHO. Jck

[QUOTE=Jhonny8770]I'm confused, CN.

Above you state that you read the reviews (and assume you've read others reports) but you entered a multiple-reviewed F/S est, as a new client, and tried to downsell the provider (or refused 'reported' rates beyond the $10-20 haggle they expect).

In my travels (and speaking with the girls), I've been told that mongers who do this absolutely will not get the desired attitude (GFE) and will be hustled out. Also some of the girls told me they talk amongst themselves and have excellent memories when it comes to money which is what your f*cking with.

But, my main confusion is 'flat butt' on June?

Must be a BBW chaser 'cause that ass aint flat![/QUOTE]No need to get upset.

Maybe I misread but I thought I read FS for 90 plus house fee.

And I do think her butt is flat.

Well I have been reading about the "Pink" soapy massage and haven't had one in years, so I headed over to the 1021 today just after noon. Mamasan told me Pink was in but busy. She asked if I would try Suzie. I pretended that I had been there before and said I liked Pink's TS the best. She promised that Suzie would give me the same, so I handed over my $60 and went off to the shower with Suzie.

Suzie is about 5ft, average build and has a great rack, she's a little pudgier than the average K girl, but not fat. I'd give her a 6 for looks. She gives a decent table shower but a bit short on time. Next she takes me to the sauna, which I normally decline, but it was chilly in there and I needed to warm up. Suzie comes in and sits with me while stroking my knee cap. I take her hand and place it on my balls where it should be. She has a nice touch and after a few minutes we head off to my room.

Once again she gives a decent, but way too quick massage, then flips me. At this point I am getting annoyed at the rate at which this session is moving. I tell her more massage and then a HJ. She makes a face like she just swallowed sour milk. Now I'm getting turned off. Basically, I go to these places to buy what I want, a service if you will. Next she asks "how much you pay?". "$40 is say assertively. No she says, $60 here. She haggled a bit too much for my liking. So I stood up and dressed!

At this point she begs ME for a $40 hand job! I stick to my guns, I'm walking (and having fun)! Suzie leaves and comes back with Mamasan. "What wrong", Mamasan asks. I told her that I just was not in the mood to haggle over services, and besides, a HE is $40 all over town and less in some Spas.

Mamasan offers to finish my massage her self. I decline. She then offers to get Pink to finish. Mamasan was apologetic and asked me to come back and see Pink. I promise her that I will.

I really wasn't pissed, but it just felt right to say no and leave. I smiled at Mamasan, said a pleasant goodbye and promised to be back. I suspect my next session will be wonderful.

I should end this post by telling you to avoid Suzie, but I have the feeling that she will be an above average performer for the next guy.

Sr. D.

[QUOTE=Ri Designer]I would venture a guess that 100% of the house money goes to the house and probably 50-60% of the tip as well.[/QUOTE]


Bet this is where the upsell comes into play, if she has to fork over 50% or more. If the house is expecting a certain amount for each customer then the more she can get after the house fee could be hers to keep.

[QUOTE=Ri Designer]I would venture a guess that 100% of the house money goes to the house and probably 50-60% of the tip as well.[/QUOTE]
So what if Daddys lookin comes in (see his report below) and just get the massage with no tip. That means she makes 0 for the hour?

I decided to try this new place last Thursday afternoon. Entrance is located right on Admiral St. , I didn't see any side entrance. Place is pretty nice inside. I was the only one there at the time. I got Coco, there was one other girl I saw on the computer. She must of been Angela as in the previous reports. Coco looked probably late 30s, not as attractive as Angela.

Anyway, TS was bad, she was using some sort of scrubby on a stick. It was awful, I had to tell her to use just her hands when I flipped over. You can't beat the TS you get a Lilys. On to the the room and got a sub-par rub down with massage oil. After the flip, I ask her to remove her clothing and get the "how much you gonna give me? ". God, I hate that shit. I offered 50 and she says no, she wants 60. I say fuck it and agreed to the 60. She removes everything but the thong. After seeing her body, I realized I overpaid. During the HE, sucked her titties and played with the kitty. Wouldn't let the digit inside though. After the clean up, I dressed myself with no help from her. She was more concerned getting the table ready for the next customer. I didn't get a frequent customer card like Stressed Out, nor did I want one. I definitely will not repeat. It's back to Lilys for me.

[QUOTE=Rito1]So what if Daddys lookin comes in (see his report below) and just get the massage with no tip. That means she makes 0 for the hour? [/QUOTE]That, my friend, IS the incentive to not make a scene and to accept as offered. NO ONE on this board knows the split, if there is one and no one knows what percentages goes each way. Ck out the report below by Sr. D.

What would have been the better course of action for Susie (oh, by the way, she's back. Was there with Yung and I had a good time with her). Better to keep the customer and make a little less than to blow them out the door.

As a related aside though, Club 1021 is a FS establishment and looking for a lower level of experience might lead to a similar experience as it was not what the place is known for. IMHO.

Stick to your guns. $100 for FS is plentisimo.

Had some time to kill Friday so I figured I would try the ones who post daily on CL in the therapeutic section with numbers ending in 1934 and 1397. They were offering a $55 "special" for 1 hour.

No answer at 1934, left message, no call back. Got a hispanic woman at 1397 and after several calls got to her place in Warwick.

I got one look and got out of there. I don't want to be mean, but she wasn't worth 55 cents, never mind the 55 bucks. I don't know if she is the only one or if there are two of them (there are 2 phone numbers) but I won't bother with this one again.

[QUOTE=Gansett]Ok 60 goes to the house right off the bat. Anyone know what the split from the "tip" is between the house and the ma-souse?

I heard from one girl who worked for a escort service that the service took up to 75% of the fees charged.

Just wondering, that's all.[/QUOTE]

It would really be nice to know that fact as it would definitely drive my tipping mo. I do know that at Joline's places in Ma that she splits the house fee (of 80) with the girls and then they get to keep the tip. I would guess that in general the house fee does go to the house. As far as the tip I haven't got the clue. With the upselling going on lately it might be a case where the house gets the first XX and the girl the rest or they split the donation. There has to be an incentive for these girls to try and upsell as much as they are doing. Anyway just my .02 but would love to know more. Good discussion point! SO

[QUOTE=DaddysLookin]

As a related aside though, Club 1021 is a FS establishment and looking for a lower level of experience might lead to a similar experience as it was not what the place is known for. IMHO.[/QUOTE]I agree with you, but I was being rushed and if she had her way I would have been in and out in a half hour. When things aren't going well in the TS or massage, I think you need to cut your loses and go elsewhere. I still had my p4p cash in my pocket and went back to Lee for a GREAT one hour massage with an excellent HE.

I think if we are all a little bit more assertive, we will see some prices softening,

[QUOTE=Catnibbler]No need to get upset.

Maybe I misread but I thought I read FS for 90 plus house fee.

And I do think her butt is flat.[/QUOTE]Reread my reply and it did come across as angry; not my intention.

Pretty sure there isn't $90 FS at any of the reputable AMPs; a lot of talk about (us mongers) trying to barter to lower FS prices to $100.

Maybe economy will help; I don't think so, but YNK.

Clicking with an SP is not common (I've been lucky; twice).

My take is find one, maybe 2 (AMPs/girls) you like and become a regular (although some like constant change).

Not going to talk discount $ (as YMMV), but I've had better than great service for less money once I became a regular (usually 2 times/month).

Small, cheap money gifts to mamasan/girls/fav girl can go a long way too!

Now get out there and get yourself some; big girls need lovin' too and you're their guy! (I'm killin' myself here!!)

Be safe out there.

J