Arrangement Reports

[QUOTE=LeoRockstein;4145185]Which approach works best for you guys? I've played the nice guy, long haul. It can be a drag sometimes. I'm sure it costs me some success with girls who might lose interest after a while. Though it also has scored me free pussy off SA as well. The recent hook up was the only girl that was just not my type, not attractive to me. The others were def cute enough to fk for free. Some even end up wanting to date or just hang out. No $.

But I also get girls who are not interested at all after meeting up. Win some, loose some.

I've been wondering lately if I should mix it up and get more aggressive, more direct. Let's discuss. DM me if private preferred.[/QUOTE]I've been on SA for about 2 years now. When I first started I always played the normal nice guy approach, and sometimes still do. It works well with the "newest" members, but it seriously takes so much patience because a lot of times it leads nowhere because the girl simply is too scared to meet anyone. Money involved or not, they just don't have the courage. Other times it's paid off very nicely where I've met and had multiple hour dates with young hot college students for low allowance. Those times it's worth it but over the 2 years I've gotten impatient and jaded from all the flakes that my approach sometimes is too direct. I try to get a read on them from their profile if they truly want a direct approach and go from there. It's a fine line. Good luck.

[QUOTE=LeoRockstein;4145187]I had been chatting with this girl for a few days. Seems more like a pro. Flies out to LA regularly and gets some action out there as well. I offered 300 after reading this post and haven't heard back from her since. It totally killed the momentum cause talks were going very well. Perhaps she's asking more these days.[/QUOTE]I had to really negotiate to get down to 3. I forgot where it started, maybe 5. But it's possible she didn't have any solid options that day and figured 3 is better than none. It was an afternoon downtown also so it was close. I feel like a lot of times convenience and lack of options they may have on that particular day they're looking to do an "arrangement" plays a factor in if they accept a lot less.

Can you post a direct link? Can't find it using sa search.

[QUOTE=LeoRockstein;4145186]Met up with mannichippiedreamgirl, previously known as mannichippiechic. Decent looks, maybe a little cockeyed? Not sure. But still Def bone-worthy, tall girl. I can imagine she'd take a nice pounding. Asks $$.

Says she had only met a couple of guys at that point. It I'm sure she's gotten more action since. She was pretty strapped for cash.

Doesn't like to have sex right away, you'll probably only get head at first meet up. I was actually about to see another girl and wanted to save a strong load, so I made this a meet and chat only. She has since ghosted me after I didn't contact her for a couple of weeks.

Figured I'd last along the info.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=PauFord;4145680]Can you post a direct link? Can't find it using sa search.[/QUOTE]I can't find her. Figured she blocked me or may have turned her account off. She's also not replying to texts. She either met RonM, swept off her feet. Or some guy did her dirty and she's scared away. Or maybe her dad found her on SA.

Shame cause she was a really down to earth girl. Wish I slammed that ass while I had the chance.

[QUOTE=LeoRockstein;4145185]Which approach works best for you guys? I've played the nice guy, long haul. It can be a drag sometimes. I'm sure it costs me some success with girls who might lose interest after a while. Though it also has scored me free pussy off SA as well. The recent hook up was the only girl that was just not my type, not attractive to me. The others were def cute enough to fk for free. Some even end up wanting to date or just hang out. No $.

But I also get girls who are not interested at all after meeting up. Win some, loose some.

I've been wondering lately if I should mix it up and get more aggressive, more direct. Let's discuss. DM me if private preferred.[/QUOTE]Very curious to hear more takes on this. I feel like its changed a lot over the last couple of years. My first go-round on SA was also two years ago, and back then it seemed like an efficient 'nice guy' approach was gold. I went into it skeptical, but I found a pattern of a relaxed coffee date followed by some friendly but persistent texting very often led to getting down to business anywhere from a few hours to a few days after the M&G. And this was with cute, clean, girls in the 20-25 range. Most of them were willing to do the no-pressure coffee meet, and then after seeing the 'nice guy' most of those were willing to take a chance on more intimate time, and most of them really let loose once it got started. The disarming face-to-face meet also made negotiating a reasonable donation much, much easier.

Back on SA now after finally getting a little more schedule and financial freedom, and finding it hard to even get that old process started. That 20-25 range seems almost completely filled with 'need money now' hustlers on one end and 'platonic' jittery girls who waffle endlessly about whether or not to even meet for coffee on the other. Yes there are times where its not the worst thing in the world to find a girl ready to go for money with no preliminaries but it wasn't what SA was really originally about, and the BCD experiences have left me flat. The best experiences from my first round pretty accurately captured the old college hook-up feeling and it was quite a thrill. The only real bites have been on the MILF / semi-bbw part of the spectrum. Again not awful if they have a good attitude and are usually happy with any small donation, but still not what SA really was supposed to be about.

But, still holding out hope that maybe the time of year has been a part of it and hoping warmer weather will bring out a new wave SBs with a more fun attitude.

Found myself bogged down with meaningless conversations that went nowhere. Seriously it was just such a significant percentage of convos that were just a complete waste of time that I was ready to give up.

But I changed my profile from Mr. Nice guy, generic, etc to being very concise and direct. Not in the sense of saying I have X to spend or I want to fuck right away, etc. But more just that I want to meet soon, no endless messages, I'm serious about this and you should be too. And describe at high level exactly how I see things and what I'm looking for. This has worked very well. I get more girls contacting me than ever before. I get more replies than I used to. There's still a bunch of convos that go nowhere but that is now the minority's rather than the majority like it used to be.

I just don't have the energy to coax a waffling newbie. If she's hesitant or the messages are one word type shit I just move on.

I don't pussy foot around haggling either. Most girls that will accept $100-$200 type stuff are girls that I probably don't want in my bed anyway. I offer my number, which is reasonable but not high, and either they take it or they don't.

So being direct in all aspects has worked very well. I'm very tactful and respectful about how I word things but I'm not doing a tap dance in any phase of this process.

[QUOTE=LeoRockstein;4145185]Which approach works best for you guys? I've played the nice guy, long haul. It can be a drag sometimes. I'm sure it costs me some success with girls who might lose interest after a while. Though it also has scored me free pussy off SA as well. The recent hook up was the only girl that was just not my type, not attractive to me. The others were def cute enough to fk for free. Some even end up wanting to date or just hang out. No $.

But I also get girls who are not interested at all after meeting up. Win some, loose some.

I've been wondering lately if I should mix it up and get more aggressive, more direct. Let's discuss. DM me if private preferred.[/QUOTE]It really depends on how the conversation begins and progresses. For the most part I've been able to find 20-26 YO's willing to meet for an encounter the first time for a PPM. It usually doesn't take long to get to the payment request and a few have even happened the same evening with them coming to me.

Late 20's to mid 30's takes a little more finesse and a little longer playing the line to snag them. They tend to be a little more cautious and selective and payment doesn't even come up until well into the discussion.

MILF's and older usually just want a nice guy to f*ck. They know the ropes and are lacking intimacy and male sex in their lives. They tend to be looking for more long term and not just a one night encounter.

But, all that said, it really depends on the woman, your game and finding the right balance between nice guy, suggestive language and stating what you are in to. Honestly.

I had an arrangement with her, and made clear in advance that I wanted companionship for more than just an hour. She lives near Oswego, and I chose a high end suite at a nice hotel there. I explained my reasoning, that if I was going to spend the dough on the suite, I wanted our rendezvous to be on the longer side. She shows up with her teenage friend and tells me that she will just wait in the car. Again, before I get the room, I tell her I'm not getting it if she is going to bail after an hour. She agrees, and gives the spare key card to her friend so that she can go swimming or whatever.

The friend kept coming in and out of the room, it was a suite so the bed was blocked off from the front door, but still. After about an hour an a half, we parted ways. She told me she was sorry, and that most guys don't want extra time and that she didn't know.

The damage was 3 for the allowance, 1 1/2 for the room, plus 1/2 on some other stuff.

BB everything, light greek. All in all, a nice person and a good time, and I would repeat but not at that price for that length of service. As I get older it takes me longer between rounds, and I need the extra time to get the blood flowing again.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/4a922a33-c1e0-4485-bcdc-17632f52e3d8[/URL]

I got some very weird messages from a girl I had contacted. Got a bit accusatory. Respectfully engaged her at first, then blocked her. Now I can't send messages. Not sure if she reported me or something. I had a pretty good lead going as well!

I sent in an inquiry, this blows.

This one is just selling pictures, doesn't want to meet.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/8b6db529-10d1-4f98-92c3-f7bb7ff7fd7c[/URL]

Any intel on this one?

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/d1e31370-e91f-48d6-86fd-a0b07aec1a97[/URL]

[QUOTE=LeoRockstein;4146700]I got some very weird messages from a girl I had contacted. Got a bit accusatory. Respectfully engaged her at first, then blocked her. Now I can't send messages. Not sure if she reported me or something. I had a pretty good lead going as well!

I sent in an inquiry, this blows.[/QUOTE]Time to move on.

[QUOTE=BeNewAgain;4144250]We've all had issues with planning and seeing her. A previous report said they had an agreement, he was almost to her place then she flipped on the agreement saying she needed more. That shit doesn't fly in this world, at least not with most of us. In theory, she seems like a perfect situation where you can go see her for like 200-250 maybe. Have a couple hours of fucking at her house then leave, but she seems really flighty and slight GPS.[/QUOTE]Well, true to form apparently, I did not end up hooking up with her today. Luckily, when I texted her this morning to confirm, she texted back in the negative and said we needed to reschedule. My guess is she found someone to pay more haha! I think she is just too much of a pro for my tastes; plus she is 1. 5 hours away, so I'm taking a big pass on her for good.

The truth is I am having some kind of lucky streak going closer to home, at least in terms of contacts and setting up m&g's. Just back in the bowl for a few days, but so far the fishing has been stellar. Must be the post-Christmas bills piling up.

Cheers,

Scott.

[QUOTE=LeoRockstein;4145189]Her last guy gave her 600 per meet. Uh, no.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/99d47fbf-1c3f-4628-b4d2-32e2247284ed[/URL][/QUOTE]She told me the same and was willing to do 500. Would not reveal the private photos, but did send me one via email. Never pulled the trigger though. I feel most of the asian girls on SA ask high. Met one in the past for 500. Totally worth it though. This one. Idk.

[QUOTE=GoodVibesAll;4146166]I had an arrangement with her, and made clear in advance that I wanted companionship for more than just an hour. She lives near Oswego, and I chose a high end suite at a nice hotel there. I explained my reasoning, that if I was going to spend the dough on the suite, I wanted our rendezvous to be on the longer side. She shows up with her teenage friend and tells me that she will just wait in the car. Again, before I get the room, I tell her I'm not getting it if she is going to bail after an hour. She agrees, and gives the spare key card to her friend so that she can go swimming or whatever.

The friend kept coming in and out of the room, it was a suite so the bed was blocked off from the front door, but still. After about an hour an a half, we parted ways. She told me she was sorry, and that most guys don't want extra time and that she didn't know.

The damage was 3 for the allowance, 1 1/2 for the room, plus 1/2 on some other stuff.

BB everything, light greek. All in all, a nice person and a good time, and I would repeat but not at that price for that length of service. As I get older it takes me longer between rounds, and I need the extra time to get the blood flowing again.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/4a922a33-c1e0-4485-bcdc-17632f52e3d8[/URL][/QUOTE]Nice, should have asked if the friend wanted to join.

[QUOTE=GoodVibesAll;4146166]I had an arrangement with her, and made clear in advance that I wanted companionship for more than just an hour. She lives near Oswego, and I chose a high end suite at a nice hotel there. I explained my reasoning, that if I was going to spend the dough on the suite, I wanted our rendezvous to be on the longer side. She shows up with her teenage friend and tells me that she will just wait in the car. Again, before I get the room, I tell her I'm not getting it if she is going to bail after an hour. She agrees, and gives the spare key card to her friend so that she can go swimming or whatever.

The friend kept coming in and out of the room, it was a suite so the bed was blocked off from the front door, but still. After about an hour an a half, we parted ways. She told me she was sorry, and that most guys don't want extra time and that she didn't know.

The damage was 3 for the allowance, 1 1/2 for the room, plus 1/2 on some other stuff.

BB everything, light greek. All in all, a nice person and a good time, and I would repeat but not at that price for that length of service. As I get older it takes me longer between rounds, and I need the extra time to get the blood flowing again.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/4a922a33-c1e0-4485-bcdc-17632f52e3d8[/URL][/QUOTE]Interesting review. Did you by chance even verify the girls age? She seems quite young.